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Re: Help with Excel! Please!

Van Lant, Robin
 

Shirley,
You got the answer to your question, but I wonder if you inadvertently changed a formatting think you may not have wanted to. Typically people merge sells across multiple columns to create a header, just as a title bar that spans across the columns. Many of my sighted colleagues will have that set of cells shaded or colored and the text will be centered across all of those cells so it offers a nice look that frames the columns of information. . Just wanted to point this out in case you are returning this work to sighted friends and they say you've changed the overall look of the file.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Help with Excel! Please!

Hi everyone.

I am not knowledgeable in using excel. I taught myself how to work with spread sheets to keep my personal bank balance. Today, I have been asked to update our writers groups roster. It went smoothely until I reached row 22, column B. JAWS reads this as B22 through B24. When I tried to enter a different item in row 23, the same item shows up for row 22. I need to have different items--not the same. Obviously, you can't train me on excel with this list, but can someone just tell me how to change this one thing to fix it? I assume someone must have set it this way. How do I get out of it?

Thank you for any help. Or you can contact me off list. stracy5@tampabay.rr.com. Thank you.

Shirley






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Re: Jaws 2018 and Outlook 2016 Office 365

 

I run into this with Jaws 18 from time to time as well, sometimes closing the message and reopening it helps. You might want to send that to FS as feedback, I will also do this, but just haven’t yet, but as I said, even in Jaws 18 sometimes I get messages with tables or headings and the “t” and “h” keys just don’t do what they are supposed to. If I arrow to the table then table navigation works.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 6:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2018 and Outlook 2016 Office 365

 

When I am running the beta and receive an html message, the single key navigation doesn’t work. 

If I unload the beta and load the release of Jaws 18, they work fine.

Is there a setting I’m missing?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 


Re: Jaws on a Synology virtual machine

 

Hi Nickus,

Have you already bought a Synology NAS? If so, I'd love to know which one and your feedback, feel free to write to me privately at sieghard@live.ca. I am looking at them and want to buy one soon. You might want to read Jonathan Mosen's information at www.Mosen.org and, if you don't find the information you are looking for, contact him via his website since I know he has one and has written about the accessibility of the Synology Diskstation user interface.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 2:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws on a Synology virtual machine

Hi all
Does anyone maybe have experience with running jaws on a Windows virtual machine which is on a NAS device, something like a Synology NAS?

I know a Windows 10 virtual machine running Jaws work just fine directly installed on a computers internal storage, but I’m looking in to getting a NAS device and I want to move all my virtual machines on to the NAS. Just wondering about the licensing and of course also the audio output.

Any feedback appreciated.

Nickus


Re: Opening Attachments in Outlook 13

 

Hi Danney,

 

Jaws Key+A should work, I use Office 2016 currently with the Jaws 2018 Beta and that key combination works for me.

It’s been a few years since I used Office 2013, but I don’t recall it as being that different.

you can also press Shift+Tab, just make sure you are at the very beginning of the message and sometimes I do have to press it a couple of times to get to the list of attachments. Once you are there when it reads the first one and if you let it finish Jaws should say “1 of 1” or “1 of 3” or whatever the case may be and you can use left and right arrows to go from one attachment to the next if there is more than one.

Below is the text from speech history for an email I received which has one attachment, I first do a say line on that email in the Inbox, then open the email, let Jaws read the first few lines, then I press Jaws key+A. I indicate in quotation marks what I am pressing just before the text and I left in the vertical tabs which indicate the various bits of information::

 

Attachment
NitroSell Billing
Invoice #740646 - www.bvoutdoors.com
Mon 10:07 PM
49 KB
6 of 75

“I now press enter to open the email”:

Message
From: NitroSell Billing <accounts@...>
Subject Invoice #740646 - www.bvoutdoors.com
1 links.
Hello!

 

Attached please find Invoice #740646.

This invoice covers the usage charges for the Link www.bvoutdoors.com WebStore for the billing period 17th September up to 16th October 2017.

