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Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

Ray T. Mahorney
 

already did that several times with 0 success.
 

Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 19:20
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines
 

I would suggest removing Chrome and re-installing it.

 

I’m running Chrome here with JAWS 2018 and it’s working as well as it always has.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 5:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

 

the only thing I can think of is that it was a chrome update which set me on this path I noticed it about mid to late spring of this year so I suspect I’d have to roll back fairly far even if I could. Where does Google hide its dinosaur downloads?

 

Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 14:16

Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

 

Have you re-installed Chrome? Can you trace the problem to a Chrome update?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

 

For me jaws 18 reads Chrome just fine, but J2018 will not read web Content.

 

This is before and after many repairs, reinstalls, updates and even move to Windows 10 creator update.

 

I first installed J2018 in mid-November. It worked fine for about a week then stopped reading web content in Chrome.

 

VFO tech support seems to be bewildered.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 10:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

 

running jaws 15 on a win7 64 machine and jaws13 on a win7 32 bit machine and chrome seems to behave badly on both. Whenever I try to visit a website regardless Chrome either crashes or does not read screen contents. Chrome behaves nicely with NVDA on both machines but not apparently chrome and JAWS. uninstalling and reinstalling chrome did not help nor did clearing the cashes on both machines. both have adiquit memory to run both chrome and jaws. This is a recent development which has been puzzling me for months.  I can't think of anything I've done to cause this equally bad behavior on both machines. What might I be missing?  


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

Ray T. Mahorney
 

prior to 15 I was a ble to use chrome adiquitly enough.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 17:05
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

I can't say I've had any luck with Chrome using JAWS 14. I haven't actually
had *good* luck with Chrome until I used 18. Thought it was just me, mind
you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ray T.
Mahorney via Groups.Io
Sent: December-31-17 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

I'm having the same thought and NVDA updated this morning when I ran it to
see how it behaved with Chrome and to this point, it has done so with no
subsequent bad behavior.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shai
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 08:50
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

Hi Ray,
I am not sure that JAWS 13 and 15 supported Chrome. If it did, I would
suggest uninstalling Chrome again and reinstalling which ever version was
supported at the time with these JAWS versions. I would also disable updates
to the browser as updating it is probably causing your issue. You indicated
in your message that NVDA had been supported by Chrome on these two machines
and I would wonder if you are running the most recent version of this screen
reader. If so, then it sounds like these JAWS versions are possibly not
supported by your set up.



On 12/30/17, Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
<mahorney.r.t=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
running jaws 15 on a win7 64 machine and jaws13 on a win7 32 bit
machine and chrome seems to behave badly on both. Whenever I try to
visit a website regardless Chrome either crashes or does not read
screen contents. Chrome behaves nicely with NVDA on both machines but
not apparently chrome and JAWS. uninstalling and reinstalling chrome
did not help nor did clearing the cashes on both machines. both have
adiquit memory to run both chrome and jaws. This is a recent
development which has been puzzling me for months.
I
can't think of anything I've done to cause this equally bad behavior
on both machines. What might I be missing?



Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA









Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


Re: some chicken nugget questions

Stephanie Switzer
 

Also, this is just a suggestion. If you are new to chicken nugget you might want to open up the manual and read it. There’s lots of useful information in the manual.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 1, 2018, at 5:13 PM, Stephanie Switzer <emmanrusty@gmail.com> wrote:

It’s because you don’t go to that. You go to where it says show or hide timeline when you click on that or do the hotkey for that a list of your timelines will come up. Among these are both friends and followers. If you hit show assuming that these timelines are hidden they will become available for you to see. However, the last time I checked chicken nugget shows both your friends and followers lists out of order and it doesn’t show all of them. This may be fixed now though. Followers lives in the dialogue that you were talking about is so you can see who’s following one of your friends a.k.a. the people that you are following or if you want to see the followers of a particular Twitter page that you want to follow or look at. Not your own. To get to the hide or show portion of the menu press control windows W to show or hide the window. When the window is shown press alt if you go down you will find a menu item that says edit keystrokes. The keystrokes to bring that up are in this list. Also you can arrow between each menu by pressing the left or right arrow keys. If you press up-and-down arrows you can go between each item in the menus.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 1, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Jed Barton <jedbarton@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey guys,

I'm running chicken nugget for twitter with jfw. Anyone on here run it?
I can figure a lot of it out, but i am trying to bring up a list of
people who i follow so i can clean it up. I went to relationships and
clicked on followers, and i tabbed over and it said 0 items. This
makes no sense cause i am following several hundred people. Any
ideas?




