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Re: JAWS and Malwarebytes

Robert Logue
 

Not using Malwarebytes right now. But I think you can get to the menus from the system tray. See if it shows up there. Then right click or press context key and use arrows to bring up a menu. Sorry my memory isn't more precice.


Bob

On 2017-11-27 6:40 AM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hello:
Does anyone use malwarebytes. I've just installed it on my computer,
and it is not working. Each time I attempt to use it, it does not
open.
I use JAWS16, and I use windows 7-32bit.
If anyone uses it, how do you use it. I launched it from the start
menu, and also from the all programs submenu, but as I said it didn't
open.
Please help if you can.
From Ibrahim.


Re: Jaws update purchase

Onwardbob
 

Just wondering why they charged me $180 for the same thing???

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Pearson
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws update purchase

Howdy:

Just purchased next 2 Jaws releases for $120 + applicable state tax(though
I'm far from profficient on latest release).

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson


Re: Jaws update purchase

Onwardbob
 

Seriously, I just paid $180. for the same!

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Pearson
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws update purchase

Howdy:

Just purchased next 2 Jaws releases for $120 + applicable state tax(though
I'm far from profficient on latest release).

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson


Fix for Excel 2016 crashing when typing formulas, was Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Sieghard & all,

Good news! I found a fix for the issue of Excel 2016 crashing when
typing a formula while running a screen reader.

Here's what to do...

1. in Excel, go to File > Options (Alt +F, T).
2. Arrow down to "Formulas".
3. Tab till you hear Jaws say "Working with Formulas, Formula
AutoComplete, checked", and press the spacebar to uncheck the formula
autocomplete.
4. Tab to the OK button and press enter. Now try to type a formula,
and all should be well!

I found an article on the web where someone was having this issue with
Excel on the Mac, and he tried turning off a number of options, and
found that an autocomplete option was causing his issues. The options
were a little different, but I went through all the autocomplete
options, and tried the formula autocomplete and was so excited to find
that it worked!

Good luck all.

Russell


Jaws update purchase

David Pearson
 

Howdy:

Just purchased next 2 Jaws releases for $120 + applicable state tax(though I'm far from profficient on latest release).

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson


Re: Copying settings file

Van Lant, Robin
 

Thanks, Jonas.  I wish I could get admin rights, but our company is very tight on that. Thankfully, the IT guy is in my building and is pretty generous with letting me walk over and him entering the necessary admin credentials when I need to do an update.  I could see this being a real pain if I was in a satellite office with no onsite tech guy who knows me and has seen screen readers in action on my  laptops for years now.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copying settings file

 

You will be good with doing that, you may want the guy to make you an administrator on the pc so you can install updates and stuff like that!

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Copying settings file

 

I’m running Windows 10 and Office 2010 at home where I have installed the latest JAWS in my transition from Window Eyes.  Shortly I’ll be having our IT team at work install JAWS on my work laptop, which is currently still on Windows 7 and Office 2010.  I saw something on the list or in a podcast about copying the settings file to allow me to transfer my settings I’ve created to then have them all on my work laptop – which sounds great.  Is there any problem in doing this, given that I’m on different operating systems?  I’m not thinking so, but since I do not have admin rights to my work laptop, I’m just trying to think ahead to any setup requirements or issues I could face when I have the IT guy on hand.  

 

 

 

 

 

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Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance

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Re: Copying settings file

Jonas Voll
 

You will be good with doing that, you may want the guy to make you an administrator on the pc so you can install updates and stuff like that!

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Copying settings file

 

I’m running Windows 10 and Office 2010 at home where I have installed the latest JAWS in my transition from Window Eyes.  Shortly I’ll be having our IT team at work install JAWS on my work laptop, which is currently still on Windows 7 and Office 2010.  I saw something on the list or in a podcast about copying the settings file to allow me to transfer my settings I’ve created to then have them all on my work laptop – which sounds great.  Is there any problem in doing this, given that I’m on different operating systems?  I’m not thinking so, but since I do not have admin rights to my work laptop, I’m just trying to think ahead to any setup requirements or issues I could face when I have the IT guy on hand.  

 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager

Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance

720-304-1060 | Robin_Van_Lant@...

