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Re: financing for jaws

James Malone
 

FYI, if your running Jaws Pro, depending on if you purchased a SMA you will pay $220 for the next two upgrades. Add the cost of Jaws on top of that SMA. For Jaws home users, the SMA is $120.00 and you will have to add the cost of Jaws on top if you don't have a copy. I was told you can have three activations to run on three machines...Has this changed?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws

Did I miss something? When I talked to Freedom they told me I could use my copy of JAWS on as many devices as I wanted providing I owned the device, I E, lap top or desktop.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: November 18, 2017 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws

Hello Jenni and everyone,

We were told the same thing. IN our case the cost would be around $400.00 per computer. Since there are two of us who use Jaws on multiple devices we need two copies so it's double what you were quoted.

Peter Donahue who along with wife Mary embraced various income-producing vehicles to keep up with the cost of buying and maintaining assistive technology.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenni Kent
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws

for both the upgrade and the sma its going to be $360 thats what they told me.


On 11/17/2017 6:42 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
It should only cost you 120.00. 240.00 at most.
On 11/17/2017 4:38 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:
no i am on jaws 17


On 11/17/2017 4:40 PM, netbat66 wrote:
what version are you on now?
are you saying you are 6 upgrades behind?
a s m a is $200 for two pro jaws upgrades.
$120 for two home jaws upgrades.
check here.
https://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal


-----Original Message----- From: Jenni Kent
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: financing for jaws

Hi,

I am trying to upgrade my jaws and get an sma I live in Iowa In
Missouri there was the tap-i program that paid for assistive tech
for you every few years so you could access the internet. Now I am
stuck because I need this and don't know a way to get it i wish fs
had a payment plan for jfw so people could pay for jaws and an sma I
could do that but this six hundred bucks all at once crap is
rediculous.










Re: financing for jaws

Jessica R.
 

If you feel comfortable with this option, you could approach the Lions Club in your area...
Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws

Then there are credit cards too.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 6:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws

I have a full time job and use my wages to buy the technology I want and need. If I can’t afford something now, I save money and buy it later. Jenny, are you working?

Kelly
I have a full time job and use my wages to buy the technology I want and need. If I can’t afford something now, I save money and buy it later. Jenny, are you working?

Kelly


On 11/17/17, netbat66 <netbat66@gmail.com> wrote:
what version are you on now?
are you saying you are 6 upgrades behind?
a s m a is $200 for two pro jaws upgrades.
$120 for two home jaws upgrades.
check here.
https://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal


-----Original Message-----
From: Jenni Kent
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: financing for jaws

Hi,

I am trying to upgrade my jaws and get an sma I live in Iowa In
Missouri there was the tap-i program that paid for assistive tech for
you every few years so you could access the internet. Now I am stuck
because I need this and don't know a way to get it i wish fs had a
payment plan for jfw so people could pay for jaws and an sma I could
do that but this six hundred bucks all at once crap is rediculous.









Re: Crowd Funding

Jessica R.
 

Hi:
     With croud funding the website usually takes a percentage (usually fairly small).  I used Go Fund Me to raise the money needed to purchase a BrailleNote Touch; I was able to raise what I needed in four weeks!  You do have to put your amount slightly above what you actually need to account for the percentage the site takes.  However, if you receive donations in hand you keep it all, even if you report it on your campaign.  Hope this helps!
Jessica
 
 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: Crowd Funding
 
Hi Peter,
 
I'm all for donating to & for people that truly need help, but this Crowd Funding thing you speak of is something I've never heard of, & that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but it only means I've never heard anything about it!  Who runs it?  Who manages the donations?  Does 100% of the donations go to the intended, or do they take a percentage off the top to cover costs, & is that info divulged?  I've only asked a few questions, but you see my point.  I personally am sick of donating  to organizations that say that they will do this & that, but when it all comes down to it most of the money is eaten up by bullshit!
 
You said:
"If anyone wants to start calling widely used means of raising funds for personal or business matters begging watch your
step with us! Otherwise you will be asked to cover the cost of buying my wife's El Braille 40 when it comes out and upgrading our versions of Jaws. End quote.
 
Intimidating people with this kind of dumb ass threat isn't going to put people in your corner!  What are you going to do, use donated funds to sue people?!
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!

Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 7:44 PM
Subject: Crowd Funding

Good evening everyone,

CrowdFunding is widely used throughout many segments of society including those who are employed. It is not a form of begging and is not promoted as such. Rather it could be used as a way to raise public awareness of the existence of assistive technology and what users of this technology must do to cover the cost of keeping it up.

If folks can use crowd funding to raise money for needed surgery and treatments, funding to achieve educational and vocational goals and for many other purposes why not tap into this means of creating revenue to cover the cost of buying and maintaining assistive technology. Large corporations also use crowd funding to start and grow their existing business ventures or to start new ones. No one calls them beggars.

I used to hear this kind of garbage when I was a street performer. Those making such statements about this occupation are either dead, still broke and living on public assistance, or had to move back in with mmom and dad. Mary and I tapped into various means to raise funding for the things we need without going to voke rehab or some other public assistance program and are closer to achieving financial independence. If anyone wants to start calling widely used means of raising funds for personal or business matters begging watch your step with us! Otherwise you will be asked to cover the cost of buying my wife's El Braille 40 when it comes out and upgrading our versions of Jaws. Now let's tap the crowd to raise the needed funds for keeping our assistive technology and to raise awareness of how it can benefit those with disabilities including the blind. All the best.

Peter Donahue



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 5:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws, Why Not CrowdFunding?

Another way besides begging to raise needed funds is to find a job or start a small business.  Computers and the Internet enable many to work at home.

Kelly
Another way besides begging to raise needed funds is to find a job or start a small business.  Computers and the Internet enable many to work at home.

Kelly




On 11/17/17, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2@...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We're dealing with the same situation here. Perhaps it's time some of
> us tried CrowdFunding as a way to raise needed funds to cover these expenses.
> People raise funds for all kinds of personal and corporate projects
> and individual needs this way. It's time we tapped the power of the
> crowd to help us cover the cost of buying and upgrading assistive
> technology as an alternative to voke rehab and other public funding
> sources. We plan to launch our own crowdfunding site to upgrade our
> assistive technology by year's end. If someone beats us to it that's wonderful! All the best.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Jenni Kent
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 3:21 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: financing for jaws
>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to upgrade my jaws and get an sma I live in Iowa In
> Missouri there was the tap-i program that paid for assistive tech for
> you every few years so you could access the internet. Now I am stuck
> because I need this and don't know a way to get it i wish fs had a
> payment plan for jfw so people could pay for jaws and an sma I could
> do that but this six hundred bucks all at once crap is rediculous.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>







Re: JAWS 2018 QUESTION

 

Your message just has your name in it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 12:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 QUESTION


Shirley Tracy

---- Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

=============
Hi Shirley,

One feature I love about Jaws 2018 is the fact that I can now recognize any image file with ?Convenient OCR, it is no longer just PDF files which have to be open in Acrobat Reader. Now if you have a Jpg or tif file you just right click on the file in Windows explorer and choose "Recognize with Jaws" from the context menu.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 7:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 QUESTION

No. Your JAWS 18 is already compatible with Windows 10, so installing JAWS
2018 now will not affect that process. BTW the JAWS 2018 on the FS web site download page is already one version higher than your DVD. You could just as well put away that DVD for archival purposes and just download the latest JAWS 2018 to install.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Shirley Tracy" <stracy5@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 06:54
Subject: JAWS 2018 QUESTION


Hi everyone,

I just received my JAWS 2018 disk. I'm running Windows 7, and currently I am using JAWS 18. Are there any benefits to installing the new disk as opposed to just waiting until I eventually go to Windows 10?

Thank you for your opinions.

Shirley


Re: JAWS 2018 QUESTION

Shirley Tracy
 

Shirley Tracy

---- Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

=============
Hi Shirley,

One feature I love about Jaws 2018 is the fact that I can now recognize any image file with ?Convenient OCR, it is no longer just PDF files which have to be open in Acrobat Reader. Now if you have a Jpg or tif file you just right click on the file in Windows explorer and choose "Recognize with Jaws" from the context menu.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 7:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 QUESTION

No. Your JAWS 18 is already compatible with Windows 10, so installing JAWS
2018 now will not affect that process. BTW the JAWS 2018 on the FS web site download page is already one version higher than your DVD. You could just as well put away that DVD for archival purposes and just download the latest JAWS 2018 to install.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Shirley Tracy" <stracy5@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 06:54
Subject: JAWS 2018 QUESTION


Hi everyone,

I just received my JAWS 2018 disk. I'm running Windows 7, and currently I am
using JAWS 18. Are there any benefits to installing the new disk as opposed
to just waiting until I eventually go to Windows 10?

