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Re: Navigating the audible.com site with jaws

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi Sieghard,

Primarily I have these issues when following links in recommendation
newsletters like our editors recommend blah blah blah. It seems the
recommended titles are contained in listboxes though they don't seem
to function like any listboxes I've ever seen before.

I'm using jaws on a windows 7 computer and see the same issues
regardless of whether I access the site with firefox or internet
explorer.

Interestingly, if I go to the audible site and perform a search for an
author or title everything is fine and I can move around the page just
as you describe. Apparently these listboxes are used only in certain
situations like the recommendations I described above.

Kim

On 12/6/17, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

Hoping someone can help me. I've been an audible subscriber for a long
time but recent changes on the site have made it next to impossible to
read with jaws.

For example, I receive the newsletter with recommendations but when I
click through to the site, I am confronted with listbox after listbox
with no way of accessing the information contained there. Pressing
enter supposedly opens the listbox but then what? Down arrow does
nothing and tab just takes me out of the area I'm trying to read.

It would be great if someone could tell me how to manage this crazy layout.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kim

--
Kimberly



--
Kimberly


Re: free registry cleaners

HH. Smith Jr.
 

I’ve used Avast on and off for quite some time. at this moment, I got this one free from an in store promotional offer. I usually just run windows defender and I’ve been pretty secure since installing Windows10. I probably will remove avast from my system for the new year. It gets a little frustrating with the ongoing accessibility issues. However, it has worked well for me as an antivirus software and only that. My registry cleaner for a number of years has been CCleaner. It has worked well for me and is currently working great for me. And CCleaner is very accessible which is a plus for me. but ultimately; a messed up registry is usually fixed by other tools associated with CCleaner. Your computer usually goes down with a Windows OS issue or a malfunctioning app. Scanning your OS with the sfc /scannow command in an elevated command prompt and uninstalling the troubled app and reinstalling it usually resolves most of your issues.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 11:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: free registry cleaners

 

Thought about it, but am concerned about reports I’m hearing of a serious near-breach of security that happened back in Sept; comments alluded to Avast trying to cover their own butt by saying that no one was harmed. I’d be interested in your feedback after you’ve had a chance to look into the issue, too. Also, Avast products seem to be becoming less and less screen-reader-friendly, though perhaps not C Cleaner itself. So, jury’s out, at this point—not going to make any hasty moves until I hear additional comments here from anyone who’s used it since Sept. Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 10:00 PM

Subject: Re: free registry cleaners

 

Hi Sandra,

 

Try CCleaner.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 9:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: free registry cleaners

 

Hello,

 

Anyone know if there’s a free registry cleaner compatible with Jaws 16 on a Win. 7 machine? thanks!

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Hi All test Addison here

Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...>
 

Loud and clear friend

Sugar

 

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Marvin J. Ashton

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Please support my Journey to a second chance of life at:

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Hi All test Addison here

 

Hi All  I’m checking too see if I coming through here.

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: free registry cleaners

Sandra Streeter
 

Thought about it, but am concerned about reports I’m hearing of a serious near-breach of security that happened back in Sept; comments alluded to Avast trying to cover their own butt by saying that no one was harmed. I’d be interested in your feedback after you’ve had a chance to look into the issue, too. Also, Avast products seem to be becoming less and less screen-reader-friendly, though perhaps not C Cleaner itself. So, jury’s out, at this point—not going to make any hasty moves until I hear additional comments here from anyone who’s used it since Sept. Thanks!
 
 
 
 
 
Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)
 

Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: free registry cleaners
 

Hi Sandra,

 

Try CCleaner.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 9:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: free registry cleaners

 

Hello,

 

Anyone know if there’s a free registry cleaner compatible with Jaws 16 on a Win. 7 machine? thanks!

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: free registry cleaners

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi Sandra,

 

Try CCleaner.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 9:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: free registry cleaners

 

Hello,

 

Anyone know if there’s a free registry cleaner compatible with Jaws 16 on a Win. 7 machine? thanks!

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Hi All test Addison here

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Coming thru fine here.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 9:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Hi All test Addison here

 

Hi All  I’m checking too see if I coming through here.

