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Re: need recommendation for new PC

 

With email you typically don't have a choice or at least it's much more difficult to store your Outlook.pst file (if Outlook is what you use) on a different drive than the default used by Outlook.
Other stuff like documents and especially music files and pictures and videos you should have on a different drive. It really depends on how much data you have and how large of an SSD you buy, if you have a 480 Gb or 512 Gb SSD and you only have 100 or 200 Gb of stuff then you might as well have it on the SSD.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject than I have ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol


On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will
meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I
get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how
large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know
this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two
computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have
Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd
stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before
this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I
know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent
laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I
would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol



Re: Jaws & jpg files

Feliciano G
 

Al,

I just tested this for you. I took a screenshot and saved it as a.JPEg and saved it on my desktop.

I then located it and hit the application key then activated recognize with JAWS. Then it brought up a window with the OCR results. Not sure why it is not working for you as I had no problems. I suggest you do a jaws repair.

 

Feliciano

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 4:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws & jpg files

 

Hello,

 

Just tried the new feature where jaws is supposed to read jpg files? I used to do this with open book but just tried with latest version of JAWS 2018 to no avail. Here is what I did.

Went to a jpg file (picture of a receipt) and when cursor had focus on the file I hit application key and selected “recognize with jaws.  It doesn’t seem to do anything. Is there something else I need to do? I remember in the beta testing with first version I could not get this to work and reported it to VFO. Have not tried since but still does not work. Am I needing to do another step? Are others able to complete this ok

 

Al


Jaws & jpg files

Alan Robbins
 

Hello,

 

Just tried the new feature where jaws is supposed to read jpg files? I used to do this with open book but just tried with latest version of JAWS 2018 to no avail. Here is what I did.

Went to a jpg file (picture of a receipt) and when cursor had focus on the file I hit application key and selected “recognize with jaws.  It doesn’t seem to do anything. Is there something else I need to do? I remember in the beta testing with first version I could not get this to work and reported it to VFO. Have not tried since but still does not work. Am I needing to do another step? Are others able to complete this ok

 

Al


Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject than I have ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol

On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will
meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I
get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how
large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know
this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two
computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have
Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd
stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before
this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I
know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent
laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I
would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol



Re: Jaws error

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Sugar,
 
I would call VFO back & ask them why that error message keeps popping up.  Tha shouldn't be happening.
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:42 PM
Subject: Jaws error

Hi all

I just had VFO installed Jaws 17 from jaws 14

All is cool and I am doing well, however when I log on or reboot or restart, the following messeage pops up but in no way does it get in the way of what I do on my computer.

I still am able to work e mails and everything else.

We have uninstalled jaws, reinstalled it, repaired it but it still pops up.

 

I currently use

Windows 7

Microsoftoffice/outlook 2010

Del desk top,64machine

Does anyone know of this?

 

jfw.exe - System Error

Sugar

 

"But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings as eagles; They shall run, and not be weary; and They shall

walk, and not faint." [Isaiah 40:31)

 

Please Support my Transplant journey at:

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Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Thank you.

On 11/24/2017 4:33 PM, Feliciano G wrote:
I advise you to check out the computer at the store. Especially if you are considering a laptop. Something like the keyboard could be a deal breaker even if it has good specs.
I see you do not want a notebook, but I personally have a 13" Dell XPS (9360)with i5 processor, 8GB of Ram and 256GB SSD and it is powerful.

I personally would not invest on a laptop that has less than 2GHZ of prosessor power.

Feliciano


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will
meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I
get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how
large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know
this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two
computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have
Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd
stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before
this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I
know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent
laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I
would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol



Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Thank you. I did speak with Microsoft and they told me I could use it, but I would not have some features. So long as I can create labels and read ExCel files, that will be all I need it for.