 

“I now press Jaws Key+A”, it will read the name of the attached PDF file:

NsInvoice740646.pdf11 KB1 of 1 attachmentsUse alt + down arrow to open the options menu Button
“As you can see it does say 1 of 1 attachments and it tells me to press Alt+Down Arrow for options. I now press Alt+Down Arrow and get the following menu choices”:

menu
Preview, P
Open, O
Quick Print, R
Save As, S
Save All Attachments..., N
Upload sub menu, U
Remove Attachment, V
Copy, C
Select All, L
“I press Escape”:

Leaving menus

Here are a bunch of ribbon menu options with their shortcuts (the shortcuts only work if you don't use the virtual ribbon menu in Jaws):

 

When in the Inbox on a message with attachments (before you open the message):

Save Attachments

Alt followed by F, M

 

When you are in a message:

Save All Attachments...

Alt followed by H, A, O, N

 

After you open a message and place focus on an attachment with either Jaws Key+A or Control+Shift, press Alt Key and you will hear this:

Upper Ribbon group box

Attachments Tab

Alt followed by Y, J A

"If you now press the down arrow you get into what's called the Lower Ribbon and into the group of Actions items which are the same as when you press Alt+Down Arrow or Shift+F10 when you are focussed on an attachment":

Lower Ribbon Attachments group box

Actions group box

Open Button, Alt followed by J A, O P

Quick Print Button, Alt followed by J A, Q

Remove Attachment Button, Alt followed by J A, R

Save to Computer group box

Save As Button, Alt followed by J A, A V

Save All Attachments... Button, Alt followed by J A, A A

Save to Cloud group box

Upload sub menu, Alt followed by J A, S C

Upload All Attachments Unavailable sub menu, Alt followed by J A, S A 1

Selection group box

Select All Button, Alt followed by J A, S A 2

Copy Button, Ctrl+C

Message group box

Show Message Button, Alt followed by J A, M

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Yates, Danney
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 7:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Opening Attachments in Outlook 13

 

Happy Tuesday, Using JAWS 18, Windows 7.  After opening a message, I shift tab to attachments and was thinking JAWS would tell me how many attachments I have, but it doesn’t.  Is this  controlled by a verbosity setting?  Also, thought JAWS key and letter A would tell me about  attachments, but it doesn’t, just tells me about links in the email.

Can you all tell me best way to manage attachments, i.e. opening and determining how many there are?

Thanks

 

 

Roosevelt Warm Springs

Danney Yates, M.Ed., CRC

Assistant Director

Campus Life

Office: (706) 655-5129  Fax: (706) 655-5118  Georgia Relay: 711

6135 Roosevelt Highway│P.O. Box 1000 │Warm Springs, GA 31830

www.gvs.ga.gov                                       

 

 

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Re: Ripping a CD

 

As a side note, that use of percentages for the bit rate is a side effect of JAWS because the control used to set the bit rate is a slider.  I do not know what the "under the hood" issues are with making a slider actually announce what gets displayed as you slide it, rather than always using percentages, but JAWS has been using the percentage convention for a very long time now for a lot of things that are not percentages.   In this particular case with bit rate:

0% is 128 Kb per second

33% is 192

66% is 256

and 100% is 320

As far as I'm concerned, if it were at all possible, JAWS or any screen reader should announce the value "being slid" not how far along the slider range you are unless that's actually what's pertinent.

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Re: Does anyone know of a Dictionary compatible with JAWS?

Yates, Danney
 

Thanks, I really like this and the ability to exit with a press of the escape key is awesome.
Danney

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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know of a Dictionary compatible with JAWS?

I use Wiktionary, the one from Research It: Insert+Space, R, [word], Home.
It can get wordy at times but you can get out of it with Escape.

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Opening Attachments in Outlook 13

Yates, Danney
 

Happy Tuesday, Using JAWS 18, Windows 7.  After opening a message, I shift tab to attachments and was thinking JAWS would tell me how many attachments I have, but it doesn’t.  Is this  controlled by a verbosity setting?  Also, thought JAWS key and letter A would tell me about  attachments, but it doesn’t, just tells me about links in the email.

Can you all tell me best way to manage attachments, i.e. opening and determining how many there are?

Thanks

 

 

Roosevelt Warm Springs

Danney Yates, M.Ed., CRC

Assistant Director

Campus Life

Office: (706) 655-5129  Fax: (706) 655-5118  Georgia Relay: 711

6135 Roosevelt Highway│P.O. Box 1000 │Warm Springs, GA 31830

www.gvs.ga.gov                                       

 

 

*Emails may now be sent to: Danney.Yates@...*

 


Jaws on a Synology virtual machine

Nickus de Vos
 

Hi all
Does anyone maybe have experience with running jaws on a Windows virtual machine which is on a NAS device, something like a Synology NAS?