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


free registry cleaners

Sandra Streeter
 

Hello,
 
Anyone know if there’s a free registry cleaner compatible with Jaws 16 on a Win. 7 machine? thanks!
 
 
Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Hi All test Addison here

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All  I’m checking too see if I coming through here.

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Disk imaging accessible software

 

Hello,

I tried to create a WinPe and WinRe copy with IFW, but Narrator does not come up. How do you recommend using this copy in an accessible way?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Disk imaging accessible software

I have tried OnePassword a year or so ago, but I didn't quite see how it would help: Sure, it gave me a place to save all the passwords in a vault, but I never got automatic logging in to work. That meant I still had to go to my old luddite source (paper, braillenote file, or whatever I had) to find that Amazon or Bookshare password and type it in. And I must say the developers seemed super nice and willing to make improvements, yet I parted ways with OnePassword.

What did I miss?


Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

Thanks fo the recommendation. I've been looking for something like this for years. Web passwords and credit cards I give to 1Password.
Registration strings for software I tend to put into plain-text files.
Not secure, I know, but for most of them, the thief would have to sign into accounts that are unknown.


On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, Jonas Voll wrote:
Hey Steve. Nice demo!
I hope you do not have all your keys and passwords in plane text files on your pc!
Check out Keepass!
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhqS9MVEN4QY&data=02%7C01%7Cadikushnir%40outl
ook.com%7C3a8262b641c3473fb5e108d53b6755b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaa
aaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636480237355878743&sdata=P3ERc9YtZKKOb5c3jP9Qz8ON1mw
8iXGyd%2FNz6B4ccj0%3D&reserved=0


Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.envisionus.com
&data=02%7C01%7Cadikushnir%40outlook.com%7C3a8262b641c3473fb5e108d53b6
755b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636480237355878743&
sdata=vRuSdB26rDgiawNwVLK1ivwpD5n1i7uPAzlgWwEJBd0%3D&reserved=0

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

LOL dave I haven't heard that line in a while remember some got perty outraged when I used that years ago...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: December 2, 2017 8:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

Doug,

Try using Google to look it up. Google is your friend.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 17:14
Subject: Re: Disk imaging accessibil software


whatever that word means?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
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On 12/1/2017 6:50 PM, Mario wrote:
Mahalo.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Steve Matzura [mailto:number6@noisynotes.com]
Sent: Friday, Dec 1, 2017 7:24 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Disk imaging accessibil software

Oh, did I fudge that? So sorry! Here it is.

https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
.dropbox.com%2Fs%2Fgg10t516n0azszx%2FPE%2520Builder.mp3%3Fdl%3D1&data
=02%7C01%7Cadikushnir%40outlook.com%7C3a8262b641c3473fb5e108d53b6755b
6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636480237355878743&sda
ta=GRYDjEkvFTCswHrtXfYcCkUFc8boG2Mm5JxKRJpUjf4%3D&reserved=0



On 12/1/2017 1:03 PM, Mario wrote:
Steve, I don't remember seeing a link to get your demo. could you
resend it please?
TIA

------- Original Message --------
From: Steve Matzura [mailto:number6@noisynotes.com]
Sent: Monday, Nov 27, 2017 9:53 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Disk imaging accessibil software

Yes, that is correct. The reason for having to do this is that,
unlike other backup/restore solutions that can run from the boot
drive when restoring the boot drive, Terabyte works diferently. In
other words, the drive to which you are restoring cannot be the drive that is booted.
That's why you have to run the PE Builder to create a standalone copy
of IFW. I created a short audio on how to do it. I will dig it out
and post a link to it so you can hear how it's done.


On 11/27/2017 9:41 AM, Jonas Voll wrote:

So in stepp 2. Use the PE Builder to create a standalone copy of IFW
on a separate drive. It can even be on a USB drive as it's quite small.

Is this to create the software program you will need to restore your
backup?

