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Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Hi Tony. Thanks much for this breakdown. The most intensive work I do is with large files in Kurzweil and editing Goldwave files. Yes, storage is a nice thing to have. I currently have several external hard drives and a shortage on places to plug them in when I need to sort files or get rid of duplicates. I don't know that I would want to store 8t of information, just in case the drive should fail. Do you think the newer systems have a decent sound card or do you have a separate one installed? thanks for your help.

Carol

On 11/24/2017 10:18 AM, Tony wrote:
My old Win 7 machine is a dual core I3 with a max of 8gb and a number of hard drives. It runs Office 2010. I do internet, OCR, editing, and file manipulations on it. I frequently have 20 or more windows open at a time. I have installed a fast SSd for the boot drive and a second, smaller one for a paging file.

I am able to do a lot of work on it but with 8GB ram, it gets both CPU and memory bound and runs very slowly at times, sometimes crashing.

My new win 10 system has a quad core Xeon with 32GB ram, 1TB SSD and a number of hard drives. I got an inexpensive copy of Office 2016 from one of the blind vendors and the machine flys. The quad cores only help if I have a number of CPU intensive programs running or am running a program that can utilize multiple cores. I have a couple of programs that won't run on win 10, which has slowed my learning of the newer system a bit but I will eventually use it for most everything.

My last several machines have been Dell. I know you can get more machine for the buck elsewhere but I have been very happy with their service. My new machine had a problem with the default sound device being switched without notice and disappearing completely at times. A Dell tech spent several days tracking down the intermittent problem. It turned out to be an incorrect driver being loaded, problems with their automatic driver updating, and finally a new motherboard and audio riser were installed. While waiting on diagnostics to run she help me find some software I had been looking for and advised me about improving system performance. The process took a couple of months and I had the same tech for the duration. It was great.
If you don't run several programs at once or do a lot of heavy computing a dual core I5 should last you a number of years. 8TB will probably do but might not be enough in the future. A SSD boot drive is a must. The boot time on my win 7 machine was cut by 2/3 by adding one and programs are more responsive. A 128 or 256GB drive should do if you keep most of your data on another drive. My 240GB SSD is less than half full. The machine seems to freeze at times when I run low on memory. It can take more than 4 seconds to swap a GB of memory to the SSD and replace it. A hard drive can take much longer. When this happens I know it is time to shut down some windows that haven't been used for days or programs that I know have memory leaks. I rarely reboot the win 10 machine and the win 7 machine once or twice a week when it really get slow.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016? My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol







Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Hi Richard,

The lady at the disabilities desk says I can use my 2007 version if I have the activation key, but I will probably be missing some features.  Since I am not missing anything that I normally use, I don't see a problem with using my original version.  There's a $100 savings already, grin.  Thanks for the idea.

Carol


On 11/24/2017 10:14 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I’d suggest calling Microsoft accessibility to double check that Office 2007 will run on Windows 10.  I am fairly sure it will, but it wouldn’t hurt to double check.

800-936-5900

 

Good luck,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 6:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

 

Thank you, Richard.  I am trying to get someone to go out with me, grin, but I may try Dell and see what they are offering.  I don't use Office enough to warrant paying for the online version.  I mainly use it so I can open documents with Kurzweil.  There must be a program that opens a particular file type before Kurzweil can open it.  Otherwise, about the only thing I use Office for is creating address labels and an occasional spreadsheet. 

Carol

On 11/24/2017 9:22 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

 

We use Del Latitude laptops at my office.

They have been very stable and reliable over the years.

They are Business class, so they run around $1300 and up.

 Those of us at work that use Jaws have found 8 GB to be plenty, but if you can get 12, why not.

I've not use an SSD drive, but I've heard they are great and so much faster.

IF you do not plan to move the computer, stick with a desktop. You can get more for your money.

I personally would never have a hybrid. 

It seems that most computers have 1 TB drives these days.

If you go with Office 2016, the office 365 subscription also gets you 1 TB of OneDrive space.

My wife, who is sighted, recently bought a Del Inspiron laptop and loves it. It was only $480 with an I5 chip.

I would recommend the I7 chip for the tiny bit more processing speed since you will be running JAWS.

When my Toshiba laptop dies, I will buy a Del.

I hope whatever you choose, you can find on sale today.

LATER,

Richard

 

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿

 


On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:01 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io <carollablady@...> wrote:

Hi,

I must get a new PC.  I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech.  Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?  Should I get both SSD and SETA frives?  If I neeed SSD, how large should it be?  Generally, which would be the best brand?  I know this is a personal choice.  I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better.  I have Office 2007.  Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?  My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.  I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol


 



Re: need recommendation for new PC

Kelly Pierce
 

I have found that blind people fail to put a high importance on
processor choice. This is particularly so when multiple programs are
open with multiple windows of each program and you are also doing
processor intensive tasks, such as OCR conversion or converting files
from one format to another. It is important to buy an i7 processor of
the most recent Intel chip generation. Intel has a special process
known as hyper threading that allows a chip to process quickly
multiple tasks at the same time. You will not be disappointed with the
performance of these machines. Computer makers often include loads of
memory in the high performance machines.

