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Re: downloading jaws

Richard Turner
 


i'm assuming this requires an SMA as it is a full version upgrade?
Richard


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On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:20 AM, george b <gbmagoo@...> wrote:

Go to freedomscientific.com
Click on downloads
Choose jaws
Choose the version you need
Choose save not run
When finished close browser
Find the download and click on it to install

Hows that

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: October 25, 2017 9:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading jaws

I'm new to jaws. What is the proper way to upgrade to this new release?
I went into Jaws help to check for upgrades and it said I was current.
Thanks for any info.








trouble installing 2018

dennis
 

i have downloaded the program 4 times and it will not install. it starts and after about 5 seconds completely quits.anyone else having this problem?


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Re: downloading jaws

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Go to freedomscientific.com
Click on downloads
Choose jaws
Choose the version you need
Choose save not run
When finished close browser
Find the download and click on it to install

Hows that

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: October 25, 2017 9:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading jaws

I'm new to jaws. What is the proper way to upgrade to this new release?
I went into Jaws help to check for upgrades and it said I was current.
Thanks for any info.


downloading jaws

Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
 

I'm new to jaws. What is the proper way to upgrade to this new release? I went into Jaws help to check for upgrades and it said I was current. Thanks for any info.


Re: windows powershell

John Covici
 

Maybe you have key echo set differently?

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 11:33:12 -0400,
Soronel Haetir wrote:

I rarely use powershell but I can tell you that I do not experience a
double character echo. I could not tell you what settings difference
to look at, just letting you know that this is not an inherent problem
with jaws.

On 10/25/17, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
OK, I will try that. Thanks.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:03:20 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi again, John,

What I am talking about would be the same as toggling speech for
the keyboard. It would not change anything else that
happens. For example, I type with words spoken after I press
space instead of hearing each character one at a time. It is
also possible to turn keyboard speech off, but I like to hear
what I am typing. The solution I suggested would allow you to
input something without it speaking which key is pressed, but
could allow the screen to speak what just showed up. This was
something I used to experience, pressing a key and having it
spoken as a keyboard press and then having it repeated as an item
written to the screen. The key still works as it was meant to,
but does not speak twice.

Carol


On 10/25/2017 8:22 AM, John Covici wrote:
Thanks -- but why would that be true in that program and not true in
the command prompt? Also, if I do that, will I be able to use the
arrow keys to edit the line? I will do some experimenting.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:07:26 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi John,

I don't know if this will help you, but you might try
insert-numrow 2 which toggles speech through none, characters,
words and characters and words. You may be getting echo of both
screen input and keyboard input.

Carol


On 10/25/2017 6:00 AM, John Covici wrote:
Hi. I am trying to use windows powershell which is their better
command processor with Jaws, but it repeats each character twice when
I type it. Is there any setting to fix this problem, or do you know
of a script I can get to do so?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



--
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How do
you spend it?

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covici@...




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How do
you spend it?

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Problems with Excel

Brenda Emerson-Alford
 

Hello,

 

This is my first time writing to this group.  I have been using JAWS for over 20 years.  I recently went into Windows 10 and have the latest version of JAWS 18 running.  I am using MS Office 2016.  I have worked through most of the things that are different from Windows 7 and Office 2010.  However, in the past month I have come across a real problem in excel.  I am having problems with JAWS either becoming so delayed that I wait more than 30 seconds when I try to arrow to the next cell or sometimes JAWS just turns itself off.  When I initially open the excel program everything seems to work fine but after about three to 5 minutes this problem starts.  I am working in spreadsheets I have had for several years.  I am not sure if this is part of the problem or not. 

 

Any suggestions on what I can do to fix this problem are greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks.

 


Jaws 2018 Is Out

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Hi just wanted to let you all know that Jaws 2018 is out.

I just installed it.

 

Pastor Gil


Re: how to insert row in excel

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

I got a fair bit out of the FS paid webinar, but it has gone up in price since.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: October 24, 2017 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to insert row in excel

 

Hi,

This is really nice.  I was using the context (applications) key, but this is even easier.  Is there a place where one can get a list of these types of commands for faster navigation through the program?  I don't do much with spreadsheets, but would like to learn more.  There are things I could do if I had more knowledge.  I did take a Hadley course a couple of years ago and it was enough to help me get started.  However, there is much more available that could simplify things even better.  Thank you. 

Carol

On 10/24/2017 1:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

It is simply Control+NumPad+, if I said Cpontrol+Shift previously I apologize

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to insert row in excel

 

I have the latest version of Jaws, both release and beta of 2018; Excel 2016 via the Office 365 subscription, on a Windows 10 machine running the Fall creator’s update  and control+shift+numpad+ does nothing.

