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I have actually downloaded the extended support release 52.5, and it is set up and running. But I am still not able to use firefox. The bookmarks are working normally, but when I activate a web page, it doesn't open. At the begining, when firefox launches, I get the message that the program is not compatible with my screen reader. So, how do I switch to ESR that is extendede support release. Please kindly help me understand what to do here to get the program firefox workingg. Thanks and kind regards. Ibrahim. On 11/20/17, Jonas Voll <jonas.voll@...> wrote:
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Re: the touch cursor
Mario
just to clear up some confusion you may have, that which JAWS calls
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touch cursor is primarily what others would call object navigation. In other words, instead of physically navigating the screen with a mouse, or emulation thereof, you navigate the screen by objects. The use with touch screens is also possible, but it's mainly a navigation feature for operating systems where the JAWS cursor does not provide info anymore, or where other methods of hooking into the system to expose accessibility info must be used instead. any comments, anybody? ------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@...] Sent: Thursday, Nov 23, 2017 4:23 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: the touch cursor You move with left and right arrows, up and down arrows change the element you move by similar to turning the rotor in iOS and then swiping. Did you know that Jaws has built-in help topics? Just press Jaws Key+J to bring up the Jaws menu, go to Help and expand it, go to Help Topics and press enter. You can read the topic "About Jaws cursors" in the Introduction Book, if it's not open expand it with right arrow, then arrow to "About Jaws cursors", press enter on it and then F6 to jump into the reading screen where you can read the explanations. For more details use F6 again to jump back to the table of content, find the "Using Jaws Book" and expand it, now go down to the "About Jaws Cursors Book", expand it and go to the "Using the Touch Cursor" topic. Again press enter and then F6 and read the information. If you haven't spend time in these Help Topics I highly recommend you look through all the books and topics, there is a ton of information there and often very good explanations about how certain features of Jaws work. The only keystrokes you really need are the right arrow, down arrow, enter and F6. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the touch cursor yea i'm using win 10. What's the best way to move around with it once I activate the touch cursor? On 11/23/17, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote: Are you using Windows 10? If not, your touch cursor may not work reliably. Bill White Billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: the touch cursor Hey guys, Can someone describe the touch cursor? It doesn't even seem to work. I press the key combination to activate it, but all I hear is click click click when I arrow up and down. Any ideas? I've never used this cursor before. |
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Re: the touch cursor
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
You move with left and right arrows, up and down arrows change the element you move by similar to turning the rotor in iOS and then swiping.
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Did you know that Jaws has built-in help topics? Just press Jaws Key+J to bring up the Jaws menu, go to Help and expand it, go to Help Topics and press enter. You can read the topic "About Jaws cursors" in the Introduction Book, if it's not open expand it with right arrow, then arrow to "About Jaws cursors", press enter on it and then F6 to jump into the reading screen where you can read the explanations. For more details use F6 again to jump back to the table of content, find the "Using Jaws Book" and expand it, now go down to the "About Jaws Cursors Book", expand it and go to the "Using the Touch Cursor" topic. Again press enter and then F6 and read the information. If you haven't spend time in these Help Topics I highly recommend you look through all the books and topics, there is a ton of information there and often very good explanations about how certain features of Jaws work. The only keystrokes you really need are the right arrow, down arrow, enter and F6. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the touch cursor yea i'm using win 10. What's the best way to move around with it once I activate the touch cursor? On 11/23/17, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote: Are you using Windows 10? If not, your touch cursor may not work reliably. |
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Re: the touch cursor
Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
yea i'm using win 10. What's the best way to move around with it once
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I activate the touch cursor? On 11/23/17, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Are you using Windows 10? If not, your touch cursor may not work reliably. |
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Re: Jaws 2018 goes silent at PIN log-in
Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
For some odd reason, I do not experience this problem. Read the article you referenced below but did not change anything as all seems to be working ok. Only time I may have seen this is when I was remotely connected with Microsoft accessibility. When the agent rebooted my machine she said to type in my pin and I said I was not at the log in screen yet as I had not heard JAWS. She said I was at the log in screen and it was waiting for my pin. I just assumed this had to do with being remotely connected but maybe it is the problem you speak of below. However, this is the only time it happened.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Gurd via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 1:24 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 goes silent at PIN log-in I found a technical support notice on the FreedomScientific website about the Jaws issue I described some days ago. There is hoped to be a fix in the next update release. In the meantime there is a work-around (see the link below). John http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1662 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: 19 November 2017 19:05 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 goes silent at PIN log-in I experience the same thing, I get the usual jaws startup message and then nothing. If I use password login jaws works fine. On 11/19/17, John Gurd via Groups.Io <j.gurd@...> wrote: Yes, that was the first thing I checked. It is set to load at the -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@... |
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Re: Need some help with Outlook 2016
CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@...>
You can do this in your email account settings:
This opens the Account Settings dialog.
