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Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi Carol,

What do you do that requires Windows 10 Pro, just curious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

HaHaHaHa!! Yes, I am going to tell. I just finished looking at one and am almost considering it. It is a Dell xsp. Here are some of the specs:

I-7 quad core, 3.2
16 g ram
2 t hard drive (I want an SSD)
Win10 home, I want Pro
1 DVD/CD drive (doesn't say plus or minus) a wired keyboard and laser mouse does not come with Office It has an HDMI port, BlueTooth WiFi, 2 USB2 ports, and the rest of the ports are USB 3, 3-c and 3-1, totaling 12 ports. There is one SD slot which will handle SD, SDHC and SDXC.
Graphic CardNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti

OK, folks, there you have it. Price right now (Black Friday) $999 + $15 shipping and Indiana sales tax. So, that means I also need to buy the SSD and Office. There is no monitor, but I should be able to plug in my old VGA. Thanks to all that made suggestions.

Carol


On 11/25/2017 7:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Now after all that you won't tell us what you decided to get so a
dozen of us on the list can tell you why you should and why you
shouldn't get that particular PC *smile*


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Thank you. I think I have made my decision. Now, I need to start working on where I will get it.

Carol

On 11/25/2017 2:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I have some 480 Gb SSD's and have quite a bit of stuff on there and I don't notice a major slow-down.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I have one last question about the SSD. If I start getting lots of files on the SSD, will it slow down in performance? If this is the case, shouldn't I get a smaller SSD and only keep those files that must reside there and place everthing else on a secondary or external drive?
Thank you for your help.

Carol



On 11/24/2017 8:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
With email you typically don't have a choice or at least it's much more difficult to store your Outlook.pst file (if Outlook is what you use) on a different drive than the default used by Outlook.
Other stuff like documents and especially music files and pictures and videos you should have on a different drive. It really depends on how much data you have and how large of an SSD you buy, if you have a 480 Gb or 512 Gb SSD and you only have 100 or 200 Gb of stuff then you might as well have it on the SSD.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject than I have ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol


On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that
will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or
should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I
neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be the
best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells
for the last two computers and am wondering if something else
would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some
wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new
one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I
know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a
decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh
yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol












Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

HaHaHaHa!! Yes, I am going to tell. I just finished looking at one and am almost considering it. It is a Dell xsp. Here are some of the specs:

I-7 quad core, 3.2
16 g ram
2 t hard drive (I want an SSD)
Win10 home, I want Pro
1 DVD/CD drive (doesn't say plus or minus)
a wired keyboard and laser mouse
does not come with Office
It has an HDMI port, BlueTooth WiFi, 2 USB2 ports, and the rest of the ports are USB 3, 3-c and 3-1, totaling 12 ports. There is one SD slot which will handle SD, SDHC and SDXC.
Graphic CardNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti

OK, folks, there you have it. Price right now (Black Friday) $999 + $15 shipping and Indiana sales tax. So, that means I also need to buy the SSD and Office. There is no monitor, but I should be able to plug in my old VGA. Thanks to all that made suggestions.

Carol

On 11/25/2017 7:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Now after all that you won't tell us what you decided to get so a dozen of us on the list can tell you why you should and why you shouldn't get that particular PC *smile*


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Thank you. I think I have made my decision. Now, I need to start working on where I will get it.

Carol

On 11/25/2017 2:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I have some 480 Gb SSD's and have quite a bit of stuff on there and I don't notice a major slow-down.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I have one last question about the SSD. If I start getting lots of files on the SSD, will it slow down in performance? If this is the case, shouldn't I get a smaller SSD and only keep those files that must reside there and place everthing else on a secondary or external drive?
Thank you for your help.

Carol



On 11/24/2017 8:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
With email you typically don't have a choice or at least it's much more difficult to store your Outlook.pst file (if Outlook is what you use) on a different drive than the default used by Outlook.
Other stuff like documents and especially music files and pictures and videos you should have on a different drive. It really depends on how much data you have and how large of an SSD you buy, if you have a 480 Gb or 512 Gb SSD and you only have 100 or 200 Gb of stuff then you might as well have it on the SSD.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject than I have ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol


On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that
will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or
should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I
neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be the
best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells
for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would
be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some
wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new
one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I
know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a
decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh
yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol











Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Pat Byrne
 

Sieghard,
i think that was part of Carol's wise decision!
pat ByrneAt 06:04 PM 11/25/2017, you wrote:

Now after all that you won't tell us what you decided to get so a dozen of us on the list can tell you why you should and why you shouldn't get that particular PC *smile*


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Thank you. I think I have made my decision. Now, I need to start working on where I will get it.