Carol

On 11/24/2017 2:32 PM, Feliciano G wrote:
FWIW,
Office 2007 (Version 12) is no longer part of mainstream support and hasn't been tested on Windows 10. However, Office 2007 will install and run on Windows 10. Versions of Office prior to Office 2007 are no longer supported and may not work on Windows 10.

Regards,Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v

On Nov 24, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Tony <tony@k5twz.com> wrote:

I have a severe hearing loss and use hearing aids. That limits my ability to judge audio quality. My Dell win 10 has a lot of software for tailoring the audio quality. I had to use it to get something close to what I have on the older machines I have used. For Jaws and audio books it does the job. Several people on here have mentioned some good audio devices.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Tony. Thanks much for this breakdown. The most intensive work I do is with large files in Kurzweil and editing Goldwave files. Yes, storage is a nice thing to have. I currently have several external hard drives and a shortage on places to plug them in when I need to sort files or get rid of duplicates. I don't know that I would want to store 8t of information, just in case the drive should fail. Do you think the newer systems have a decent sound card or do you have a separate one installed? thanks for your help.

Carol


On 11/24/2017 10:18 AM, Tony wrote:
My old Win 7 machine is a dual core I3 with a max of 8gb and a number of hard drives. It runs Office 2010. I do internet, OCR, editing, and file manipulations on it. I frequently have 20 or more windows open at a time. I have installed a fast SSd for the boot drive and a second, smaller one for a paging file.

I am able to do a lot of work on it but with 8GB ram, it gets both CPU and memory bound and runs very slowly at times, sometimes crashing.

My new win 10 system has a quad core Xeon with 32GB ram, 1TB SSD and a number of hard drives. I got an inexpensive copy of Office 2016 from one of the blind vendors and the machine flys. The quad cores only help if I have a number of CPU intensive programs running or am running a program that can utilize multiple cores. I have a couple of programs that won't run on win 10, which has slowed my learning of the newer system a bit but I will eventually use it for most everything.

My last several machines have been Dell. I know you can get more machine for the buck elsewhere but I have been very happy with their service. My new machine had a problem with the default sound device being switched without notice and disappearing completely at times. A Dell tech spent several days tracking down the intermittent problem. It turned out to be an incorrect driver being loaded, problems with their automatic driver updating, and finally a new motherboard and audio riser were installed. While waiting on diagnostics to run she help me find some software I had been looking for and advised me about improving system performance. The process took a couple of months and I had the same tech for the duration. It was great.
If you don't run several programs at once or do a lot of heavy computing a dual core I5 should last you a number of years. 8TB will probably do but might not be enough in the future. A SSD boot drive is a must. The boot time on my win 7 machine was cut by 2/3 by adding one and programs are more responsive. A 128 or 256GB drive should do if you keep most of your data on another drive. My 240GB SSD is less than half full. The machine seems to freeze at times when I run low on memory. It can take more than 4 seconds to swap a GB of memory to the SSD and replace it. A hard drive can take much longer. When this happens I know it is time to shut down some windows that haven't been used for days or programs that I know have memory leaks. I rarely reboot the win 10 machine and the win 7 machine once or twice a week when it really get slow.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016? My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol













Re: need recommendation for new PC

 

Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC.  I am looking for suggestions for one that will
meet the best use criteria for speech.  Is 8g ram enough or should I
get 12?  Should I get both SSD and SETA frives?  If I neeed SSD, how
large should it be?  Generally, which would be the best brand?  I know
this is a personal choice.  I have had Dells for the last two
computers and am wondering if something else would be better.  I have
Office 2007.  Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016? 
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd
stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before
this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.  I
know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent
laptop or another desktop.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Oh yes, I
would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol


--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett
Owner of Soundtique.
Grants Pass, Or.


Re: need recommendation for new PC

Feliciano G
 

I advise you to check out the computer at the store. Especially if you are considering a laptop. Something like the keyboard could be a deal breaker even if it has good specs.
I see you do not want a notebook, but I personally have a 13" Dell XPS (9360)with i5 processor, 8GB of Ram and 256GB SSD and it is powerful.