This opens the settings dialog for the selected email account
Close Outlook backstage and you’re done! The text you specified will now appear in the From field when you send email.
CathyAnne
CathyAnne Murtha Access Technology Institute, LLC (520) 300-7859
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Portia Mason via Groups.Io
Ii want to change something in the from field so when I send emails it shows my name. What is the shortcut command for this? |
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Re: How To Turn Auto-Numbering And Lettering Off In Outlook 2016
CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@...>
1. Open Outlook backstage (ALT-F) 2. Navigate the list of options with UP and DOWN ARROW and activate "Options" (T)
This opens the Outlook Options dialog. Within the dialog:
This opens the "Editor Options" dialog
This opens the Autocorrect dialog.
This dialog contains several property sheets. Navigate among the property sheets with CTRL-TAB and CTRL-SHIFT-TAB. The “Autoformat as you Type” property sheet is the third property sheet so you should only have to press this command twice.
You can make sure you're on the right property sheet by using SHIFT-TAB until focus is on the property sheet tab. You want to make sure focus is on "Autoformat as you Type." There is also an "Autoformat" property sheet but it isn't the same.
when focused in the “Autoformat as you Type” property sheet, navigate among the options with TAB and SHIFT-TAB. Locate the following two options:
These are checkboxes. Toggle the checkboxes on and off with SPACEBAR.
Activate the OK button to save the changes and close the dialog.
This returns focus to the Editor options dialog. Activate the "OK" button to save the changes and close the dialog. Repeat the OK button activation for the Settings dialog and you’re done!
They buried it a bit, didn’t’ they?
CathyAnne
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 9:46 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: How To Turn Auto-Numbering And Lettering Off In Outlook 2016
Hello, everyone.
I am not sure if this happened as a result of a recent update, but somehow, auto-numbering and auto-lettering has now been turned on in my Outlook 2016 e-mail program.
I would prefer to keep auto-numbering and lettering off if possible.
Can someone tell me where to find the setting to turn these features off?
I’m just not remembering, since it’s been a number of years since I had to do this.
Thanks, and happy Thanksgiving to all!
Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan
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Re: Jaws 2018 goes silent at PIN log-in
John Gurd
I found a technical support notice on the FreedomScientific website about the Jaws issue I described some days ago. There is hoped to be a fix in the next update release. In the meantime there is a work-around (see the link below).
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John http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1662 -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: 19 November 2017 19:05 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 goes silent at PIN log-in I experience the same thing, I get the usual jaws startup message and then nothing. If I use password login jaws works fine. On 11/19/17, John Gurd via Groups.Io <j.gurd@...> wrote: Yes, that was the first thing I checked. It is set to load at the -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@... |
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Re: the touch cursor
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Are you using Windows 10? If not, your touch cursor may not work reliably.