Re: chicken nugget has made computer unresponsive

Stephanie Switzer
 

If your computer was doing this before you install chicken nugget it’s likely not chicken nugget that’s the problem. However, if it is you can contact accessible apps on Twitter. I believe the owner has a general tech list and you may want to pose this question on that list instead of this one since this list is technically supposed to be for Jaws and freedom scientific related things. If it wasn’t it wouldn’t be called the Jaws for windows list. If you know that it is for sure chicken nugget that is the problem you might want to try uninstalling and reinstalling the program before you contact accessible apps on Twitter. They will most likely ask if you have done this.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 1, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Jed Barton <jedbarton@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey guys,

OK, i just installed chicken nugget for twitter. I'm running jfw,
version 18. This computer is virtually unresponsive, and certainly
not behaving the way that it should. I also think it's time to figure
out why things are really starting to slow down. I know that i don't
have any viruses but it's taking several minutes to boot up as well.
So perhaps time to do some house cleaning. Any ideas guys on things
to do?



Re: some chicken nugget questions

Stephanie Switzer
 

It’s because you don’t go to that. You go to where it says show or hide timeline when you click on that or do the hotkey for that a list of your timelines will come up. Among these are both friends and followers. If you hit show assuming that these timelines are hidden they will become available for you to see. However, the last time I checked chicken nugget shows both your friends and followers lists out of order and it doesn’t show all of them. This may be fixed now though. Followers lives in the dialogue that you were talking about is so you can see who’s following one of your friends a.k.a. the people that you are following or if you want to see the followers of a particular Twitter page that you want to follow or look at. Not your own. To get to the hide or show portion of the menu press control windows W to show or hide the window. When the window is shown press alt if you go down you will find a menu item that says edit keystrokes. The keystrokes to bring that up are in this list. Also you can arrow between each menu by pressing the left or right arrow keys. If you press up-and-down arrows you can go between each item in the menus.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 1, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Jed Barton <jedbarton@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey guys,

I'm running chicken nugget for twitter with jfw. Anyone on here run it?
I can figure a lot of it out, but i am trying to bring up a list of
people who i follow so i can clean it up. I went to relationships and
clicked on followers, and i tabbed over and it said 0 items. This
makes no sense cause i am following several hundred people. Any
ideas?



Re: jaws 2018 and windows 10 fall creator

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

I have a super fast machine that boots into windows in less than 5 seconds... This is with fast start disabled. Yet Jaws takes 10 to 15 seconds to start.
My win 7 machine starts Jaws immediately.

On 1/1/2018 11:53 AM, Lev wrote:
hi listers,

happny new year to everyone,

my question is this,

how much does it take to jaws start up when you turn on your computer?


I use windows 10 64 bits, intel core i5 and jaws 2018 and after I logged in it takes about 25 seconds to jaws to start up.

is this on the normal range?

what do you think?



--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett
Owner of Soundtique.
Grants Pass, Or.


Re: How to tell which programs are updating and slowing down my JAWS?

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Thanks Tim! That’s about what I figured too. I do get in need of doing something quickly after booting up my laptop, and I wish I could learn a way to pause the download, then fire it up again after I’m done with what I had to do.

Most times, I’m not in that much of a hurry, so just like you; I just walk away from it for a while.

 

 

Thanks much!......Mike

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2018 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to tell which programs are updating and slowing down my JAWS?

 

Hello Mike,

 

I am guessing it is Windows doing a major update, that is how JAWS acts for me as well running latest Windows 10 and JAWS 17.  I have just learned to spot the symptoms, and if my priorities allow, I just figure out other things to do while my computer updates.  I quit trying to beat the slowness, and figure it is just the price of automatic updates.  If this turns out to be the issue for you, you could change over to be prompted before an update processes, so you could pick the most convenient time.  I am now retired, so I am picking convenience!

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to tell which programs are updating and slowing down my JAWS?

 

OK so I just fired up my laptop and I’m trying to put together a word doc.

For the past 10 minutes, my JAWS program is running way big time slow, and locks up a bit too.

 

So I’m guessing I have a program receiving an update?

 

So my question is: how do I quickly find out if I’m indeed downloading any updates? I can’t tell you how frustrating it is when JAWS is spitting and sputtering along like an old model T!

