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Re: Win 2018

 

Sorry for the previous message, I am somewhere with a very slow internet connection and while I thought it was writing my message all it wrote was "I".

 

Anyways, I wonder why they still bother sending out a disk, often by the time it arrives they have already released an update and I wish instead of wasting all these resources they would just ask the user if they want a physical copy. I haven't used one probably in more than 10 years and just throw them away.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 11:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 2018

 

I

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 2018

 

Yes that is true. Fs will send a new copy of jaws on disk.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:30 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Win wanta                                        away.themthrow,physical

 

New to Jaws.  I have two /SMA's and assume one will be used by this upgrade.  Is it my understanding that if you have a SMA FS also sends you a new copy of Jaws on disc?

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: can't up date jaws until I solve navigational issue

Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
 

Problem solved. I updated Jaws and no more problems in either version. thanks

On 10/26/2017 7:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
No issues here, you might want to completely uninstall Jaws and reinstall it. This is certainly not an issue which came up in private beta testing so probably something unique that went wrong on your system.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: can't up date jaws until I solve navigational issue
I haven't Ben able to use any navigational keys in Jaws since I upgraded to windows 10 fall edition. Has anyone experienced this issue?
Been using NVDA in the meantime. Thanks


Re: Win 2018

 

I

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 2018

 

Yes that is true. Fs will send a new copy of jaws on disk.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:30 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Win wanta                                        away.themthrow,physical

 

New to Jaws.  I have two /SMA's and assume one will be used by this upgrade.  Is it my understanding that if you have a SMA FS also sends you a new copy of Jaws on disc?

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Win 2018

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Yes that is true. Fs will send a new copy of jaws on disk.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Win 2018

New to Jaws. I have two /SMA's and assume one will be used by this
upgrade. Is it my understanding that if you have a SMA FS also sends
you a new copy of Jaws on disc?
Thanks


Re: amazon key

netbat66
 

no thanks. i wouldn't want to let anyone in when no one is home.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonas Voll
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: amazon key



Hey all chek out this video about amazon key!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn7DBdaUNLA





Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.





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Re: amazon key

Dave...
 

Pretty interesting. Also pretty expensive, I think around $250. And then there is the bit about letting someone unlock my door to drop off a package. I won’t be able to see the camera videos, I personally would not like that. But interesting, nonetheless.. How about when they deliver using a drone? Would it fly into my home and drop the package?

Dave
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 26, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Jonas Voll <jonas.voll@...> wrote:

Hey all chek out this video about amazon key!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn7DBdaUNLA

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system.



Re: inserting page numbers within word

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Below are notes from a FS webinar.

1. Press ALT+N to move to the Insert tab of the ribbon.

2. Next, press H for Header, and press DOWN ARROW to select Blank 3 Columns. Focus moves back to the header edit area at the top of the page. This time,

three different fields for text are inserted with the words [Type text] at the left justified, center, and right justified parts of the header edit area.

The cursor is just to the left of the first field.

3. Press RIGHT ARROW. The first field is now selected. You can verify this by pressing the read current control keystroke, INSERT+TAB.

4. Press RIGHT ARROW to move focus out of the field to the space after it. JAWS says, "out of form field."

5. Next, press RIGHT ARROW to move to the beginning of the second [Type text] field, and then select it by pressing RIGHT ARROW again.

6. Press the DEL key to delete this middle text field. The cursor remains in the center of the header, but the field is now gone. JAWS reports, "out of

form field" again.

7. Press RIGHT ARROW twice more to move to and then select the third [Type text] field.

8. Next, press ALT+JH to move to the Header & Footer Tools Design tab of the ribbon, followed by N U to activate the Page Number button in the Header &

Footer group of the lower ribbon. A submenu opens.

9. Press C to choose Current Position, and another submenu opens with focus on the first item, Plain Number 1.

10. Press ENTER to select Plain Number 1. The menus close, and the [Type text] field is now replaced with the number one.

                11. Press HOME to move to the beginning of the header area. This also selects the left aligned [Type text] field.

12. Type in your name or whatever .

13. Press escape to return to the main document.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: October 25, 2017 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: inserting page numbers within word

 

Hi all, Is there a way to insert a page number on a word document along with putting your name next to that page number?

Thanks.

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 


Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Carol,

Many thanks. I didn't think I had, but it has been known.

And of course, it's wonderful how tolerant people are. <Grin>.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 October 2017 13:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

You did not send a blank message, Steve. Hi was first, my message was next and then your reply to my message was below that. I doubt that Outlook freaked out at all. Some people just didn't read beyond the hi, grin.