Thank you for your opinions.

Shirley


Re: ePub editor that works with Jaws 2018 or Jaws 18

Richard Turner
 

I have no issue with reading them, I want the title to show up as something other than “Unknown.”

So, I need an editor, not a reader.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ePub editor that works with Jaws 2018 or Jaws 18

 

If you are using Windows 10, the Edge browser now reads epub files. I have done it with JAWS 2018.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ePub editor that works with Jaws 2018 or Jaws 18

 

I am looking for an accessible ePub editor.

I have converted some documents to ePub but I can’t get the title and author to show up correctly.

 

I use Codex for the conversion from either Word or HTML.

 

Any suggestions would be welcome.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


Re: Crowd Funding

 

If you haven't heard about crowdfunding you must not listen to the news, there is always somebody who does it to cover, as Peter said, expenses for a medical procedure, a funeral because maybe the primary earner of a family with kids died or got killed etc. Unfortunately you also often hear about people who think society is responsible to fund their education or their travels around the world and occasionally you hear of people who use natural disasters and the good will of others to raise money for themselves by pretending they have lost everything during a hurricane, wild fire etc.
Then of course there are sites like Kickstarter or Indiegogo which are exclusively dedicated for raising funds for a service or product.
One of the most popular for personal crowdfunding is probably GoFundMe.com and yes, these sites to of course charge some percentage or fee for use of their site/platform.
Maybe I was raised differently, but I couldn't do this at all, either I can afford to buy something or I can't, if I want it bad enough I work hard and save so I can afford it.
Anyhow, I think Peter made his point and some of us responded and made theirs and we should probably conclude this thread since it has precious little to do with the Jaws list except that Peter is trying to raise money for his and his wife's hardware and software purchases. I hope you remember to declare your future crowdfunding income with the IRS since it may be considered income and therefore is subject to income tax.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Crowd Funding

I do know of a woman in California, who has used Crowd Funding to raise money for her Mom and sister in Houston, whose house was flooded in Hurricane Harvey. I am guessing that a special account has to be set up for the purpose, probably with a tax number, but since I have not had that particular business experience I do not know the details associated with it.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 1:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Crowd Funding

Hi Peter,

I'm all for donating to & for people that truly need help, but this Crowd Funding thing you speak of is something I've never heard of, & that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but it only means I've never heard anything about it! Who runs it? Who manages the donations? Does 100% of the donations go to the intended, or do they take a percentage off the top to cover costs, & is that info divulged? I've only asked a few questions, but you see my point. I personally am sick of donating to organizations that say that they will do this & that, but when it all comes down to it most of the money is eaten up by bullshit!

You said:
"If anyone wants to start calling widely used means of raising funds for personal or business matters begging watch your step with us! Otherwise you will be asked to cover the cost of buying my wife's El Braille 40 when it comes out and upgrading our versions of Jaws. End quote.

Intimidating people with this kind of dumb ass threat isn't going to put people in your corner! What are you going to do, use donated funds to sue people?!
Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year!

Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Donahue <mailto:pdonahue2@satx.rr.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 7:44 PM
Subject: Crowd Funding


Good evening everyone,

CrowdFunding is widely used throughout many segments of society including those who are employed. It is not a form of begging and is not promoted as such. Rather it could be used as a way to raise public awareness of the existence of assistive technology and what users of this technology must do to cover the cost of keeping it up.

If folks can use crowd funding to raise money for needed surgery and treatments, funding to achieve educational and vocational goals and for many other purposes why not tap into this means of creating revenue to cover the cost of buying and maintaining assistive technology. Large corporations also use crowd funding to start and grow their existing business ventures or to start new ones. No one calls them beggars.

I used to hear this kind of garbage when I was a street performer. Those making such statements about this occupation are either dead, still broke and living on public assistance, or had to move back in with mmom and dad. Mary and I tapped into various means to raise funding for the things we need without going to voke rehab or some other public assistance program and are closer to achieving financial independence. If anyone wants to start calling widely used means of raising funds for personal or business matters begging watch your step with us! Otherwise you will be asked to cover the cost of buying my wife's El Braille 40 when it comes out and upgrading our versions of Jaws. Now let's tap the crowd to raise the needed funds for keeping our assistive technology and to raise awareness of how it can benefit those with disabilities including the blind. All the best.

Peter Donahue



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 5:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: financing for jaws, Why Not CrowdFunding?