I know a Windows 10 virtual machine running Jaws work just fine directly installed on a computers internal storage, but I’m looking in to getting a NAS device and I want to move all my virtual machines on to the NAS. Just wondering about the licensing and of course also the audio output.

Any feedback appreciated.

Nickus


Jaws 2018 and Outlook 2016 Office 365

Richard Turner
 

When I am running the beta and receive an html message, the single key navigation doesn’t work. 

If I unload the beta and load the release of Jaws 18, they work fine.

Is there a setting I’m missing?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 


Re: sending email problem

Jonas Voll
 

Two things I can think about to fix, 1 uninstall Chrome, 2 is firefox your default browser?



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 4:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: sending email problem

Probably a better question for somewhere like the BlindTech list, as for this particular issue, JAWS is taking kind of a back seat here.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: October-16-17 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: sending email problem

OK, i'm using gmail, using the web interface, using basic HTML.

On 10/16/17, george b <gbmagoo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hummmm well you need to tell us what email client your useing

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed
Barton
Sent: October 16, 2017 14:02
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: sending email problem

Hey guys,

OK i'm running the latest version of jfw. So when i go to a website,
i wanna send an email to their technical support. So there is a send
mail link. When i click on that to send my email using gmail's web
interface, my computer keeps launching google crome. I don't use that
browser, i always use firefox. is there any way to get it to laucnh
firefox to send the message?

Thanks,
Jed














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Re: Ripping a CD

Dave...
 


Yes, higher quality uses a bit more space, but I never bother and go for the best quality always. Drive space nowadays is pretty inconsequential.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 19:28
Subject: Re: Ripping a CD

Randy,

Okay, I've done that and changed to MP3 Thanks.

Now....please explain audio quality. You said "33% is 192kbs. 66% is 256Kbs. and 100% is 320kbs."  Is the average quality 50%?  Does the different levels use more space or memory or whatever you call it.  :(

I noticed my default was at 0%. That seemed odd to me but what do I know?!

I am a real novice here.

Thank you!!


-Elaine


On 10/16/2017 10:11 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:

Hi, glad you are figureing it out.
In the player press alt + t then O.
Now ctrl + tab to the rip tab.
Now tab to the format combo box and arrow down to mp3.
tab until you get to audio quality. This is a slider that justs gives percentage. 33% is 192kbs. 66% is 256Kbs. and 100% is 320kbs.
select one.
Now tab to OK and press enter.
You might want to convert the old .wma files as they are not very well supported.
This is done with a different program. It may be easier to just re-rip them after you change to mp3.
On 10/16/2017 4:44 PM, Elaine Young wrote:

Hi,

Well, Randy, I kind of have it figured out. I get glimpses of light, then get lost in the fog.


The first CD I ripped was a non-commercial one which is why it came up as unknown artist. Then I tried a second one and that one did exactly as you all said- listed the title, artist and minutes.  But..... I was unable to copy and paste it to a thumb drive.


Also I have to work a bit to understand what format it is- I am guessing it is not MP3. Thus I have to find my way to how to change that.....


-Elaine


On 10/16/2017 7:32 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
Hi, did you get this figured out?
Brian: Yeah, like you said though it automaticly pops up with the artist info so I think even a beginner would just press next to accept the first option.
the WMP part of my instructions was for the mp3 tags so media players would have the correct artist and song info. Just changing the file names wont do this. but it has been so long since I messed with a actual CD things may have changed.
God! I remember when I first put over 200 CD's on my PC When I figured out I could do that. Back then artists didnt always come up correctly. Sometimes it would have 3 different artists for a CD and I would have to find one of the kids to tell me witch one it was! LOL
On 10/16/2017 12:41 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:38 am, Randy Barnett wrote:
This is why I figured she had a non comercial burned disk or something.
Well, I presumed complete beginner.   If the situation you describe is the case then my approach is always just to rip it first then do the cleanup on the files ripped afterward.   It's been a very long time since I last had to do this, but if memory serves, audio CDs that WMP cannot find media information for will end up under the "Various Artists" folder and get some sort of generic title like "Album 1".  I find it a grand PITA to try to do the track name creation in WMP so after I get to the folder for Various Artists I just rename the folder for the album I just ripped to something that makes sense to me, then I open that folder and go track by track and rename the individual files.  I find file explorer much easier to use for that task.