You do not need a solid state drive but you might want one. Windows
and programs load very quickly and the responsiveness is incredible.
I specifically have one on my computer along with a regular terabyte
hard disc drive for keeping data files, such as my ripped music files.
All of the black Friday deals on computers are typically for mid-range
machines and I have never seen a high performance PC go on deep
discount after Thanksgiving. I bought my Dell computer on Christmas
Eve as a closeout. The store had two left, both display models. The
computer retailed for $1,800 and I paid $1,200 before Chicago’s
outrageously high sales tax was applied. High performance computers
are not cheap bargains. Few people are willing to pay for the
performance and computer companies have the pricing power in this
relatively small market.

Kelly

On 11/24/17, Tony <tony@k5twz.com> wrote:
My old Win 7 machine is a dual core I3 with a max of 8gb and a number of
hard drives. It runs Office 2010. I do internet, OCR, editing, and file
manipulations on it. I frequently have 20 or more windows open at a time.
I have installed a fast SSd for the boot drive and a second, smaller one for
a paging file.

I am able to do a lot of work on it but with 8GB ram, it gets both CPU and
memory bound and runs very slowly at times, sometimes crashing.

My new win 10 system has a quad core Xeon with 32GB ram, 1TB SSD and a
number of hard drives. I got an inexpensive copy of Office 2016 from one of
the blind vendors and the machine flys. The quad cores only help if I have
a number of CPU intensive programs running or am running a program that can
utilize multiple cores. I have a couple of programs that won't run on win
10, which has slowed my learning of the newer system a bit but I will
eventually use it for most everything.

My last several machines have been Dell. I know you can get more machine
for the buck elsewhere but I have been very happy with their service. My
new machine had a problem with the default sound device being switched
without notice and disappearing completely at times. A Dell tech spent
several days tracking down the intermittent problem. It turned out to be an
incorrect driver being loaded, problems with their automatic driver
updating, and finally a new motherboard and audio riser were installed.
While waiting on diagnostics to run she help me find some software I had
been looking for and advised me about improving system performance. The
process took a couple of months and I had the same tech for the duration.
It was great.
If you don't run several programs at once or do a lot of heavy computing a
dual core I5 should last you a number of years. 8TB will probably do but
might not be enough in the future. A SSD boot drive is a must. The boot
time on my win 7 machine was cut by 2/3 by adding one and programs are more
responsive. A 128 or 256GB drive should do if you keep most of your data
on another drive. My 240GB SSD is less than half full. The machine seems
to freeze at times when I run low on memory. It can take more than 4
seconds to swap a GB of memory to the SSD and replace it. A hard drive can
take much longer. When this happens I know it is time to shut down some
windows that haven't been used for days or programs that I know have memory
leaks. I rarely reboot the win 10 machine and the win 7 machine once or
twice a week when it really get slow.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol
Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet
the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?
Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how large should it
be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know this is a personal
choice. I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if
something else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a
win10 system or Should I get 2016? My current PC is almost 8 years old and
is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of
getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I know I do
not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or
another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I would like to get
one on sale today, grin.

Carol








Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Thanks.  I will do that.

Carol

On 11/24/2017 10:14 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I’d suggest calling Microsoft accessibility to double check that Office 2007 will run on Windows 10.  I am fairly sure it will, but it wouldn’t hurt to double check.

800-936-5900

 

Good luck,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 6:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

 

Thank you, Richard.  I am trying to get someone to go out with me, grin, but I may try Dell and see what they are offering.  I don't use Office enough to warrant paying for the online version.  I mainly use it so I can open documents with Kurzweil.  There must be a program that opens a particular file type before Kurzweil can open it.  Otherwise, about the only thing I use Office for is creating address labels and an occasional spreadsheet. 

Carol

On 11/24/2017 9:22 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

 

We use Del Latitude laptops at my office.

They have been very stable and reliable over the years.

They are Business class, so they run around $1300 and up.

 Those of us at work that use Jaws have found 8 GB to be plenty, but if you can get 12, why not.

I've not use an SSD drive, but I've heard they are great and so much faster.

IF you do not plan to move the computer, stick with a desktop. You can get more for your money.

I personally would never have a hybrid. 

It seems that most computers have 1 TB drives these days.

If you go with Office 2016, the office 365 subscription also gets you 1 TB of OneDrive space.

My wife, who is sighted, recently bought a Del Inspiron laptop and loves it. It was only $480 with an I5 chip.