 

Thanks much!......Mike


Re: jaws 2018 and windows 10 fall creator

netbat66
 

yes, and this is with a solid state drive.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lev
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2018 11:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws 2018 and windows 10 fall creator

hi listers,

happny new year to everyone,

my question is this,

how much does it take to jaws start up when you turn on your computer?


I use windows 10 64 bits, intel core i5 and jaws 2018 and after I logged
in it takes about 25 seconds to jaws to start up.

is this on the normal range?

what do you think?


jaws 2018 and windows 10 fall creator

Leo
 

hi listers,

happny new year to everyone,

my question is this,

how much does it take to jaws start up when you turn on your computer?


I use windows 10 64 bits, intel core i5 and jaws 2018 and after I logged in it takes about 25 seconds to jaws to start up.

is this on the normal range?

what do you think?


Re: How to tell which programs are updating and slowing down my JAWS?

Tim Ford
 

Hello Mike,

 

I am guessing it is Windows doing a major update, that is how JAWS acts for me as well running latest Windows 10 and JAWS 17.  I have just learned to spot the symptoms, and if my priorities allow, I just figure out other things to do while my computer updates.  I quit trying to beat the slowness, and figure it is just the price of automatic updates.  If this turns out to be the issue for you, you could change over to be prompted before an update processes, so you could pick the most convenient time.  I am now retired, so I am picking convenience!

 

Tim Ford

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to tell which programs are updating and slowing down my JAWS?

 

OK so I just fired up my laptop and I’m trying to put together a word doc.

For the past 10 minutes, my JAWS program is running way big time slow, and locks up a bit too.

 

So I’m guessing I have a program receiving an update?

 

So my question is: how do I quickly find out if I’m indeed downloading any updates? I can’t tell you how frustrating it is when JAWS is spitting and sputtering along like an old model T!

 

Thanks much!......Mike


chicken nugget has made computer unresponsive

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

Hey guys,

OK, i just installed chicken nugget for twitter. I'm running jfw,
version 18. This computer is virtually unresponsive, and certainly
not behaving the way that it should. I also think it's time to figure
out why things are really starting to slow down. I know that i don't
have any viruses but it's taking several minutes to boot up as well.
So perhaps time to do some house cleaning. Any ideas guys on things
to do?


some chicken nugget questions

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

Hey guys,

I'm running chicken nugget for twitter with jfw. Anyone on here run it?
I can figure a lot of it out, but i am trying to bring up a list of
people who i follow so i can clean it up. I went to relationships and
clicked on followers, and i tabbed over and it said 0 items. This
makes no sense cause i am following several hundred people. Any
ideas?


How to tell which programs are updating and slowing down my JAWS?

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

OK so I just fired up my laptop and I’m trying to put together a word doc.

For the past 10 minutes, my JAWS program is running way big time slow, and locks up a bit too.

 

So I’m guessing I have a program receiving an update?

 

So my question is: how do I quickly find out if I’m indeed downloading any updates? I can’t tell you how frustrating it is when JAWS is spitting and sputtering along like an old model T!

 

Thanks much!......Mike


List Rules, Mon, 1/1/18 #cal-notice

main@jfw.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

List Rules

When:
Monday, 1 January 2018
12:00am to 1:00am
(GMT-05:00) America/New York

Description:
The following is the current version of the JFW Mailing List policies. These are sent out monthly, and also available from:

http://groups.io/g/jfw/wiki/List-Policies 

 

**List Policies**

1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated.

2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject.

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5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration.

6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently.

As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io

James,
List Admin
 


Re: Jaws & Win10 Latest

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Mario,
 
I'm sorry, but being new to Widows 10 I forgot that by default everything is in Tile sort mode.  Try using up / down / left / & right arrow keys.  I don't know if that'll help, but it won't take but a few seconds to try.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws & Win10 Latest

following your steps, there is no startup folder. from spoonbill games,
one down arrow gets me sticky notes.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Sunday, Dec 31, 2017 4:55 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws & Win10 Latest

*Hi Mario,*
**
*Press the Windows key to open the Start menu, arrow to Programs, right
arrow to open, arrow down to, Start-up submenu, & right arrow to open.*
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mario <mailto:mrb620@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Sunday, December 31, 2017 10:23 AM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws & Win10 Latest

where is the startup folder located? I don't find it in the usual place
(windows key, up arrow to all programs, right arrow and start arrowing
down, s section doesn't have a startup folder.).