Others will, however, prefer to do it in WMP.   It's been so long since I've done that for any reason I can't even begin to describe the process.  I'd have to get a mix CD that someone made for me and try it again.
 
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Re: Ripping a CD

Elaine Young <hidden_spring@...>
 

Randy,

Okay, I've done that and changed to MP3 Thanks.

Now....please explain audio quality. You said "33% is 192kbs. 66% is 256Kbs. and 100% is 320kbs."  Is the average quality 50%?  Does the different levels use more space or memory or whatever you call it.  :(

I noticed my default was at 0%. That seemed odd to me but what do I know?!

I am a real novice here.

Thank you!!


-Elaine


On 10/16/2017 10:11 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:

Hi, glad you are figureing it out.
In the player press alt + t then O.
Now ctrl + tab to the rip tab.
Now tab to the format combo box and arrow down to mp3.
tab until you get to audio quality. This is a slider that justs gives percentage. 33% is 192kbs. 66% is 256Kbs. and 100% is 320kbs.
select one.
Now tab to OK and press enter.
You might want to convert the old .wma files as they are not very well supported.
This is done with a different program. It may be easier to just re-rip them after you change to mp3.
On 10/16/2017 4:44 PM, Elaine Young wrote:

Hi,

Well, Randy, I kind of have it figured out. I get glimpses of light, then get lost in the fog.


The first CD I ripped was a non-commercial one which is why it came up as unknown artist. Then I tried a second one and that one did exactly as you all said- listed the title, artist and minutes.  But..... I was unable to copy and paste it to a thumb drive.


Also I have to work a bit to understand what format it is- I am guessing it is not MP3. Thus I have to find my way to how to change that.....


-Elaine


On 10/16/2017 7:32 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
Hi, did you get this figured out?
Brian: Yeah, like you said though it automaticly pops up with the artist info so I think even a beginner would just press next to accept the first option.
the WMP part of my instructions was for the mp3 tags so media players would have the correct artist and song info. Just changing the file names wont do this. but it has been so long since I messed with a actual CD things may have changed.
God! I remember when I first put over 200 CD's on my PC When I figured out I could do that. Back then artists didnt always come up correctly. Sometimes it would have 3 different artists for a CD and I would have to find one of the kids to tell me witch one it was! LOL
On 10/16/2017 12:41 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:38 am, Randy Barnett wrote:
This is why I figured she had a non comercial burned disk or something.
Well, I presumed complete beginner.   If the situation you describe is the case then my approach is always just to rip it first then do the cleanup on the files ripped afterward.   It's been a very long time since I last had to do this, but if memory serves, audio CDs that WMP cannot find media information for will end up under the "Various Artists" folder and get some sort of generic title like "Album 1".  I find it a grand PITA to try to do the track name creation in WMP so after I get to the folder for Various Artists I just rename the folder for the album I just ripped to something that makes sense to me, then I open that folder and go track by track and rename the individual files.  I find file explorer much easier to use for that task.

Others will, however, prefer to do it in WMP.   It's been so long since I've done that for any reason I can't even begin to describe the process.  I'd have to get a mix CD that someone made for me and try it again.
 
--
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Re: Ripping a CD

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Hi, glad you are figureing it out.
In the player press alt + t then O.
Now ctrl + tab to the rip tab.
Now tab to the format combo box and arrow down to mp3.
tab until you get to audio quality. This is a slider that justs gives percentage. 33% is 192kbs. 66% is 256Kbs. and 100% is 320kbs.
select one.
Now tab to OK and press enter.
You might want to convert the old .wma files as they are not very well supported.
This is done with a different program. It may be easier to just re-rip them after you change to mp3.

On 10/16/2017 4:44 PM, Elaine Young wrote:

Hi,

Well, Randy, I kind of have it figured out. I get glimpses of light, then get lost in the fog.


The first CD I ripped was a non-commercial one which is why it came up as unknown artist. Then I tried a second one and that one did exactly as you all said- listed the title, artist and minutes.  But..... I was unable to copy and paste it to a thumb drive.