 



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Copying settings file

Van Lant, Robin
 

I’m running Windows 10 and Office 2010 at home where I have installed the latest JAWS in my transition from Window Eyes.  Shortly I’ll be having our IT team at work install JAWS on my work laptop, which is currently still on Windows 7 and Office 2010.  I saw something on the list or in a podcast about copying the settings file to allow me to transfer my settings I’ve created to then have them all on my work laptop – which sounds great.  Is there any problem in doing this, given that I’m on different operating systems?  I’m not thinking so, but since I do not have admin rights to my work laptop, I’m just trying to think ahead to any setup requirements or issues I could face when I have the IT guy on hand.  

 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager

Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance

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Re: Creating accessible, fillable PDFs?

Johnson, Joanne
 

Thanks Brian! I would love an example. I'm familiar with MS Word, including Styles to increase accessibility, but not forms. 

Also...I've had several screen reader users recently tell me they generally can't access Word or that they prefer PDF.  I am guessing it's because not everyone has Word, but if you have other thoughts as to why this might be, please let me know.

Thank you!


Re: FS Cast

Dave Durber
 


Hello Bill:
 
Tap the Windows key and type
 
Default programs
 
and press enter, then she should follow the instructions.
 
Sincerely:
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: FS Cast

Hi, Margaret. Try the following keystroke:

 

Press the Windows key and type the words control panel into the search box until JAWS says:

 

Control Panel Desktop App.

 

Then press ENTER. You will then be in the Control Panel.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Johnson
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hello,

 

Please tell me what key stroke to use for the control panel.

 

Thank you,

Margaret

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hi Carol,

 

I don't know which method you're using to make WinAmp your default player, but below are the steps I use to set my default programs:

 

Try the following:

1. Go to the control panel, then find, Default Programs Link, & press enter.

2. Tab to, Set Your Default Programs Link, & press enter.  Wait a few seconds for the list to populate.

3. Tab 1 time into, List View, & you should have a list of programs.  Arrow down to, WinAmp, & tab to, Set This Program As Default button, & press the spacebar.

4. Tab to, Choose Defaults for this Program button, & press the spacebar.

5. Press the spacebar on the, Select All, checkbox to check it, tab to the, Save button, & press the spacebar.

6. Tab to the, Okay button, press the spacebar, & Press, Alt + F4, to close.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:09 AM

Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Yes, it should, but I never found one.  That is why I keep it disabled.

Carol


On 9/16/2017 11:19 AM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
> It could also be that jaws is actually running media player rather
> than relying on windows to choose a program.
>
> Media player should, however, have a setting where it accepts not
> being the default player and then it won't ask again if it happens to
> not be the default.
>
> On 9/16/17, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:
>> Just uninstall it. add/remove programs then shift tab to change windows
>> options or features then in the lis uncheck Windows Media Player. Thhis
>> will remove it completly
>> On 9/15/2017 5:36 PM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> Yes, and I don't even have media player configured.  Winamp is
>>> directed to always be the default player.  Normally, if I do need
>>> media player, I find myself having to go through the setup and then I
>>> remove it again when I no longer need it.  Well, I don't actually
>>> remove it, I just disable it in the Windows features.  I should maybe
>>> add that I am running Win7 on a desktop pc.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/15/2017 4:12 PM, Walker, Michael E wrote:
>>>> My bad in how I asked the question. Do you have Winamp configured as
>>>> your default media player?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: Creating accessible, fillable PDFs?

Michael Mote
 

Hi Brian!  I would be interested in learning more about this.  I have tried to create forms in Word.  I’ve had success  with that, but my problems start when I save the form as a PDF.  The form doesn’t translate over tr the way that it should.  For instance, my edit fields are not recognized by Adobe Acrobat.  I know I must be doing something wrong, but have never been able to figure it out.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 7:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating accessible, fillable PDFs?

 

As a quick aside, I have always found that MS-Word forms, using the legacy form fields, are a lot more accessible and screen-reader friendly than PDFs are.

Very few people even know how to create a form template (and I don't mean a regular document template) in MS-Word.  I have no idea why these have never taken off, but I've used them with a number of clients and can provide examples if someone wants them.

--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1709, Build 16299  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

 
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Microsoft Project

Pablo Morales
 

Hello all,

Anybody know if are there some scripts for Microsoft Project 2013?

Or, anybody know if is there a good accessible replacement for Microsoft Project?

Thanks for all,

 


Re: Trouble with entering addresses in outlook 2016

Stan Holdeman
 

Bonnie: You are not the only one with this problem. I am having it with Outlook 2016 and so is a friend. I think it an Outlook problem rather than a Jaws issue.