I would recommend the I7 chip for the tiny bit more processing speed since you will be running JAWS.

When my Toshiba laptop dies, I will buy a Del.

I hope whatever you choose, you can find on sale today.

LATER,

Richard

 

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿

 


On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:01 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io <carollablady@...> wrote:

Hi,

I must get a new PC.  I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech.  Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?  Should I get both SSD and SETA frives?  If I neeed SSD, how large should it be?  Generally, which would be the best brand?  I know this is a personal choice.  I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better.  I have Office 2007.  Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?  My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.  I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol


 



Re: need recommendation for new PC

Tony
 

My old Win 7 machine is a dual core I3 with a max of 8gb and a number of hard drives. It runs Office 2010. I do internet, OCR, editing, and file manipulations on it. I frequently have 20 or more windows open at a time. I have installed a fast SSd for the boot drive and a second, smaller one for a paging file.

I am able to do a lot of work on it but with 8GB ram, it gets both CPU and memory bound and runs very slowly at times, sometimes crashing.

My new win 10 system has a quad core Xeon with 32GB ram, 1TB SSD and a number of hard drives. I got an inexpensive copy of Office 2016 from one of the blind vendors and the machine flys. The quad cores only help if I have a number of CPU intensive programs running or am running a program that can utilize multiple cores. I have a couple of programs that won't run on win 10, which has slowed my learning of the newer system a bit but I will eventually use it for most everything.

My last several machines have been Dell. I know you can get more machine for the buck elsewhere but I have been very happy with their service. My new machine had a problem with the default sound device being switched without notice and disappearing completely at times. A Dell tech spent several days tracking down the intermittent problem. It turned out to be an incorrect driver being loaded, problems with their automatic driver updating, and finally a new motherboard and audio riser were installed. While waiting on diagnostics to run she help me find some software I had been looking for and advised me about improving system performance. The process took a couple of months and I had the same tech for the duration. It was great.
If you don't run several programs at once or do a lot of heavy computing a dual core I5 should last you a number of years. 8TB will probably do but might not be enough in the future. A SSD boot drive is a must. The boot time on my win 7 machine was cut by 2/3 by adding one and programs are more responsive. A 128 or 256GB drive should do if you keep most of your data on another drive. My 240GB SSD is less than half full. The machine seems to freeze at times when I run low on memory. It can take more than 4 seconds to swap a GB of memory to the SSD and replace it. A hard drive can take much longer. When this happens I know it is time to shut down some windows that haven't been used for days or programs that I know have memory leaks. I rarely reboot the win 10 machine and the win 7 machine once or twice a week when it really get slow.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016? My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol


Re: need recommendation for new PC

Richard Turner
 

I’d suggest calling Microsoft accessibility to double check that Office 2007 will run on Windows 10.  I am fairly sure it will, but it wouldn’t hurt to double check.

800-936-5900

 

Good luck,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 6:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

 

Thank you, Richard.  I am trying to get someone to go out with me, grin, but I may try Dell and see what they are offering.  I don't use Office enough to warrant paying for the online version.  I mainly use it so I can open documents with Kurzweil.  There must be a program that opens a particular file type before Kurzweil can open it.  Otherwise, about the only thing I use Office for is creating address labels and an occasional spreadsheet. 

Carol

On 11/24/2017 9:22 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

 

We use Del Latitude laptops at my office.

They have been very stable and reliable over the years.

They are Business class, so they run around $1300 and up.

 Those of us at work that use Jaws have found 8 GB to be plenty, but if you can get 12, why not.

I've not use an SSD drive, but I've heard they are great and so much faster.

IF you do not plan to move the computer, stick with a desktop. You can get more for your money.

I personally would never have a hybrid. 

It seems that most computers have 1 TB drives these days.

If you go with Office 2016, the office 365 subscription also gets you 1 TB of OneDrive space.

My wife, who is sighted, recently bought a Del Inspiron laptop and loves it. It was only $480 with an I5 chip.

I would recommend the I7 chip for the tiny bit more processing speed since you will be running JAWS.

When my Toshiba laptop dies, I will buy a Del.

I hope whatever you choose, you can find on sale today.

LATER,

Richard

 

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿

 


On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:01 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io <carollablady@...> wrote:

Hi,

I must get a new PC.  I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech.  Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?  Should I get both SSD and SETA frives?  If I neeed SSD, how large should it be?  Generally, which would be the best brand?  I know this is a personal choice.  I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better.  I have Office 2007.  Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?  My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.  I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol


 


Re: need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Thank you, Richard.  I am trying to get someone to go out with me, grin, but I may try Dell and see what they are offering.  I don't use Office enough to warrant paying for the online version.  I mainly use it so I can open documents with Kurzweil.  There must be a program that opens a particular file type before Kurzweil can open it.  Otherwise, about the only thing I use Office for is creating address labels and an occasional spreadsheet. 