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Bill White Billwhite92701@... -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: the touch cursor Hey guys, Can someone describe the touch cursor? It doesn't even seem to work. I press the key combination to activate it, but all I hear is click click click when I arrow up and down. Any ideas? I've never used this cursor before. |
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the touch cursor
Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
Hey guys,
Can someone describe the touch cursor? It doesn't even seem to work. I press the key combination to activate it, but all I hear is click click click when I arrow up and down. Any ideas? I've never used this cursor before. |
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How To Turn Auto-Numbering And Lettering Off In Outlook 2016
Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.
I am not sure if this happened as a result of a recent update, but somehow, auto-numbering and auto-lettering has now been turned on in my Outlook 2016 e-mail program.
I would prefer to keep auto-numbering and lettering off if possible.
Can someone tell me where to find the setting to turn these features off?
I’m just not remembering, since it’s been a number of years since I had to do this.
Thanks, and happy Thanksgiving to all!
Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan
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Re: Creating accessible, fillable PDFs?
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Hi Joanne, I live in Portland. I can confirm the document is not accessible. Have you heard of the Easi.cc website? They host lots of webinars, some paid and some free. I know they have done them on creating accessible PDF fillable forms. Check it out at:
HTH, Richard
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Johnson, Joanne
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 9:42 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Creating accessible, fillable PDFs?
Hi Everyone,
I am having a lot of trouble making this fillable PDF accessible. (Both attached and at this link: https://www.portlandoregon.gov/oni/article/661427 )
I’ve added tooltips to the form fields, tagged the text, and adjusted the reading But when I run the accessibility checker, it does show *something *is off. it asks me to “caption” an “image” and it’s referring to all of page one!
I’m wondering if I tagged something incorrectly or the file size is somehow beyond the capacity of JAWs (which seems unlikely).
Do you have any ideas about what went wrong or how to make it right?
Also, we are hoping to find a company who can create accessible documents and forms so that we know they are accessible the first time, every time. Does anyone have any suggestions for companies that do good work?
We would especially love to use an organization that prioritizes the lived experience of people who need/use assistive technology and one located in or near Portland, Oregon. But we’re open to any suggestions.
Joanne
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Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Hi Debbie,
Maybe this is different in Office/Outlook 2010, but in the current 2016 version pressing first Alt when focus is on an attachment and then down arrow does what you say, however, it puts you into the “actions” and I have to arrow to the right to get to things like quick print, Save As, Save all attachments etc. If I use Alt+Down Arrow as a single key combination as in pressing and holding Alt then pressing the down arrow, it opens into more of a context menu and I can down arrow to get to all these options, also doing it this way Jaws doesnot speak all the ribbon shortcuts. Like I said it could be different between these two versions of Office.
Regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 5:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?
Hi All,
I could be completely off here, but whoever is having problems getting the alt + down arrow to work, make sure you are pressing alt and then down arrow. The alt puts you on the attachment tab on the wonderful ribbon, and the down arrow puts you on the attachment menu/choices. It does work in Microsoft 2010. That is what I have on this computer.
Have a great day everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the U.S.
Debby
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main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Hi Steve,
Thanks for this trick, much cleaner now.
All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Steve Griffiths
Hi Shannon,
I've come across the problem with accessing multiple attachments before, and was able to get around it by turning off a setting in Outlook called Attachment Preview.
Go to the Options dialogue with Alt, F, T.
Press T until you're on Trust Center, then Alt + T to open a second dialogue.
UpArrow once to Attachment Handling, and then Tab to a checkbox labelled Turn Off Attachment Preview and check it.
OK out of both dialogues.
Does that make a difference?