Stan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with entering addresses in outlook 2016

Sorry, I had to finish my last email in a bit of a hurry. Thanks so much for this! Explanation. The problem is that it is no longer allowing me to choose the email it auto fills, it’s picking on its own. It’s clear that some setting somewhere has changed. It’s picking an email and then picking a second and third email when I continue to try to type the email that I want. It’s extremely frustrating. I am up to the current release of jaws, and I’m thinking that somewhere some setting got accidentally shifted. I don’t know why else the behavior would have suddenly changed. I will try to look at the Settings box that you mentioned, but I do want it to auto fill, I just want to have some control over what it auto fills.

I guess no one else is having this problem, though. So it’s something about my settings.


Thanks, Bonnie
On Nov 27, 2017, at 11:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

This has always been this way except that for a while the auto-complete function was broken and Jaws didn't read the suggestions which popped up as you type.
Personally I find this extremely convenient because for the most part I just have to type the first few letters of an email and the rest is automatically filled or I can type a few letters and then down arrow to find the one I want.
But, if I have an email which starts with "john" and I have 5 emails in my auto complete which start with John then I just keep typing and ignore the suggestions and as soon as you type the first letter that is different than all the addresses your auto-complete remembers it will stop.
What version of Jaws are you using? In 2018 the behaviour has changed a bit in that it now only reads the first suggestion when you type 2 or 3 letters, after that it stops and you have to actually down arrow to hear the rest.
Of course if you really hate this you can turn this off by going to File > Options, then go to the "Mail" tab/category (most likely you have to down arrow once) and now you have to either tab I think 36 times or back tab (shift+tab) 23 times to get to the following item:

Use Auto-Complete List to suggest names when typing in the To, Cc, and Bcc lines check box checked
ALT+g

Press the spacebar to uncheck this and, for good measure, tab once more to the buttonv "Empty Auto Complete List" and press the spacebar to activate it which will clear out your list of auto complete suggestions.
OK, now that I told you how to do it the long way (it's a good idea to tab through all these options to see what's there), here is the easy way which means the keyboard shortcut:
Alt+F followed by T opens Options.
Find the Mail tab/category by using down arrow (or up arrow), it's the second from the top after "General".
Press Alt+G and this will uncheck the " Use Auto-Complete List to suggest names when typing in the To, Cc, and Bcc lines" check box.
Now tab once more to the "Empty 'Auto Complete List" and activate it, then don't forget to tab about 22 times to "OK" and activate it, if you don't the setting won't stick.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Trouble with entering addresses in outlook 2016

Hello, I started having this problem probably a month or maybe two months ago. I actually don’t use Outlook all that often, as usually are use my phone. However, when I am in Outlook and try to enter an email address, The program takes the first letter I typed in and picks up the very first email address that matches and insert it, even before I can type a second letter. Then it takes the second letter and vines that email address and inserts that. Needless to say, this does not work at all for me getting the correct address into my address line. I don’t know why it has changed, or why it is so difficult to type in an address that I want. I don’t want to have to go to my address book every time I want to put in addresses, as I don’t actually keep my address book in outlook, so it is kind of a pain to get to. Does anyone have a fix for this? I just wanted to let me type in the whole word before it decides which address to choose.

Thanks, Bonnie





Jaws silent on returning to desktop

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Hi,

Using W10 Home with all updates and Jaws 2018.

 

Upon pressing alt F4 to exit a programme and return to the Desktop,Jaws seems not to be able to gain Desktop focus and goes silent.  It requires Windows d to be pressed before normal Desktop speech is regained.  Jaws has been doing this for the past week or so.

 

Does anybody know how Jaws can be made to speak the highlighted Desktop icon upon returning to the Desktop? i.e. Without having to press Windows d.

 

Thanks

Tom

 

 

   


Re: I've never done a jaws upgrade before

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi,
 
If you install J18, it won't install over J17, it installs an entirely new version of Jaws on your computer.  So, you'll have both J17 & J18 on your computer, but that's just fine, most Jaws users have more than  1 version of Jaws installed on their computers.  Personally I have J16 thru J2018, + NVDA latest installed on all my computers.
 
You can set Jaws to alert you when updates are available if you want.  I always poast direct download links to the latest Jaws updates + what's new with the latest update to this, & a few other lists'.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 7:08 PM
Subject: I've never done a jaws upgrade before


--
  from, mack  have jaws 17 if I do an upgrade to the next update of jaws 18, do I just install it over version 17. I know this will take away one of my s m a's. when the next update comes out in December, and I open jaws, will I get a prompt to update, thanks



Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Owais,

No, fortunately this doesn't seem to happen in Windows 10 and Excel 2016.