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Friday, Dec 29, 2017 7:49 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws & Win10 Latest

*Hi Sieghard,*
**
*None of these items are in the Start folder, but thanks for the
suggestion, that's something that didn't cross my mind. Thanks much.*
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 2:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws & Win10 Latest

I also get the “Main Menu”, but it only shows up when I reboot or turn
the computer on after it was off, once I close it it’s gone.

Things like OneNote, Settings etc. you might want to check your Startup
folder to see if any shortcuts/programs are being launched.

Regards,

Sieghard

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Mike B.
*Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 12:17 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Jaws & Win10 Latest

*Hi All,*

*Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest. Whenever I invoke the,
Insert / Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I
have the following listed / showing:*

*Cortana On Top **
*Main Menu On Top *
*Microsoft Store *
*Maximized Microsoft Store Restored *
*Microsoft® Windows® Operating System On Top *
*OneNote Maximized *
*OneNote Restored *
*Settings Maximized *
*Settings Restored *
*Start On Top *
*Windows Shell Experience Host On Top *
*Windows Shell Experience Host Restored**

*My question, how do I stop all the above crap from showing in the Task
list?! This is really irritating!*

*All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. A very happy &
prosperous New Year to all.*

*Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.**
*Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.**










Re: Jaws & Win10 Latest

Mario
 

following your steps, there is no startup folder. from spoonbill games,
one down arrow gets me sticky notes.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net]
Sent: Sunday, Dec 31, 2017 4:55 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws & Win10 Latest

*Hi Mario,*
**
*Press the Windows key to open the Start menu, arrow to Programs, right
arrow to open, arrow down to, Start-up submenu, & right arrow to open.*
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mario <mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Sunday, December 31, 2017 10:23 AM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws & Win10 Latest

where is the startup folder located? I don't find it in the usual place
(windows key, up arrow to all programs, right arrow and start arrowing
down, s section doesn't have a startup folder.).


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, Dec 29, 2017 7:49 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws & Win10 Latest

*Hi Sieghard,*
**
*None of these items are in the Start folder, but thanks for the
suggestion, that's something that didn't cross my mind. Thanks much.*
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@live.ca>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 2:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws & Win10 Latest

I also get the “Main Menu”, but it only shows up when I reboot or turn
the computer on after it was off, once I close it it’s gone.

Things like OneNote, Settings etc. you might want to check your Startup
folder to see if any shortcuts/programs are being launched.

Regards,

Sieghard

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Mike B.
*Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 12:17 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Jaws & Win10 Latest

*Hi All,*

*Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest. Whenever I invoke the,
Insert / Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I
have the following listed / showing:*

*Cortana On Top **
*Main Menu On Top *
*Microsoft Store *
*Maximized Microsoft Store Restored *
*Microsoft® Windows® Operating System On Top *
*OneNote Maximized *
*OneNote Restored *
*Settings Maximized *
*Settings Restored *
*Start On Top *
*Windows Shell Experience Host On Top *
*Windows Shell Experience Host Restored**

*My question, how do I stop all the above crap from showing in the Task
list?! This is really irritating!*

*All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. A very happy &
prosperous New Year to all.*

*Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.**
*Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.**


Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

Jason White
 

I would suggest removing Chrome and re-installing it.

 

I’m running Chrome here with JAWS 2018 and it’s working as well as it always has.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 5:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

 

the only thing I can think of is that it was a chrome update which set me on this path I noticed it about mid to late spring of this year so I suspect I’d have to roll back fairly far even if I could. Where does Google hide its dinosaur downloads?

 

Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 14:16

Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

 

Have you re-installed Chrome? Can you trace the problem to a Chrome update?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

 

For me jaws 18 reads Chrome just fine, but J2018 will not read web Content.

 

This is before and after many repairs, reinstalls, updates and even move to Windows 10 creator update.

 

I first installed J2018 in mid-November. It worked fine for about a week then stopped reading web content in Chrome.