Carol

On 11/25/2017 2:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I have some 480 Gb SSD's and have quite a bit of stuff on there
and I don't notice a major slow-down.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I have one last question about the SSD. If I start getting lots
of files on the SSD, will it slow down in performance? If this is the case, shouldn't I get a smaller SSD and only keep those files that must reside there and place everthing else on a secondary or external drive?
Thank you for your help.

Carol



On 11/24/2017 8:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
With email you typically don't have a choice or at least it's
much more difficult to store your Outlook.pst file (if Outlook is what you use) on a different drive than the default used by Outlook.
Other stuff like documents and especially music files and
pictures and videos you should have on a different drive. It really depends on how much data you have and how large of an SSD you buy, if you have a 480 Gb or 512 Gb SSD and you only have 100 or 200 Gb of stuff then you might as well have it on the SSD.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject
than I have ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol


On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others
have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard
drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but
the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's,
these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest
I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD
is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that
will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or
should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I
neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be the
best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells
for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would
be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10
system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some
wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new
one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I
know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a
decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh
yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol














Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Now after all that you won't tell us what you decided to get so a dozen of us on the list can tell you why you should and why you shouldn't get that particular PC *smile*

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Thank you. I think I have made my decision. Now, I need to start working on where I will get it.

Carol

On 11/25/2017 2:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I have some 480 Gb SSD's and have quite a bit of stuff on there and I don't notice a major slow-down.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I have one last question about the SSD. If I start getting lots of files on the SSD, will it slow down in performance? If this is the case, shouldn't I get a smaller SSD and only keep those files that must reside there and place everthing else on a secondary or external drive?
Thank you for your help.

Carol



On 11/24/2017 8:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
With email you typically don't have a choice or at least it's much more difficult to store your Outlook.pst file (if Outlook is what you use) on a different drive than the default used by Outlook.
Other stuff like documents and especially music files and pictures and videos you should have on a different drive. It really depends on how much data you have and how large of an SSD you buy, if you have a 480 Gb or 512 Gb SSD and you only have 100 or 200 Gb of stuff then you might as well have it on the SSD.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject than I have ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol


On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that
will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or
should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I
neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be the
best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells
for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would
be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some
wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new
one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I
know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a
decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh
yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol










decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Thank you. I think I have made my decision. Now, I need to start working on where I will get it.

Carol

On 11/25/2017 2:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I have some 480 Gb SSD's and have quite a bit of stuff on there and I don't notice a major slow-down.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I have one last question about the SSD. If I start getting lots of files on the SSD, will it slow down in performance? If this is the case, shouldn't I get a smaller SSD and only keep those files that must reside there and place everthing else on a secondary or external drive?
Thank you for your help.

Carol



On 11/24/2017 8:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
With email you typically don't have a choice or at least it's much more difficult to store your Outlook.pst file (if Outlook is what you use) on a different drive than the default used by Outlook.
Other stuff like documents and especially music files and pictures and videos you should have on a different drive. It really depends on how much data you have and how large of an SSD you buy, if you have a 480 Gb or 512 Gb SSD and you only have 100 or 200 Gb of stuff then you might as well have it on the SSD.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject than I have ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol


On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will
meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I
get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how
large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I
know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two
computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I
have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some
wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new
one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I
know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a
decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh
yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol









Re: doc files

Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
 

I'm sorry, I should have wrote back to the list after trying
myself. NVDA didn't like it, NVDA just carried on with gibberish. I hit control key to shut it up and closed it down. Thanks for the response.
11/25/2017 3:12 PM, Mike B. wrote:

*Hi Brice,*
**
*No, HJ Pad will not read a .DOC file.  I just tried to read a simple DOC file, & HJ would not read a single letter.*
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brice Mijares <mailto:bricemijares@att.net>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 25, 2017 12:58 PM
*Subject:* doc files
will HJ pad read doc files? Thanks in advance.


Re: doc files

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Brice,
 
No, HJ Pad will not read a .DOC file.  I just tried to read a simple DOC file, & HJ would not read a single letter.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 12:58 PM
Subject: doc files

will HJ pad read doc files? Thanks in advance.



Re: how to convert many epub files to rtf?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Codex is made for the blind and is fully accessible and very easy.
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 11:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to convert many epub files to rtf?

Calibre is accessible enough (though somewhat painful).