Steve 🐾
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Shannon
Bill, Dave Tony, George. Something is wrong here. I have an email that has seven attachments. Only one of them is the one I need. There are 6 junk attachments that are jpegs of some signature cards, a couple of html copies of previous messages and one is the pdf I am looking for. I can’t arrow across or up or down past the second one. I keep getting stuck and Jaws says focus lost. I don’t want to have to save all the junk onto my system only to have to print it and sign and re-scan. This is not the first time this has happened to me. Even when there is only one real attachment Jaws announces that there are two when I alt tab into the attachments field. Anyone know why it would be behaving like this? Outlook 2010 and Jaws 18 and or Jaws 2018. Thanks Shannon From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Shannon. I use Windows 10 with JAWS 2018. I am having no trouble reading multiple attachments with Outlook 2010. I do the following.
1. Open Outlook2010. 2. Shift TAB to the attachments list. 3. Use Right and Left Arrows to advance or go backward through the attachments list. 4. Press ALT + F, followed by M to save attachments. 5. Follow the prompts to save. Then press the OK dialog. This should save all attachments in the message.
Bill White
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main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Shannon
Hi all, 0I know that I can alt tab from the top of the message into the attachments field but when there are multiple attachments to a message. Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018 are having problem s arrowing to the other items in the list. What is the trick? Insert A does not get me into the attachments list as the help says it will. So what do I do?
Thanks Shannon
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Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?
Debby Hill
Hi All,
I could be completely off here, but whoever is having problems getting the alt + down arrow to work, make sure you are pressing alt and then down arrow. The alt puts you on the attachment tab on the wonderful ribbon, and the down arrow puts you on the attachment menu/choices. It does work in Microsoft 2010. That is what I have on this computer.
Have a great day everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the U.S.
Debby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?
Hi Steve,
Thanks for this trick, much cleaner now.
All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Griffiths
Hi Shannon,
I've come across the problem with accessing multiple attachments before, and was able to get around it by turning off a setting in Outlook called Attachment Preview.
Go to the Options dialogue with Alt, F, T.
Press T until you're on Trust Center, then Alt + T to open a second dialogue.
UpArrow once to Attachment Handling, and then Tab to a checkbox labelled Turn Off Attachment Preview and check it.
OK out of both dialogues.
Does that make a difference?
Steve 🐾
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Bill, Dave Tony, George. Something is wrong here. I have an email that has seven attachments. Only one of them is the one I need. There are 6 junk attachments that are jpegs of some signature cards, a couple of html copies of previous messages and one is the pdf I am looking for. I can’t arrow across or up or down past the second one. I keep getting stuck and Jaws says focus lost. I don’t want to have to save all the junk onto my system only to have to print it and sign and re-scan. This is not the first time this has happened to me. Even when there is only one real attachment Jaws announces that there are two when I alt tab into the attachments field. Anyone know why it would be behaving like this? Outlook 2010 and Jaws 18 and or Jaws 2018. Thanks Shannon From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Shannon. I use Windows 10 with JAWS 2018. I am having no trouble reading multiple attachments with Outlook 2010. I do the following.
1. Open Outlook2010. 2. Shift TAB to the attachments list. 3. Use Right and Left Arrows to advance or go backward through the attachments list. 4. Press ALT + F, followed by M to save attachments. 5. Follow the prompts to save. Then press the OK dialog. This should save all attachments in the message.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Hi all, 0I know that I can alt tab from the top of the message into the attachments field but when there are multiple attachments to a message. Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018 are having problem s arrowing to the other items in the list. What is the trick? Insert A does not get me into the attachments list as the help says it will. So what do I do?
Thanks Shannon
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Re: Need some help with Outlook 2016
Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
Hello,
Don’t believe there is a shortcut for this. You need to go into your email settings and change it there. This is the same place you were at when setting up your email to begin with unless you used the automatic setup in Outlook. You’ll find your account setting under the file tab in the ribbons I believe under info
Al
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Portia Mason via Groups.Io
Ii want to change something in the from field so when I send emails it shows my name. What is the shortcut command for this? |
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Re: changing to date modified with windows 7 and jaws 18
CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@...>
If you’re in File Explorer, you can change the sorting in the View Ribbon:
The drop-down list closes and the documents are sorted by the selected criteria.