Another way besides begging to raise needed funds is to find a job or start a small business. Computers and the Internet enable many to work at home.

Kelly
Another way besides begging to raise needed funds is to find a job or start a small business. Computers and the Internet enable many to work at home.

Kelly




On 11/17/17, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2@satx.rr.com <mailto:pdonahue2@satx.rr.com> > wrote:
Hello,

We're dealing with the same situation here. Perhaps it's time some of
us tried CrowdFunding as a way to raise needed funds to cover these expenses.
People raise funds for all kinds of personal and corporate projects
and individual needs this way. It's time we tapped the power of the
crowd to help us cover the cost of buying and upgrading assistive
technology as an alternative to voke rehab and other public funding
sources. We plan to launch our own crowdfunding site to upgrade our
assistive technology by year's end. If someone beats us to it that's wonderful! All the best.

Peter Donahue



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenni Kent
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 3:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: financing for jaws

Hi,

I am trying to upgrade my jaws and get an sma I live in Iowa In
Missouri there was the tap-i program that paid for assistive tech for
you every few years so you could access the internet. Now I am stuck
because I need this and don't know a way to get it i wish fs had a
payment plan for jfw so people could pay for jaws and an sma I could
do that but this six hundred bucks all at once crap is rediculous.










Re: JAWS 2018 QUESTION

 

Hi Shirley,

One feature I love about Jaws 2018 is the fact that I can now recognize any image file with ?Convenient OCR, it is no longer just PDF files which have to be open in Acrobat Reader. Now if you have a Jpg or tif file you just right click on the file in Windows explorer and choose "Recognize with Jaws" from the context menu.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 7:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 QUESTION

No. Your JAWS 18 is already compatible with Windows 10, so installing JAWS
2018 now will not affect that process. BTW the JAWS 2018 on the FS web site download page is already one version higher than your DVD. You could just as well put away that DVD for archival purposes and just download the latest JAWS 2018 to install.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Shirley Tracy" <stracy5@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 06:54
Subject: JAWS 2018 QUESTION


Hi everyone,

I just received my JAWS 2018 disk. I'm running Windows 7, and currently I am
using JAWS 18. Are there any benefits to installing the new disk as opposed
to just waiting until I eventually go to Windows 10?

Thank you for your opinions.

Shirley


Re: ePub editor that works with Jaws 2018 or Jaws 18

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

If you are using Windows 10, the Edge browser now reads epub files. I have done it with JAWS 2018.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ePub editor that works with Jaws 2018 or Jaws 18

 

I am looking for an accessible ePub editor.

I have converted some documents to ePub but I can’t get the title and author to show up correctly.

 

I use Codex for the conversion from either Word or HTML.

 

Any suggestions would be welcome.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

No, you can’t. But you can save them to your local drive. Then copy the files to the thumb drive into whichever class and folder you decide they belong. This is why you’re getting the error. I believe that if you save them to the local drive, then copy the attachments onto the thumb drive, you won’t receive this error.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

 

I can’t do that because I am saving it on a thumb drive separated into classes with many folders in each class.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

 

Have you tried saving the attachments to a directory closer to the root directory on the local drive? It sounds like the pathname is too long, and the files won’t save in the specified directory.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

 

I am good till your last step;

For when I do the following,

5. Follow the prompts to save. Then press the OK dialog.

This should save all attachments in the message.

 

This doesn’t work, for when I do this last step,

I get an error saying something like

“file or directory name not valid” and it doesn’t let me save them all,

Am ok if I do only one but the minute I try to do them all, I get the error.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

 

Hi, Shannon. I use Windows 10 with JAWS 2018. I am having no trouble reading multiple attachments with Outlook 2010. I do the following.

 

1. Open Outlook2010.

2. Shift TAB to the attachments list.

3. Use Right and Left Arrows to advance or go backward through the attachments list.

4. Press ALT + F, followed by M to save attachments.

5. Follow the prompts to save. Then press the OK dialog.

This should save all attachments in the message.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

 

Hi all,

0I know that I can alt tab from the top of the message into the attachments field but when there are multiple attachments to a message.  Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018 are having problem s arrowing to the other items in the list.

What is the trick?

Insert A does  not get me into the attachments list as the help says it will.

So what do I do?

 

Thanks

Shannon


Re: Uninstaling JAWS17

 

Are you using Windows 7 or Windows 10?