I personally would not invest on a laptop that has less than 2GHZ of prosessor power.

Feliciano

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will
meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I
get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how
large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know
this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two
computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have
Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd
stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before
this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I
know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent
laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I
would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol


--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett
Owner of Soundtique.
Grants Pass, Or.


Re: need recommendation for new PC

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox

On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC.  I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech.  Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?  Should I get both SSD and SETA frives?  If I neeed SSD, how large should it be?  Generally, which would be the best brand?  I know this is a personal choice.  I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better.  I have Office 2007.  Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?  My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.  I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol

--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett
Owner of Soundtique.
Grants Pass, Or.


Re: need recommendation for new PC

Feliciano G
 

FWIW,
Office 2007 (Version 12) is no longer part of mainstream support and hasn't been tested on Windows 10. However, Office 2007 will install and run on Windows 10. Versions of Office prior to Office 2007 are no longer supported and may not work on Windows 10.

Regards,Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v

On Nov 24, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Tony <tony@k5twz.com> wrote:

I have a severe hearing loss and use hearing aids. That limits my ability to judge audio quality. My Dell win 10 has a lot of software for tailoring the audio quality. I had to use it to get something close to what I have on the older machines I have used. For Jaws and audio books it does the job. Several people on here have mentioned some good audio devices.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Tony. Thanks much for this breakdown. The most intensive work I do is with large files in Kurzweil and editing Goldwave files. Yes, storage is a nice thing to have. I currently have several external hard drives and a shortage on places to plug them in when I need to sort files or get rid of duplicates. I don't know that I would want to store 8t of information, just in case the drive should fail. Do you think the newer systems have a decent sound card or do you have a separate one installed? thanks for your help.

Carol


On 11/24/2017 10:18 AM, Tony wrote:
My old Win 7 machine is a dual core I3 with a max of 8gb and a number of hard drives. It runs Office 2010. I do internet, OCR, editing, and file manipulations on it. I frequently have 20 or more windows open at a time. I have installed a fast SSd for the boot drive and a second, smaller one for a paging file.

I am able to do a lot of work on it but with 8GB ram, it gets both CPU and memory bound and runs very slowly at times, sometimes crashing.

My new win 10 system has a quad core Xeon with 32GB ram, 1TB SSD and a number of hard drives. I got an inexpensive copy of Office 2016 from one of the blind vendors and the machine flys. The quad cores only help if I have a number of CPU intensive programs running or am running a program that can utilize multiple cores. I have a couple of programs that won't run on win 10, which has slowed my learning of the newer system a bit but I will eventually use it for most everything.

My last several machines have been Dell. I know you can get more machine for the buck elsewhere but I have been very happy with their service. My new machine had a problem with the default sound device being switched without notice and disappearing completely at times. A Dell tech spent several days tracking down the intermittent problem. It turned out to be an incorrect driver being loaded, problems with their automatic driver updating, and finally a new motherboard and audio riser were installed. While waiting on diagnostics to run she help me find some software I had been looking for and advised me about improving system performance. The process took a couple of months and I had the same tech for the duration. It was great.
If you don't run several programs at once or do a lot of heavy computing a dual core I5 should last you a number of years. 8TB will probably do but might not be enough in the future. A SSD boot drive is a must. The boot time on my win 7 machine was cut by 2/3 by adding one and programs are more responsive. A 128 or 256GB drive should do if you keep most of your data on another drive. My 240GB SSD is less than half full. The machine seems to freeze at times when I run low on memory. It can take more than 4 seconds to swap a GB of memory to the SSD and replace it. A hard drive can take much longer. When this happens I know it is time to shut down some windows that haven't been used for days or programs that I know have memory leaks. I rarely reboot the win 10 machine and the win 7 machine once or twice a week when it really get slow.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016? My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol














Re: need recommendation for new PC

Tony
 

I have a severe hearing loss and use hearing aids. That limits my ability to judge audio quality. My Dell win 10 has a lot of software for tailoring the audio quality. I had to use it to get something close to what I have on the older machines I have used. For Jaws and audio books it does the job. Several people on here have mentioned some good audio devices.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Tony. Thanks much for this breakdown. The most intensive work I do is with large files in Kurzweil and editing Goldwave files. Yes, storage is a nice thing to have. I currently have several external hard drives and a shortage on places to plug them in when I need to sort files or get rid of duplicates. I don't know that I would want to store 8t of information, just in case the drive should fail. Do you think the newer systems have a decent sound card or do you have a separate one installed? thanks for your help.

Carol


On 11/24/2017 10:18 AM, Tony wrote:
My old Win 7 machine is a dual core I3 with a max of 8gb and a number of hard drives. It runs Office 2010. I do internet, OCR, editing, and file manipulations on it. I frequently have 20 or more windows open at a time. I have installed a fast SSd for the boot drive and a second, smaller one for a paging file.

I am able to do a lot of work on it but with 8GB ram, it gets both CPU and memory bound and runs very slowly at times, sometimes crashing.

My new win 10 system has a quad core Xeon with 32GB ram, 1TB SSD and a number of hard drives. I got an inexpensive copy of Office 2016 from one of the blind vendors and the machine flys. The quad cores only help if I have a number of CPU intensive programs running or am running a program that can utilize multiple cores. I have a couple of programs that won't run on win 10, which has slowed my learning of the newer system a bit but I will eventually use it for most everything.

My last several machines have been Dell. I know you can get more machine for the buck elsewhere but I have been very happy with their service. My new machine had a problem with the default sound device being switched without notice and disappearing completely at times. A Dell tech spent several days tracking down the intermittent problem. It turned out to be an incorrect driver being loaded, problems with their automatic driver updating, and finally a new motherboard and audio riser were installed. While waiting on diagnostics to run she help me find some software I had been looking for and advised me about improving system performance. The process took a couple of months and I had the same tech for the duration. It was great.
If you don't run several programs at once or do a lot of heavy computing a dual core I5 should last you a number of years. 8TB will probably do but might not be enough in the future. A SSD boot drive is a must. The boot time on my win 7 machine was cut by 2/3 by adding one and programs are more responsive. A 128 or 256GB drive should do if you keep most of your data on another drive. My 240GB SSD is less than half full. The machine seems to freeze at times when I run low on memory. It can take more than 4 seconds to swap a GB of memory to the SSD and replace it. A hard drive can take much longer. When this happens I know it is time to shut down some windows that haven't been used for days or programs that I know have memory leaks. I rarely reboot the win 10 machine and the win 7 machine once or twice a week when it really get slow.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016? My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol








Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Hi Tony. Thanks much for this breakdown. The most intensive work I do is with large files in Kurzweil and editing Goldwave files. Yes, storage is a nice thing to have. I currently have several external hard drives and a shortage on places to plug them in when I need to sort files or get rid of duplicates. I don't know that I would want to store 8t of information, just in case the drive should fail. Do you think the newer systems have a decent sound card or do you have a separate one installed? thanks for your help.

Carol

On 11/24/2017 10:18 AM, Tony wrote:
My old Win 7 machine is a dual core I3 with a max of 8gb and a number of hard drives. It runs Office 2010. I do internet, OCR, editing, and file manipulations on it. I frequently have 20 or more windows open at a time. I have installed a fast SSd for the boot drive and a second, smaller one for a paging file.

I am able to do a lot of work on it but with 8GB ram, it gets both CPU and memory bound and runs very slowly at times, sometimes crashing.

My new win 10 system has a quad core Xeon with 32GB ram, 1TB SSD and a number of hard drives. I got an inexpensive copy of Office 2016 from one of the blind vendors and the machine flys. The quad cores only help if I have a number of CPU intensive programs running or am running a program that can utilize multiple cores. I have a couple of programs that won't run on win 10, which has slowed my learning of the newer system a bit but I will eventually use it for most everything.