I will assume it�s a small program from �Terabyte Drive Image
Backup and Restore Suite -
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.terabyteunlimited.com%C3%AF&data=02%7C01%7Cadikushnir%40outlook.com%7C3a8262b641c3473fb5e108d53b6755b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636480237355878743&sdata=1HW74M%2BWVPMvNozW9orHnnyTDP3RhDZYS72b6QsXfok%3D&reserved=0¿½ that you need to restore from your backups?

JonasVoll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.envisionus.co
m&data=02%7C01%7Cadikushnir%40outlook.com%7C3a8262b641c3473fb5e108d53
b6755b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6364802373558787
43&sdata=vRuSdB26rDgiawNwVLK1ivwpD5n1i7uPAzlgWwEJBd0%3D&reserved=0
<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww
.envisionus.com&data=02%7C01%7Cadikushnir%40outlook.com%7C3a8262b641c
3473fb5e108d53b6755b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63
6480237355878743&sdata=akEIgypWw6%2BVlqi8WHJikts0kmSDX76dKambW4kU38g%
3D&reserved=0>

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and
opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through
employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Steve Matzura
*Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 8:33 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

Short version:

Assuming the software was installed, first be sure to check the
"accessible checkboxes" option in Settings. Then:

1. Make a full image backup of the drive in question.

2. Use the PE Builder to create a standalone copy of IFW on a
separate drive. It can even be on a USB drive as it's quite small.

3. Go to
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
opopanax.net%2Fdownload&data=02%7C01%7Cadikushnir%40outlook.com%7C3a8
262b641c3473fb5e108d53b6755b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%
7C0%7C636480237355878743&sdata=LXb%2FRgYvL9%2FA3OV2wIfaUw7%2BTbYt090o%2BmZ0wuNzBZ4%3D&reserved=0 and obtain the Windows pre-installation environment creator for your operating system, Windows 7 or 10, 32- or 64-bit, as you'll need this to restore a boot drive. Run the creator and make one, either on a USB thumb drive or DVD. Your system will need to be able to boot from the chosen medium.

When you need to restore:

1. If you're restoring the boot drive, boot the PE you created in
Step 2, then run the standalone copy of IFW you created in Step 3.
Otherwise, run the installed copy.

2. Choose the restore function, automatic restore. Follow the prompts.

On 11/27/2017 9:06 AM, Jonas Voll wrote:

Can you give us some exampels of how one can use this software to
restor a harddrive that�s is the main boot harddrive from a backup
job?

*Jonas Voll*
Support Technician I
*Envision, Inc.*
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312

https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.envisionus.co
m&data=02%7C01%7Cadikushnir%40outlook.com%7C3a8262b641c3473fb5e108d53
b6755b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6364802373558787
43&sdata=vRuSdB26rDgiawNwVLK1ivwpD5n1i7uPAzlgWwEJBd0%3D&reserved=0
<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww
.envisionus.com&data=02%7C01%7Cadikushnir%40outlook.com%7C3a8262b641c
3473fb5e108d53b6755b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63
6480237355878743&sdata=akEIgypWw6%2BVlqi8WHJikts0kmSDX76dKambW4kU38g%
3D&reserved=0>

*Envision: */To improve the quality of life and provide
inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually
impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education
and research./

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Steve Matzura
*Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 7:56 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite -

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terabyteunlimited.com&data=02%7C01%7Cadikushnir%40outlook.com%7C3a826
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On 11/25/2017 4:22 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:

Hi:

This is Nino, does anybody know of backup and restore that can
be used by Jaws or Nvda.

I can backup the computer I just cant restore it with out
sighted assistance.

I have a dell xps8900 desktop computer running windows10.

Thank you in advance.

Have a good day.


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Re: correctly Updating Jaws

Maria Campbell
 

Same here.


lucky1inct@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 12/6/2017 11:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Dave,

From my own personal experience I can tell you that in all the years Jaws offered the "Check for Updates" option and where minor updates were done this way I never ever had an issue with this. After all, if there is an update of whatever size it is first downloaded before the install starts, but to each their own.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 7:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: correctly Updating Jaws

Respectfully disagree, Steve...

Directly updating from the Help menu via the Internet connection has been demonstrated numerous times by users to fail during the process. It leans heavily on the connection being reliable throughout the process and if it does not, the update is compromised with possible bad result.

