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Re: Screenreader Accessible Data Recovery Software

Steve Nutt
 

Not on an external drive it wouldn't, not by default anyway.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of soner
Sent: 29 January 2018 19:40
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Screenreader Accessible Data Recovery Software

What is the earliest system restore point? did you check? that may rescue if any assigned prior to your deletion.

On 1/28/18, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@comcast.net> wrote:
Sadly I pressed Shift+Delete on the wrong folder, namely the backups
folders of the documents, those were on my external hard drive, and
those are the ones I'm trying to recover. Those folders are named
"Poems", "Program Files", and "Pronunciation Guide".

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Screenreader Accessible Data Recovery Software

How about your backup?

On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 17:15:02 -0500,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hi, it's Annabelle.
I am in a bit of a pickle when it comes to choosing the best
screenreader accessible software for data recovery. I seem to be
going crazy trying to find a Data Recovery Software that is not only
screenreader accessible, but is able to recover all the files without
any
corruption, and is able to retain the original file names. Sadly, it's
hard for me to find something like that without resorting to spending a fortune!
The main reason I want to try and use data recovery software is
because I've recently deleted some important documents, quite by
accident, and I've been stressed out ever since this happened about a
week ago, as I don't know if they're gone forever after pressing
"shift+Delete". Do I need sighted help to access those kind of
programs? I don't want to do this the wrong way and end up losing my
mind over lost documents! Any of you JAWS members out there have any
pointers?
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com








Re: How do you unprotect?

 

I absolutely despise protected view in MS-Office since I never open Office files from untrusted sources.   If you wish to turn off protected view entirely, the following step-by-step instructions worked at least through Office 2013, and I believe Office 2016.  I don't have Office 365 available to experiment with.

Adjusting Protected View Settings in MS-Office Programs

1.        ALT+F to open the file tab/menu

2.       Hit ‘T’ to open the Options Dialog.

3.       Arrow Down until you hit Trust Center

4.      Either:

a.       Hit TAB until you come to the Trust Center Settings button then activate it.

b.      Hit ALT+T which will activate the Trust Center Settings Button.

5.       In the Trust Center Settings dialog, use up or down arrow to get to Protected View.  I say up or down because you will land on whatever setting the last person who used the Trust Center Settings was on, so Protected View could be above or below where you are.  You’ll have to listen until you hit it or reach the end and need to reverse direction.

6.      Once on Protected View, hit TAB to throw focus on to the checkboxes related to protected mode.  You should exercise additional caution in what you are willing to open as far as what comes to you via e-mail attachments or download from the internet, but if your sources are trusted (you know that they run antivirus programs or are major players with tight security) you will generally be fine.  You will want to uncheck the one or more of the following checkboxes, which you should encounter in this order:

a.       Enable Protected View for files originating from the Internet

b.      Enable Protected View for files located in potentially unsafe locations

c.       Enable Protected View for Outlook Attachments.

7.       There will be one additional checkbox, Enable data execution protection mode, which should be left checked.

--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1709, Build 16299  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

 
If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker


Re: windows update kb4600056892 gets stuck and not installing help

Steve Matzura
 

I saw this at https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4056892/windows-10-update-kb4056892:


Microsoft has reports of some customers on a small subset of older AMD processors getting into an unbootable state after installing this KB.
 
To prevent this issue, Microsoft will temporarily pause Windows OS updates to devices with impacted AMD processors at this time.

Maybe yours is one of those?

On 2/6/2018 12:47 AM, Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi, this update never gets installed and keeps saying getting windows ready, did contact disability help desk or answer desk, but not sure they fixed it, so is there a fix for this, and now also got a  windows defender definition cannot be updated. Any ideas, or any help.

Thanks.critical

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: mistake

Val Paul
 

Wait till i see her later! She's just a windup merchant!


Thanks a lot for checking.


Val.

On 06/02/2018 12:31, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

You are still getting messages through to the list, so you don't need to worry about that right now.  If you sto getting messages, then, you might need to check into it.

Carol


On 2/6/2018 7:25 AM, Val Paul wrote:
Hi!

Think my friend has unsibscribed me by mistake, but not sure it could be a wind up!

She said she was going to, but I hope it's one of her pranks!


Val Paul.






