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Re: jaws and windows 10
GV-Knope, John (Greenville)
Good question. Depending on the computer model, it is possible to toggle the function and pre program key configurations.
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If your suspicion is correct, somewhere on the keyboard is a fN key. Try this combination: fN+insert+F4 to shut down JAWS. John F Knope Student, CIS – Cloud Computing ECPI University Home 508 Mapleton Drive Greenville, SC 29607 Phone: 864.438.1947 Email: johkno3041@...
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 4:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws and windows 10 I'm wondering if the JAWS function keys are not turned on, but are rather used as computer function keys instead, such as volume, mute, wireless toggle, etc. Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!" --St. Francis On 1/23/2018 1:47 PM, Val Paul wrote: Hi!
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Re: jaws and windows 10
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Val. First, is your new computer a Dell Computer? If so, try the following.
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Your new computer should have a FN key next to the CONTROL key on the left. It should be directly to the right of the CONTROL key. Try pressing this FN key down, then pressing the ESCAPE key down while the FN key is held down. This should fix your F keys. Bill White Billwhite92701@...
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 10:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: jaws and windows 10 Hi! As a new member, and with the a new computer with the latest version of jaws plus windows 10, I would be glad of some help pleas. I recently p As urchased a new laptop, and, ofcourse, it had the latest version of jaws and windows 10. When I had my old computer and the last version of jaws, plus windows 7, I used to be able to press the insert key and the F6 key to add an address to the address bar. Also, I used to use the insert key and the F4 to shut down Jaws. Since getting this new laptop with windows 10 and the latest version of Jaws, I cannot do this! When I try the insert key and the F6 it completely cuts of the speach, and i've got to repress the F6 to put the speach back on again. When I try to exit jaws in the way i used to, i get a completely different message. Can someone tell me what you do now for both these questions. As yet, i'm not getting on very well with the new version of windows. ( Val
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Re: jaws and windows 10
Maria Campbell
I'm wondering if the JAWS function keys are not turned on, but are rather used as computer function keys instead, such as volume, mute, wireless toggle, etc.
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Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!" --St. Francis
On 1/23/2018 1:47 PM, Val Paul wrote:
Hi!
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Re: jaws and windows 10
GV-Knope, John (Greenville)
Hi Val,
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Based on what you have described, you want to use the F6 key to navigate in parts of an application and F4 to close JAWS. Is this correct? I need more information to clarify your question. If you want to use F6 to move around the parts of the desktop; hold down the WINDOWS key and D to focus the desktop. You can press either TAB or F6 to focus the parts of the desktop. Most web browsers and many Microsoft applications also let you focus different parts of the workspace using F6. If you want to close JAWS using F4, hold the insert key and F4. I hope this helps, John John F Knope Student, CIS – Cloud Computing ECPI University Home 508 Mapleton Drive Greenville, SC 29607 Phone: 864.438.1947 Email: johkno3041@...
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 1:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: jaws and windows 10 Hi! As a new member, and with the a new computer with the latest version of jaws plus windows 10, I would be glad of some help pleas. I recently p As urchased a new laptop, and, ofcourse, it had the latest version of jaws and windows 10. When I had my old computer and the last version of jaws, plus windows 7, I used to be able to press the insert key and the F6 key to add an address to the address bar. Also, I used to use the insert key and the F4 to shut down Jaws. Since getting this new laptop with windows 10 and the latest version of Jaws, I cannot do this! When I try the insert key and the F6 it completely cuts of the speach, and i've got to repress the F6 to put the speach back on again. When I try to exit jaws in the way i used to, i get a completely different message. Can someone tell me what you do now for both these questions. As yet, i'm not getting on very well with the new version of windows. ( Val
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jaws and windows 10
Val Paul
Hi!
As a new member, and with the a new computer with the latest version of jaws plus windows 10, I would be glad of some help pleas. I recently p As urchased a new laptop, and, ofcourse, it had the latest version of jaws and windows 10. When I had my old computer and the last version of jaws, plus windows 7, I used to be able to press the insert key and the F6 key to add an address to the address bar. Also, I used to use the insert key and the F4 to shut down Jaws. Since getting this new laptop with windows 10 and the latest version of Jaws, I cannot do this! When I try the insert key and the F6 it completely cuts of the speach, and i've got to repress the F6 to put the speach back on again. When I try to exit jaws in the way i used to, i get a completely different message. Can someone tell me what you do now for both these questions. As yet, i'm not getting on very well with the new version of windows. ( Val
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Re: Jaws and dropbox
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Hi,
They have definitely changed this and made it somewhat more challenging. If you press spacebar or enter on the “Accounts menu” near the top I was then able to use Control+Shift+F to search for Settings and activate this. I ended up with I think a screen with 4 or 5 unlabelled tabs. The first one which is selected by default is your basic info, the second seems to be about plans and I simply tried the third one which is Security. Here you will find a link or button (can’t remember) to change your password. I was using Jaws 2018 with Chrome on a Windows 10 laptop.
Regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 5:03 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws and dropbox
Good morning:
I am unable to change my password in Dropbox
Non of the tabs in the settings section will show up.
Is there another to change the password in dropbox with Jaws?
Thank you
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Re: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
John Gurd
Exactly so, Steve. There are times when I want to control my PC with the Braille display but only use speech when listening to fiction or long articles on the web. This would be particularly useful on the ElBraille where there is no querty option. Jason suggests just ignore the Braille output which continues to regularly refresh unread. Besides being slightly distracting, the cost of replacing worn-out refreshable Braille cells is very high. I suspect they would last a lot longer if we could suppress this part of the display when it’s not actually being used.
John
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: 23 January 2018 14:48 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
I think you all have it backwards. The layer command turns off speech, which is not what is wanted. Using a braille-style keyboard on a QWERTY device is also not what's wanted. What *is* wanted is just the reverse. Keep the speech, suppress the braille output, input from the braille device (or obviously the QWERTY keyboard).
On 1/22/2018 12:58 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
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Re: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
mike mcglashon
Actually, I do not have it backwards, I truly do wish to know how to do braille input on a qwerty style keyboard; Simply for input purposes;
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 9:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
I think you all have it backwards. The layer command turns off speech, which is not what is wanted. Using a braille-style keyboard on a QWERTY device is also not what's wanted. What *is* wanted is just the reverse. Keep the speech, suppress the braille output, input from the braille device (or obviously the QWERTY keyboard).
On 1/22/2018 12:58 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
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Re: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
Steve Matzura
I think you all have it backwards. The layer command turns off
speech, which is not what is wanted. Using a braille-style
keyboard on a QWERTY device is also not what's wanted. What *is*
wanted is just the reverse. Keep the speech, suppress the braille
output, input from the braille device (or obviously the QWERTY
keyboard).
On 1/22/2018 12:58 PM, mike mcglashon
wrote:
isn’t there also a braille keyboard input command on John’s so that one can actually use the Home roll like a braille keyboard as input or no?
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Jaws and dropbox
Nino Dagostino
Good morning:
I am unable to change my password in Dropbox
Non of the tabs in the settings section will show up.
Is there another to change the password in dropbox with Jaws?
Thank you
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Re: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
Jason White
So far as I am aware, you can’t disable the braille output while still using the braille input on a display. However, I can’t think of good reasons to turn off braille output. If you don’t want to read it, then you don’t have to.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Gurd via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 1:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
Nope, you’ve got it the wrong way around. I want to disable the Braille output, not the speech. But I still want to use the Braille input of the Focus 14 keyboard. It might sound a little strange to some, but with an ElBraille it makes sense for some situations! Is it possible?
John
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of GV-Knope, John (Greenville)
Use the layer-command insert-space followed by s to disable speech.
John F Knope Student, CIS – Cloud Computing ECPI University Home 508 Mapleton Drive Greenville, SC 29607 Phone: 864.438.1947 Email: johkno3041@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Gurd via Groups.Io
I’m using an El Braille and there are times when I would like to use my Focus 14 to control the device but just have speech output with the braille display remaining blank. It would be particularly good when using Kurzweil but also other occasions when I want to read quickly and not edit. Is this possible?
John
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Re: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
mike mcglashon
i’m sorry I didn’t mean to pose the question that way, I’m asking about the opposite because I was curious. Not because I was trying to identify with you using the braille keyboard on the braille display. I really do wish to know if there is a braille input keyboard command regardless of a braille display of whether I can type simulate a braille input and then have it come out on the computer. I hope I didn’t confuse you guys.
On Jan 22, 2018, at 1:36 PM, John Gurd via Groups.Io <j.gurd@...> wrote:
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Re: Making a note in excel
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Another even easier way to add a comment since Shift+F2 for me at least is easier than Alt+r then C. Interestingly enough I just tested this at work where I still use Windows 7, Jaws and Office are the same as on my Windows 10 laptop, and here Jaws reads the comment I type just fine, I can up arrow and it reads the line with my name and if I press enter it actually exits the comments screen and puts me back on the cell where I was, e.g. if I put something in A1, then add a comment and press enter I’m back on A1. I will definitely have to submit something to FS about Jaws not reading the comments under Windows 10.
Regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:01 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Making a note in excel
Also, Shift+F2 will allow adding a comment, as well as editing. And of course application key (shift+f10) will open a context menu to add/delete comments.
Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Hourigan Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 09:38 Subject: Re: Making a note in excel
Greetings, When Jaws moves to a cell with a comment it announces the fact, and alt, shift apostrophe will read said comment. Please find some other keystrokes regarding comments below. CommentsAdd a comment alt, R, C, enter text, press escape Delete a comment Alt R D Edit a comment Alt R T Or shift F 2 List comments Control shift apostrophe Read a comment alt shift apostrophe
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Fair enough, but if there is no way for Jaws to speak this information automatically when you move to a cell with a comment, there should definitely be a keystroke to make Jaws speak it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
the below is correct, and also if the mouse is hovered over that little red indication a tooltip pops up displaying the contents of the note to a sighted user.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
To the sighted I think it just shows a little red triangle to click on to read it, and has no affect on the workings of the spread sheet.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Does the comment then exist along wigth the numeric datum or formula? Does it have any effect on the processing of the datum? Howard
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Re: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
John Gurd
Nope, you’ve got it the wrong way around. I want to disable the Braille output, not the speech. But I still want to use the Braille input of the Focus 14 keyboard. It might sound a little strange to some, but with an ElBraille it makes sense for some situations! Is it possible?
John
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of GV-Knope, John (Greenville)
Sent: 22 January 2018 17:27 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
Use the layer-command insert-space followed by s to disable speech.
John F Knope Student, CIS – Cloud Computing ECPI University Home 508 Mapleton Drive Greenville, SC 29607 Phone: 864.438.1947 Email: johkno3041@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Gurd via Groups.Io
I’m using an El Braille and there are times when I would like to use my Focus 14 to control the device but just have speech output with the braille display remaining blank. It would be particularly good when using Kurzweil but also other occasions when I want to read quickly and not edit. Is this possible?
John
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Re: Making a note in excel
Dave...
Also, Shift+F2 will allow adding a comment, as well as
editing. And of course application key (shift+f10) will open a context menu to
add/delete comments.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin
Hourigan
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 09:38
Subject: Re: Making a note in excel Greetings, When Jaws moves to a cell with a comment it announces the fact, and alt, shift apostrophe will read said comment. Please find some other keystrokes regarding comments below. CommentsAdd a comment alt, R, C, enter text, press escape Delete a comment Alt R D Edit a comment Alt R T Or shift F 2 List comments Control shift apostrophe Read a comment alt shift apostrophe
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Fair enough, but if there is no way for Jaws to speak this information automatically when you move to a cell with a comment, there should definitely be a keystroke to make Jaws speak it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard B. McDonald
the below is correct, and also if the mouse is hovered over that little red indication a tooltip pops up displaying the contents of the note to a sighted user.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Hourigan
To the sighted I think it just shows a little red triangle to click on to read it, and has no affect on the workings of the spread sheet.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Howard Traxler
Does the comment then exist along wigth the numeric datum or formula? Does it have any effect on the processing of the datum? Howard
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Re: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
mike mcglashon
isn’t there also a braille keyboard input command on John’s so that one can actually use the Home roll like a braille keyboard as input or no?
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On Jan 22, 2018, at 12:27 PM, GV-Knope, John (Greenville) <johkno3041@...> wrote:
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Re: Making a note in excel
Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
Greetings, When Jaws moves to a cell with a comment it announces the fact, and alt, shift apostrophe will read said comment. Please find some other keystrokes regarding comments below. CommentsAdd a comment alt, R, C, enter text, press escape Delete a comment Alt R D Edit a comment Alt R T Or shift F 2 List comments Control shift apostrophe Read a comment alt shift apostrophe
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: January 22, 2018 7:58 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Making a note in excel
Fair enough, but if there is no way for Jaws to speak this information automatically when you move to a cell with a comment, there should definitely be a keystroke to make Jaws speak it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
the below is correct, and also if the mouse is hovered over that little red indication a tooltip pops up displaying the contents of the note to a sighted user.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
To the sighted I think it just shows a little red triangle to click on to read it, and has no affect on the workings of the spread sheet.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Does the comment then exist along wigth the numeric datum or formula? Does it have any effect on the processing of the datum? Howard
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Re: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
GV-Knope, John (Greenville)
Use the layer-command insert-space followed by s to disable speech.