 

But, application key, I, enter, then r and enter  inserts a row, etc.

It would be wonderful if the hotkey worked.

Is there an addon I am missing or something?

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to insert row in excel

 

Another shortcut is

Control+Numpad+, that is basically Control+PC Cursor. It will bring up the insert menu, then Alt+r will insert an entire row, Alt+C an entire column and you don’t even have to press the numlock for this to work.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to insert row in excel

 

Even easier, Excel remembers the old menu commands in many cases. So, Insert I,  then r for row or c for column works, too.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to insert row in excel

 

Alt H, I, R

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: October 20, 2017 10:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: how to insert row in excel

 

I created a sheet in excel 2007

And need to place an additional  row

But can not find how to do that.

Alt I does not give me the option.

Nor clicking insert after hitting alt gives me the option.

What am I missing?

Running windows 10, 17.o9 jaws 2018 beta 3

All help is appreciated

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Re: windows powershell

Soronel Haetir
 

I rarely use powershell but I can tell you that I do not experience a
double character echo. I could not tell you what settings difference
to look at, just letting you know that this is not an inherent problem
with jaws.

On 10/25/17, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
OK, I will try that. Thanks.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:03:20 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi again, John,

What I am talking about would be the same as toggling speech for
the keyboard. It would not change anything else that
happens. For example, I type with words spoken after I press
space instead of hearing each character one at a time. It is
also possible to turn keyboard speech off, but I like to hear
what I am typing. The solution I suggested would allow you to
input something without it speaking which key is pressed, but
could allow the screen to speak what just showed up. This was
something I used to experience, pressing a key and having it
spoken as a keyboard press and then having it repeated as an item
written to the screen. The key still works as it was meant to,
but does not speak twice.

Carol


On 10/25/2017 8:22 AM, John Covici wrote:
Thanks -- but why would that be true in that program and not true in
the command prompt? Also, if I do that, will I be able to use the
arrow keys to edit the line? I will do some experimenting.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:07:26 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi John,

I don't know if this will help you, but you might try
insert-numrow 2 which toggles speech through none, characters,
words and characters and words. You may be getting echo of both
screen input and keyboard input.

Carol


On 10/25/2017 6:00 AM, John Covici wrote:
Hi. I am trying to use windows powershell which is their better
command processor with Jaws, but it repeats each character twice when
I type it. Is there any setting to fix this problem, or do you know
of a script I can get to do so?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...



--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol Smith
 

If you would have read further, you would have seen that he answered my question.

Carol

On 10/25/2017 10:52 AM, george b wrote:
Steve don't you think just putting hi in a email is kind of silly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: October 25, 2017 7:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 14:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Thank you. This is exactly what I am looking for. Wouldn't I need to route the Jaws cursor before clicking? My Jaws cursor does not always follow my PC cursor.

Carol

Carol,

Not if you are on a link, because the mouse tends to follow links in my experience, but it wouldn't hurt to route the cursor anyway.

All the best

Steve
On 10/25/2017 8:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

OK, here's a thought.

Find the word you want, as usual with JAWS find.

The mouse will actually be placed on that word, especially if it is a link.

Now to move right slightly, press Alt-Shift-Right arrow, this will move the physical mouse three pixels by default. I believe you can change this default in settings.

Then left click in the same way you did with WE.

All the best
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 13:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi Steve,

I was the original poster for this topic. Yes, this would be for a web site.

With Window-Eyes, my brother could go to the site he needed and search for a specific word. He could then use the WE mouse keys and navigate up a certain number of pixels and then move slightly to the right, where he could then click on an upload button that was not seen by Window-Eyes. Here is an example:

The letter "a" in the word "name" is at position 200:200.
The button to upload is at position 205:185.
There is no text or graphic that is available to click on. To click
the button, he finds the a in name and then moves his mouse pointer up
from
200 to 185 by pressing the move up command three times and then moves to the right by pressing the move right command one time. He is then on the upload button and can use his mouse click key to press the button.

He never got to a place in Window-Eyes where he could set up a
placemarker, and he is only just getting started with Jaws. His PC is
a
Win10 desktop. How can one move by pixels in Jaws? Thank you.

Carol

On 10/25/2017 6:56 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

Place markers only work on the web, don't they?