Carol


On 11/24/2017 9:22 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

We use Del Latitude laptops at my office.
They have been very stable and reliable over the years.
They are Business class, so they run around $1300 and up.
 Those of us at work that use Jaws have found 8 GB to be plenty, but if you can get 12, why not.
I've not use an SSD drive, but I've heard they are great and so much faster.
IF you do not plan to move the computer, stick with a desktop. You can get more for your money.
I personally would never have a hybrid. 
It seems that most computers have 1 TB drives these days.
If you go with Office 2016, the office 365 subscription also gets you 1 TB of OneDrive space.
My wife, who is sighted, recently bought a Del Inspiron laptop and loves it. It was only $480 with an I5 chip.
I would recommend the I7 chip for the tiny bit more processing speed since you will be running JAWS.
When my Toshiba laptop dies, I will buy a Del.
I hope whatever you choose, you can find on sale today.
LATER,
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿


On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:01 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io <carollablady@...> wrote:

Hi,

I must get a new PC.  I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech.  Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?  Should I get both SSD and SETA frives?  If I neeed SSD, how large should it be?  Generally, which would be the best brand?  I know this is a personal choice.  I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better.  I have Office 2007.  Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?  My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.  I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol





Re: need recommendation for new PC

Richard Turner
 


We use Del Latitude laptops at my office.
They have been very stable and reliable over the years.
They are Business class, so they run around $1300 and up.
 Those of us at work that use Jaws have found 8 GB to be plenty, but if you can get 12, why not.
I've not use an SSD drive, but I've heard they are great and so much faster.
IF you do not plan to move the computer, stick with a desktop. You can get more for your money.
I personally would never have a hybrid. 
It seems that most computers have 1 TB drives these days.
If you go with Office 2016, the office 365 subscription also gets you 1 TB of OneDrive space.
My wife, who is sighted, recently bought a Del Inspiron laptop and loves it. It was only $480 with an I5 chip.
I would recommend the I7 chip for the tiny bit more processing speed since you will be running JAWS.
When my Toshiba laptop dies, I will buy a Del.
I hope whatever you choose, you can find on sale today.
LATER,
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿


On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:01 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io <carollablady@...> wrote:

Hi,

I must get a new PC.  I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech.  Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12?  Should I get both SSD and SETA frives?  If I neeed SSD, how large should it be?  Generally, which would be the best brand?  I know this is a personal choice.  I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better.  I have Office 2007.  Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?  My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.  I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol




need recommendation for new PC

Carol Smith
 

Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough or should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If I neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be the best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016? My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it. I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred, a decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol


Jaws error

Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...>
 

Hi all

I just had VFO installed Jaws 17 from jaws 14

All is cool and I am doing well, however when I log on or reboot or restart, the following messeage pops up but in no way does it get in the way of what I do on my computer.

I still am able to work e mails and everything else.

We have uninstalled jaws, reinstalled it, repaired it but it still pops up.

 

I currently use

Windows 7

Microsoftoffice/outlook 2010

Del desk top,64machine

Does anyone know of this?

 

jfw.exe - System Error

Sugar

 

"But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings as eagles; They shall run, and not be weary; and They shall

walk, and not faint." [Isaiah 40:31)

 

Please Support my Transplant journey at:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-God Bless you,

Sugar Lopez

 


Re: the touch cursor

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

There are only some applications in which you will want to activate the Touch Cursor. Some of them are:

1. The Windows News app
2. Windows Mail, if you use it.
3. The Weather app
4. Some dialogs in the Windows Settings dialogs.

I will post some tips about the Touch Cursor below.


Certain applications, especially many of the universal apps found in Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the Touch Cursor enables you to use the ARROW keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the elements in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Elements include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS, or SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (NUM PAD PLUS) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

Navigating With the Touch Cursor
To move to the next or previous element on the screen, press RIGHT or LEFT ARROW. You can also use TAB or SHIFT+TAB.

To move by a specific element type, press UP or DOWN ARROW. By default, the UP and DOWN ARROWS will move by regions. To change what element type these commands move by, press PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN to cycle through the available types using the navigation rotor.

For example, if you want the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to move by headings, press PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN until you hear "headings. Now, pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move to the next or previous heading.

Press CTRL+HOME to move to the first element and press CTRL+END to move to the last element. To announce the current element, press INSERT+UP ARROW. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each element, press INSERT+DOWN ARROW.

As you navigate using the ARROW keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate through elements without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing SPACEBAR or ENTER on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected element to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

To quickly move the Touch Cursor to the element that currently has focus, press INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS, or CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE if using the laptop keyboard layout. JAWS will route the Touch Cursor to the currently selected element and announce it. The Touch Cursor will remain active after performing this command.