 

VFO tech support seems to be bewildered.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 10:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

 

running jaws 15 on a win7 64 machine and jaws13 on a win7 32 bit machine and chrome seems to behave badly on both. Whenever I try to visit a website regardless Chrome either crashes or does not read screen contents. Chrome behaves nicely with NVDA on both machines but not apparently chrome and JAWS. uninstalling and reinstalling chrome did not help nor did clearing the cashes on both machines. both have adiquit memory to run both chrome and jaws. This is a recent development which has been puzzling me for months.  I can't think of anything I've done to cause this equally bad behavior on both machines. What might I be missing?  


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

James Homuth
 

I can't say I've had any luck with Chrome using JAWS 14. I haven't actually
had *good* luck with Chrome until I used 18. Thought it was just me, mind
you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ray T.
Mahorney via Groups.Io
Sent: December-31-17 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

I'm having the same thought and NVDA updated this morning when I ran it to
see how it behaved with Chrome and to this point, it has done so with no
subsequent bad behavior.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shai
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 08:50
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

Hi Ray,
I am not sure that JAWS 13 and 15 supported Chrome. If it did, I would
suggest uninstalling Chrome again and reinstalling which ever version was
supported at the time with these JAWS versions. I would also disable updates
to the browser as updating it is probably causing your issue. You indicated
in your message that NVDA had been supported by Chrome on these two machines
and I would wonder if you are running the most recent version of this screen
reader. If so, then it sounds like these JAWS versions are possibly not
supported by your set up.



On 12/30/17, Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
<mahorney.r.t=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
running jaws 15 on a win7 64 machine and jaws13 on a win7 32 bit
machine and chrome seems to behave badly on both. Whenever I try to
visit a website regardless Chrome either crashes or does not read
screen contents. Chrome behaves nicely with NVDA on both machines but
not apparently chrome and JAWS. uninstalling and reinstalling chrome
did not help nor did clearing the cashes on both machines. both have
adiquit memory to run both chrome and jaws. This is a recent
development which has been puzzling me for months.
I
can't think of anything I've done to cause this equally bad behavior
on both machines. What might I be missing?



Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

Ray T. Mahorney
 

the only thing I can think of is that it was a chrome update which set me on this path I noticed it about mid to late spring of this year so I suspect I’d have to roll back fairly far even if I could. Where does Google hide its dinosaur downloads?
 

Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 14:16
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines
 

Have you re-installed Chrome? Can you trace the problem to a Chrome update?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

 

For me jaws 18 reads Chrome just fine, but J2018 will not read web Content.

 

This is before and after many repairs, reinstalls, updates and even move to Windows 10 creator update.

 

I first installed J2018 in mid-November. It worked fine for about a week then stopped reading web content in Chrome.

 

VFO tech support seems to be bewildered.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 10:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

 

running jaws 15 on a win7 64 machine and jaws13 on a win7 32 bit machine and chrome seems to behave badly on both. Whenever I try to visit a website regardless Chrome either crashes or does not read screen contents. Chrome behaves nicely with NVDA on both machines but not apparently chrome and JAWS. uninstalling and reinstalling chrome did not help nor did clearing the cashes on both machines. both have adiquit memory to run both chrome and jaws. This is a recent development which has been puzzling me for months.  I can't think of anything I've done to cause this equally bad behavior on both machines. What might I be missing?  


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

Ray T. Mahorney
 

I'm having the same thought and NVDA updated this morning when I ran it to see how it behaved with Chrome and to this point, it has done so with no subsequent bad behavior.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shai
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 08:50
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and chrome behaving equally badly on 2 machines

Hi Ray,
I am not sure that JAWS 13 and 15 supported Chrome. If it did, I would
suggest uninstalling Chrome again and reinstalling which ever version
was supported at the time with these JAWS versions. I would also
disable updates to the browser as updating it is probably causing your
issue. You indicated in your message that NVDA had been supported by
Chrome on these two machines and I would wonder if you are running the
most recent version of this screen reader. If so, then it sounds like
these JAWS versions are possibly not supported by your set up.



On 12/30/17, Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
<mahorney.r.t=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
running jaws 15 on a win7 64 machine and jaws13 on a win7 32 bit machine and
chrome seems to behave badly on both. Whenever I try to visit a website
regardless Chrome either crashes or does not read screen contents. Chrome
behaves nicely with NVDA on both machines but not apparently chrome and
JAWS. uninstalling and reinstalling chrome did not help nor did clearing the
cashes on both machines. both have adiquit memory to run both chrome and
jaws. This is a recent development which has been puzzling me for months. I
can't think of anything I've done to cause this equally bad behavior on both
machines. What might I be missing?



Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA