Date   

Most effective OCR route

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi Everyone,

I hope this message finds you well. I am a blind lawyer. I use JAWS
16, Windows 10 and Office 10/16.

I use FineReader 11 for the purpose of converting inaccessible PDF
documents into word. While some portion of the converted text is
clear, I often find that the first few pages and minute details like
clause numbers/dates aren't clear. One common problem that I observe
is that in the definitions clause, a lot of the content gets jumbled
up in the word version in such a way that it is difficult to figure
out which definition corresponds to which term.
Would upgrading to Fine Reader 14 help here, or are there other tools
that I should explore?

I am familiar with the JAWS OCR function and RoboBraille but haven't
found these to be significantly different from Fine Reader 11. So is
this just the best that OCR technology currently has to offer, or are
there ways of making conversion results better?

Best,
Rahul


Re: Getting Jaws to read line Numbering in MS Word

Richard Turner
 


I do not know, but have you tried either calling VFO support or Microsoft Accessibility Support?
Microsoft's number is 800-936-5900

HTH,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Nov 17, 2017, at 2:45 AM, Laura Wolk <laura.wolk@...> wrote:

Hello,

I asked this question a few months ago, but I'm trying again in a more
targeted fashion in hopes of getting an answer.

I have jaws 18, Windows 7, and Word 2010.

I work in a field that frequently requires documents to have
continuous line numbering turned on in word. Staff will often
communicate ideas about shared documents by referencing particular
line numbers in the document. I can use insert+delete to tell me the
line number of the **page**, but I cannot figure out how to get jaws
to tell me the number of the line with respect to the entire document.
Note, I know that I can use the "go to" function to go to a particular
line number, but I also need to be able to extract the information to
communicate with other people about my own ideas.

I also have a Braille display. I have status cells turned off, and I
have tried playing with turning them on to see if that would give me
the information, but that doesn't seem to be working. Any assistance
is greatly appreciated.

Laura




Re: Contact

Jonas Voll
 

I was not able to get OneDrive Working was you able to sett it up using Jaws?
I have an Microsoft account!
Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
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Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 6:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Contact

If you use either Dropbox or OneDrive then the easiest way is to enable screenshots in one of those services. Then simply pressing PrintScreen will take a screenshot and save it to a folder of your choosing as a PNG file.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 8:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Contact

Hi good people:
I joined the group not too long ago, but I've not been posting.
I sent a post two days ago, wanting to know if anyone had solutions to the problem I am having with my web browser firefox and JAWS. From the responses I read to other people's posts, I learnt that the problem is a general problem. It is a problem that appears to defy solutions for now.
I have new issues, which I will like fellow members to please kindly help me address.
I am having problems with screenshots. When I do a screenshot of a web page using the print screen key on my laptop, and copy and paste it into the pint submenu, and subsequently send it, I am informed by the receipient that the screenshot is not visible. I've tried it several times, and the problem remains the same. I use firefox with it. I also use JAWS 16.
Please how can I fix this problem of screenshots not being visible.
What can I do to make the screenshots visible.
Added to this, does anyone use snagit from techsmith? how is it used to do a screenshot of a webpage.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps.
I am Ibrahim Ajayi.







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Re: Contact

 

If you use either Dropbox or OneDrive then the easiest way is to enable screenshots in one of those services. Then simply pressing PrintScreen will take a screenshot and save it to a folder of your choosing as a PNG file.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 8:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Contact

Hi good people:
I joined the group not too long ago, but I've not been posting.
I sent a post two days ago, wanting to know if anyone had solutions to the problem I am having with my web browser firefox and JAWS. From the responses I read to other people's posts, I learnt that the problem is a general problem. It is a problem that appears to defy solutions for now.
I have new issues, which I will like fellow members to please kindly help me address.
I am having problems with screenshots. When I do a screenshot of a web page using the print screen key on my laptop, and copy and paste it into the pint submenu, and subsequently send it, I am informed by the receipient that the screenshot is not visible. I've tried it several times, and the problem remains the same. I use firefox with it. I also use JAWS 16.
Please how can I fix this problem of screenshots not being visible.
What can I do to make the screenshots visible.
Added to this, does anyone use snagit from techsmith? how is it used to do a screenshot of a webpage.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps.
I am Ibrahim Ajayi.