My last several machines have been Dell. I know you can get more machine for the buck elsewhere but I have been very happy with their service. My new machine had a problem with the default sound device being switched without notice and disappearing completely at times. A Dell tech spent several days tracking down the intermittent problem. It turned out to be an incorrect driver being loaded, problems with their automatic driver updating, and finally a new motherboard and audio riser were installed. While waiting on diagnostics to run she help me find some software I had been looking for and advised me about improving system performance. The process took a couple of months and I had the same tech for the duration. It was great.
If you don't run several programs at once or do a lot of heavy computing a dual core I5 should last you a number of years. 8TB will probably do but might not be enough in the future. A SSD boot drive is a must. The boot time on my win 7 machine was cut by 2/3 by adding one and programs are more responsive. A 128 or 256GB drive should do if you keep most of your data on another drive. My 240GB SSD is less than half full. The machine seems to freeze at times when I run low on memory. It can take more than 4 seconds to swap a GB of memory to the SSD and replace it. A hard drive can take much longer. When this happens I know it is time to shut down some windows that haven't been used for days or programs that I know have memory leaks. I rarely reboot the win 10 machine and the win 7 machine once or twice a week when it really get slow.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016? My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol







Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Hi Richard,

The lady at the disabilities desk says I can use my 2007 version if I have the activation key, but I will probably be missing some features.  Since I am not missing anything that I normally use, I don't see a problem with using my original version.  There's a $100 savings already, grin.  Thanks for the idea.

Carol


On 11/24/2017 10:14 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I’d suggest calling Microsoft accessibility to double check that Office 2007 will run on Windows 10.  I am fairly sure it will, but it wouldn’t hurt to double check.

800-936-5900

 

Good luck,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 6:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

 

Thank you, Richard.  I am trying to get someone to go out with me, grin, but I may try Dell and see what they are offering.  I don't use Office enough to warrant paying for the online version.  I mainly use it so I can open documents with Kurzweil.  There must be a program that opens a particular file type before Kurzweil can open it.  Otherwise, about the only thing I use Office for is creating address labels and an occasional spreadsheet. 

Carol

On 11/24/2017 9:22 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

 

We use Del Latitude laptops at my office.

They have been very stable and reliable over the years.

They are Business class, so they run around $1300 and up.

 Those of us at work that use Jaws have found 8 GB to be plenty, but if you can get 12, why not.

I've not use an SSD drive, but I've heard they are great and so much faster.

IF you do not plan to move the computer, stick with a desktop. You can get more for your money.

I personally would never have a hybrid. 

It seems that most computers have 1 TB drives these days.

If you go with Office 2016, the office 365 subscription also gets you 1 TB of OneDrive space.

My wife, who is sighted, recently bought a Del Inspiron laptop and loves it. It was only $480 with an I5 chip.

I would recommend the I7 chip for the tiny bit more processing speed since you will be running JAWS.

When my Toshiba laptop dies, I will buy a Del.

I hope whatever you choose, you can find on sale today.

LATER,

Richard

 

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿

 


On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:01 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io <carollablady@...> wrote:

Hi,

I must get a new PC.  I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech.  Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?  Should I get both SSD and SETA frives?  If I neeed SSD, how large should it be?  Generally, which would be the best brand?  I know this is a personal choice.  I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better.  I have Office 2007.  Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?  My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.  I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol


 



Re: need recommendation for new PC

Kelly Pierce
 

I have found that blind people fail to put a high importance on
processor choice. This is particularly so when multiple programs are
open with multiple windows of each program and you are also doing
processor intensive tasks, such as OCR conversion or converting files
from one format to another. It is important to buy an i7 processor of
the most recent Intel chip generation. Intel has a special process
known as hyper threading that allows a chip to process quickly
multiple tasks at the same time. You will not be disappointed with the
performance of these machines. Computer makers often include loads of
memory in the high performance machines.