On 11/25/17, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,
Install Codex, ignore for now what it says about converting Kindle books to
ePub, which is a great use for it.
But, if you have Codex installed, and bring up the context menu when focused
on an ePub file, one of the conversion options is RTF.
Here is the link:
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjscholes.net%2Fhow-to-remove-drm-from-kindle-books-with-codex-2%2F&data=02%7C01%7Crichardturner42%40outlook.com%7C1aba2cea0eff4f94464108d5343c13b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636472354981984945&sdata=10AMmdByvY%2Fpp3J2%2FBID1%2BSTXrhVIp6YaGVmk9HimTU%3D&reserved=0

HTH,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of helmuth
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: how to convert many epub files to rtf?

Hi together,

I have just received a bunch of ebooks in epub format. How to convert
them into rtf or word to read them on my brailledisplay? They are not
encrypted. I heard about calibre, but heard it was not accessible.

I am using jaws 2018 on win10.

Thanks in advance, Helmuth








--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


doc files

Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
 

will HJ pad read doc files? Thanks in advance.


Re: how to convert many epub files to rtf?

helmuth
 

Thanks a lot, codex helped me out as it keeps the folder structure. Best regards


Am 25.11.2017 um 20:38 schrieb Soronel Haetir:

Calibre is accessible enough (though somewhat painful).

On 11/25/17, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,
Install Codex, ignore for now what it says about converting Kindle books to
ePub, which is a great use for it.
But, if you have Codex installed, and bring up the context menu when focused
on an ePub file, one of the conversion options is RTF.
Here is the link:
http://jscholes.net/how-to-remove-drm-from-kindle-books-with-codex-2/

HTH,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of helmuth
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: how to convert many epub files to rtf?

Hi together,

I have just received a bunch of ebooks in epub format. How to convert
them into rtf or word to read them on my brailledisplay? They are not
encrypted. I heard about calibre, but heard it was not accessible.

I am using jaws 2018 on win10.

Thanks in advance, Helmuth








Re: how to convert many epub files to rtf?

Soronel Haetir
 

Calibre is accessible enough (though somewhat painful).

On 11/25/17, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,
Install Codex, ignore for now what it says about converting Kindle books to
ePub, which is a great use for it.
But, if you have Codex installed, and bring up the context menu when focused
on an ePub file, one of the conversion options is RTF.
Here is the link:
http://jscholes.net/how-to-remove-drm-from-kindle-books-with-codex-2/

HTH,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of helmuth
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: how to convert many epub files to rtf?

Hi together,

I have just received a bunch of ebooks in epub format. How to convert
them into rtf or word to read them on my brailledisplay? They are not
encrypted. I heard about calibre, but heard it was not accessible.

I am using jaws 2018 on win10.

Thanks in advance, Helmuth







--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: need recommendation for new PC

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I have some 480 Gb SSD's and have quite a bit of stuff on there and I don't notice a major slow-down.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I have one last question about the SSD. If I start getting lots of files on the SSD, will it slow down in performance? If this is the case, shouldn't I get a smaller SSD and only keep those files that must reside there and place everthing else on a secondary or external drive?
Thank you for your help.

Carol



On 11/24/2017 8:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
With email you typically don't have a choice or at least it's much more difficult to store your Outlook.pst file (if Outlook is what you use) on a different drive than the default used by Outlook.
Other stuff like documents and especially music files and pictures and videos you should have on a different drive. It really depends on how much data you have and how large of an SSD you buy, if you have a 480 Gb or 512 Gb SSD and you only have 100 or 200 Gb of stuff then you might as well have it on the SSD.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject than I have ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol


On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will
meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I
get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how
large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I
know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two
computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I
have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some
wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new
one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I
know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a
decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh
yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol







Re: how to convert many epub files to rtf?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Hi,
Install Codex, ignore for now what it says about converting Kindle books to ePub, which is a great use for it.
But, if you have Codex installed, and bring up the context menu when focused on an ePub file, one of the conversion options is RTF.
Here is the link:
http://jscholes.net/how-to-remove-drm-from-kindle-books-with-codex-2/

HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of helmuth
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: how to convert many epub files to rtf?

Hi together,

I have just received a bunch of ebooks in epub format. How to convert
them into rtf or word to read them on my brailledisplay? They are not
encrypted. I heard about calibre, but heard it was not accessible.

I am using jaws 2018 on win10.