Also I have to work a bit to understand what format it is- I am guessing it is not MP3. Thus I have to find my way to how to change that.....


-Elaine


On 10/16/2017 7:32 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
Hi, did you get this figured out?
Brian: Yeah, like you said though it automaticly pops up with the artist info so I think even a beginner would just press next to accept the first option.
the WMP part of my instructions was for the mp3 tags so media players would have the correct artist and song info. Just changing the file names wont do this. but it has been so long since I messed with a actual CD things may have changed.
God! I remember when I first put over 200 CD's on my PC When I figured out I could do that. Back then artists didnt always come up correctly. Sometimes it would have 3 different artists for a CD and I would have to find one of the kids to tell me witch one it was! LOL
On 10/16/2017 12:41 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:38 am, Randy Barnett wrote:
This is why I figured she had a non comercial burned disk or something.
Well, I presumed complete beginner.   If the situation you describe is the case then my approach is always just to rip it first then do the cleanup on the files ripped afterward.   It's been a very long time since I last had to do this, but if memory serves, audio CDs that WMP cannot find media information for will end up under the "Various Artists" folder and get some sort of generic title like "Album 1".  I find it a grand PITA to try to do the track name creation in WMP so after I get to the folder for Various Artists I just rename the folder for the album I just ripped to something that makes sense to me, then I open that folder and go track by track and rename the individual files.  I find file explorer much easier to use for that task.

Others will, however, prefer to do it in WMP.   It's been so long since I've done that for any reason I can't even begin to describe the process.  I'd have to get a mix CD that someone made for me and try it again.
 
--
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If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker

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Re: New Blind users group

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Oh I'm sorry about that. Here is a corrected link.

https://groups.io/g/BlindLife

On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:10 PM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

The link for the group goes to a page that says the group does not exist.

On 10/16/2017 2:31 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
The blind life home page is the following.
https://groups.io/g/BlindLifeOn Oct 11, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Donna <mermaid7@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Can someone provide the link to the blind life group?

Donna

I'm still on the fence--while acknowledging possibly duplicate topics, etc.., I realize that some posters won't be in BlindLife, and it might be interesting to hear other points of view--I probably will subscribe; I'll give it a day for a decision, probably sign up tonight sometime.





Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)
-----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Blind users group

I did, but am wondering if it will be superfluous with Blind Life.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Blind users group

Hey there, sounds great!
I just subscribed to the group.

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Blind users group


Hi!

The address to subscribe is:

Blind-users+subscribe@groups.io

You will get a confermation message, reply to that message, and you will get a welcome message.

After you subscribe, to send a message:

Blind-users@groups.io

The +subscribe was left off of the link that was in the message to subscribe.

I am subscribed, and there are three members LOL!

Have a great one!

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10



From: dennis
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 9:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Blind users group



i can't seam to subscribe to this group.



On 10/10/2017 8:08 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:

Hi, I started a group that is for discussion anything blind related. Life issues, Computer issues, Tech in general. Basically if it has to do with blindness in any way it is allowed.


blind-users@groups.io


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Re: Ripping a CD

Elaine Young <hidden_spring@...>
 

Hi,

Well, Randy, I kind of have it figured out. I get glimpses of light, then get lost in the fog.


The first CD I ripped was a non-commercial one which is why it came up as unknown artist. Then I tried a second one and that one did exactly as you all said- listed the title, artist and minutes.  But..... I was unable to copy and paste it to a thumb drive.


Also I have to work a bit to understand what format it is- I am guessing it is not MP3. Thus I have to find my way to how to change that.....


-Elaine


On 10/16/2017 7:32 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
Hi, did you get this figured out?
Brian: Yeah, like you said though it automaticly pops up with the artist info so I think even a beginner would just press next to accept the first option.
the WMP part of my instructions was for the mp3 tags so media players would have the correct artist and song info. Just changing the file names wont do this. but it has been so long since I messed with a actual CD things may have changed.
God! I remember when I first put over 200 CD's on my PC When I figured out I could do that. Back then artists didnt always come up correctly. Sometimes it would have 3 different artists for a CD and I would have to find one of the kids to tell me witch one it was! LOL
On 10/16/2017 12:41 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:38 am, Randy Barnett wrote:
This is why I figured she had a non comercial burned disk or something.
Well, I presumed complete beginner.   If the situation you describe is the case then my approach is always just to rip it first then do the cleanup on the files ripped afterward.   It's been a very long time since I last had to do this, but if memory serves, audio CDs that WMP cannot find media information for will end up under the "Various Artists" folder and get some sort of generic title like "Album 1".  I find it a grand PITA to try to do the track name creation in WMP so after I get to the folder for Various Artists I just rename the folder for the album I just ripped to something that makes sense to me, then I open that folder and go track by track and rename the individual files.  I find file explorer much easier to use for that task.

Others will, however, prefer to do it in WMP.   It's been so long since I've done that for any reason I can't even begin to describe the process.  I'd have to get a mix CD that someone made for me and try it again.
 
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If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker

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Re: outlook meeting request,

Jason White
 

From memory, it's Alt+h, n, followed by "s" (to send" or "e" to edit, to decline a meeting invitation.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kane Brolin
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook meeting request,

Hi, David. I use Outlook 2013, which is pretty similar to Outlook 2010.

First, hit the Alt key; that takes you to the ribbons. Then type h, which takes you to the Home tab. Then type c, if your intention is to confirm acceptance of the appointment. After that, your client has two options: To send the meeting acceptance without editing (by typing the letter s), or to add a comment to the confirmation (by typing e and then filling the edit box that pops up immediately thereafter.)

If your client wishes to decline a meeting invitation, following the Alt followed by h, he or she can do this simply by tabbing to the appropriate item in the Outlook menus and then hitting Enter once the Decline button is reached. I'm not exactly sure how to specify a decline upfront simply through a sequence of typed keys. But the fields applying to confirming or declining an appointment are well labeled for screen access in Outlook. So he or she shouldn't have a problem after having navigated to the proper tab.

-Kane


Re: outlook meeting request,

david
 

Hello Kane;
Thanks for your response,

I went on Google and found the following,
You may find this helpful.


here's some comprehensive instructions on outlook meeting requests,
according to my research, it says, outlook2016, however, I suspect it would work with the earlier versions. give it a try, and let me know.

Quickly read meeting requests and respond to them in Outlook 2016 by using keyboard shortcuts and a screen reader.

Note: This topic assumes that JAWS users have turned off the Virtual Ribbon Menu feature.
to make sure the virtual ribbon feature is turned off in jaws,

1, open outlook,

2, press insert+v=quick settings,

3, type the word virtual
jaws will say found 2 results,
so down arrow until you hear jaws say,
virtual ribbon, if it is checked,
press the spacebar to uncheck.
if it isn't checked, press escape to get out.
if the box was checked and you did press the spacebar to uncheck, again, press the escape key twice, to get out, or, you can simply press the enter key twice.

Accept a meeting request from the message list

1. In the Message List box, place the focus on the meeting request.

2. To read the meeting request, press F6. The focus moves to the Reading pane, and you hear the message being read. To move through the message, use the
arrow keys.

3. To move back to the meeting request in the Message List box, press Shift+F6.

4. Press numeric keypad star (or Shift+F10). The group menu opens, and you hear “Right-click menu, Group menu.” To accept or decline, use
these shortcut keys:


• To accept, press C, C, and then Enter.

• To decline, press E, Enter.

• To accept tentatively, press N, Enter.

5. The Microsoft Outlook dialog box opens with the focus on the OK button and, depending on your selection, you hear “This meeting has been accepted,”
“This meeting has been declined,” or “This meeting has been tentatively accepted.”

6. To edit your response before sending, send your response now (the default selection), or choose not to send a response, use these shortcut keys:


• To edit the response before sending, press E.

• To send the response now, press S.

• To choose not to send a response, press D.

7. Tab to the OK button, and press Enter.


Open and accept a meeting request

1. In the Message List box, place the focus on the meeting request.

2. To read the meeting request, press F6. The focus moves to the Reading pane, and you hear the message being read. To move through the message, use the
arrow keys.

3. With the meeting request opened, press Alt+H. The Meeting tab opens, and you hear “Upper ribbon, Meeting tab.” (In Narrator, you hear “Meeting window.”)


4. To accept or decline, use the shortcut keys:


• To accept, press C.