You do not need a solid state drive but you might want one. Windows
and programs load very quickly and the responsiveness is incredible.
I specifically have one on my computer along with a regular terabyte
hard disc drive for keeping data files, such as my ripped music files.
All of the black Friday deals on computers are typically for mid-range
machines and I have never seen a high performance PC go on deep
discount after Thanksgiving. I bought my Dell computer on Christmas
Eve as a closeout. The store had two left, both display models. The
computer retailed for $1,800 and I paid $1,200 before Chicago’s
outrageously high sales tax was applied. High performance computers
are not cheap bargains. Few people are willing to pay for the
performance and computer companies have the pricing power in this
relatively small market.

Kelly

On 11/24/17, Tony <tony@k5twz.com> wrote:
My old Win 7 machine is a dual core I3 with a max of 8gb and a number of
hard drives. It runs Office 2010. I do internet, OCR, editing, and file
manipulations on it. I frequently have 20 or more windows open at a time.
I have installed a fast SSd for the boot drive and a second, smaller one for
a paging file.

I am able to do a lot of work on it but with 8GB ram, it gets both CPU and
memory bound and runs very slowly at times, sometimes crashing.

My new win 10 system has a quad core Xeon with 32GB ram, 1TB SSD and a
number of hard drives. I got an inexpensive copy of Office 2016 from one of
the blind vendors and the machine flys. The quad cores only help if I have
a number of CPU intensive programs running or am running a program that can
utilize multiple cores. I have a couple of programs that won't run on win
10, which has slowed my learning of the newer system a bit but I will
eventually use it for most everything.

My last several machines have been Dell. I know you can get more machine
for the buck elsewhere but I have been very happy with their service. My
new machine had a problem with the default sound device being switched
without notice and disappearing completely at times. A Dell tech spent
several days tracking down the intermittent problem. It turned out to be an
incorrect driver being loaded, problems with their automatic driver
updating, and finally a new motherboard and audio riser were installed.
While waiting on diagnostics to run she help me find some software I had
been looking for and advised me about improving system performance. The
process took a couple of months and I had the same tech for the duration.
It was great.
If you don't run several programs at once or do a lot of heavy computing a
dual core I5 should last you a number of years. 8TB will probably do but
might not be enough in the future. A SSD boot drive is a must. The boot
time on my win 7 machine was cut by 2/3 by adding one and programs are more
responsive. A 128 or 256GB drive should do if you keep most of your data
on another drive. My 240GB SSD is less than half full. The machine seems
to freeze at times when I run low on memory. It can take more than 4
seconds to swap a GB of memory to the SSD and replace it. A hard drive can
take much longer. When this happens I know it is time to shut down some
windows that haven't been used for days or programs that I know have memory
leaks. I rarely reboot the win 10 machine and the win 7 machine once or
twice a week when it really get slow.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol
Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet
the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?
Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how large should it
be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know this is a personal
choice. I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if
something else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a
win10 system or Should I get 2016? My current PC is almost 8 years old and
is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of
getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I know I do
not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or
another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I would like to get
one on sale today, grin.

Carol








Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Thanks.  I will do that.

Carol

On 11/24/2017 10:14 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I’d suggest calling Microsoft accessibility to double check that Office 2007 will run on Windows 10.  I am fairly sure it will, but it wouldn’t hurt to double check.

800-936-5900

 

Good luck,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 6:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

 

Thank you, Richard.  I am trying to get someone to go out with me, grin, but I may try Dell and see what they are offering.  I don't use Office enough to warrant paying for the online version.  I mainly use it so I can open documents with Kurzweil.  There must be a program that opens a particular file type before Kurzweil can open it.  Otherwise, about the only thing I use Office for is creating address labels and an occasional spreadsheet. 

Carol

On 11/24/2017 9:22 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

 

We use Del Latitude laptops at my office.

They have been very stable and reliable over the years.

They are Business class, so they run around $1300 and up.