The Snowman's Hotspot Clicker script would be better for this.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: 19 October 2017 18:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol

I come late to this discussion but...
When your Brother finally gets this particular area found with the mouse can he then use the place marker functions of JAWS to get there all the time?
If I understood the functions of this ability it can be website specific and he can just use the placemarker list to go directly to that point.
I just thought it was worth a suggestion.
Anyone with more experience with the placemarkers should absolutely jump in here and correct my understanding.
Shannon


























Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Steve don't you think just putting hi in a email is kind of silly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: October 25, 2017 7:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 14:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Thank you. This is exactly what I am looking for. Wouldn't I need to route the Jaws cursor before clicking? My Jaws cursor does not always follow my PC cursor.

Carol

Carol,

Not if you are on a link, because the mouse tends to follow links in my experience, but it wouldn't hurt to route the cursor anyway.

All the best

Steve
On 10/25/2017 8:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

OK, here's a thought.

Find the word you want, as usual with JAWS find.

The mouse will actually be placed on that word, especially if it is a link.

Now to move right slightly, press Alt-Shift-Right arrow, this will move the physical mouse three pixels by default. I believe you can change this default in settings.

Then left click in the same way you did with WE.

All the best
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 13:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi Steve,

I was the original poster for this topic. Yes, this would be for a web site.

With Window-Eyes, my brother could go to the site he needed and search for a specific word. He could then use the WE mouse keys and navigate up a certain number of pixels and then move slightly to the right, where he could then click on an upload button that was not seen by Window-Eyes. Here is an example:

The letter "a" in the word "name" is at position 200:200.
The button to upload is at position 205:185.
There is no text or graphic that is available to click on. To click
the button, he finds the a in name and then moves his mouse pointer up
from
200 to 185 by pressing the move up command three times and then moves to the right by pressing the move right command one time. He is then on the upload button and can use his mouse click key to press the button.

He never got to a place in Window-Eyes where he could set up a
placemarker, and he is only just getting started with Jaws. His PC is
a
Win10 desktop. How can one move by pixels in Jaws? Thank you.

Carol

On 10/25/2017 6:56 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

Place markers only work on the web, don't they?

The Snowman's Hotspot Clicker script would be better for this.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: 19 October 2017 18:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol

I come late to this discussion but...
When your Brother finally gets this particular area found with the mouse can he then use the place marker functions of JAWS to get there all the time?
If I understood the functions of this ability it can be website specific and he can just use the placemarker list to go directly to that point.
I just thought it was worth a suggestion.
Anyone with more experience with the placemarkers should absolutely jump in here and correct my understanding.
Shannon

















Re: windows powershell

John Covici
 

OK, I will try that. Thanks.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:03:20 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi again, John,

What I am talking about would be the same as toggling speech for
the keyboard. It would not change anything else that
happens. For example, I type with words spoken after I press
space instead of hearing each character one at a time. It is
also possible to turn keyboard speech off, but I like to hear
what I am typing. The solution I suggested would allow you to
input something without it speaking which key is pressed, but
could allow the screen to speak what just showed up. This was
something I used to experience, pressing a key and having it
spoken as a keyboard press and then having it repeated as an item
written to the screen. The key still works as it was meant to,
but does not speak twice.

Carol


On 10/25/2017 8:22 AM, John Covici wrote:
Thanks -- but why would that be true in that program and not true in
the command prompt? Also, if I do that, will I be able to use the
arrow keys to edit the line? I will do some experimenting.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:07:26 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi John,

I don't know if this will help you, but you might try
insert-numrow 2 which toggles speech through none, characters,
words and characters and words. You may be getting echo of both
screen input and keyboard input.

Carol


On 10/25/2017 6:00 AM, John Covici wrote:
Hi. I am trying to use windows powershell which is their better
command processor with Jaws, but it repeats each character twice when
I type it. Is there any setting to fix this problem, or do you know
of a script I can get to do so?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...


Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Steve Nutt
 

Hi

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 14:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Thank you. This is exactly what I am looking for. Wouldn't I need to route the Jaws cursor before clicking? My Jaws cursor does not always follow my PC cursor.

Carol

Carol,

Not if you are on a link, because the mouse tends to follow links in my experience, but it wouldn't hurt to route the cursor anyway.

All the best

Steve
On 10/25/2017 8:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

OK, here's a thought.

Find the word you want, as usual with JAWS find.

The mouse will actually be placed on that word, especially if it is a link.

Now to move right slightly, press Alt-Shift-Right arrow, this will move the physical mouse three pixels by default. I believe you can change this default in settings.

Then left click in the same way you did with WE.

All the best
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 13:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi Steve,

I was the original poster for this topic. Yes, this would be for a web site.