John F Knope Student, CIS – Cloud Computing ECPI University Home 508 Mapleton Drive Greenville, SC 29607 Phone: 864.438.1947 Email: johkno3041@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of John Gurd via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:24 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Is it possible to have braille input but no output except Jaws Speech?
I’m using an El Braille and there are times when I would like to use my Focus 14 to control the device but just have speech output with the braille display remaining blank. It would be particularly good when using Kurzweil but also other occasions when I want to read quickly and not edit. Is this possible?
John
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Re: Making a note in excel
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Hi Steve,
Perfect, that works, would be nice if Jaws actually read what’s in there, still something for FS to look at and hopefully fix.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Steve Griffiths
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 8:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Making a note in excel
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Re: Making a note in excel
Steve Griffiths
Or you can just delete the name from the comment - when you select to Insert a comment, you're at the start of the line where the comment will go and your name is on the line above; press Backspace to delete it letter by letter. Thanks, Steve 🐾
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave... Sent: 22 January 2018 16:43 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Making a note in excel Sieghard, Here's a suggestion for eliminating the speaking of your name along with comments... In Excel you designate your name or initials to be used in such comments or giving creation credit. I think it's in the Options/General. Instead of your name or initials, use some other variant of your name that you recognize, but don't use anywhere else. Then try putting that variant into the dictionary manager for Excel and other Office applications to speak nothing. Let me know if that works. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 08:27 Subject: Re: Making a note in excel Hi Mario, Thanks, that does work, however, it reads my name each time before it reads the comment. I guess that is because I am the author of the comment. I'll have to get in touch with Jaws and ask them to fix this or to add a setting where this can be turned on or off. I can see how in a company where multiple people edit an Excel sheet this is useful, but I just want to hear the comment and I'm sure for most private users or those like me who have a small business would prefer just to hear the comment and nothing else. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 1:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Making a note in excel I see an alt+shift+Apostrophe to make JAWS read a cell comment, but no keystroke to have JAWS do what you suggest. when you hear that a cell has a comment, alt+shift+apostrophe should read the comment. -------- Original Message -------- From: Richard B. McDonald [mailto:richardbmcdonald@...] Sent: Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 3:48 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Making a note in excel No, that is not an *Excel* option. There is, I think, a *JAWS* option to have a cell's note (if any) read along with its value and coordinates. *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Dave.. *Sent:* Saturday, January 20, 2018 5:23 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: Making a note in excel I'm thinking that comments can be made to speak, but perhaps they need to be enabled in the Excel options? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- *From:*Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@...> *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:*Saturday, January 20, 2018 13:21 *Subject:*Re: Making a note in excel Hi Dave and Richard, This is useful although if I go to Insert Comment and type something pressing enter doesn't do anything and neither does tab, I have to press escape first before I can navigate to a different cell, then if I go back it will say the cell content along with "includes comment. The Control+Shift+Apostrophy also works great, but it would be really nice if Jaws could be made to speak the comment after the cell content, e.g. it would say "2" or whatever value is in the cell and then "Comment: Number of items in stock" or something along those lines. This would allow you to still perform calculations including the value of that cell but to have some more useful information, e.g. I could have the names of products in column A and across the top I could have sizes and maybe for this particular order some sizes are "In Stock" and some are "Backordered". I have received Excel sheets where the person who made that sheet colour coded this and then provided a legend as to what colour means what, but it would be nice to be able to add a comment which Jaws then reads automatically instead of having to check the colour of the cell content. I wouldn't be surprised if this is possible, if anybody knows maybe they can share it. If indeed it is not possible then I think FS should add this functionality. ** *Regards,* *Sieghard* ** *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner *Sent:* Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:05 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Making a note in excel Hi Brian, Dave's write, if you use the application key you can arrow to insert comment and hit enter. Type your comment and hit enter. Then, I believe you can tab to the next cell or arrow down, etc. To bring up a list of cells with comments, its control+shift+apostrophe. I do not know if there is a setting to have Jaws automatically read the comments. HTH, Richard *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *brian albriton *Sent:* Saturday, January 20, 2018 9:36 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Making a note in excel Excel not only has data but occasionally one needs to make a note about the data. How would I do this in excel? Brian Albriton iPhone 2136103315 cocanut50@... <mailto:cocanut50@...> This email and any attachment to it are confidential. Unless you are the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose either the message or any information contained in the message. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this email and notify the sender immediately. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the sender only, unless otherwise stated. All emails, incoming and outgoing, may be recorded by Guide Dogs and monitored for legitimate business purposes. 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