Also, you did mention that the mouse cursor would be the active cursor and I simply misread that and thought the find feature had placed my PC cursor on the found word. I have played around with this feature and it does move the Jaws cursor. Thanks again.

Carol



On 10/26/2017 7:52 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

Wow, yes, it would be silly if I knew it happened. Outlook must have freaked out and sent a virtually blank message.

Apologies, remember, mistakes do happen.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: 25 October 2017 15:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Steve don't you think just putting hi in a email is kind of silly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: October 25, 2017 7:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 14:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Thank you. This is exactly what I am looking for. Wouldn't I need to route the Jaws cursor before clicking? My Jaws cursor does not always follow my PC cursor.

Carol

Carol,

Not if you are on a link, because the mouse tends to follow links in my experience, but it wouldn't hurt to route the cursor anyway.

All the best

Steve
On 10/25/2017 8:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

OK, here's a thought.

Find the word you want, as usual with JAWS find.

The mouse will actually be placed on that word, especially if it is a link.

Now to move rnight slightly, press Alt-Shift-Right arrow, this will move the physical mouse three pixels by default. I believe you can change this default in settings.

Then left click in the same way you did with WE.

All the best
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 13:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi Steve,

I was the original poster for this topic. Yes, this would be for a web site.

With Window-Eyes, my brother could go to the site he needed and search for a specific word. He could then use the WE mouse keys and navigate up a certain number of pixels and then move slightly to the right, where he could then click on an upload button that was not seen by Window-Eyes. Here is an example:

The letter "a" in the word "name" is at position 200:200.
The button to upload is at position 205:185.
There is no text or graphic that is available to click on. To click
the button, he finds the a in name and then moves his mouse pointer
up from
200 to 185 by pressing the move up command three times and then moves to the right by pressing the move right command one time. He is then on the upload button and can use his mouse click key to press the button.

He never got to a place in Window-Eyes where he could set up a
placemarker, and he is only just getting started with Jaws. His PC
is a
Win10 desktop. How can one move by pixels in Jaws? Thank you.

Carol

On 10/25/2017 6:56 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

Place markers only work on the web, don't they?

The Snowman's Hotspot Clicker script would be better for this.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: 19 October 2017 18:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol

I come late to this discussion but...
When your Brother finally gets this particular area found with the mouse can he then use the place marker functions of JAWS to get there all the time?
If I understood the functions of this ability it can be website specific and he can just use the placemarker list to go directly to that point.
I just thought it was worth a suggestion.
Anyone with more experience with the placemarkers should absolutely jump in here and correct my understanding.
Shannon
































Re: can't up date jaws until I solve navigational issue

 

No issues here, you might want to completely uninstall Jaws and reinstall it. This is certainly not an issue which came up in private beta testing so probably something unique that went wrong on your system.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: can't up date jaws until I solve navigational issue

I haven't Ben able to use any navigational keys in Jaws since I upgraded to windows 10 fall edition. Has anyone experienced this issue?
Been using NVDA in the meantime. Thanks


Re: Chrome Question

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Gene,

These instructions have worked for me in Firefox. Hopefully they will work the same in Chrome.

Open a window in Chrome.
Open the JAWS "Settings Center" by doing insert key plus 6.
under the"Web / HTML / PDFs"category, there is a subcategory labeled
"Miscellaneous"
Under"Miscellaneous"there is a setting labeled
"Indicate Element Attribute"
Unchecking this setting will stop Jaws from saying clickable.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Gene Stevens [guy.stevens@att.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 8:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome Question

I know this has been answered before but I don't have the time to search for it right now.

How do I stop Chrome from saying "clickable" at the end of every line?


Re: can't up date jaws until I solve navigational issue

Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
 

No, I'm referring to firefox. I currently have Jaws 18.06

On 10/25/2017 7:27 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
If you are referring to using Edge I haven't been able to use it all
since the update, I normally use Firefox so no loss for me but still
..
On 10/25/17, Brice Mijares <bricemijares@att.net> wrote:
I haven't Ben able to use any navigational keys in Jaws since I
upgraded to windows 10 fall edition. Has anyone experienced this issue?
Been using NVDA in the meantime. Thanks




amazon key

Jonas Voll
 

Hey all chek out this video about amazon key!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn7DBdaUNLA

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system.



Chrome Question

Gene Stevens
 

I know this has been answered before but I don't have the time to search for it right now.
 
How do I stop Chrome from saying "clickable" at the end of every line?


Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol Smith
 

You did not send a blank message, Steve. Hi was first, my message was next and then your reply to my message was below that. I doubt that Outlook freaked out at all. Some people just didn't read beyond the hi, grin.

Also, you did mention that the mouse cursor would be the active cursor and I simply misread that and thought the find feature had placed my PC cursor on the found word. I have played around with this feature and it does move the Jaws cursor. Thanks again.

Carol

On 10/26/2017 7:52 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

Wow, yes, it would be silly if I knew it happened. Outlook must have freaked out and sent a virtually blank message.

Apologies, remember, mistakes do happen.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: 25 October 2017 15:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Steve don't you think just putting hi in a email is kind of silly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: October 25, 2017 7:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 14:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Thank you. This is exactly what I am looking for. Wouldn't I need to route the Jaws cursor before clicking? My Jaws cursor does not always follow my PC cursor.

Carol

Carol,

Not if you are on a link, because the mouse tends to follow links in my experience, but it wouldn't hurt to route the cursor anyway.

All the best

Steve
On 10/25/2017 8:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

OK, here's a thought.

Find the word you want, as usual with JAWS find.

The mouse will actually be placed on that word, especially if it is a link.

Now to move rnight slightly, press Alt-Shift-Right arrow, this will move the physical mouse three pixels by default. I believe you can change this default in settings.

Then left click in the same way you did with WE.

All the best
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 13:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi Steve,

I was the original poster for this topic. Yes, this would be for a web site.

With Window-Eyes, my brother could go to the site he needed and search for a specific word. He could then use the WE mouse keys and navigate up a certain number of pixels and then move slightly to the right, where he could then click on an upload button that was not seen by Window-Eyes. Here is an example:

The letter "a" in the word "name" is at position 200:200.
The button to upload is at position 205:185.
There is no text or graphic that is available to click on. To click
the button, he finds the a in name and then moves his mouse pointer up
from
200 to 185 by pressing the move up command three times and then moves to the right by pressing the move right command one time. He is then on the upload button and can use his mouse click key to press the button.

He never got to a place in Window-Eyes where he could set up a
placemarker, and he is only just getting started with Jaws. His PC is
a
Win10 desktop. How can one move by pixels in Jaws? Thank you.

Carol

On 10/25/2017 6:56 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

Place markers only work on the web, don't they?

The Snowman's Hotspot Clicker script would be better for this.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: 19 October 2017 18:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol

I come late to this discussion but...
When your Brother finally gets this particular area found with the mouse can he then use the place marker functions of JAWS to get there all the time?
If I understood the functions of this ability it can be website specific and he can just use the placemarker list to go directly to that point.
I just thought it was worth a suggestion.
Anyone with more experience with the placemarkers should absolutely jump in here and correct my understanding.
Shannon































Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

Wow, yes, it would be silly if I knew it happened. Outlook must have freaked out and sent a virtually blank message.

Apologies, remember, mistakes do happen.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: 25 October 2017 15:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Steve don't you think just putting hi in a email is kind of silly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: October 25, 2017 7:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 14:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Thank you. This is exactly what I am looking for. Wouldn't I need to route the Jaws cursor before clicking? My Jaws cursor does not always follow my PC cursor.

Carol

Carol,

Not if you are on a link, because the mouse tends to follow links in my experience, but it wouldn't hurt to route the cursor anyway.

All the best

Steve
On 10/25/2017 8:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

OK, here's a thought.

Find the word you want, as usual with JAWS find.

The mouse will actually be placed on that word, especially if it is a link.

Now to move right slightly, press Alt-Shift-Right arrow, this will move the physical mouse three pixels by default. I believe you can change this default in settings.

Then left click in the same way you did with WE.

All the best
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 13:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi Steve,

I was the original poster for this topic. Yes, this would be for a web site.

With Window-Eyes, my brother could go to the site he needed and search for a specific word. He could then use the WE mouse keys and navigate up a certain number of pixels and then move slightly to the right, where he could then click on an upload button that was not seen by Window-Eyes. Here is an example:

The letter "a" in the word "name" is at position 200:200.
The button to upload is at position 205:185.
There is no text or graphic that is available to click on. To click
the button, he finds the a in name and then moves his mouse pointer up
from
200 to 185 by pressing the move up command three times and then moves to the right by pressing the move right command one time. He is then on the upload button and can use his mouse click key to press the button.

He never got to a place in Window-Eyes where he could set up a
placemarker, and he is only just getting started with Jaws. His PC is
a
Win10 desktop. How can one move by pixels in Jaws? Thank you.

Carol

On 10/25/2017 6:56 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

Place markers only work on the web, don't they?