Re: Reading the address field in Outlook 13

 

If it is a valid email address it is treated as a single item, but you can use the Jaws cursor and read letter by letter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Danney Yates
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 4:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading the address field in Outlook 13

Hi everyone, I am using jaws 18 with Outlook 2013. I use the auto fill feature when I enter addresses and the “to “field. Why is it that I cannot read by character once I get that into the field? Is there a command I can use so that I can read by character. This would be helpful if I’m not certain how to spell a persons name. Thanks so much, as always, for any help.
Danny Yates

Sent from my iPhone


Reading the address field in Outlook 13

Danney Yates <dwyates1@...>
 

Hi everyone, I am using jaws 18 with Outlook 2013. I use the auto fill feature when I enter addresses and the “to “field. Why is it that I cannot read by character once I get that into the field? Is there a command I can use so that I can read by character. This would be helpful if I’m not certain how to spell a persons name. Thanks so much, as always, for any help.
Danny Yates

Sent from my iPhone


Getting Jaws to read line Numbering in MS Word

Laura Wolk
 

Hello,

I asked this question a few months ago, but I'm trying again in a more
targeted fashion in hopes of getting an answer.

I have jaws 18, Windows 7, and Word 2010.

I work in a field that frequently requires documents to have
continuous line numbering turned on in word. Staff will often
communicate ideas about shared documents by referencing particular
line numbers in the document. I can use insert+delete to tell me the
line number of the **page**, but I cannot figure out how to get jaws
to tell me the number of the line with respect to the entire document.
Note, I know that I can use the "go to" function to go to a particular
line number, but I also need to be able to extract the information to
communicate with other people about my own ideas.

I also have a Braille display. I have status cells turned off, and I
have tried playing with turning them on to see if that would give me
the information, but that doesn't seem to be working. Any assistance
is greatly appreciated.

Laura


Re: Jaws Stops Reading Word 2016 Document

Richard Turner
 

I have  both Jaws 18 and 2018 on my system running Windows 10 and Office 365 so I have Word 2016.

 

I couldn’t easily duplicate your issue.

 

It may depend on where a lot of factors.

Font size, speech synthesizer, and I don’t know what all.

 

If these are documents you wrote, maybe check which view you are using in Word.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ed Culpepper
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws Stops Reading Word 2016 Document

 

Fellow Jawboners –

When attempting to write, read, or edit a document with MS Word 2016 Jaws 18 will stop reading as I use arrow keys to move through the text. I recently updated to Word 2016 from Word 2007. I did not have this problem with Word 2007. I am relatively new to using Jaws, having migrated from the trustworthy screen reader I had used for decades. Does anyone have an idea of what is causing Jaws to go silent or to read only intermittent characters with Word 2016? Do I need to alter some settings in order for Jaws 18 to read reliably with Word 2016? I have not yet updated to Jaws 2018. Will that update solve this problem?

Many thanks –

Ed Culpepper

Eculpepper1@...


Re: NVDA and Touch Screens

Chris
 

You should be able to double tap on a button or link to open it with or without nvda running

So i don’t know why it is not working for you

But there is a touch gesture add-on whether that will help you or not i not sure it would but give it a go

It is on the addon page

 

 

From: Andre
Sent: 16 November 2017 21:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT: NVDA and Touch Screens

 

I was wondering about NVDA and touch screens. I have to help my son access ABC Mouse on a pc running Windows 10 (fall creators). It seems like something has changed. Maybe not though. Basically my question is:

 

Is it possible to keep NVDA running (for me) and still allow him to just use the regular touch screen gestures? For instance, when I have him on YouTube and I’m running NVDA so I can choose what I want him to watch, he can’t just tap on play/pause and have it play or pause the video. I have to completely quit NVDA. After doing a Google search, I tried the sleep mode, but that didn’t seem to work either. So are there any addons I can get to negate the nvda touch gestures, etc.?

 

Hopefully you understand what I’m asking. If not, please let me know. By the way, I’m no NVDA expert either. I know he can just touch the screen when I’m running Window-Eyes, but my browse mode feature disappeared and that was WE 9.5.4. I’m trying NVDA 2017.3. I think that’s what it’s called. So is there a way to keep NVDA running and turn off its touch support? I figure if I can do that, then that will kind of simulate Window-Eyes’ browse mode.

 

 

Thanks a lot for your help.

 

 

 


Re: OT: NVDA and Touch Screens

Stephanie Switzer
 

I think there is an email list for Nvidia users. I can’t remember for the life of me what it is but you should be able to find it through Google. I don’t know a lot about NVDA but maybe that list can help you.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 16, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Andre <stepserve@...> wrote:

I was wondering about NVDA and touch screens. I have to help my son access ABC Mouse on a pc running Windows 10 (fall creators). It seems like something has changed. Maybe not though. Basically my question is:

 

Is it possible to keep NVDA running (for me) and still allow him to just use the regular touch screen gestures? For instance, when I have him on YouTube and I’m running NVDA so I can choose what I want him to watch, he can’t just tap on play/pause and have it play or pause the video. I have to completely quit NVDA. After doing a Google search, I tried the sleep mode, but that didn’t seem to work either. So are there any addons I can get to negate the nvda touch gestures, etc.?