Cheers,

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Owais
Patel
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

Will this happen with Excel 2016 in Windows 10.
Sincerely,
Owais

On Nov 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am having problems with Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 and earlier
versions too. We switched to Office 365 here at work last June, and
all worked fine, but now, Jaws isn't able to track in Excel 2016. If I
open a blank spreadsheet, Jaws will say "Book 1, Sheet 1, A1". If I
press the right arrow key, Jaws will sometimes say "B1" as it ought
to, but after that, Jaws is silent when pressing any arrow key.
Nothing at all is read by Jaws. If I press the alt key twice to bring
up the ribbon and then close it, Jaws might then read the contents of
the cell I am in, but will go silent again after that.

I am running the 1710 build of Office 365, and our channel is
"Monthly". I'm hoping the next update to Office 365 will fix this
issue, but I have no reason to think that it will.

I am running Windows 7 Enterprise on a Lenovo Desktop machine here at
work.

I called VFO tech support, and at that time I was running the 1703
build of Office 365 with the "deferred" channel. I was told that
updating to the 1709 or 1710 builds of Office 365 would fix the issue,
but it hasn't.

I called the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk, and their solution was
to run a Jaws repair, but I've completely uninstalled Jaws and
re-installed, so I don't think running a repair will help, and, when I
try to run a repair on Jaws 2018, the repair gets to 4% and then
stalls there and finally fails.

Any ideas out there would be greatly appreciated! This is so frustrating.

Oh, and, of course, NVDA does work well with Excel 2016 with none of
these issues. I would switch to NVDA permanently except that NVDA
crashes our proprietary database that I use on a daily basis.

Thanks all.

Russell



Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Yes, great idea! I'll definitely contact Microsoft accessibility.

Cheers,

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

It might not help much, but it won't hurt to let Microsoft Accessibility know this, if they hear it from several users it might be bet ter.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

Hi Sieghard,

Thanks for your response. Well, I completely uninstalled Office 365 from my machine, and then re-installed it from the Microsoft Office
365 website. I chose the 64 bit version, as that's what my co-worker was running. So, instead of the 1710 Monthly Channel, I am back to running the 1705 Deferred Channel. I am now able to navigate a spreadsheet with no problems, however, I am now back to having the same issue you are having with Excel crashing when typing a formula into a cell. This is the issue I was experiencing that caused me to install the 1710 32 bit version, which is when I began experiencing not being able to navigate at all in a spreadsheet. So, back to where I started from. I, like you, now type a formula without the = (equals) sign, and then press CTRL + F2 to edit the cell and add the = sign in front of the formula. A bit of a pain, but at least I'm able to use Excel once again.

BTW: Excel also crashes when typing a formula into a cell while running NVDA, so this issue isn't strictly a Jaws issue. It is, however, a screen reader issue as my co-worker can type a formula into a cell with no crashing with all screen readers turned off.

Hope this issue is resolved soon.

Good luck.

Russell

On 11/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
Hello Russell,

I use Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit via the Office 365 Business
Premium plan.
I had major issues with Excel back at the end of August, but even then
Jaws
18 would read everything, but as soon as I tried to type anything into
a cell Excel would crash completely.
I then got on the Jaws 2018 private beta program hoping Jaws 2018
would solve the issue, but it didn't. A week or 10 days later there
was an Office update and that fixed the issue.
Now I have still one problem which happens with Windows 7 but not with
my Windows 10 laptop. I can type into a cell, but if I start a formula
with an equals sign Excel crashes. The work-around is to type the
formula without the equals sign, for example, sum(a1:a10) and press
enter. This just puts the text into the cell, if I then go back and
edit with F2 I can put the equals sign in front of the "sum" and press tab or enter and it works.
This happens both with Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018, I am also on the Office
Insiders monthly channel by the way.
I have, however, absolutely 0 issues moving around in any worksheet. I
assume it is some peculiarity with your system since I have not heard
others having these issues. I use Excel on 3 different Windows 7 PC's
at my store as well as on 2 Windows 10 laptops.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Owais Patel
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

Will this happen with Excel 2016 in Windows 10.
Sincerely,
Owais

On Nov 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk
<rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am having problems with Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 and earlier
versions too. We switched to Office 365 here at work last June, and
all worked fine, but now, Jaws isn't able to track in Excel 2016. If
I open a blank spreadsheet, Jaws will say "Book 1, Sheet 1, A1". If I
press the right arrow key, Jaws will sometimes say "B1" as it ought
to, but after that, Jaws is silent when pressing any arrow key.
Nothing at all is read by Jaws. If I press the alt key twice to bring
up the ribbon and then close it, Jaws might then read the contents of
the cell I am in, but will go silent again after that.