To determine what element types will be announced as you navigate with the Touch Cursor, press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, then move to Configure Types. This group lists all available types that can be navigated to using the Touch Cursor. Use the SPACEBAR to select or clear a type. Types that are selected are announced while types that are not selected are ignored.

Note: The Configure Types option only appears in Quick Settings if the Touch Cursor is currently active when Quick Settings is opened.

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys
While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of elements, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press INSERT+Z while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

The following Navigation Quick Keys are available:

Note: You can add the SHIFT Key to any of these commands to move to the previous occurrence of that element.

A - Next radio button
B - Next button
C - Next combo box
D - Next document
E - Next edit field
F - Next form field
G - Next image
H - Next heading
I - Next list item
K - Next link
L - Next list
M - Next menu
O - Next tool bar
P - Next pane
Q - Next tab
R - Next region
S - Next occurrence of static text
T - Next table
U - Next group
V - Next tree view
X - Next check box
Z - Next status bar
Text Review
Text Review allows you to read the text contained inside an element using standard reading commands. If the element at the current Touch Cursor position has text, such as a news article, pressing NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER will activate Text Review. You can then use the ARROW keys to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the ESC key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

For example, in the News app, where the Touch Cursor is enabled by default, you could press UP or DOWN ARROW to move to the Top Stories region and then press RIGHT ARROW to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press INSERT+ENTER or NUM PAD SLASH to switch to Text Review so you can use the ARROW keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press ESC to close Text Review and then use RIGHT or LEFT ARROW to select another article from the current region, or UP or DOWN ARROW to move to a different region.

By default, JAWS will play a sound when you enter or exit Text Review mode. If you would rather have JAWS speak a message, press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and clear the Use Sounds option.

Advanced Navigation
For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all elements in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate to elements that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA elements in a hierarchical manner. All elements, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

To enable Advanced Navigation, press NUM PAD STAR, or CAPS LOCK+A if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the LEFT or RIGHT ARROW keys to move to the previous or next sibling element and the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to move to the parrent element or the first child element. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press INSERT+H while this mode is active. Press NUM PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the touch cursor

yea i'm using win 10. What's the best way to move around with it once
I activate the touch cursor?

On 11/23/17, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Are you using Windows 10? If not, your touch cursor may not work reliably.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed
Barton
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: the touch cursor

Hey guys,

Can someone describe the touch cursor? It doesn't even seem to work.
I press the key combination to activate it, but all I hear is click
click click when I arrow up and down. Any ideas? I've never used
this cursor before.










Re: How To Turn Auto-Numbering And Lettering Off In Outlook 2016

Tom Behler
 

Cathyanne:

 

It took me two tries, but I got your instructions to work.

 

And, I have saved them for future reference.

 

And you’re right;  they sure did bury the needed settings!!

 

Thanks so much for the very thorough instructions!

 

Dr.  tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Turn Auto-Numbering And Lettering Off In Outlook 2016

 

1. Open Outlook backstage (ALT-F)

2. Navigate the list of options with UP and DOWN ARROW and activate "Options" (T)

 

This opens the Outlook Options dialog. Within the dialog:

  1. Navigate the list of categories with UP and DOWN ARROW and focus on “Mail”
  2. The options for “Mail” are displayed on the right side of the dialog
  3. Navigate into the Mail options with TAB and SHIFT-TAB. Focus on "Spelling and Autocorrect"
  4. Activate the "Spelling and Autocorrect" button with SPACEBAR

 

This opens the "Editor Options" dialog

 

  1. By default, focus is on the "Proofing" options. If you want to make sure you're focused on "Proofing," use UP and DOWN ARROW
  2. When focused on “Proofing,” the proofing options are displayed on the right side of the dialog
  3. Navigate among the Proofing options with TAB and SHIFT-TAB
  4. Locate the "Autocorrect Options" button and activate it with SPACEBAR

 

This opens the Autocorrect dialog.

 

This dialog contains several property sheets. Navigate among the property sheets with CTRL-TAB and CTRL-SHIFT-TAB. The “Autoformat as you Type” property sheet is the third property sheet so you should only have to press this command twice.

 

You can make sure you're on the right property sheet by  using SHIFT-TAB until focus is on the property sheet tab. You want to make sure focus is on "Autoformat as you Type." There is also an "Autoformat" property sheet but it isn't the same.

 

when focused in the “Autoformat as you Type” property sheet, navigate among the options with TAB and SHIFT-TAB. Locate the following two options:

  • Automatic bulleted lists
  • Automatic numbered lists

 

These are checkboxes. Toggle the checkboxes on and off with SPACEBAR.

 

Activate the OK button to save the changes and close the dialog.