Thanks in advance, Helmuth


how to convert many epub files to rtf?

helmuth
 

Hi together,

I have just received a bunch of ebooks in epub format. How to convert them into rtf or word to read them on my brailledisplay? They are not encrypted. I heard about calibre, but heard it was not accessible.

I am using jaws 2018 on win10.

Thanks in advance, Helmuth


Re: need recommendation for new PC

Kelly Pierce
 

Carol,

SSD drives do not slow down with more data stored on them like
rotating disc drives. With disc drives, data is scattered among
multiple platters in various physical places on the drive. The drive
head needs to travel to the various physical places on the different
platters to access different files on the disc. The fuller the disc,
the greater distance the drive head needs to travel. On an SSD drive,
data can be accessed anywhere electronically without any moving parts.
Most notebooks only have SSD drives today. As Sieghard said, just put
your audio files and things that you rarely access on an external hard
disc drive. I have tens of thousands of audio tracks and they sit on
a two terabyte disc drive for when I want them. I must say though
that I have all my Bookshare books on my SSD drive and backed up to
both OneDrive and my hard disc. The same is true for my audio books
from the library.

If a computer is at the center of your life for information access,
then definitely get an i7. I am often creating documents or audio
files with more than 20 windows open, bringing data from each to
create a final product. If Carol is the kind of person who wants a
secondary computer or just sits on her rump and Web surfs, then an i5
could work easily. The issue is not what Carol needs but what Carol
wants, the efficiency desired and the ease of use obtained. I lived
with Windows XP until December 2013 because I did not like Windows 7
and wanted the instant startup with Windows 8.

Kelly

On 11/25/17, Carol Smith via Groups.Io <carollablady=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Sieghard,

I have one last question about the SSD. If I start getting lots of
files on the SSD, will it slow down in performance? If this is the
case, shouldn't I get a smaller SSD and only keep those files that must
reside there and place everthing else on a secondary or external drive?
Thank you for your help.

Carol



On 11/24/2017 8:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
With email you typically don't have a choice or at least it's much more
difficult to store your Outlook.pst file (if Outlook is what you use) on a
different drive than the default used by Outlook.
Other stuff like documents and especially music files and pictures and
videos you should have on a different drive. It really depends on how much
data you have and how large of an SSD you buy, if you have a 480 Gb or 512
Gb SSD and you only have 100 or 200 Gb of stuff then you might as well
have it on the SSD.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol
Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject than I have
ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it
best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a
different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to
drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files
to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol


On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have
pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's
believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my
store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price
difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and
an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with
SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if
you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go
with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3
external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb
ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then
a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need
to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are
not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5
processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good
for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00
AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will
meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I
get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how
large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know
this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two
computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have
Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd
stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before
this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I
know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent
laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I
would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol










Re: Jaws & jpg files

Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
 

Please explain how you go about setting up Dropbox or OneDrive . Thanks.

On 11/25/2017 1:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Most of use use Dropbox or OneDrive so why monkey around with taking a screenshot, pasting it into Paint and then saving it.
If you set up Dropbox or OneDrive simply pressing the Printscreen button will take the screenshot and save it as a PNG file into the Screenshots folder in Dropbox or OneDrive.
I just tested this also and right clicking on any of these PNG files and selecting Recognize with Jaws worked just fine, as far as I know Jaws 2018 can do OCR on most image files, they don’t have to be PDF or JPeg.
Regards,
Sieghard
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Feliciano G
*Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2017 5:00 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Jaws & jpg files
Al,
I just tested this for you. I took a screenshot and saved it as a.JPEg and saved it on my desktop.
I then located it and hit the application key then activated recognize with JAWS. Then it brought up a window with the OCR results. Not sure why it is not working for you as I had no problems. I suggest you do a jaws repair.
Feliciano
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Alan Robbins
*Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2017 4:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Jaws & jpg files
Hello,
Just tried the new feature where jaws is supposed to read jpg files? I used to do this with open book but just tried with latest version of JAWS 2018 to no avail. Here is what I did.
Went to a jpg file (picture of a receipt) and when cursor had focus on the file I hit application key and selected “recognize with jaws.  It doesn’t seem to do anything. Is there something else I need to do? I remember in the beta testing with first version I could not get this to work and reported it to VFO. Have not tried since but still does not work. Am I needing to do another step? Are others able to complete this ok
Al


Re: Jaws & jpg files

Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
 

Once you hit the print screen, it's copied to the clipboard. So, it has to be pasted into something.