Re: mistake

Carol Smith
 

Hi,

You are still getting messages through to the list, so you don't need to worry about that right now. If you sto getting messages, then, you might need to check into it.

Carol

On 2/6/2018 7:25 AM, Val Paul wrote:
Hi!

Think my friend has unsibscribed me by mistake, but not sure it could be a wind up!

She said she was going to, but I hope it's one of her pranks!


Val Paul.




mistake

Val Paul
 

Hi!

Think my friend has unsibscribed me by mistake, but not sure it could be a wind up!

She said she was going to, but I hope it's one of her pranks!


Val Paul.


windows update kb4600056892 gets stuck and not installing help

Marvin Hunkin <neilmarvin@...>
 

Hi, this update never gets installed and keeps saying getting windows ready, did contact disability help desk or answer desk, but not sure they fixed it, so is there a fix for this, and now also got a  windows defender definition cannot be updated. Any ideas, or any help.

Thanks.critical

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Activating links in Chrome that require the mouse over command in IE

Alan Robbins
 

I’m using Windows 10, version 1709 and latest version of JAWS 2018.

My bank site has certain things I need to use the keystroke

Control+JAWSKey+Enter  and then J to go to a line to activate the link.

This JAWS keystroke Performs the control enter keystroke, which acts as OnMouseOver, to provide more options for a given web page element.

I see no way to do this or any substitute action in Chrome to activate these links. Anyone run into this and how are you handling it?

 

Thanks

Al


Re: How do you unprotect?

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Yes, it works in Word. If you wish to do it on a permanent basis you can eradicate Protected View in the Trust Center. However, the Trust Center is no longer coming up in the context menu for me; perhaps someone else can chime in with its new location. I am using Windows 10, Office 365, and Jaws 2018.
Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara
Sent: February 4, 2018 5:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you unprotect?

Hello,

Interesting question. For both Jeff and Kevin which version of office does these steps work? I have run into the same issue with a MS Word document. Does these steps also work for MS Word? I personally did not know what to do and ended up opening the protected Word document inside Open Book. That worked and I could then read it. I doubt that would work for an Excel documents since you are dealing with all those columns and rows.

Thanks for answers to the above questions.

Barbara


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you unprotect?

Alt F, I, E.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: February 4, 2018 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do you unprotect?

Someone sent me an Excel document that I am supposed to print for them. But it is protected. Is there a JAWS command that will unprotect it?

Thanks to anyone who can help.
Shirley Tracy


Re: Getting to the GMail inbox in Outlook

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Works here.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: February 4, 2018 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to the GMail inbox in Outlook

Could you use control tab instead of control Y to move to the tree view,
then move up and down the folder tree?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to the GMail inbox in Outlook

Hi,

this is helpful. However, getting to the inbox isn't the problem. When I
press control+y I can get to inbox, junk mail, and perhaps one other folder,
but not sent items, outbox, deleted items. Sometimes I can tinker and get
there, but I'm not sure how it happens. I need to open up the GMail
account, but neither enter nor right arrow seems to do it.
At 11:43 AM 2/4/2018, you wrote:
Ann,

I myself have four e-mail accounts configured in Outlook, and
navigating between them is not difficult. I recommend the following steps:
1. From within any mail folder, press Ctrl y to open the folder tree view.
2. Use first-letter navigation to navigate to the Gmail account in the
tree view.
3. Press right arrow to open the list of folders for the Gmail account.
4. Down arrow or press i for inbox. In all the years I've used Outlook,
I had to down arrow only once for the inbox, but your student's setup
might be different.
5. Press Enter, and you will be taken to the message list.

Let me know if this was helpful.

Best,

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 9:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Getting to the GMail inbox in Outlook

My student is using Outlook 2010 to read her mail from GMail. There is
a GMail entry, level 0; above it, though is another whole menu of
Outlook mailboxes. Can I get rid of this somehow--to do list, RSS,
etc., at least hide it? How does she get to the mailboxes in the GMail
account? She wants to find sent mail, but it is only available in the
other Outlook mailbox collection, not under GMail. Rescue would be
awesome!

thanks,

Ann







Re: Guides for windows

David Bailes
 

Hi Val and Bill,
just to note that you can save the guides. However, the advantage of using the ones on the internet is that from time to time I make corrections or additions to the online versions, and so you'll be automatically using the updated versions.