 

This returns focus to the Editor options dialog. Activate the "OK" button to save the changes and close the dialog. Repeat the OK button activation for the Settings dialog and you’re done!

 

They buried it a bit, didn’t’ they?

 

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 300-7859

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 9:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How To Turn Auto-Numbering And Lettering Off In Outlook 2016

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am not sure if this happened as a result of a recent update, but somehow, auto-numbering and auto-lettering has now been turned on in my Outlook 2016 e-mail program.

 

I would prefer to keep auto-numbering and lettering off if possible.

 

Can someone tell me where to find the setting to turn these features off?

 

I’m just not remembering, since it’s been a number of years since I had to do this.

 

Thanks, and happy Thanksgiving to all!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 


Re: Need some help with Outlook 2016

Portia Mason
 

Thanks. Great. Help.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Portia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some help with Outlook 2016

 

You can do this in your email account settings:

 

  1. Open Outlook backstage (ALT-F)
  2. Focus is on the “Info” category, navigate into the options with TAB and SHIFT-TAB
  3. Focus on and activate “Account Settings”
  4. This opens a drop-down list. Within the drop-down list, activate “Account Settings”

 

This opens the Account Settings dialog.

  1. Within the dialog, navigate with TAB and SHIFT-TAB until focus is on the list of email accounts
  2. Use UP and DOWN ARROW to select the account you’d like to edit
  3. Press SHIFT-TAB until you locate the “Change” button and activate it with SPACEBAR

 

This opens the settings dialog for the selected email account

  1. Locate and activate the “More Settings” button on this dialog
  2. This opens the “Internet Email Settings” dialog
  3. the first property sheet in the dialog is the “General” property sheet.
  4. The first control of the “General” property sheet is an edit field through which you can change the name of your email account
  5. Input your name and save the changes with the OK button
  6. Save the changes in the individual email account settings
  7. Activate the “Close” button of the Account settings

 

Close Outlook backstage and you’re done! The text you specified will now appear in the From field when you send email.

 

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 300-7859

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Portia Mason via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need some help with Outlook 2016

 

Ii want to change something in the from field so when I send emails it shows my name. What is the shortcut command for this? 
Portia


Re: Need some help with Outlook 2016

Portia Mason
 

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving.

Portia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some help with Outlook 2016

 

Hello,

 

Don’t believe there is a shortcut for this. You need to go into your email settings and change it there. This is the same place you were at when setting up your email to begin with unless you used the automatic setup in Outlook. You’ll find your account setting under the file tab in the ribbons I believe under info

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Portia Mason via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 8:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need some help with Outlook 2016

 

Ii want to change something in the from field so when I send emails it shows my name. What is the shortcut command for this? 
Portia


Re: Contact

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hi good people:
I have actually downloaded the extended support release 52.5, and it
is set up and running.
But I am still not able to use firefox. The bookmarks are working
normally, but when I activate a web page, it doesn't open. At the
begining, when firefox launches, I get the message that the program is
not compatible with my screen reader. So, how do I switch to ESR that
is extendede support release.
Please kindly help me understand what to do here to get the program
firefox workingg.
Thanks and kind regards.
Ibrahim.

On 11/20/17, Jonas Voll <jonas.voll@envisionus.com> wrote:
Not shure, but its one drive for business!
And this is on Active directory and exchange server in a Enterprise
business for my work!


Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the
blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation,
education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 8:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Contact

Hmm, not sure why that is, it always was as simple as opening the OneDrive
application and signing in with my Microsoft Id for me. You then have a
chance to specify a location where you want the OneDrive folder just as with
Dropbox, by default it's in your user folder, and I think that's pretty much
it.
I am quite sure if you want to set it up that Microsoft Accessibility can
easily help you with that. I have an Office 365 subscription both a Home
subscription which I share with my wife and Mom as well as a Business
Premium subscription for my business, both come with 1 Tb of storage so it
would of course be silly to pay for Dropbox Premium or whatever they call it
when I already have all the storage I could want and I would have the Office
365 subscription anyways because I need access to Outlook, Excel and
occasionally some of the other Office apps.
The Office 365 subscription is one of the best deals around considering all
it includes.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas
Voll
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 6:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Contact

I couldn't set up OneDrive at all!
Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the
blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation,
education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Contact

Yes, works fine with Jaws. Do you mean you couldn't enable screenshots or
you couldn't set up OneDrive at all?
Here is how I enable the screenshots:

1. Jaws Key+F11 to bring up the sys tray items, arrow to OneDrive and press
enter 2. Arrow down to Settings and press enter, for some reason sometimes
this just puts me back at the top of the menu and I have to arrow to
Settings a second time and press enter, then Settings opens.
3. I am always in the Account tab on "Add Account" so I do a Shift+tab to
get to the tabs and they are as follows (I use speech history from here
on):