With Window-Eyes, my brother could go to the site he needed and search for a specific word. He could then use the WE mouse keys and navigate up a certain number of pixels and then move slightly to the right, where he could then click on an upload button that was not seen by Window-Eyes. Here is an example:

The letter "a" in the word "name" is at position 200:200.
The button to upload is at position 205:185.
There is no text or graphic that is available to click on. To click
the button, he finds the a in name and then moves his mouse pointer up
from
200 to 185 by pressing the move up command three times and then moves to the right by pressing the move right command one time. He is then on the upload button and can use his mouse click key to press the button.

He never got to a place in Window-Eyes where he could set up a
placemarker, and he is only just getting started with Jaws. His PC is
a
Win10 desktop. How can one move by pixels in Jaws? Thank you.

Carol

On 10/25/2017 6:56 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

Place markers only work on the web, don't they?

The Snowman's Hotspot Clicker script would be better for this.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: 19 October 2017 18:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol

I come late to this discussion but...
When your Brother finally gets this particular area found with the mouse can he then use the place marker functions of JAWS to get there all the time?
If I understood the functions of this ability it can be website specific and he can just use the placemarker list to go directly to that point.
I just thought it was worth a suggestion.
Anyone with more experience with the placemarkers should absolutely jump in here and correct my understanding.
Shannon

















Re: e-mail address question

david
 

hello;

the only way I know to do this is;

1, highlight the email address you wish to view,
2, press the applications key up arrow enter on properties,
you land on general tab, you need to get to, details,
using the right arrow key,
or, ctrl+tab,
now tab once, go to the top of the page, you should find the email address.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Pearson
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: e-mail address question

Hi David:

Thanks for the reply, and info. Sometimes, I'd like to know the e-mail
address of a particular sender who's not yet a "contact". Is this possible
with WLM?

Thank you,



DSP

-----Original Message-----
From: david
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: e-mail address question

hello;
if you want to read an email address from your inbox using windows live
mail,
you will have to do this through the contacts.

1, ctrl+3=contacts,

now you can either do a search, or you can simply down arrow until you hear
the address you wish to read,

once you find the contact which you wish to read,
press the applications key enter on edit contact,
now you're in the summary page,
now use the keystroke, alt+t,
now you can use the tab key to move through the various edit fields, when
you find the email address, you can use the arrow keys, right and left to
read the email address.
when finished? press escape.
now, ctrl+1 to get back into the inbox.

hope this helps.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Pearson
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 12:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: e-mail address question

Hello all:

Is there a method to "read" an e-mail address from onelocated in my in-box,
and if yes, how is this done?

Sincerely yours,



David Pearson


Re: e-mail address question

David Pearson
 

Hi David:

Thanks for the reply, and info. Sometimes, I'd like to know the e-mail address of a particular sender who's not yet a "contact". Is this possible with WLM?

Thank you,



DSP

-----Original Message-----
From: david
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: e-mail address question

hello;
if you want to read an email address from your inbox using windows live
mail,
you will have to do this through the contacts.

1, ctrl+3=contacts,

now you can either do a search, or you can simply down arrow until you hear
the address you wish to read,

once you find the contact which you wish to read,
press the applications key enter on edit contact,
now you're in the summary page,
now use the keystroke, alt+t,
now you can use the tab key to move through the various edit fields, when
you find the email address, you can use the arrow keys, right and left to
read the email address.
when finished? press escape.
now, ctrl+1 to get back into the inbox.

hope this helps.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Pearson
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 12:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: e-mail address question

Hello all:

Is there a method to "read" an e-mail address from onelocated in my in-box,
and if yes, how is this done?

Sincerely yours,



David Pearson


Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol Smith
 

Thank you. This is exactly what I am looking for. Wouldn't I need to route the Jaws cursor before clicking? My Jaws cursor does not always follow my PC cursor.

Carol

On 10/25/2017 8:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

OK, here's a thought.

Find the word you want, as usual with JAWS find.

The mouse will actually be placed on that word, especially if it is a link.

Now to move right slightly, press Alt-Shift-Right arrow, this will move the physical mouse three pixels by default. I believe you can change this default in settings.

Then left click in the same way you did with WE.

All the best
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 13:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi Steve,

I was the original poster for this topic. Yes, this would be for a web site.

With Window-Eyes, my brother could go to the site he needed and search for a specific word. He could then use the WE mouse keys and navigate up a certain number of pixels and then move slightly to the right, where he could then click on an upload button that was not seen by Window-Eyes. Here is an example:

The letter "a" in the word "name" is at position 200:200.
The button to upload is at position 205:185.
There is no text or graphic that is available to click on. To click the button, he finds the a in name and then moves his mouse pointer up from
200 to 185 by pressing the move up command three times and then moves to the right by pressing the move right command one time. He is then on the upload button and can use his mouse click key to press the button.