I am running the 1710 build of Office 365, and our channel is
"Monthly". I'm hoping the next update to Office 365 will fix this
issue, but I have no reason to think that it will.

I am running Windows 7 Enterprise on a Lenovo Desktop machine here at
work.

I called VFO tech support, and at that time I was running the 1703
build of Office 365 with the "deferred" channel. I was told that
updating to the 1709 or 1710 builds of Office 365 would fix the
issue, but it hasn't.

I called the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk, and their solution was
to run a Jaws repair, but I've completely uninstalled Jaws and
re-installed, so I don't think running a repair will help, and, when
I try to run a repair on Jaws 2018, the repair gets to 4% and then
stalls there and finally fails.

Any ideas out there would be greatly appreciated! This is so frustrating.

Oh, and, of course, NVDA does work well with Excel 2016 with none of
these issues. I would switch to NVDA permanently except that NVDA
crashes our proprietary database that I use on a daily basis.

Thanks all.

Russell








Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Yes, as Sieghard said, I tried it with NVDA, and Excel crashes when typing a formula with NVDA as well.

Cheers,

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

My bad...
Out of curiosity, have you tried entering the = sign with Jaws silenced (insert+spacebar+s)? Not that that would be a real efficient workaround, but just a thought.
Does it also happen with NVDA? Jaws specific or something screen reader in general I wonder.
Using the stand alone Office 2016. Going to have to see if this occurs with my set up. Off-hand, can't recall excel crashing on me in this way.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

Interesting idea, but it also crashes Excel and in fact it messed things up so bad that I had to restart my computer whereas just typing the equals sign (something I still do accidently) just crashes Excel and then it just restarts after 10 seconds or so.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

How about punching in the ascii code for the = sign (alt+61)?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

Good thought and one I tried, but even after I type "sum" and then delete it by backspacing, Excel still crashes as soon as I type the equals sign.
Maybe, but it still crashes unless I put that equals sign in last.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

Sieghard, regarding your issue, couldn't you just press a letter first, press backspace, type an equal sign followed by the formula, and press enter? I'd imagine this way is less tedious, no?



-------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@live.ca]
Sent: Monday, Nov 27, 2017 2:14 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

Hello Russell,

I use Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit via the Office 365 Business Premium plan.
I had major issues with Excel back at the end of August, but even then Jaws 18 would read everything, but as soon as I tried to type anything into a cell Excel would crash completely.
I then got on the Jaws 2018 private beta program hoping Jaws 2018 would solve the issue, but it didn't. A week or 10 days later there was an Office update and that fixed the issue.
Now I have still one problem which happens with Windows 7 but not with my Windows 10 laptop. I can type into a cell, but if I start a formula with an equals sign Excel crashes. The work-around is to type the formula without the equals sign, for example, sum(a1:a10) and press enter. This just puts the text into the cell, if I then go back and edit with F2 I can put the equals sign in front of the "sum" and press tab or enter and it works.
This happens both with Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018, I am also on the Office Insiders monthly channel by the way.
I have, however, absolutely 0 issues moving around in any worksheet. I assume it is some peculiarity with your system since I have not heard others having these issues. I use Excel on 3 different Windows 7 PC's at my store as well as on 2 Windows 10 laptops.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Owais Patel
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 as part of Office 365 issues

Will this happen with Excel 2016 in Windows 10.
Sincerely,
Owais

On Nov 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am having problems with Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 and earlier versions too. We switched to Office 365 here at work last June, and all worked fine, but now, Jaws isn't able to track in Excel 2016. If I open a blank spreadsheet, Jaws will say "Book 1, Sheet 1, A1". If I press the right arrow key, Jaws will sometimes say "B1" as it ought to, but after that, Jaws is silent when pressing any arrow key.
Nothing at all is read by Jaws. If I press the alt key twice to bring up the ribbon and then close it, Jaws might then read the contents of the cell I am in, but will go silent again after that.