Settings Tab Account Tab Auto Save Tab Network Tab Office Tab About Tab
Account Tab - just did a "say word" to show what has focus Auto Save Tab -
just did a right arrow to go there Now I tab and it reads the items in the
Auto Save tab, the first items, Pictures and Documents have two options,
"OneDrive" or "This PC Only"
Note, however, that I believe these options only exist with Windows 10 when
you are logged in with a Microsoft account, on my Windows 7 PC it goes
straight to the "save pictures automatically" item for when you connect a
phone or USB stick.
As you can see the last item before you get to "OK" is the checkbox for
automatically capture screenshots to OneDrive.
Desktop, Documents and Pictures Pictures Combo box This PC only
2 of 2
Desktop, Documents and Pictures Combo box Documents This PC only
2 of 2
Photos and videos Automatically save photos and videos to OneDrive whenever
I connect a camera, phone, or other device to my PC check box not checked
Screenshots Automatically save screenshots I capture to OneDrive check box
checked OK Button


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas
Voll
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 5:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Contact

I was not able to get OneDrive Working was you able to sett it up using
Jaws?
I have an Microsoft account!
Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the
blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation,
education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 6:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Contact

If you use either Dropbox or OneDrive then the easiest way is to enable
screenshots in one of those services. Then simply pressing PrintScreen will
take a screenshot and save it to a folder of your choosing as a PNG file.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ibrahim
Ajayi
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 8:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Contact

Hi good people:
I joined the group not too long ago, but I've not been posting.
I sent a post two days ago, wanting to know if anyone had solutions to the
problem I am having with my web browser firefox and JAWS. From the
responses I read to other people's posts, I learnt that the problem is a
general problem. It is a problem that appears to defy solutions for now.
I have new issues, which I will like fellow members to please kindly help me
address.
I am having problems with screenshots. When I do a screenshot of a web page
using the print screen key on my laptop, and copy and paste it into the
pint submenu, and subsequently send it, I am informed by the receipient that
the screenshot is not visible. I've tried it several times, and the problem
remains the same. I use firefox with it. I also use JAWS 16.
Please how can I fix this problem of screenshots not being visible.
What can I do to make the screenshots visible.
Added to this, does anyone use snagit from techsmith? how is it used to do a
screenshot of a webpage.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps.
I am Ibrahim Ajayi.







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Re: the touch cursor

Mario
 

just to clear up some confusion you may have, that which JAWS calls
touch cursor is primarily what others would call object navigation. In
other words, instead of physically navigating the screen with a mouse,
or emulation thereof, you navigate the screen by objects. The use with
touch screens is also possible, but it's mainly a navigation feature for
operating systems where the JAWS cursor does not provide info anymore,
or where other methods of hooking into the system to expose
accessibility info must be used instead.

any comments, anybody?

------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@live.ca]
Sent: Thursday, Nov 23, 2017 4:23 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: the touch cursor

You move with left and right arrows, up and down arrows change the
element you move by similar to turning the rotor in iOS and then swiping.
Did you know that Jaws has built-in help topics?
Just press Jaws Key+J to bring up the Jaws menu, go to Help and expand
it, go to Help Topics and press enter.
You can read the topic "About Jaws cursors" in the Introduction Book, if
it's not open expand it with right arrow, then arrow to "About Jaws
cursors", press enter on it and then F6 to jump into the reading screen
where you can read the explanations.
For more details use F6 again to jump back to the table of content, find
the "Using Jaws Book" and expand it, now go down to the "About Jaws
Cursors Book", expand it and go to the "Using the Touch Cursor" topic.
Again press enter and then F6 and read the information.
If you haven't spend time in these Help Topics I highly recommend you
look through all the books and topics, there is a ton of information
there and often very good explanations about how certain features of
Jaws work.
The only keystrokes you really need are the right arrow, down arrow,
enter and F6.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the touch cursor

yea i'm using win 10. What's the best way to move around with it once I
activate the touch cursor?

On 11/23/17, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Are you using Windows 10? If not, your touch cursor may not work reliably.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed
Barton
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: the touch cursor

Hey guys,

Can someone describe the touch cursor? It doesn't even seem to work.
I press the key combination to activate it, but all I hear is click
click click when I arrow up and down. Any ideas? I've never used
this cursor before.