Much safer to do the download as a separate process, and then to run the executable on the computer.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 07:12
Subject: Re: correctly Updating Jaws


The Help menu way is easier and doesn't leave anything hanging around,
unless of course one runs the downloaded file rather than saving it first.


On 12/6/2017 10:08 AM, george b wrote:
Use the link and always update by downloading the latest from that page
and then install over the top of the running version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice
Mijares
Sent: December 6, 2017 7:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: correctly Updating Jaws

Which is the correct way of updating Jaws? Through Jaws help menu, check
for updates or by the link provided late yesterday? Thank you for the
info.













Re: Navigating the audible.com site with jaws

 

Hi Kim,

Is this on a PC? I just followed the link from my Daily Deal newsletter and saw no difference, heading level 1 took me to the book title, then heading level 2 pressed twice took me to the publisher's notes/description..
I also closed Audible and then opened it just by going to www.Audible.com, I then searched for an author, Kenn Follett, and all his books were listed, I had the usual Add to Cart, Add to Wishlist etc, also the play sample and pressing enter on the book title took me into the details screen.
I then went to my wish list and after adding one Ken Follett book to the cart I added the new Clive Cussler Dirk Pitt book from my wish list, then went to the cart and checked out as normal.
Can you explain more where you experience these list boxes, what computer, browser and screenreader do you use? For me with Windows 10, Google Chrome and Jaws 2018 the site is perfectly accessible.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Navigating the audible.com site with jaws

Hi all,

Hoping someone can help me. I've been an audible subscriber for a long time but recent changes on the site have made it next to impossible to read with jaws.

For example, I receive the newsletter with recommendations but when I click through to the site, I am confronted with listbox after listbox with no way of accessing the information contained there. Pressing enter supposedly opens the listbox but then what? Down arrow does nothing and tab just takes me out of the area I'm trying to read.

It would be great if someone could tell me how to manage this crazy layout.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kim

--
Kimberly


Navigating the audible.com site with jaws

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi all,

Hoping someone can help me. I've been an audible subscriber for a long
time but recent changes on the site have made it next to impossible to
read with jaws.

For example, I receive the newsletter with recommendations but when I
click through to the site, I am confronted with listbox after listbox
with no way of accessing the information contained there. Pressing
enter supposedly opens the listbox but then what? Down arrow does
nothing and tab just takes me out of the area I'm trying to read.

It would be great if someone could tell me how to manage this crazy layout.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kim

--
Kimberly


Re: correctly Updating Jaws

Steve Matzura
 

Not a viable option? People must be on tin cans and strings for it not to be a viable option.

On 12/6/2017 10:28 AM, Maria Campbell wrote:
If updating from the help menu is not a viable option, VFO should eliminate the option.


lucky1inct@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 12/6/2017 10:26 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Thank you for the info.

On 12/6/2017 7:08 AM, george b wrote:
Use the link and always update by downloading the latest from that page and then install over the top of the running version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: December 6, 2017 7:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: correctly Updating Jaws

Which is the correct way of updating Jaws? Through Jaws help menu, check for updates or by the link provided late yesterday? Thank you for the info.










Re: correctly Updating Jaws

Steve Matzura
 

OK,there's that, yes.

On 12/6/2017 10:22 AM, Dave... wrote:
Respectfully disagree, Steve...

Directly updating from the Help menu via the Internet connection has been
demonstrated numerous times by users to fail during the process. It leans
heavily on the connection being reliable throughout the process and if it
does not, the update is compromised with possible bad result.

Much safer to do the download as a separate process, and then to run the
executable on the computer.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 07:12
Subject: Re: correctly Updating Jaws


The Help menu way is easier and doesn't leave anything hanging around,
unless of course one runs the downloaded file rather than saving it first.


On 12/6/2017 10:08 AM, george b wrote:
Use the link and always update by downloading the latest from that page
and then install over the top of the running version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice
Mijares
Sent: December 6, 2017 7:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: correctly Updating Jaws

Which is the correct way of updating Jaws? Through Jaws help menu, check
for updates or by the link provided late yesterday? Thank you for the
info.