• To decline, press N.

• To accept tentatively, press J.

5. When you hear “Menu, Edit the response before sending,” to select your response, use the shortcut keys:


• To edit the response before sending, press E.

• To send the response without editing, press S.

• To choose not to send a response, press D.

Note: You can also propose a new time for the meeting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kane Brolin
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook meeting request,

Hi, David. I use Outlook 2013, which is pretty similar to Outlook 2010.

First, hit the Alt key; that takes you to the ribbons. Then type h,
which takes you to the Home tab. Then type c, if your intention is to
confirm acceptance of the appointment. After that, your client has
two options: To send the meeting acceptance without editing (by typing
the letter s), or to add a comment to the confirmation (by typing e
and then filling the edit box that pops up immediately thereafter.)

If your client wishes to decline a meeting invitation, following the
Alt followed by h, he or she can do this simply by tabbing to the
appropriate item in the Outlook menus and then hitting Enter once the
Decline button is reached. I'm not exactly sure how to specify a
decline upfront simply through a sequence of typed keys. But the
fields applying to confirming or declining an appointment are well
labeled for screen access in Outlook. So he or she shouldn't have a
problem after having navigated to the proper tab.

-Kane


Re: still clicking

 

I’m sure experiencing even a Category 2 or 3 hurricane is a terrible experience, but there is no worse than a Cat 5 storm. When Irma was at its strongest over the ocean and before it made landfall in the carabians winds up to I think 302 Km/H were recorded.

By the time it hit Florida it had slowed to a Cat 4 and while the keys were hit hard, we all know that the damage around Tampa/St. Petersburg was a lot less than many feared.

 

Irma almost pales in comparison to Super Typhoon Haiyan which was also known as Yolanda in the Philippines. Property damage was less because people where this typhoon hit are poor and live in shacks, but the storm killed over 6,500 people and effected over 11 Million many of which didn’t even have the little they had before. That storm had 1-minute sustained speeds of 315 Km/H (195 MPH) and 10-minute sustained winds were measured at 230 Km/H.

 

Here is part of an article from the CBC science section:

Irma is currently listed as a Category 5 hurricane, but some articles circulating on the internet claim it could become the first to reach Category 6.

But those articles are fake.

How do we know? Because the Saffir-Simpson hurricane wind scale, which categorizes hurricanes' destructiveness based on their wind speeds, ranges from

1 to 5.

When a Category 5 storm hits, you can expect "catastrophic damage," according to a National Hurricane Center backgrounder. "Most of the area will be uninhabitable

for weeks or months," it says, as the winds will destroy many homes, collapsing roofs, walls, trees and power lines, causing power outages that last for

weeks or months.

But why is there no Category 6?

"Because once you say catastrophic and there's near complete damage, why do you need a 6?" says Dennis Feltgen, a spokesperson for the National Hurricane

Center.

Of course, it's not wind speed alone that makes hurricanes destructive. Hurricane Harvey was just a Category 4 when it hit the coast of Texas on Aug. 25,

but killed at least 60 people and left 560,000 families seeking housing assistance. Massive flooding from storm surges and more than a metre of rain

caused much of the destruction.

"We basically have a scale for storm surge … how many feet above ground level there would be inundation." says Feltgen.

But the different factors that make storms destructive are too variable to measure on a scale of wind speed, he said.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: still clicking

 

Hello fellow listerrs,

 

Hello fellow listerrs,

 

After surviving one of the strongest hurricane in history, tornado laden, earthquake called Irma. yes, Irma was worse than a category 5 hurricane at times her speed was unmeasurable. This storm actually registered on the Richter scale leaving massive and tragic destruction to solid concrete homes and people. I was blessed in that my home was not destroyed just some cosmetic damage occurred. I’m now living in Georgia because of medical reasons not being able to get medication on a timely basis. My family and I got out right before hurricane Maria of which completely flooded the island making matters even worse. Then to add even more insult to injury, rainy season has just started and the rain is coming down in buckets and with no trees mudslides are causing havoc.

I’ll say sometimes being blind is a good thing.