Re: the touch cursor

 

You move with left and right arrows, up and down arrows change the element you move by similar to turning the rotor in iOS and then swiping.
Did you know that Jaws has built-in help topics?
Just press Jaws Key+J to bring up the Jaws menu, go to Help and expand it, go to Help Topics and press enter.
You can read the topic "About Jaws cursors" in the Introduction Book, if it's not open expand it with right arrow, then arrow to "About Jaws cursors", press enter on it and then F6 to jump into the reading screen where you can read the explanations.
For more details use F6 again to jump back to the table of content, find the "Using Jaws Book" and expand it, now go down to the "About Jaws Cursors Book", expand it and go to the "Using the Touch Cursor" topic.
Again press enter and then F6 and read the information.
If you haven't spend time in these Help Topics I highly recommend you look through all the books and topics, there is a ton of information there and often very good explanations about how certain features of Jaws work.
The only keystrokes you really need are the right arrow, down arrow, enter and F6.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the touch cursor

yea i'm using win 10. What's the best way to move around with it once I activate the touch cursor?

On 11/23/17, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Are you using Windows 10? If not, your touch cursor may not work reliably.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed
Barton
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: the touch cursor

Hey guys,

Can someone describe the touch cursor? It doesn't even seem to work.
I press the key combination to activate it, but all I hear is click
click click when I arrow up and down. Any ideas? I've never used
this cursor before.










Re: the touch cursor

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

yea i'm using win 10. What's the best way to move around with it once
I activate the touch cursor?

On 11/23/17, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Are you using Windows 10? If not, your touch cursor may not work reliably.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed
Barton
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: the touch cursor

Hey guys,

Can someone describe the touch cursor? It doesn't even seem to work.
I press the key combination to activate it, but all I hear is click
click click when I arrow up and down. Any ideas? I've never used
this cursor before.










Re: Jaws 2018 goes silent at PIN log-in

Alan Robbins
 

For some odd reason, I do not experience this problem. Read the article you referenced below but did not change anything as all seems to be working ok. Only time I may have seen this is when I was remotely connected with Microsoft accessibility. When the agent rebooted my machine she said to type in my pin and I said I was not at the log in screen yet as I had not heard JAWS. She said I was at the log in screen and it was waiting for my pin. I just assumed this had to do with being remotely connected but maybe it is the problem you speak of below. However, this is the only time it happened.

Best,
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Gurd via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 1:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 goes silent at PIN log-in

I found a technical support notice on the FreedomScientific website about the Jaws issue I described some days ago. There is hoped to be a fix in the next update release. In the meantime there is a work-around (see the link below).

John

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1662

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: 19 November 2017 19:05
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 goes silent at PIN log-in

I experience the same thing, I get the usual jaws startup message and then nothing. If I use password login jaws works fine.

On 11/19/17, John Gurd via Groups.Io <j.gurd=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes, that was the first thing I checked. It is set to load at the
logon screen. I think it may not be scripted for the Windows Fall
Edition PIN login. That's why I'd like to hear from anyone using the same login.



John

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: 19 November 2017 17:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 goes silent at PIN log-in



John,



Not a Win 10 expert, but check your JAWS options under the startup.
Make sure it is set to start up after logon for all users or
specifically for you.



Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer





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From: John Gurd via Groups.Io <mailto:j.gurd=ntlworld.com@groups.io>

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 09:52

Subject: Jaws 2018 goes silent at PIN log-in



I just updated to Windows 10 Fall edition. Now when I turn my PC on
Jaws
2018 speaks some background activity at the PIN log-in prompt and then
goes silent. I have to load Narrator to enter my PIN and Jaws comes
back to life.
Also it doesn't show up in the system tray and pressing JawsKey-J does
not work. If I unload Jaws and restart it again it works fine. The
same thing happens with my laptop. Is anyone else experiencing this
with the PIN login in particular?



John






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Re: Need some help with Outlook 2016

CathyAnne Murtha
 

You can do this in your email account settings:

 

  1. Open Outlook backstage (ALT-F)
  2. Focus is on the “Info” category, navigate into the options with TAB and SHIFT-TAB
  3. Focus on and activate “Account Settings”
  4. This opens a drop-down list. Within the drop-down list, activate “Account Settings”

 

This opens the Account Settings dialog.

  1. Within the dialog, navigate with TAB and SHIFT-TAB until focus is on the list of email accounts
  2. Use UP and DOWN ARROW to select the account you’d like to edit
  3. Press SHIFT-TAB until you locate the “Change” button and activate it with SPACEBAR

 

This opens the settings dialog for the selected email account

  1. Locate and activate the “More Settings” button on this dialog
  2. This opens the “Internet Email Settings” dialog
  3. the first property sheet in the dialog is the “General” property sheet.
  4. The first control of the “General” property sheet is an edit field through which you can change the name of your email account
  5. Input your name and save the changes with the OK button
  6. Save the changes in the individual email account settings
  7. Activate the “Close” button of the Account settings

 

Close Outlook backstage and you’re done! The text you specified will now appear in the From field when you send email.

 

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 300-7859

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Portia Mason via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need some help with Outlook 2016

 

Ii want to change something in the from field so when I send emails it shows my name. What is the shortcut command for this? 
Portia