He never got to a place in Window-Eyes where he could set up a placemarker, and he is only just getting started with Jaws. His PC is a
Win10 desktop. How can one move by pixels in Jaws? Thank you.

Carol

On 10/25/2017 6:56 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

Place markers only work on the web, don't they?

The Snowman's Hotspot Clicker script would be better for this.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: 19 October 2017 18:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol

I come late to this discussion but...
When your Brother finally gets this particular area found with the mouse can he then use the place marker functions of JAWS to get there all the time?
If I understood the functions of this ability it can be website specific and he can just use the placemarker list to go directly to that point.
I just thought it was worth a suggestion.
Anyone with more experience with the placemarkers should absolutely jump in here and correct my understanding.
Shannon
















Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol Smith
 

Actually, the site is not important, but the ability to move around is. I don't have the address for the site and it is password-protected, so even if we had the main page, we couldn't access the important portion. I am thinking any page with a button on it might do fine for testing.

Carol

On 10/25/2017 8:47 AM, Nermin via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Carol,

you can only move by pixels using the JAWS cursor, but I don't remember the keystroke at the moment.
I don't think it would be useful on a web page though.

What's the address of that site?

Regards,
Nermin



Re: windows powershell

Carol Smith
 

Hi again, John,

What I am talking about would be the same as toggling speech for the keyboard. It would not change anything else that happens. For example, I type with words spoken after I press space instead of hearing each character one at a time. It is also possible to turn keyboard speech off, but I like to hear what I am typing. The solution I suggested would allow you to input something without it speaking which key is pressed, but could allow the screen to speak what just showed up. This was something I used to experience, pressing a key and having it spoken as a keyboard press and then having it repeated as an item written to the screen. The key still works as it was meant to, but does not speak twice.

Carol

On 10/25/2017 8:22 AM, John Covici wrote:
Thanks -- but why would that be true in that program and not true in
the command prompt? Also, if I do that, will I be able to use the
arrow keys to edit the line? I will do some experimenting.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:07:26 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi John,

I don't know if this will help you, but you might try
insert-numrow 2 which toggles speech through none, characters,
words and characters and words. You may be getting echo of both
screen input and keyboard input.

Carol


On 10/25/2017 6:00 AM, John Covici wrote:
Hi. I am trying to use windows powershell which is their better
command processor with Jaws, but it repeats each character twice when
I type it. Is there any setting to fix this problem, or do you know
of a script I can get to do so?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Steve Nutt
 

Yes it is, it works well. Alt-Shift-Arrow keys.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nermin via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 13:47
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi Carol,

you can only move by pixels using the JAWS cursor, but I don't remember the keystroke at the moment.
I don't think it would be useful on a web page though.

What's the address of that site?

Regards,
Nermin


Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

OK, here's a thought.

Find the word you want, as usual with JAWS find.

The mouse will actually be placed on that word, especially if it is a link.

Now to move right slightly, press Alt-Shift-Right arrow, this will move the physical mouse three pixels by default. I believe you can change this default in settings.

Then left click in the same way you did with WE.

All the best
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 October 2017 13:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi Steve,

I was the original poster for this topic. Yes, this would be for a web site.

With Window-Eyes, my brother could go to the site he needed and search for a specific word. He could then use the WE mouse keys and navigate up a certain number of pixels and then move slightly to the right, where he could then click on an upload button that was not seen by Window-Eyes. Here is an example:

The letter "a" in the word "name" is at position 200:200.
The button to upload is at position 205:185.
There is no text or graphic that is available to click on. To click the button, he finds the a in name and then moves his mouse pointer up from
200 to 185 by pressing the move up command three times and then moves to the right by pressing the move right command one time. He is then on the upload button and can use his mouse click key to press the button.

He never got to a place in Window-Eyes where he could set up a placemarker, and he is only just getting started with Jaws. His PC is a
Win10 desktop. How can one move by pixels in Jaws? Thank you.

Carol

On 10/25/2017 6:56 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

Place markers only work on the web, don't they?

The Snowman's Hotspot Clicker script would be better for this.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: 19 October 2017 18:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol

I come late to this discussion but...
When your Brother finally gets this particular area found with the mouse can he then use the place marker functions of JAWS to get there all the time?
If I understood the functions of this ability it can be website specific and he can just use the placemarker list to go directly to that point.
I just thought it was worth a suggestion.
Anyone with more experience with the placemarkers should absolutely jump in here and correct my understanding.
Shannon