CathyAnne
CathyAnne Murtha Access Technology Institute, LLC (520) 300-7859
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: changing to date modified with windows 7 and jaws 18
Hi, I want to change the files in my documents to show as date modified rather than folder. How is this done? Thanks. |
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Re: clickable elements on a page not working (Rollback Firefox Suggestion)
CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@...>
If you upgraded to Firefox Quantum (the latest version), it isn't yet supported by JAWS.
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You can download and install the previous accessible version. To download the accessible version of Firefox, you can use the links below. They are for the US English version of the browser. If you want to download an International version, I've provided another link below the US English links. Windows 64 bit: https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest-ssl&os=win64&lang=en-US Windows 32 bit: https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest-ssl&os=win&lang=en-US Find this version of Firefox in all languages at: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/ If you rollback Firefox, you'll have your familiar interface. CathyAnne CathyAnne Murtha Access Technology Institute, LLC cathy@... www.blind.training (520) 300-7859 -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: clickable elements on a page not working Hey guys, OK, not sure what to make of this. I am using the latest jfw and firefox. I am on a webpage, and there are all kinds of buttons that say clickable. When i press enter on them, nothing changes on the web page. Any ideas how to interact with these buttons? I've tried pressing enter, nothing. I routed jaws to PC and done a left mouse click, nothing. Any ideas guys? |
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Creating accessible, fillable PDFs?
Johnson, Joanne
Hi Everyone,
I am having a lot of trouble making this fillable PDF accessible. (Both attached and at this link: https://www.portlandoregon.gov/oni/article/661427 )
I’ve added tooltips to the form fields, tagged the text, and adjusted the reading But when I run the accessibility checker, it does show *something *is off. it asks me to “caption” an “image” and it’s referring to all of page one!
I’m wondering if I tagged something incorrectly or the file size is somehow beyond the capacity of JAWs (which seems unlikely).
Do you have any ideas about what went wrong or how to make it right?
Also, we are hoping to find a company who can create accessible documents and forms so that we know they are accessible the first time, every time. Does anyone have any suggestions for companies that do good work?
We would especially love to use an organization that prioritizes the lived experience of people who need/use assistive technology and one located in or near Portland, Oregon. But we’re open to any suggestions.
Joanne
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Re: Anyone tried and had success with Instacart?
Juanita
I found that it wasn’t very accessible on the PC, but that it was more so on the iPhone. I’ve ordered from CostCo several times and had good results.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 8:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Anyone tried and had success with Instacart?
I found myself lacking a few things for my contribution to Thanks Giving. I thought I would order from Instacart and have the missing items delivered to me at work so I had them when I go home. What an ordeal! The web page was only navigable with the tab key. None of the quick nav keys worked. It kept edititing the search field when I tried. I couldn’t seam to get the buffer to come back. I tried it with Chrome, IE, and Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018. I have auto forms mode turned off and it is set to manual. The escape key would not do anything to allow me to read the page. You have to tab your self silly! And when you press on the very verbosely labelled button for add, a window popps up with the picture of the item. You have to get that closed to move on. Don’t hit alt f4 because it closes the browser. Has anyone used this with success? I was getting so frustrated I asked for help to finish. Is it just me or is that site built badlly? Is there a trick? I thought this might be a really nice and convenient thing but if it is that hard to do, no way!! I tried it on the iphone with the app and it was also horrible. Thanks Shannon |
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Re: getting to bookmarks in Firefox
netbat66
if you just want to get to the bookmark list after it goes to the search box then press tab to change to the list.
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From: Bill White Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 7:20 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: getting to bookmarks in Firefox Control plus I takes you to a search box, you may need to arrow up and down to get the automatic form field option to kick in. Bill White Billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: getting to bookmarks in Firefox control i does nothing in firefox. I tried it, and it said nothing. On 11/22/17, netbat66 <netbat66@...> wrote: try control i |
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