The Snowman's Hotspot Clicker script would be better for this.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: 19 October 2017 18:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol

I come late to this discussion but...
When your Brother finally gets this particular area found with the mouse can he then use the place marker functions of JAWS to get there all the time?
If I understood the functions of this ability it can be website specific and he can just use the placemarker list to go directly to that point.
I just thought it was worth a suggestion.
Anyone with more experience with the placemarkers should absolutely jump in here and correct my understanding.
Shannon

















Re: Jaws 2018 and authorization.

Vic Beckley
 

I installed the released version right over my beta copy and everything went just fine.

 

 

Vic

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and authorization.

 

My experience says not to believe everything the VFO support person says.

I did not remove shared components or the user settings.

Perhaps others who have installed 2018 after having used the beta can chime in.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of andy.tidwell
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and authorization.

 

Hello Richard, I downloaded the new version and installed it over the beta one and I told the tech that and she told me that that was fine and

shouldn’t have anything to do with it because I ask her if I needed to un install the beta first and she said no.

I guess they will get to the bottom of it because she said that she installed hers the same way I did but un installing the beta may very well be the

reason for the flaw.

 

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:33 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and authorization.

 

I had uninstalled the beta before installing this new version.

When I check the Help, About, I do not have the word beta.

 

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of andy.tidwell
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2018 and authorization.

 

Hello everyone,

I just got off the phone with VO tech support and anyone that updated there Jaws 2018 out of beta and downloaded and installed the regular

version today you might want to go in to your jaws settings and check what it says in the about box and you might find the same thing I did.

Mine said jaws 2018 ILM beta 2018171036. I just got off the phone and tech support doesn’t know how to fix it right now.

They even had me remove my jaws authorization and re authorize it and that still didn’t fix it.

I just thought I would post this just incase any one else had this problem.Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?

Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?


Re: Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading to V 2018

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

As netbat said, you could always go into the settings/enu folder, rename the default.jkm file to something else. Then copy the default.jkm file from the machine that works to the work desktop computers settings/enu folder. If it doesn’t work, all you would need to do is delete the copied file and rename the old copy of default.jkm back to that filename from the one you chose as the renamed file.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading to V 2018

 

Well… SO I first went back and clicked on the last October JFW .exe file I had and the prompt of Jaws made changes to your computer. Restart for changes to take affect etc. Came up. I thought… … … cool maybe it’ll work after all. The PC restarted and I got the notification to modify/repair of which I selected repair. I let it do its thing. Pressed the various OK buttons and after it restarted again… … … the same reply/forward bug appeared.

So I figured, I’ll go ahead and just install the new JFW 2018 released today and as was suggested, not migrate any settings. Did the whole song and dance. Restarted the machine. Went through the startup wizard and… … … Low-and-behold, I’ve got the reply/forward bug on this new JFW version as well.

This is the only real issue I’m encountering. And on this one machine. JFW 2018 on my HP Envy laptop is working perfectly fine. At least not getting that reply/forward bug on it. Unfortunately, this is a rather noticeable bug and present on my main work desktop. Both running Office 2016/Windows 10.

I guess I’ll have to try uninstalling and reinstalling next. That will have to be with more time though.

I think someone on one of these lists said to also try removing shared components. I don’t think I want to do that… I don’t recall at the moment, but does removing shared components mean you’ll then need an activation key? I’m fairly certain that I’m currently at zero keys.

Anyway, something to worry about for tomorrow.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading to V 2018

 

Why not just install Jaws 2018, I would say at this point to set it up from scratch and not merge your settings when asked just so you get the best possible experience which is not effected by possibly some problem in your user settings.

Jaws 2018 does not require you to repair Jaws 18, in fact you could completely uninstall Jaws 18 and it would make no difference to Jaws 2018.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading to V 2018

 

Hello list,

So, I’ve been dealing with this issue since Jaws 18 was put out on 9/26/17. Along with the Outlook address thing that later got fixed, I was having trouble when replying or forwarding message in Outlook. Arrowing down was not possible. Jaws would behave as though I was at the bottom of the screen. Even if I arrowed up once and then tried going back down to the line I was previously at, I’d encounter that same barrier. Navigating the message body of text with the read by paragraph or sentence commands, Jaws worked as always. It was just the read/navigate by line that was giving me problems.

VFO tech support emailed me instructing that I should try doing a Jaws repair. Do the copy path from my JFW .exe file and add the / type repair at the end in the run dialog box.