Each guide does contain many links, but most of them are links to different parts of the same guide. If you want to download a guide, then one way to do it is by using a link to that guide. You can just open the link's context menu, and choose something like save target as. The exact wording varies between browsers.

As to cost, the guides are free,
David.


On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 10:17 am, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Val and list. Here is the link to all the JAWS guides. They are not pdf files. You read them on the Internet with your Internet browser. They cannot be saved, because there are hyperlinks within the guides which lead to other tutorials and resources. I am posting the link to the homepage where all the JAWS Guides are found.

http://vip.chowo.co.uk/jaws-guides/


Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Guides for windows

Hi!

Someone was advertising guides for windows, [Think his name was David]

where can you get them? Do they come in pdf files and what is the cost?


Val from uk.


Re: How do you unprotect?

Mario
 

yes, alt, f, i, e, works for Word
as well.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Barbara [mailto:batterseye@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, Feb 4, 2018 8:43 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do you unprotect?

Hello,

Interesting question. For both Jeff and Kevin which version of office
does these steps work? I have run into the same issue with a MS Word
document. Does these steps also work for MS Word? I personally did not
know what to do and ended up opening the protected Word document inside
Open Book. That worked and I could then read it. I doubt that would
work for an Excel documents since you are dealing with all those columns
and rows.

Thanks for answers to the above questions.

Barbara


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you unprotect?

Alt F, I, E.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shirley Tracy
Sent: February 4, 2018 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do you unprotect?

Someone sent me an Excel document that I am supposed to print for them.
But it is protected. Is there a JAWS command that will unprotect it?

Thanks to anyone who can help.
Shirley Tracy










.


Re: How do you unprotect?

Shirley Tracy
 

Thanks to all of you for your suggestions. I only unprotected the one document I needed to print, and it worked fine. I truly appreciate this list.

Cheerfully,
Shirley Tracy

---- Marianne Denning <marianne@denningweb.com> wrote:

=============
I think using the f6 and tabbing to "enable" and hitting enter whas worked
at least since Office 2007. It only unprotects the document you are
currently using but that I the way I prefer to do it. I don't want to turn
off "protected view" for everything.

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Barbara <batterseye@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Hello,

Interesting question. For both Jeff and Kevin which version of office
does these steps work? I have run into the same issue with a MS Word
document. Does these steps also work for MS Word? I personally did not
know what to do and ended up opening the protected Word document inside
Open Book. That worked and I could then read it. I doubt that would work
for an Excel documents since you are dealing with all those columns and
rows.

Thanks for answers to the above questions.

Barbara


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you unprotect?

Alt F, I, E.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley
Tracy
Sent: February 4, 2018 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do you unprotect?

Someone sent me an Excel document that I am supposed to print for them.
But it is protected. Is there a JAWS command that will unprotect it?

Thanks to anyone who can help.
Shirley Tracy










--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: dvd-cd drive

Christopher Zeigler
 

hello this is Chris
Try this link and select I have a disc but I need to download Office here's the link to the page that the link is on the page.
https://products.office.com/en-us/download-back-up-restore-microsoft-office-products
I hope this helps


On Feb 4, 2018 5:49 PM, "Maria Campbell" <lucky1inct@...> wrote:
You must look specifically for a cd/dvd drive anymore.  They are still to be found, as I will be getting one on my new Linovo laptop.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 2/4/2018 5:46 PM, Don H wrote:
More and more computers are not coming with DVD drives.  You have to purchase a separate drive and copy the disk to a thumb drive.

On 2/4/2018 4:17 PM, Val Paul wrote:
Hi!

I have just found an office and outlook cd program and was going to go to outlook and office, but cannot find a dvd-cd opening on this my hp new computer.

I thought all computers had dvd and cd drives?

Now i can't use the disc i've got for out look and office.


Val.