Keep in mind that many keyboards don’t have an application key and if that is the case Shift+F10 will do the same as the application key.

Also, in Windows 10 the application key doesn’t do anything, just press enter and tab once to Uninstall.

Lastly, just uninstalling Jaws 17 will not fully uninstall it, the Jaws 17 Talking Installer will remain on the system.

You might want to consider uninstalling all Freedom Scientific entries in Programs and Features, but make sure to leave shared components and, if you want to merge settings, leave your user settings.

I usually start by uninstalling FS Reader, then the various Omnipage OCR applications and lastly the Talking Installer and the Video Intersept which I believe is no longer used by Jaws 2018.

At some point there may be no more speech, use Narrator to finish uninstalling all Freedom Scientific items.

When done run the Jaws 2018 installer, all it takes when it starts running is to press the spacebar to check the “I Agree” and then enter to start the installation, everything from there is automated, no more pressing Next a few times and all that. At the very end it tells you that it’s done, you press enter, then it tells you you need to reboot and you press enter one more time, let it reboot and that’s it.

It’s a very nice and simple installer now.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cletus Hostetler
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 8:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Uninstaling JAWS17

 

I have installed JAWS2018. What is the procedure to remove JAWS17?

cletus Hostetler


ePub editor that works with Jaws 2018 or Jaws 18

Richard Turner
 

I am looking for an accessible ePub editor.

I have converted some documents to ePub but I can’t get the title and author to show up correctly.

 

I use Codex for the conversion from either Word or HTML.

 

Any suggestions would be welcome.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

mike mcglashon
 

I can’t do that because I am saving it on a thumb drive separated into classes with many folders in each class.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

 

Have you tried saving the attachments to a directory closer to the root directory on the local drive? It sounds like the pathname is too long, and the files won’t save in the specified directory.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

 

I am good till your last step;

For when I do the following,

5. Follow the prompts to save. Then press the OK dialog.

This should save all attachments in the message.

 

This doesn’t work, for when I do this last step,

I get an error saying something like

“file or directory name not valid” and it doesn’t let me save them all,

Am ok if I do only one but the minute I try to do them all, I get the error.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

 

Hi, Shannon. I use Windows 10 with JAWS 2018. I am having no trouble reading multiple attachments with Outlook 2010. I do the following.

 

1. Open Outlook2010.

2. Shift TAB to the attachments list.

3. Use Right and Left Arrows to advance or go backward through the attachments list.

4. Press ALT + F, followed by M to save attachments.

5. Follow the prompts to save. Then press the OK dialog.

This should save all attachments in the message.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

 

Hi all,

0I know that I can alt tab from the top of the message into the attachments field but when there are multiple attachments to a message.  Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018 are having problem s arrowing to the other items in the list.

What is the trick?

Insert A does  not get me into the attachments list as the help says it will.

So what do I do?

 

Thanks

Shannon


Re: financing for jaws

netbat66
 

this is why it doesn't pay to not upgrade.
it still costs the same. weather you buy them as they are released or you wait for a few years to upgrade.
$120 each or $120 for a s m a that gives you two upgrades for the cost of one.
and it costs more if you have the pro version.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jenni Kent
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws

for both the upgrade and the sma its going to be $360 thats what they
told me.
On 11/17/2017 4:38 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:
no i am on jaws 17


Re: scrolling up a command window

David Bailes
 

Hi John,
thanks for the info, I hadn't realized exactly what you were wanting to do.
I don't know a good way of doing the same using Jaws.
However, when I was looking around I came across the two powershell commands start-transcript and stop-transcript, which may be of use. They produce a text file of the commands and output between the times when you executed start-transcript, and then stop-transcript. If you type in start-transcript without any other parameters, it writes to a text file in the documents folder of the account which you are currently using. There are some optional parameters, including the path of the file.

David.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 09:06 am, John Covici wrote:
I am not necessarily trying to get command history, I just want to get
the previous lines in the window -- it might be something from
get-eventlog or whatever and this is where I get blank when I use the
scroll setting in the edit menu. I have another screen reader where I
can actually tap the scroll up arrow and it moves up one line in the
window, but I was trying to do this with JAWS.

On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 11:56:37 -0500,
David Bailes wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
Hi John,
if you want to read previous lines, rather that scroll the window, you can just use up arrow (and the then use down arrow to read the next line, if required) Is this not working for you?
Note that if you want to go back a long way, you may need to increase the command history buffer size. To do this: press alt+spacebar to open the window's menu, and choose properties. On the options page of the dialog, you can change the
command history buffer size.