As I saw that Jaws 2018 came out today, I figured I’d try to get this resolved. I for one reason or another hadn’t had the chance to go through with the repair, but figured I should try addressing it before upgrading to JFW 2018.

In any event, I went through the repair process earlier today and along with all the other typical Jaws chatter when doing an installation (I was using a JFW.exe file from October that addressed the Outlook issue), I heard Jaws say something about a sentinel system driver not being copied. By the end of the process I then got the following error message:

The JAWS setup package could not install the required component

JAWSRepair.  The process will now exit.

OK

I already wrote VFO back about this, but as it’s Jaws 2018 release day, I don’t expect a follow up any time soon as I’m sure they’ll be dealing with all sorts of stuff related to that.

Anyone have an idea on what this is or how to fix it?

Thanks,

Cristobal


Re: Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading to V 2018

netbat66
 

is this when just useing the down arrow key on the number pad?
when i press it in a wlm message i am also put at the bottom of file. i can not arrow down one line at a time.
i'm getting close. grin
if this is happening its the default.jkm (jaws keyboard manager.
i went into the jaws/18.0/settings/enu folder and renamed it to 1default.jkm . (do not delete it) so jaws can't find the file. once i did this the problem went away.
then you can rename it back.
so there is some setting in the default keyboard manager script thats causeing the problem. but who knows which setting it is. grin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading to V 2018



Hello list,

So, I’ve been dealing with this issue since Jaws 18 was put out on 9/26/17. Along with the Outlook address thing that later got fixed, I was having trouble when replying or forwarding message in Outlook. Arrowing down was not possible. Jaws would behave as though I was at the bottom of the screen. Even if I arrowed up once and then tried going back down to the line I was previously at, I’d encounter that same barrier. Navigating the message body of text with the read by paragraph or sentence commands, Jaws worked as always. It was just the read/navigate by line that was giving me problems.

VFO tech support emailed me instructing that I should try doing a Jaws repair. Do the copy path from my JFW .exe file and add the / type repair at the end in the run dialog box.

As I saw that Jaws 2018 came out today, I figured I’d try to get this resolved. I for one reason or another hadn’t had the chance to go through with the repair, but figured I should try addressing it before upgrading to JFW 2018.

In any event, I went through the repair process earlier today and along with all the other typical Jaws chatter when doing an installation (I was using a JFW.exe file from October that addressed the Outlook issue), I heard Jaws say something about a sentinel system driver not being copied. By the end of the process I then got the following error message:

The JAWS setup package could not install the required component

JAWSRepair. The process will now exit.

OK

I already wrote VFO back about this, but as it’s Jaws 2018 release day, I don’t expect a follow up any time soon as I’m sure they’ll be dealing with all sorts of stuff related to that.

Anyone have an idea on what this is or how to fix it?

Thanks,

Cristobal


Re: Edge tutorial

David Moore
 

Hi all!

Here is my text tutorial on using the Microsoft Edge Browser.

I explain what I am doing, and what JAWS is saying, so you can follow along on your computer.

Edge works very well, with JAWS 2018.

Here is the tutorial right below, pasted right here:

Tutorial for Using Microsoft Edge

By

David Moore

I am using the latest public build of Windows 10 Creators update.

If you are using anything different than that, you might get different results.

When you can press spacebar or enter, I will list them both.

If I only list enter, that means that you can only use enter.

If I only list Spacebar, that means that you can only press spacebar to toggle something, for example.

I have a list of all key commands for Edge at the end of this tutorial. Through the tutorial, I will point out many key commands as well, as I go.

 

Section Number One

Opening the Edge Browser:

Press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape, to open the start area. Next, type Edge and enter when Narrator announces it.

Press enter, and the Edge browser should open.

 

Section Number Two

Opening the Freedom Scientific Web Site:

I pressed CTRL+L (alt+D works as well) and entered:

www.freedomscientific.com

That is the site for Freedom Scientific.

The web site came up very quickly.

I can use all navigation keys, like H for heading, C for Combo Box, E for edit area, , for example, just like other browsers, and they all work.

Section Three

Pressing alt+X to get a large Virticle Menu:

Now, I will now press ALT+X to open the settings and more menu! This is to the right of the address bar, but Alt+X opens this same menu. We have a lot in this virticle menu.a large virticle menu of choices. When I down arrow, I here the following:

New Window (CTRL+N), New InPrivate Window (CTRL+SHIFT+P), Zoom out, Zoom in, Cast media to device, Find on page, Print, Pin this page to Start, F12 Developer Tools, Open with Internet Explorer, Send feedback, Extensions, What's new and Tips, and finally, Settings. Extensions and Settings are the main two choices we are interested in with this menu. Key commands will do the rest.