 

Hopefully you understand what I’m asking. If not, please let me know. By the way, I’m no NVDA expert either. I know he can just touch the screen when I’m running Window-Eyes, but my browse mode feature disappeared and that was WE 9.5.4. I’m trying NVDA 2017.3. I think that’s what it’s called. So is there a way to keep NVDA running and turn off its touch support? I figure if I can do that, then that will kind of simulate Window-Eyes’ browse mode.

 

 

Thanks a lot for your help.

 

 


OT: NVDA and Touch Screens

Andre
 

I was wondering about NVDA and touch screens. I have to help my son access ABC Mouse on a pc running Windows 10 (fall creators). It seems like something has changed. Maybe not though. Basically my question is:

 

Is it possible to keep NVDA running (for me) and still allow him to just use the regular touch screen gestures? For instance, when I have him on YouTube and I’m running NVDA so I can choose what I want him to watch, he can’t just tap on play/pause and have it play or pause the video. I have to completely quit NVDA. After doing a Google search, I tried the sleep mode, but that didn’t seem to work either. So are there any addons I can get to negate the nvda touch gestures, etc.?

 

Hopefully you understand what I’m asking. If not, please let me know. By the way, I’m no NVDA expert either. I know he can just touch the screen when I’m running Window-Eyes, but my browse mode feature disappeared and that was WE 9.5.4. I’m trying NVDA 2017.3. I think that’s what it’s called. So is there a way to keep NVDA running and turn off its touch support? I figure if I can do that, then that will kind of simulate Window-Eyes’ browse mode.

 

 

Thanks a lot for your help.

 

 


Additional Note Regarding Outlook Crashing When Entering E-mail Addresses Into A Blank E-mail

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

Yesterday, you may recall that I was told by Freedom Scientific Tech Support that the best way to solve the issue of Outlook Crashing when entering addresses into the “to” field of a new e-mail message was to put Outlook in safe mode.

 

This is continuing to work for me, although I must add that if you shut your computer down for any reason, you will have to go back into Outlook and put it back into safe mode once you have re-booted.

 

Apparently, the safe mode setting isn’t saved, as I have just discovered.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: excel formula

Ann Byrne
 

I think it should be:
sum(b20:b32)

Alt= is good if there are no blank cells; but it stops summing at a blank so I prefer to specify what I want.

Good luck!

At 11:44 AM 11/16/2017, you wrote:
Running excel 2007
Jaws 2018
Windows10
I
* place myself in to a cell. Â
* 2. Hit equal, to start formula.
* 3. Type “sum00[b20:b32] then hit enter.
* I always get an error message.
* The sum formula should be one of the easiest to do.
* What am I doing wrong?
Thankyou for all help
Mark F.


Re: excel formula

Richard Turner
 

arMark,
Drop the 00 and replace the brackets with parentheses, and your formula should work fine.

Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

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On Nov 16, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Exactly, in fact if you want to sum up a range of cells it’s easiest to just go underneath or to the right of the cell range and then type Alt+= and enter.

Alt+= is the keyboard shortcut for the =sum function and if you have a range of cells above or to the left then as long as there are no blanks in it it will take the range automatically.

You can always go back and press F2 and review it afterwards or, if you want to say put the sum in A1 but the range you want to sum up is from B10 to B20 then just type Alt+= followed by B10:b20 and press enter.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: excel formula

 

Never heard of the function "SUM00". I just use SUM followed by the range enclosed in parenthesis, not brackets.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Furness

Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 09:44

Subject: excel formula

 

Running excel 2007

Jaws 2018

Windows10

I

  1. place myself in to a cell.  
  2. 2. Hit equal, to start formula.
  3. 3. Type “sum00[b20:b32] then hit enter.
  4. I always get an error message.
  5. The sum formula should be one of the easiest  to do.
  6. What am I doing wrong?

Thankyou for all help

Mark F.

 


Re: Contact

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

I believe you need to turn off the virtual cursor with JawsKey + Z for the screen shot to work.
Tom Bisset

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 11:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Contact

Hi good people:
I joined the group not too long ago, but I've not been posting.
I sent a post two days ago, wanting to know if anyone had solutions to the problem I am having with my web browser firefox and JAWS. From the responses I read to other people's posts, I learnt that the problem is a general problem. It is a problem that appears to defy solutions for now.
I have new issues, which I will like fellow members to please kindly help me address.
I am having problems with screenshots. When I do a screenshot of a web page using the print screen key on my laptop, and copy and paste it into the pint submenu, and subsequently send it, I am informed by the receipient that the screenshot is not visible. I've tried it several times, and the problem remains the same. I use firefox with it. I also use JAWS 16.
Please how can I fix this problem of screenshots not being visible.
What can I do to make the screenshots visible.
Added to this, does anyone use snagit from techsmith? how is it used to do a screenshot of a webpage.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps.
I am Ibrahim Ajayi.