On 11/25/2017 4:24 AM, Alan Robbins wrote:
Sieghard,
Thought I had this setup in drop box as I have a folder for screen shots. However, when I push the print screen button nothing happens and no file is put in that folder. Is there another key that needs to be pressed with the print screen button?
Best,
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:03 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Jaws & jpg files
Most of use use Dropbox or OneDrive so why monkey around with taking a screenshot, pasting it into Paint and then saving it.
If you set up Dropbox or OneDrive simply pressing the Printscreen button will take the screenshot and save it as a PNG file into the Screenshots folder in Dropbox or OneDrive.
I just tested this also and right clicking on any of these PNG files and selecting Recognize with Jaws worked just fine, as far as I know Jaws 2018 can do OCR on most image files, they don’t have to be PDF or JPeg.
Regards,
Sieghard
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Feliciano G
*Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2017 5:00 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Jaws & jpg files
Al,
I just tested this for you. I took a screenshot and saved it as a.JPEg and saved it on my desktop.
I then located it and hit the application key then activated recognize with JAWS. Then it brought up a window with the OCR results. Not sure why it is not working for you as I had no problems. I suggest you do a jaws repair.
Feliciano
For Tech Tips and updates
Follow: www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
Like www.facebook.com/theblindman12v <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Alan Robbins
*Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2017 4:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Jaws & jpg files
Hello,
Just tried the new feature where jaws is supposed to read jpg files? I used to do this with open book but just tried with latest version of JAWS 2018 to no avail. Here is what I did.
Went to a jpg file (picture of a receipt) and when cursor had focus on the file I hit application key and selected “recognize with jaws.  It doesn’t seem to do anything. Is there something else I need to do? I remember in the beta testing with first version I could not get this to work and reported it to VFO. Have not tried since but still does not work. Am I needing to do another step? Are others able to complete this ok
Al


Re: Chrome shortcut keys was: RE: Unending problems with firefox

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Thanks Richard for sending me the keystrokes for google chrome.
I am indeed very grateful.
Thanks and kind regards.
Ibrahim.

On 11/25/17, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
The following list came from:
https://www.computerhope.com/shortcut/chrome.htm

Google Chrome shortcut keys
Updated: 10/19/2017 by Computer Hope
ChromeBelow is a listing of all the major shortcut keys used with the Google
Chrome Internet browser. See the computer shortcuts page if you are looking
for other shortcut keys used in other programs.
Tip: We also have a full list of shortcuts specific to Chromebooks on our
Chromebook shortcut keys page.
Shortcut Keys Description
Alt+Home Open your homepage.
Alt+Tab Toggle between browser windows
Alt+Left Arrow Back a page.
Alt+Right Arrow Forward a page.
F11 Display the current website in full-screen mode. Pressing F11 again will
exit this mode.
Esc Stop page or download from loading.
Ctrl+(- or +) Zoom in our out of a page '-' will decrease and '+' will
increase. Ctrl+0 will reset back to default.
Ctrl+1-8 Pressing Ctrl and any number 1 through 8 will move to the
corresponding tab in your tab bar.
Ctrl+9 Switch to last tab.
Ctrl+0 Reset browser zoom to default
Ctrl+Enter Quickly complete an address. For example, type computerhope in
the address bar and press Ctrl+Enter to get https://www.computerhope.com.
Ctrl+Shift+Del Open the Clear Data window to quickly clear private data.
Ctrl+Shift+B Toggle the bookmarks bar between hidden and shown
Ctrl+A Select everything on a page
Ctrl+D Add a bookmark for the page currently opened.
Ctrl+F Open the "find" bar to search text on the current page
Ctrl+O Open a file in the browser
Ctrl+Shift+O Open the Bookmark manager.
Ctrl+H Open history in a new tab
Ctrl+J Display the downloads window
Ctrl+K or Ctrl+E Moves your text cursor to the omnibox so that you can begin
typing your search query and perform a Google search.
Ctrl+L Move the cursor to the browser address bar and highlight everything
in it.
Ctrl+N Open New browser window.
Ctrl+Shift+N Open a new window in incognito (private) mode.
Ctrl+P Print current page or frame.
Ctrl+R or F5 Refresh the current page or frame.
Ctrl+S Saves the current page
Ctrl+T Opens a new tab.
Ctrl+U View a web page's source code
Ctrl+W Closes the currently selected tab.
Ctrl+Shift+W Closes the currently selected window.
Ctrl+Shift+T Reopens the last tab you've closed. If you've closed multiple
tabs you can press this shortcut key multiple times to restore each of the
closed tabs.
Ctrl+Tab Moves through each of the open tabs going to the right.
Ctrl+Shift+Tab Moves through each of the open tabs going to the left.
Ctrl+Left-click Open the link in a new tab in the background
Ctrl+Shift Left-click Open the link in a new tab and switch to the new tab
Ctrl+Page Down Open the browser tab to the right
Ctrl+Page Up Open the browser tab to the left
Spacebar Moves down a page at a time.
Shift+Spacebar Moves up a page at a time.
Home Go to top of page
End Go to bottom of page
Alt+Down Arrow Display all previous text entered in a text box and available
options on a drop-down menu.