Next, I will talk about settings.

Section Four:

Navigating settings and Advance settings:

Press alt+X again, and up arrow once to settings, because that is the last choice.

Press enter on settings.

You will hear:

Choose a Theme light.

Don't worry about that!

Tab once, and you will hear:

Open Microsoft Edge with a page or set of pages combo box.

This is how you choose how you want Microsoft Edge to open.

I have mine set to a specific page or pages.

Now, Tab again, and you have an edit field where you can type in your pages that you want opened When Microsoft Edge is launched.

I just entered:

www.google.com

Therefore, when I start Edge, the Google home page opens for me.

Tabbing again:

I hear delete button, where you can press spacebar or enter to delete your page or pages.

Tabbing again, I hear Add Button, where you can press spacebar or enter and add another page that you want to open when Edge is started.

Tabbing again, I hear:

Open new tabs with combo box.

I have this set to a blank page.

Tab again, and you will hear:

Import from another browser button.

You can press spacebar or enter here to import all favorites and settings from other browsers you use, like IE 11 or Chrome, or Firefox.

Tab again, and you will hear:

Show the favorites bar toggle.

I have this unchecked, because I do not want everyone to see my favorites on a bar right on the Edge Window. Press spacebar to check or uncheck..

Tab again, and you hear:

Choose what to clear.

If you press spacebar on this, you can tab and check or uncheck what is cleared when you delete your history. You can also choose whether this should be cleared every time you close the Edge browser.

Tab, and you will either hear Account Settings or your MSA account link, depending on your account setting.

Tabbing again, I hear:

Sync your favorites and reading list unchecked.

You definitely want to check this by pressing spacebar, so all of your Edge data will be synced between all of your devices. If you do not want this, then uncheck it with spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Sync device settings link.

Tab again, and you hear:

View Advanced settings button.

This is important, and I will cover that in a bit.

Tab again, and you hear:

Terms of use link.

Tab again, and you hear:

Privacy statement link.

Tab again, and you hear:

Pin this pane button.

Tab again, and you hear:

Change my default button.

We are back to the beginning of settings. Now, let us go through the advanced settings.

Next, press Alt+X, and up arrow once to settings, and press enter. Now, Shift tab to Advanced settings, since that was almost at the end of what we tabbed through. Go ahead and enter on the advanced settings. There is a lot you can customise here.  Let’s tab through this menu.

Press enter on Advanced Settings, and you hear:

Show the home button toggle.

I have this pressed, by using spacebar, because I want my home page to show in the Edge Window!

Tab again, and you hear:

A specific page collapsed. This is what I want.

Tab again, and there is an edit field to put the URL of what you want your home page to be.

I want my home page to be the same page is my start page, so I just enter:

www.google.com

to be my home page.

Now:

www.google.com

is my start page and my home page.

To go back to your home page from anywhere, just press:

Alt+Home

Tab again, and you hear:

Save Button.

Press spacebar or enter on this to save your home page.

You now hear:

block pop-ups toggle.

I have mine unchecked, by using the spacebar, because I want pages to come up, that are considered pop-ups.

However, to keep safe, you should probably have that checked, so Edge will indeed block pop-ups.

This is up to you.

Tab again, and you hear:

Use Adobe Flash Player.

I have this checked, with the spacebar, because a lot of web sites still need Adobe flash to play videos and the like.

Tab again, and you hear:

Open sites in apps.

I have this checked with spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Choose which sites open in apps button.

I have this checked. Next, Choose which sites open in apps.  This will launch the Settings app where you can customize whether to open certain web site in an app or in the browser.

Tab again, and you hear:

Change button.

I hear change button, you can use this to change where to save downloaded files to.

Tab again, and you hear:

Ask me what to do with each download toggle.

I have that checked, with spacebar, because when I download something, I want it to ask me if I want to save or open and so on.

Tab again, and you hear:

Open Proxy settings button.

I left this alone.

Tab again, and you hear:

Manage button.

I left this alone.

Tab again, and you hear:

Learn more link.

Tab again, and you hear:

Offer to save passwords toggle.

I checked this, with spacebar, so I can have a password saved if I want.

Tab again, and you hear:

Manage Passwords button.

I left this alone.

Tab again, and you hear:

Save form entries toggle.

I have this checked with spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Send do not track requests toggle.

I have this unchecked with spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Have Cortana assist me in Microsoft Edge.