Contact

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hi good people:
I joined the group not too long ago, but I've not been posting.
I sent a post two days ago, wanting to know if anyone had solutions to
the problem I am having with my web browser firefox and JAWS. From
the responses I read to other people's posts, I learnt that the
problem is a general problem. It is a problem that appears to defy
solutions for now.
I have new issues, which I will like fellow members to please kindly
help me address.
I am having problems with screenshots. When I do a screenshot of a
web page using the print screen key on my laptop, and copy and paste
it into the pint submenu, and subsequently send it, I am informed by
the receipient that the screenshot is not visible. I've tried it
several times, and the problem remains the same. I use firefox with
it. I also use JAWS 16.
Please how can I fix this problem of screenshots not being visible.
What can I do to make the screenshots visible.
Added to this, does anyone use snagit from techsmith? how is it used
to do a screenshot of a webpage.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps.
I am Ibrahim Ajayi.


Re: problems With My JFW screenreader

 

Hi Ibrahim,

Can you let us know what version of Windows and what version of Firefox you are using? There are issues with the latest version of Firefox which is version 57 and which is also called Firefox Quantum.
If you are using the demo version of Jaws, you might want to consider downloading Jaws 2018 or at least Jaws 18, bboth of these versions work well with Google Chrome and I have now made this my default browser because it is fast and works well in most situations.
Lastly, have you heard of NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access)? It is a free screenreader and once you learn how to use it you might find it does all you want, here the link to the NV Access website and some information from their website:
https://www.nvaccess.org

NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access) is a free “screen reader” which enables blind and vision impaired people to use computers. It reads the text on the screen in a computerised voice. You can control what is read to you by moving the cursor to the relevant area of text with a mouse or the arrows on your keyboard.
NVDA can also convert the text into braille if the computer user owns a device called a “braille display”.
NVDA provides the key to education and employment for many blind people. It also provides access to social networking, online shopping, banking and news.
NVDA works with Microsoft Windows. You can download it to your PC, or to a USB stick which you can use with any computer.
Normally screen readers are expensive, making them unaffordable for many blind people. NVDA is free. It’s been downloaded 70,000+ times, in 43 languages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: problems With My JFW screenreader

HI good people:
I am having problems with my JAWS screen reader. The problem started not too long ago. I find it difficult using the screen reader on Mozilla firefox. Often times when I am browsing, sometimes going through my gmail inbox, the screen reader crashes suddenly, and stops work for some time only to resume after some time. Some times, when I want to open a website, the screnreader crashes, shuts down the screen reader, and could even distort the functioning of the computer itself.
Secondly, when I do a screenshot of a webpage with the print screen key, i am told when I send it down, that the screenshot is not visible.
Please has anyone ever had any of these problems? if yes how did you go aboutsolving it. What is the solution.
I use JAWS 16.1.4448, a demo version.
I am from Africa, and I cannot afford the hundreds of Dollars that the screen reader costs.
Looking forward to reading a response.
I am Ibrahim Ajayi from Nigeria.


problems With My JFW screenreader

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

HI good people:
I am having problems with my JAWS screen reader. The problem started
not too long ago. I find it difficult using the screen reader on
Mozilla firefox. Often times when I am browsing, sometimes going
through my gmail inbox, the screen reader crashes suddenly, and stops
work for some time only to resume after some time. Some times, when I
want to open a website, the screnreader crashes, shuts down the screen
reader, and could even distort the functioning of the computer itself.
Secondly, when I do a screenshot of a webpage with the print screen
key, i am told when I send it down, that the screenshot is not
visible.
Please has anyone ever had any of these problems? if yes how did you
go aboutsolving it. What is the solution.
I use JAWS 16.1.4448, a demo version.
I am from Africa, and I cannot afford the hundreds of Dollars that the
screen reader costs.
Looking forward to reading a response.
I am Ibrahim Ajayi from Nigeria.


Re: testing settings

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Hello, your messages are coming through loud and clear. I will check with the web developer, and see if he is aware of anything changing that with Gmail.

On Nov 13, 2017, at 2:32 PM, David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@gmail.com> wrote:

For some reason, all messages from this group went directly into my spam folder. I’m just checking the settings.


Jaws Stops Reading Word 2016 Document

Ed Culpepper
 

Fellow Jawboners –

When attempting to write, read, or edit a document with MS Word 2016 Jaws 18 will stop reading as I use arrow keys to move through the text. I recently updated to Word 2016 from Word 2007. I did not have this problem with Word 2007. I am relatively new to using Jaws, having migrated from the trustworthy screen reader I had used for decades. Does anyone have an idea of what is causing Jaws to go silent or to read only intermittent characters with Word 2016? Do I need to alter some settings in order for Jaws 18 to read reliably with Word 2016? I have not yet updated to Jaws 2018. Will that update solve this problem?

Many thanks –

Ed Culpepper

Eculpepper1@...