 Those of us at work that use Jaws have found 8 GB to be plenty, but if you can get 12, why not.

I've not use an SSD drive, but I've heard they are great and so much faster.

IF you do not plan to move the computer, stick with a desktop. You can get more for your money.

I personally would never have a hybrid. 

It seems that most computers have 1 TB drives these days.

If you go with Office 2016, the office 365 subscription also gets you 1 TB of OneDrive space.

My wife, who is sighted, recently bought a Del Inspiron laptop and loves it. It was only $480 with an I5 chip.

I would recommend the I7 chip for the tiny bit more processing speed since you will be running JAWS.

When my Toshiba laptop dies, I will buy a Del.

I hope whatever you choose, you can find on sale today.

LATER,

Richard

 

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿

 


On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:01 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io <carollablady@...> wrote:

Hi,

I must get a new PC.  I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech.  Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?  Should I get both SSD and SETA frives?  If I neeed SSD, how large should it be?  Generally, which would be the best brand?  I know this is a personal choice.  I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better.  I have Office 2007.  Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?  My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.  I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol


 



Re: need recommendation for new PC

Tony
 

My old Win 7 machine is a dual core I3 with a max of 8gb and a number of hard drives. It runs Office 2010. I do internet, OCR, editing, and file manipulations on it. I frequently have 20 or more windows open at a time. I have installed a fast SSd for the boot drive and a second, smaller one for a paging file.

I am able to do a lot of work on it but with 8GB ram, it gets both CPU and memory bound and runs very slowly at times, sometimes crashing.

My new win 10 system has a quad core Xeon with 32GB ram, 1TB SSD and a number of hard drives. I got an inexpensive copy of Office 2016 from one of the blind vendors and the machine flys. The quad cores only help if I have a number of CPU intensive programs running or am running a program that can utilize multiple cores. I have a couple of programs that won't run on win 10, which has slowed my learning of the newer system a bit but I will eventually use it for most everything.

My last several machines have been Dell. I know you can get more machine for the buck elsewhere but I have been very happy with their service. My new machine had a problem with the default sound device being switched without notice and disappearing completely at times. A Dell tech spent several days tracking down the intermittent problem. It turned out to be an incorrect driver being loaded, problems with their automatic driver updating, and finally a new motherboard and audio riser were installed. While waiting on diagnostics to run she help me find some software I had been looking for and advised me about improving system performance. The process took a couple of months and I had the same tech for the duration. It was great.
If you don't run several programs at once or do a lot of heavy computing a dual core I5 should last you a number of years. 8TB will probably do but might not be enough in the future. A SSD boot drive is a must. The boot time on my win 7 machine was cut by 2/3 by adding one and programs are more responsive. A 128 or 256GB drive should do if you keep most of your data on another drive. My 240GB SSD is less than half full. The machine seems to freeze at times when I run low on memory. It can take more than 4 seconds to swap a GB of memory to the SSD and replace it. A hard drive can take much longer. When this happens I know it is time to shut down some windows that haven't been used for days or programs that I know have memory leaks. I rarely reboot the win 10 machine and the win 7 machine once or twice a week when it really get slow.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016? My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol


Re: need recommendation for new PC

Richard Turner
 

I’d suggest calling Microsoft accessibility to double check that Office 2007 will run on Windows 10.  I am fairly sure it will, but it wouldn’t hurt to double check.

800-936-5900

 

Good luck,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 6:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

 

Thank you, Richard.  I am trying to get someone to go out with me, grin, but I may try Dell and see what they are offering.  I don't use Office enough to warrant paying for the online version.  I mainly use it so I can open documents with Kurzweil.  There must be a program that opens a particular file type before Kurzweil can open it.  Otherwise, about the only thing I use Office for is creating address labels and an occasional spreadsheet. 

Carol

On 11/24/2017 9:22 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

 

We use Del Latitude laptops at my office.

They have been very stable and reliable over the years.