I have mine turnned on with spacebar. If you want this off, just press spacebar until you hear unchecked or off. sometimes, it will say on or off, or, it will say checked or unchecked. You will hear both ways spoken, but they are the same.

Tab again, and you hear:

Change Search Engine button:

This is important, because I pressed space bar or enter on that, and it was a combo box that was set on Bing. Keep that if you want, but I changed mine to Google.

I like Google to do my searches rather than Bing.

When you are done with this, Tab and hear will hear:

Back button.

Press space on that, to go back to the advanced settings that we are in.

The back button shows up a lot in Edge, so you can just go back to where you were.

Tab again, and you hear:

Show search and site suggestions as I type toggle.

I used spacebar to uncheck that, because I do not like suggestions to populate as I type in the address bar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Clear Bing search history link.

I did nothing with that.

Tab again, and you hear:

Optimize Taskbar web search results for screen readers.

Mine is check; to uncheck, just use spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Don't block cookies combo box collapsed.

I left that alone.

Tab again, and you hear:

Let sites save protected media licenses on my device.

This is checked.

Tab again, and you hear:

Use page prodiction to speed up websites.

I have this check. To uncheck, just use spacebar, but you want this checked.

Tab again, and you hear:

Help protect me from malicious sites and downloads with Windows Defender Smartscreen toggle.

I kept this checked.

Tab again, and you hear:

Pin this Pane button.

Tab again, and you hear:

Back button.

Guess what this is for.

Entering on this takes you back to just plain old settings.

Remember, we entered on Advanced settings within settings.

Pressing spacebar or enter on this back button, takes you back to settings where we chose our start page and all of that.

Therefore, we are all done with Settings.

Look at what you know already, just by pressing Alt+X, up arrow once to settings, and press enter, tab through settings, enter on advanced settings, tab through those settings, and press enter on the back button to get you back to settings, and just press escape twice to get out of settings, and you are back on the Freedom Scientific web site we started out with.

Important:

You must press escape twice to get out of settings and back on to the Freedom Scientific web site.

 

Section Five

Getting to, and navigating the Hub.

Now, I will show you how to get to the Hub.  The Hub is located just after the address bar area.  It has 5 tabs: Favorites, Reading list, Books, History and Downloads. However, instead of often coming here, we will activate three of these tabs with key commands right from your web site.

Now, this is where your starting place will be a lot in Edge:

Press alt+D or CTRL+L to get to the address bar or whatever it is called in Edge LOL!

Important, we will get to everything else by tabbing or shift tabbing from the address bar. However, you won't need to do this often, because we can activate this stuff by key commands right from the Web site. The address bar is your starting place, so you can tab to get to everything else that we will talk about in Edge. If you get on that address bar, you are set to get to everything else that is on top of the Edge Window.

So now, from the Freedom Scientific web site:

Press Alt+D or CTRL+L

You should hear the URL of the Freedom Scientific web site.

You are on the address bar, our starting place.

Tab once, and you hear:

Add to favorites or reading list button.

If you press enter here, you will save the Freedom Scientific web site that we are on in your favorites. However, you can do this by just pressing CTRL+D from the web site. Just press enter, and tab to save and press enter. This is how you will save a web site in your favorites.

Tab again, and you hear:

Hub ( Favorites, Reading List, Books, History, and Downloads toggle button not pressed.

Now, just tab a few times to get back to the web site. That is all you need to do from up here. You can also press F6 to get from this upper area back to the web site.

To get back to the Hub, press Ctrl + I to open the first tab in the Hub, the Favorites tab.

You will hear Narrator announce Hub, Favorites window, tab control, Favorite tab selected 1 of 5.

Here we are in our favorites.  I can tab twice to the list of favorites then arrow up and down through my favorites.

If I Shift+Tab twice, I am back on the five tabs. I can navigate these tabs, by just pressing the right and left arrow keys. Press right arrow, and you will hear the other four tabs, Reading list, Books, History, and Downloads.

When you right arrow to the Books tab, Tab from here, and I hear Get Books button, Sign in button, and Shop for Books button. This is exciting.

The fourth tab is the History tab, you can press Ctrl + H to get to it directly.

I can delete my history, and look at my history here.

The 5th and last tab, is my Downloads tab.  Open it by pressing Ctrl + J.  Here is where you come to view your downloads, and check on the status of a download in progress.

So, that is it for the HUB button.

I pressed Esc to get out of Hub. The only two tabs that there are not key commands to go to them are the Books and Reading list, which you will not use that much anyway.

I just want you to see that you can press right and left arrow keys on the tabs, but you can get to those tabs with one of the three key commands:

CTRL+I for the Favorites tab, CTRL+H, for the History Tab, and CTRL+J for the downloads tab.