David.

David.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 08:07 am, John Covici wrote:

Unfortunately, your method yields blank when I use up or down arrow
after selecting scroll under edit.

Thanks again.

On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:28:54 -0500,
David Bailes wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
Hi John,
there are a couple of ways of scrolling using the keyboard.
The first is to use page up/down.
The second provides finer adjustment. Press alt+spacebar to open the window's menu, open the edit sub menu, and choose scroll. You can now use up/down arrows to scroll. When you've finished scrolling, press Esc to return back to
the
normal mode.

David.

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 07:17 pm, John Covici wrote:

Hi. Is there any way in JAWS to scroll up past whats on the current
command window -- I want to access the scroll up arrow at the top of
the window and the scroll down arrow at the bottom.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...


Re: financing for jaws

netbat66
 

that depends on which version you bought.
the home version can be installed on 3 computers. the pro i think can be installed on 5.
i think there is one more version with a business license that is unlimited for the business that buys the license.

-----Original Message-----
From: David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws

Did I miss something? When I talked to Freedom they told me I could use my copy of JAWS on as many devices as I wanted providing I owned the device, I E, lap top or desktop.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: November 18, 2017 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws

Hello Jenni and everyone,

We were told the same thing. IN our case the cost would be around $400.00 per computer. Since there are two of us who use Jaws on multiple devices we need two copies so it's double what you were quoted.

Peter Donahue who along with wife Mary embraced various income-producing vehicles to keep up with the cost of buying and maintaining assistive technology.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenni Kent
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws

for both the upgrade and the sma its going to be $360 thats what they told me.


On 11/17/2017 6:42 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
It should only cost you 120.00. 240.00 at most.
On 11/17/2017 4:38 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:
no i am on jaws 17


On 11/17/2017 4:40 PM, netbat66 wrote:
what version are you on now?
are you saying you are 6 upgrades behind?
a s m a is $200 for two pro jaws upgrades.
$120 for two home jaws upgrades.
check here.
https://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal


-----Original Message----- From: Jenni Kent
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: financing for jaws

Hi,

I am trying to upgrade my jaws and get an sma I live in Iowa In
Missouri there was the tap-i program that paid for assistive tech
for you every few years so you could access the internet. Now I am
stuck because I need this and don't know a way to get it i wish fs
had a payment plan for jfw so people could pay for jaws and an sma I
could do that but this six hundred bucks all at once crap is
rediculous.










Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Have you tried saving the attachments to a directory closer to the root directory on the local drive? It sounds like the pathname is too long, and the files won’t save in the specified directory.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

 

I am good till your last step;

For when I do the following,

5. Follow the prompts to save. Then press the OK dialog.

This should save all attachments in the message.

 

This doesn’t work, for when I do this last step,

I get an error saying something like

“file or directory name not valid” and it doesn’t let me save them all,

Am ok if I do only one but the minute I try to do them all, I get the error.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

 

Hi, Shannon. I use Windows 10 with JAWS 2018. I am having no trouble reading multiple attachments with Outlook 2010. I do the following.

 

1. Open Outlook2010.

2. Shift TAB to the attachments list.

3. Use Right and Left Arrows to advance or go backward through the attachments list.

4. Press ALT + F, followed by M to save attachments.

5. Follow the prompts to save. Then press the OK dialog.

This should save all attachments in the message.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What is the trick with multiple attachments in outlook 2010?

 

Hi all,

0I know that I can alt tab from the top of the message into the attachments field but when there are multiple attachments to a message.  Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018 are having problem s arrowing to the other items in the list.

What is the trick?

Insert A does  not get me into the attachments list as the help says it will.

So what do I do?

 

Thanks

Shannon


Re: financing for jaws, Why Not CrowdFunding?