T

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ibrahim
Ajayi
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 5:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unending problems with firefox

Thanks Mike for reminding me about google chrome. I've had it on my
computer for years now, and I seldom use it. Firefox has for years
been very convenient and fast for me. But it is now no longer usable.
I just want to get some help from you on the use of chrome.
Do you know the keystrokes shortcuts for chrome? the keystrok for
opening bookmarks, adding a page or bookmarking a page, deleting a
book mark, and so on.
When I activate the bookmark button, I have to scroll up to impor from
firefox in order to be able to access the bookmarks. Is there a
shortcut? what about history, and the others.
I imported bookmarks from firefox in to chrome some weeks ago.
If you can, please give me a brief tutorial on how to use chrome, or
refer me to a web page where I can get this information.
Thaks and kind regards.
Ibrahim.

On 11/25/17, Mike Rogers <harpman9@gmail.com> wrote:
I've used Firefox for years, but find that Google Chrome works really
well
with Jaws 18 and 2018. I no longer bother with Firefox.

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On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 08:28:16 +0100
"Ibrahim Ajayi" <kobisko@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello again:
Firefox, is still not working with JAWS, even with the extended
support release. I downloaded and installed the ESR52.5 program, and
it is running.
But when I open firefox, I get this message:
"Display of tab content is disabled due to incompatibility with your
screen reader. Please update your screenreader, or switch to firefox
extended support release".
Does anyone have this problem even after installing ESR, how did you
get around it.
Or is there is fix for this new probllem created by firefox.
I did refresh firefox as suggested in the firefox help, but nothing
changed. In fact, I've now lost all my bookmarks.
Any help?
Ibrahim in Nigeria.










Re: Jaws error

Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...>
 

Thank you Mike

Yes I did and they will get back to me after a few days because after they tandum with me for 2 days, they couldn’t figure it out.

Thanks

Sugar

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws error

 

Hi Sugar,

 

I would call VFO back & ask them why that error message keeps popping up.  Tha shouldn't be happening.

Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:42 PM

Subject: Jaws error

 

Hi all

I just had VFO installed Jaws 17 from jaws 14

All is cool and I am doing well, however when I log on or reboot or restart, the following messeage pops up but in no way does it get in the way of what I do on my computer.

I still am able to work e mails and everything else.

We have uninstalled jaws, reinstalled it, repaired it but it still pops up.

 

I currently use

Windows 7

Microsoftoffice/outlook 2010

Del desk top,64machine

Does anyone know of this?

 

jfw.exe - System Error

Sugar

 

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Re: Unending problems with firefox

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

For those who think they installed the ESR version but still cannot use Firefox, make sure when you run the install file, you get "Update" as an option. Double check the Help, About after installation to be sure you have 52.5 ESR 32 bit. At least, some on this list, have said run the 32 bit version even if you have a 64 bit machine as it works better with Jaws, apparently.
Here is the 32 bit link for US English:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest-ssl&os=win&lang=en-US

For all other languages and versions of the ESR, go to:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of cecropia64
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 7:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unending problems with firefox

Hi:


I';m having the same issue but I haven't upgraded to Jaws 2018 yet.  In
the mean time, I'm using both Internet explorer and NVDA if you want to
use Firefox.  IE still works well with Jaws and NVDA is working well
with Firefox for now.  Just a little fix to consider.


Stew


On 11/25/2017 2:28 AM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hello again:
Firefox, is still not working with JAWS, even with the extended
support release. I downloaded and installed the ESR52.5 program, and
it is running.
But when I open firefox, I get this message:
"Display of tab content is disabled due to incompatibility with your
screen reader. Please update your screenreader, or switch to firefox
extended support release".
Does anyone have this problem even after installing ESR, how did you
get around it.
Or is there is fix for this new probllem created by firefox.
I did refresh firefox as suggested in the firefox help, but nothing
changed. In fact, I've now lost all my bookmarks.
Any help?
Ibrahim in Nigeria.