We are done with using the Hub!

 

Section Six:

Key commands for using Microsoft Edge:

Here are many key commands to navigate and work with Edge. Many of these are the same as in other browsers.

Microsoft Edge keyboard shortcuts

table with 2 columns and 40 rows

Press this key

To do this 

Ctrl + D

Add current site to favorites or reading list

 Ctrl + I

Open favorites pane

 Ctrl + J

Open downloads pane

 Ctrl + H

Open history pane

 Ctrl + P

Print the current page

 Ctrl + F

Find on page

Alt + C

Open Cortana while you are in Edge!

Ctrl + Shift + R

Enter reading view

 Ctrl + T

Open a new tab 

Ctrl + Shift + T

Reopen the last closed tab 

Ctrl + W or Ctrl + F4

Close the active tab 

Ctrl + K

Duplicate tab 

Ctrl + N

Open a new window 

Ctrl + Shift + P

Open a new InPrivate Browsing window 

Ctrl + Tab

Switch to the next tab 

Ctrl + Shift + Tab

Switch to the previous tab 

Ctrl + 1, 2, 3, and so on

Switch to a specific tab number 

Ctrl + 9

Switch to the last tab 

Ctrl + plus

Zoom in (25%) 

Ctrl + minus

Zoom out (25%) 

Ctrl + 0

Reset zoom level 

Backspace or Alt + Left arrow

Go back to last web page

Alt + Right arrow

Go forward to next web page

F5 or Ctrl + R

Refresh the page 

Escape

Stop loading the page 

Ctrl + L or F4 or Alt + D

Select the address bar 

Ctrl + Shift + L

Open address bar query in a new tab 

Ctrl + E

Open a search query in the address bar 

Ctrl + Enter

Add www. to the beginning and .com to the end of text typed in the address bar 

Ctrl + click

Open link in a new tab 

Ctrl + Shift + click

Open link in a new tab and switch to that tab 

Alt + Shift + click

Open link in a new window  

Ctrl + Shift +M

 Start creating web notes 

Ctrl + Alt + M

 Copy selected content into a web note 

F12

Open F12 Developer Tools   

Ctrl + U

 View source 

F6

 Toggle focus between webpage content and the address bar 

F7

 Turn caret browsing on for the active tab 

Ctrl + Shift + Delete

 Show controls to clear browsing data

 

Please give me your feed back, and how much you hear what I hear when tabbing and the like.

That is all for this tutorial.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Nino Dagostino
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 4:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Edge tutorial

 

Hi:

Where can I get the edge tutorial?

Thank you

 


Re: Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading to V 2018

netbat66
 

have you tried running the setup with jaws unloaded?
it may be that it couldn't install the drivers or files because they were still in use.
i use n v d a when i install jaws. it hasn't caused any crashes yet. grin.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading to V 2018

I had to do a repair which went through but did not fix my problems.
Vfo told me to uninstall including shared components which will make
things not work and to immediately install the same version.


On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:36:00 -0400,
Crist��bal wrote:

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Hello list,

So, I��ve been dealing with this issue since Jaws 18 was put out on 9/26/17. Along with the Outlook address thing that later got fixed, I was having trouble when replying or forwarding message in Outlook. Arrowing down was not possible.
Jaws would behave as though I was at the bottom of the screen. Even if I arrowed up once and then tried going back down to the line I was previously at, I��d encounter that same barrier. Navigating the message body of text with the read
by paragraph or sentence commands, Jaws worked as always. It was just the read/navigate by line that was giving me problems.

VFO tech support emailed me instructing that I should try doing a Jaws repair. Do the copy path from my JFW .exe file and add the / type repair at the end in the run dialog box.

As I saw that Jaws 2018 came out today, I figured I��d try to get this resolved. I for one reason or another hadn��t had the chance to go through with the repair, but figured I should try addressing it before upgrading to JFW 2018.

In any event, I went through the repair process earlier today and along with all the other typical Jaws chatter when doing an installation (I was using a JFW.exe file from October that addressed the Outlook issue), I heard Jaws say
something about a sentinel system driver not being copied. By the end of the process I then got the following error message:

The JAWS setup package could not install the required component

JAWSRepair. The process will now exit.

OK

I already wrote VFO back about this, but as it��s Jaws 2018 release day, I don��t expect a follow up any time soon as I��m sure they��ll be dealing with all sorts of stuff related to that.

Anyone have an idea on what this is or how to fix it?

Thanks,

Cristobal

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com