Re: correctly Updating Jaws

 

Hi Dave,

From my own personal experience I can tell you that in all the years Jaws offered the "Check for Updates" option and where minor updates were done this way I never ever had an issue with this. After all, if there is an update of whatever size it is first downloaded before the install starts, but to each their own.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 7:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: correctly Updating Jaws

Respectfully disagree, Steve...

Directly updating from the Help menu via the Internet connection has been demonstrated numerous times by users to fail during the process. It leans heavily on the connection being reliable throughout the process and if it does not, the update is compromised with possible bad result.

Much safer to do the download as a separate process, and then to run the executable on the computer.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 07:12
Subject: Re: correctly Updating Jaws


The Help menu way is easier and doesn't leave anything hanging around,
unless of course one runs the downloaded file rather than saving it first.


On 12/6/2017 10:08 AM, george b wrote:
Use the link and always update by downloading the latest from that page
and then install over the top of the running version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice
Mijares
Sent: December 6, 2017 7:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: correctly Updating Jaws

Which is the correct way of updating Jaws? Through Jaws help menu, check
for updates or by the link provided late yesterday? Thank you for the
info.







Re: correctly Updating Jaws

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Maria. In certain network situations, updating via the Help Menu is the only option because of firewalls, and the need for Administrator Permission. Just because an option is provided doesn't guarantee that it is the best option for your situation.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: correctly Updating Jaws

If updating from the help menu is not a viable option, VFO should
eliminate the option.


lucky1inct@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 12/6/2017 10:26 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Thank you for the info.

On 12/6/2017 7:08 AM, george b wrote:
Use the link and always update by downloading the latest from that
page and then install over the top of the running version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brice Mijares
Sent: December 6, 2017 7:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: correctly Updating Jaws

Which is the correct way of updating Jaws? Through Jaws help menu,
check for updates or by the link provided late yesterday? Thank you
for the info.









Re: correctly Updating Jaws

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Updating via the link provided yesterday usually gives the best results. I have seen situations where updating via the JAWS Check For Updates caused me to need a JAWS repair afterwords.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 7:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: correctly Updating Jaws

Which is the correct way of updating Jaws? Through Jaws help menu, check
for updates or by the link provided late yesterday? Thank you for the info.


Re: correctly Updating Jaws

Maria Campbell
 

If updating from the help menu is not a viable option, VFO should eliminate the option.


lucky1inct@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 12/6/2017 10:26 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Thank you for the info.

On 12/6/2017 7:08 AM, george b wrote:
Use the link and always update by downloading the latest from that page and then install over the top of the running version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: December 6, 2017 7:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: correctly Updating Jaws

Which is the correct way of updating Jaws? Through Jaws help menu, check for updates or by the link provided late yesterday? Thank you for the info.








Re: correctly Updating Jaws

Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
 

Thank you for the info.

On 12/6/2017 7:08 AM, george b wrote:
Use the link and always update by downloading the latest from that page and then install over the top of the running version.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: December 6, 2017 7:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: correctly Updating Jaws
Which is the correct way of updating Jaws? Through Jaws help menu, check for updates or by the link provided late yesterday? Thank you for the info.


Re: correctly Updating Jaws

Dave...
 

Respectfully disagree, Steve...

Directly updating from the Help menu via the Internet connection has been
demonstrated numerous times by users to fail during the process. It leans
heavily on the connection being reliable throughout the process and if it
does not, the update is compromised with possible bad result.

Much safer to do the download as a separate process, and then to run the
executable on the computer.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 07:12
Subject: Re: correctly Updating Jaws


The Help menu way is easier and doesn't leave anything hanging around,
unless of course one runs the downloaded file rather than saving it first.


On 12/6/2017 10:08 AM, george b wrote:
Use the link and always update by downloading the latest from that page
and then install over the top of the running version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice
Mijares
Sent: December 6, 2017 7:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: correctly Updating Jaws

Which is the correct way of updating Jaws? Through Jaws help menu, check
for updates or by the link provided late yesterday? Thank you for the
info.