 

Hi Kelly,

I know we disagree at times about things, but I couldn't have said it better although I wasn't going to say it.
A lot of the crowdfunding campagnes people do are in my opinion are no different from glorified online begging except that an actual begger has to work harder for what they get.
I would probably qualify your statement to get a job or start a business by saying that for some people due to their disability and maybe multiple disability this may not be possible, but in that case NVDA which is free unless you choose to donate to them is probably more than adequate to do what they want to do.
Also, even people who are on some sort of assistance program usually find money for some luxuries and by foregoing those for a time they could probably raise the money over a 2 or 3 year period to buy Jaws and once you have Jaws I really hate it when people bitch about the SMA which for the home version is $120 every two years. This works out to $5 a month so just buy 1 or 2 less coffees or whatever most of us spend money on if you feel you really need Jaws.
Just yesterday somebody from Nigeria posted a message with a Jaws question and he said he is running the demo version because he can't afford to buy it. This I can of course believe because many people here even if they live on a very small amount of money still have a lot more than a large portion of the population in many countries in the world. Here is somebody who makes due with having to reboot his computer every 40 minutes. Even if Jaws did a better job with some task, then you could just run NVDA for most of what you do and use Jaws in demo mode if you do whatever it is that works better with Jaws, you can actually do quite a bit in 40 minutes.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 3:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws, Why Not CrowdFunding?

Another way besides begging to raise needed funds is to find a job or start a small business. Computers and the Internet enable many to work at home.

Kelly
Another way besides begging to raise needed funds is to find a job or start a small business. Computers and the Internet enable many to work at home.

Kelly




On 11/17/17, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2@satx.rr.com> wrote:
Hello,

We're dealing with the same situation here. Perhaps it's time some of
us tried CrowdFunding as a way to raise needed funds to cover these expenses.
People raise funds for all kinds of personal and corporate projects
and individual needs this way. It's time we tapped the power of the
crowd to help us cover the cost of buying and upgrading assistive
technology as an alternative to voke rehab and other public funding
sources. We plan to launch our own crowdfunding site to upgrade our
assistive technology by year's end. If someone beats us to it that's wonderful! All the best.

Peter Donahue



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jenni Kent
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 3:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: financing for jaws

Hi,

I am trying to upgrade my jaws and get an sma I live in Iowa In
Missouri there was the tap-i program that paid for assistive tech for
you every few years so you could access the internet. Now I am stuck
because I need this and don't know a way to get it i wish fs had a
payment plan for jfw so people could pay for jaws and an sma I could
do that but this six hundred bucks all at once crap is rediculous.










Re: financing for jaws

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

We did that, when my husband, Harvey, wanted JAWS on his so that I could use it and show him how.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws

Did I miss something? When I talked to Freedom they told me I could use my copy of JAWS on as many devices as I wanted providing I owned the device, I E, lap top or desktop.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: November 18, 2017 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws

Hello Jenni and everyone,

We were told the same thing. IN our case the cost would be around $400.00 per computer. Since there are two of us who use Jaws on multiple devices we need two copies so it's double what you were quoted.

Peter Donahue who along with wife Mary embraced various income-producing vehicles to keep up with the cost of buying and maintaining assistive technology.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenni Kent
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: financing for jaws

for both the upgrade and the sma its going to be $360 thats what they told me.


On 11/17/2017 6:42 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
It should only cost you 120.00. 240.00 at most.
On 11/17/2017 4:38 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:
no i am on jaws 17


On 11/17/2017 4:40 PM, netbat66 wrote:
what version are you on now?
are you saying you are 6 upgrades behind?
a s m a is $200 for two pro jaws upgrades.
$120 for two home jaws upgrades.
check here.
https://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal


-----Original Message----- From: Jenni Kent
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: financing for jaws

Hi,

I am trying to upgrade my jaws and get an sma I live in Iowa In
Missouri there was the tap-i program that paid for assistive tech
for you every few years so you could access the internet. Now I am
stuck because I need this and don't know a way to get it i wish fs
had a payment plan for jfw so people could pay for jaws and an sma I
could do that but this six hundred bucks all at once crap is
rediculous.










Re: trouble with Firefox 57

Gerald Levy
 

 
As has been discussed extensively on other lists,Firefox 57 has undergone major structural changes  that make it inaccessible with screen readers.  You will have to roll back to an earlier version of Firefox, perhaps Firefox 52, the last version that works with Webvisum, or else switch to IE 11 or Google Chrome. Another option would be to install Firefox ESR, which will not be modified with these changes until the middle of next year.
 
Gerald
 
 
 

Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 12:35 PM
Subject: trouble with Firefox 57
 
Good morning list; first, running windows 10 bill 1703 and jaws 2018.  Been using Firefox for quite some time with no issues; now, my machine updated Firefox to 57 or whatever it is and I cannot read anything and my computer restarts a lot.  Does anyone know how to resolve these issues or do I need to go to another browser; any advice would be appreciated.
Marv