 

 


Re: Ripping a CD

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Hi, did you get this figured out?
Brian: Yeah, like you said though it automaticly pops up with the artist info so I think even a beginner would just press next to accept the first option.
the WMP part of my instructions was for the mp3 tags so media players would have the correct artist and song info. Just changing the file names wont do this. but it has been so long since I messed with a actual CD things may have changed.
God! I remember when I first put over 200 CD's on my PC When I figured out I could do that. Back then artists didnt always come up correctly. Sometimes it would have 3 different artists for a CD and I would have to find one of the kids to tell me witch one it was! LOL
On 10/16/2017 12:41 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:38 am, Randy Barnett wrote:
This is why I figured she had a non comercial burned disk or something.
Well, I presumed complete beginner.   If the situation you describe is the case then my approach is always just to rip it first then do the cleanup on the files ripped afterward.   It's been a very long time since I last had to do this, but if memory serves, audio CDs that WMP cannot find media information for will end up under the "Various Artists" folder and get some sort of generic title like "Album 1".  I find it a grand PITA to try to do the track name creation in WMP so after I get to the folder for Various Artists I just rename the folder for the album I just ripped to something that makes sense to me, then I open that folder and go track by track and rename the individual files.  I find file explorer much easier to use for that task.

Others will, however, prefer to do it in WMP.   It's been so long since I've done that for any reason I can't even begin to describe the process.  I'd have to get a mix CD that someone made for me and try it again.
 
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

 
If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker

~


Re: Omnipage Ultimate, Windows 10 & JAWS

Dale Heltzer
 

Yes, as a stand-alone.
It was my understanding that the Word plugin went away with V16...
(At any rate, all this is moot, since I downloaded Ultimate, and it behaves as its predecessor did...)
Be well

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Martz
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Omnipage Ultimate, Windows 10 & JAWS

I also did not care for the level of accessibility of OmniPage 18 as a standalone application. However, I found that the Word plugin was very accessible, and this is how I primarily use OmniPage. Go to the Nuance tab on the ribbon UI and select Acquire Text. Works great for OCR.

Are you trying to use OmniPage as a standalone app?
-Paul

On Oct 16, 2017, at 9:53 AM, Dale Heltzer <deheltzer@msn.com> wrote:

Suddenly my Omnipage 17 no longer works with Windows 10. Previously, I tried Omnipage 18, which did not play well with JAWS. Is anyone using Omn. Ultimate (V19)?
Thanks
-D

Dale E. Heltzer
deheltzer@msn.com

Why in the world are we here?
Surely not to live in pain and fear
- John Lennon, “Instant Karma!”


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul
Martz
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws With A MacBook

Well, we’re getting pretty far off topic here. But I don’t see why you’d need multiple copies of Office. If you’ve already got it running on your Windows system, then just use it on your Windows system.

There are some tasks that non-Windows systems are better suited for. Setting up a web server, for example, is tons easier on a Mac or Linux machine than on a Windows system, in my experience. I find that the benefit of using the right computer for a project far outweighs the cost of learning different operating systems.

Your mileage may vary.
-Paul

On Oct 15, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@soundtique.net> wrote:

Why would you want to spend the money and time learning and running
two totally different OS's?Nothing between the two are compatible.
You would have to buy two versions of your software. Windows for instance would be a 100.00 purchase then Office for each OS and so on. Just doesnt make sense to me. :) Not saying that that matters People are free to do as they please! :) Just wondering. ;) On 10/15/2017 6:04 PM, Paul Martz wrote:
maybe I’m stating the obvious, but the reason to buy a Mac is so that you can run both Mac OS X and a second (or third) operating system via Bootcamp or parallels. I don’t think anyone is suggesting that you buy a Mac, wipe it, and run Windows as the sole OS.
-Paul

On Oct 14, 2017, at 1:00 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@soundtique.net> wrote:

What is the reason for buying a Mac? If you just want too run windows on it you will spend way more money going this route and wont see any better performance.
On 10/14/2017 10:20 AM, Owais Patel wrote:
Hi there everyone. Thanks for answering my question. If I get a Mac and install Jaws on the Windows side how can I make my keyboard work like a Pc? Or would you recommend to get a Microsoft Keyboard? What would you say about the Touch screen Support in Jaws with regards to the Mac? Is it sensitive enough and if I get the Mac with a Touch Bar what is the recommendation in this situation for installing Jaws?

--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett
Owner of Soundtique.
Grants Pass, Or.