I am running the 1710 build of Office 365, and our channel is "Monthly". I'm hoping the next update to Office 365 will fix this issue, but I have no reason to think that it will.

I am running Windows 7 Enterprise on a Lenovo Desktop machine here at work.

I called VFO tech support, and at that time I was running the 1703 build of Office 365 with the "deferred" channel. I was told that updating to the 1709 or 1710 builds of Office 365 would fix the issue, but it hasn't.

I called the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk, and their solution was to run a Jaws repair, but I've completely uninstalled Jaws and re-installed, so I don't think running a repair will help, and, when I try to run a repair on Jaws 2018, the repair gets to 4% and then stalls there and finally fails.

Any ideas out there would be greatly appreciated! This is so frustrating.

Oh, and, of course, NVDA does work well with Excel 2016 with none of these issues. I would switch to NVDA permanently except that NVDA crashes our proprietary database that I use on a daily basis.

Thanks all.

Russell









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I've never done a jaws upgrade before

mcLeod stinnett
 

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from, mack have jaws 17 if I do an upgrade to the next update of jaws 18, do I just install it over version 17. I know this will take away one of my s m a's. when the next update comes out in December, and I open jaws, will I get a prompt to update, thanks


Re: Trouble with entering addresses in outlook 2016

Bonnie Vegiard
 

Sorry, I had to finish my last email in a bit of a hurry. Thanks so much for this! Explanation. The problem is that it is no longer allowing me to choose the email it auto fills, it’s picking on its own. It’s clear that some setting somewhere has changed. It’s picking an email and then picking a second and third email when I continue to try to type the email that I want. It’s extremely frustrating. I am up to the current release of jaws, and I’m thinking that somewhere some setting got accidentally shifted. I don’t know why else the behavior would have suddenly changed. I will try to look at the Settings box that you mentioned, but I do want it to auto fill, I just want to have some control over what it auto fills.

I guess no one else is having this problem, though. So it’s something about my settings.


Thanks, Bonnie

On Nov 27, 2017, at 11:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

This has always been this way except that for a while the auto-complete function was broken and Jaws didn't read the suggestions which popped up as you type.
Personally I find this extremely convenient because for the most part I just have to type the first few letters of an email and the rest is automatically filled or I can type a few letters and then down arrow to find the one I want.
But, if I have an email which starts with "john" and I have 5 emails in my auto complete which start with John then I just keep typing and ignore the suggestions and as soon as you type the first letter that is different than all the addresses your auto-complete remembers it will stop.
What version of Jaws are you using? In 2018 the behaviour has changed a bit in that it now only reads the first suggestion when you type 2 or 3 letters, after that it stops and you have to actually down arrow to hear the rest.
Of course if you really hate this you can turn this off by going to File > Options, then go to the "Mail" tab/category (most likely you have to down arrow once) and now you have to either tab I think 36 times or back tab (shift+tab) 23 times to get to the following item:

Use Auto-Complete List to suggest names when typing in the To, Cc, and Bcc lines check box checked
ALT+g

Press the spacebar to uncheck this and, for good measure, tab once more to the buttonv "Empty Auto Complete List" and press the spacebar to activate it which will clear out your list of auto complete suggestions.
OK, now that I told you how to do it the long way (it's a good idea to tab through all these options to see what's there), here is the easy way which means the keyboard shortcut:
Alt+F followed by T opens Options.
Find the Mail tab/category by using down arrow (or up arrow), it's the second from the top after "General".
Press Alt+G and this will uncheck the " Use Auto-Complete List to suggest names when typing in the To, Cc, and Bcc lines" check box.
Now tab once more to the "Empty 'Auto Complete List" and activate it, then don't forget to tab about 22 times to "OK" and activate it, if you don't the setting won't stick.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Trouble with entering addresses in outlook 2016

Hello, I started having this problem probably a month or maybe two months ago. I actually don’t use Outlook all that often, as usually are use my phone. However, when I am in Outlook and try to enter an email address, The program takes the first letter I typed in and picks up the very first email address that matches and insert it, even before I can type a second letter. Then it takes the second letter and vines that email address and inserts that. Needless to say, this does not work at all for me getting the correct address into my address line. I don’t know why it has changed, or why it is so difficult to type in an address that I want. I don’t want to have to go to my address book every time I want to put in addresses, as I don’t actually keep my address book in outlook, so it is kind of a pain to get to. Does anyone have a fix for this? I just wanted to let me type in the whole word before it decides which address to choose.

Thanks, Bonnie