Re: Getting to the GMail inbox in Outlook

Don Walls
 

Could you use control tab instead of control Y to move to the tree view, then move up and down the folder tree?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to the GMail inbox in Outlook

Hi,

this is helpful. However, getting to the inbox isn't the
problem. When I press control+y I can get to inbox, junk mail, and
perhaps one other folder, but not sent items, outbox, deleted
items. Sometimes I can tinker and get there, but I'm not sure how it
happens. I need to open up the GMail account, but neither enter nor
right arrow seems to do it.
At 11:43 AM 2/4/2018, you wrote:
Ann,

I myself have four e-mail accounts configured in Outlook, and navigating
between them is not difficult. I recommend the following steps:
1. From within any mail folder, press Ctrl y to open the folder tree view.
2. Use first-letter navigation to navigate to the Gmail account in the tree
view.
3. Press right arrow to open the list of folders for the Gmail account.
4. Down arrow or press i for inbox. In all the years I've used Outlook, I
had to down arrow only once for the inbox, but your student's setup might be
different.
5. Press Enter, and you will be taken to the message list.

Let me know if this was helpful.

Best,

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 9:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Getting to the GMail inbox in Outlook

My student is using Outlook 2010 to read her mail from GMail. There is a
GMail entry, level 0; above it, though is another whole menu of Outlook
mailboxes. Can I get rid of this somehow--to do list, RSS, etc., at least
hide it? How does she get to the mailboxes in the GMail account? She wants
to find sent mail, but it is only available in the other Outlook mailbox
collection, not under GMail. Rescue would be awesome!

thanks,

Ann







Re: dvd-cd drive

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

All new computers that are laptops don't have CD drives now. you need to buy a portable one that plugs into a USB port.


Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: dvd-cd drive

Hi!

I have just found an office and outlook cd program and was going to go
to outlook and office, but cannot find a dvd-cd opening on this my hp
new computer.

I thought all computers had dvd and cd drives?

Now i can't use the disc i've got for out look and office.


Val.


Re: CD-DVD drive

 

CD/DVD drives are usually not included on many laptops because a lot of the smaller ones are too small to fit one and of course even desktops often don't have them any more because hardly anything comes on DVD any more. Yes, you can still buy Office for hundreds of Dollars, but most people nowadays choose to pay $69 or
$99 or whatever the various Office subscriptions cost and that way you are always entitled to the latest Office update and on top o fit you get 1 TB of OneDrive storage. If you buy 1 TB of Dropbox storage you pay at least the same or maybe more for just the storage.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 5:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: CD-DVD drive

Hi everyone!

Just would like to thank everyone who were kind enough to reply to my question.

I will purchase an external drive today.

How things have changed, or i'm getting old!


Val.


Re: How do you unprotect?

Marianne Denning
 

I think using the f6 and tabbing to "enable" and hitting enter whas worked at least since Office 2007. It only unprotects the document you are currently using but that I the way I prefer to do it. I don't want to turn off "protected view" for everything.

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Barbara <batterseye@...> wrote:
Hello,

Interesting question.  For both Jeff and Kevin which version of office does these steps work?  I have run into the same issue with a MS Word document.  Does these steps also work for MS Word?  I personally did not know what to do and ended up opening the protected Word document inside Open Book.  That worked and I could then read it.  I doubt that would work for an Excel documents since you are dealing with all those columns and rows.

Thanks for answers to the above questions.

Barbara


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you unprotect?

Alt F, I, E.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: February 4, 2018 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do you unprotect?

Someone sent me an Excel document that I am supposed to print for them. But it is protected. Is there a JAWS command that will unprotect it?

Thanks to anyone who can help.
Shirley Tracy













--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: How do you unprotect?

Barbara <batterseye@...>
 

Hello,

Interesting question. For both Jeff and Kevin which version of office does these steps work? I have run into the same issue with a MS Word document. Does these steps also work for MS Word? I personally did not know what to do and ended up opening the protected Word document inside Open Book. That worked and I could then read it. I doubt that would work for an Excel documents since you are dealing with all those columns and rows.

Thanks for answers to the above questions.

Barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you unprotect?

Alt F, I, E.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: February 4, 2018 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do you unprotect?

Someone sent me an Excel document that I am supposed to print for them. But it is protected. Is there a JAWS command that will unprotect it?

Thanks to anyone who can help.
Shirley Tracy


CD-DVD drive

Val Paul
 

Hi everyone!

Just would like to thank everyone who were kind enough to reply to my question.

I will purchase an external drive today.

How things have changed, or i'm getting old!


Val.