They are Business class, so they run around $1300 and up.

 Those of us at work that use Jaws have found 8 GB to be plenty, but if you can get 12, why not.

I've not use an SSD drive, but I've heard they are great and so much faster.

IF you do not plan to move the computer, stick with a desktop. You can get more for your money.

I personally would never have a hybrid. 

It seems that most computers have 1 TB drives these days.

If you go with Office 2016, the office 365 subscription also gets you 1 TB of OneDrive space.

My wife, who is sighted, recently bought a Del Inspiron laptop and loves it. It was only $480 with an I5 chip.

I would recommend the I7 chip for the tiny bit more processing speed since you will be running JAWS.

When my Toshiba laptop dies, I will buy a Del.

I hope whatever you choose, you can find on sale today.

LATER,

Richard

 

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿

 


On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:01 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io <carollablady@...> wrote:

Hi,

I must get a new PC.  I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech.  Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?  Should I get both SSD and SETA frives?  If I neeed SSD, how large should it be?  Generally, which would be the best brand?  I know this is a personal choice.  I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better.  I have Office 2007.  Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?  My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.  I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol


 


Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Thank you, Richard.  I am trying to get someone to go out with me, grin, but I may try Dell and see what they are offering.  I don't use Office enough to warrant paying for the online version.  I mainly use it so I can open documents with Kurzweil.  There must be a program that opens a particular file type before Kurzweil can open it.  Otherwise, about the only thing I use Office for is creating address labels and an occasional spreadsheet. 

Carol


On 11/24/2017 9:22 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

We use Del Latitude laptops at my office.
They have been very stable and reliable over the years.
They are Business class, so they run around $1300 and up.
 Those of us at work that use Jaws have found 8 GB to be plenty, but if you can get 12, why not.
I've not use an SSD drive, but I've heard they are great and so much faster.
IF you do not plan to move the computer, stick with a desktop. You can get more for your money.
I personally would never have a hybrid. 
It seems that most computers have 1 TB drives these days.
If you go with Office 2016, the office 365 subscription also gets you 1 TB of OneDrive space.
My wife, who is sighted, recently bought a Del Inspiron laptop and loves it. It was only $480 with an I5 chip.
I would recommend the I7 chip for the tiny bit more processing speed since you will be running JAWS.
When my Toshiba laptop dies, I will buy a Del.
I hope whatever you choose, you can find on sale today.
LATER,
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿


On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:01 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io <carollablady@...> wrote:

Hi,

I must get a new PC.  I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech.  Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?  Should I get both SSD and SETA frives?  If I neeed SSD, how large should it be?  Generally, which would be the best brand?  I know this is a personal choice.  I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better.  I have Office 2007.  Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?  My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.  I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol





Re: need recommendation for new PC

Richard Turner
 


We use Del Latitude laptops at my office.
They have been very stable and reliable over the years.
They are Business class, so they run around $1300 and up.
 Those of us at work that use Jaws have found 8 GB to be plenty, but if you can get 12, why not.
I've not use an SSD drive, but I've heard they are great and so much faster.
IF you do not plan to move the computer, stick with a desktop. You can get more for your money.
I personally would never have a hybrid. 
It seems that most computers have 1 TB drives these days.
If you go with Office 2016, the office 365 subscription also gets you 1 TB of OneDrive space.
My wife, who is sighted, recently bought a Del Inspiron laptop and loves it. It was only $480 with an I5 chip.
I would recommend the I7 chip for the tiny bit more processing speed since you will be running JAWS.
When my Toshiba laptop dies, I will buy a Del.
I hope whatever you choose, you can find on sale today.
LATER,
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿


On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:01 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io <carollablady@...> wrote:

Hi,

I must get a new PC.  I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech.  Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?  Should I get both SSD and SETA frives?  If I neeed SSD, how large should it be?  Generally, which would be the best brand?  I know this is a personal choice.  I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better.  I have Office 2007.  Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?  My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.  I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol