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Re: Trouble with Jaws and Remote Desktop

Laura Wolk
 

Never mind. I figured out it's a licensing issue.

On 10/9/17, Laura Wolk <laura.wolk@...> wrote:
I have windows 7 on both my work machine and my personal laptop, and I
am running Jaws 18 on my Laptop that I'm using to remote in. I am
having two problems. First, if the host computer is not already logged
in, I get an error message on my home laptop that Jaws is not
authorized to run in terminal services, and it shuts down. Second, if
I leave my work computer logged in, I can access jaws, but I cannot
access my network drive, and Jaws will not read any emails I am
composing in lotus notes. So, remote access is more or less useless to
me at the moment. Any solutions welcome.


Trouble with Jaws and Remote Desktop

Laura Wolk
 

I have windows 7 on both my work machine and my personal laptop, and I
am running Jaws 18 on my Laptop that I'm using to remote in. I am
having two problems. First, if the host computer is not already logged
in, I get an error message on my home laptop that Jaws is not
authorized to run in terminal services, and it shuts down. Second, if
I leave my work computer logged in, I can access jaws, but I cannot
access my network drive, and Jaws will not read any emails I am
composing in lotus notes. So, remote access is more or less useless to
me at the moment. Any solutions welcome.


Re: MOVING TO NEXT MESSAGE IN Outlook?

Van Lant, Robin
 

That shortcut works beautifully and is so intuitive.  Thank you, Brian.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 1:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MOVING TO NEXT MESSAGE IN Outlook?

 

Robin,

          Yes.  If you're in the reading window,

           CTRL+>     Go to Next Message
           CTRL+<     Go to Previous Message

You don't need to hit shift for the greater than and less than signs, so effectively Control plus period goes to the next message and control plus comma goes to the previous message (at least on most keyboards - if the greater than and less than signs, respectively are not above period and comma then use the keys that they are on and produced if you hit SHIFT).
--
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Re: RE Scanner

Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
 

Nancy,

Thanks very much scanner's up and running again.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nancy B.
Gibson
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2017 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: RE Scanner


Hi Marilyn,

I don't know the specific shortcut keys but I can get you there with arrow
and tab.

1. With Open Book started, press ALT to get the File menu.
2. Right arrow over to Launch.
3. Down arrow 3 times to Set up standard launchables.
4. Right arrow once to Advanced.
5. Down arrow 2 times to Device settings and press Enter.
You should hear that the acquisition source is scanner. 6. Tab to the combo
box for Device and arrow down to whichever you want.
7. Tab to Okay and press enter.

Nancy



----- Original Message -----
From: Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 7, 2017 9:55 pm
Subject: RE Scanner




-Hello everyone,

I'm in a fix.

I have two scanners connected to my desktop. I only just discovered this.
One is a regular scanner with OpenBook, and the other was a printer
and which I have just learned, also a scanner.

The problem is that when I launched Openbook I got the prompt Welcome
to Openbook, but thenI could not get it to scan because the message
said "no scanner. I pressed a number of keys and tabbed a few times
and then somehow there was a list of things to choose from. I entered
on what I thought was the correct scanner, and of course it was the
wrong one. That's when I found out about the printer/scanner. It kept
scanning, but of course, there's no voice.

How can I get to the place to where I can select one of the other
options to get my Openbook scanner to launch?

So sorry if this sounds confusing. Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas "





Re: RE Scanner

Nancy B. Gibson
 

Hi Marilyn,

I don't know the specific shortcut keys but I can get you there with arrow and tab.

1. With Open Book started, press ALT to get the File menu.
2. Right arrow over to Launch.
3. Down arrow 3 times to Set up standard launchables.
4. Right arrow once to Advanced.
5. Down arrow 2 times to Device settings and press Enter.
You should hear that the acquisition source is scanner. 6. Tab to the combo box for Device and arrow down to whichever you want.
7. Tab to Okay and press enter.

Nancy

----- Original Message -----
From: Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 7, 2017 9:55 pm
Subject: RE Scanner




-Hello everyone,

I'm in a fix.

I have two scanners connected to my desktop. I only just discovered this.
One is a regular scanner with OpenBook, and the other was a printer and
which I have just learned, also a scanner.

The problem is that when I launched Openbook I got the prompt Welcome to
Openbook, but thenI could not get it to scan because the message said "no
scanner. I pressed a number of keys and tabbed a few times and then somehow
there was a list of things to choose from. I entered on what I thought was
the correct scanner, and of course it was the wrong one. That's when I found
out about the printer/scanner. It kept scanning, but of course, there's no
voice.

How can I get to the place to where I can select one of the other options to
get my Openbook scanner to launch?

So sorry if this sounds confusing. Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas "





Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

David Moore
 

Add Edge as well.

It is working great with JAWS beta 2!

Chrome, IE 11, and Firefox all have their purposes as well.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 2:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

 

It really pays to learn as much as possible about navigating browsers (IE, Firefox and Chrome should all be the same). FS has the Surfs Up website which can be used to learn this.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

 

Hi, Richard. One thing you could do is to find the first link with Tab. Then use Next Same Element, S to skip all other info to get to the next link (same element).

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

 

Thanks Mike for this list of What’s new features.

 

As a former Window-eyes user, the thing I miss most is being able to jump from link to link whether visited or not.  This item for Edge may make me start using Edge a lot:

• You can now use the U and SHIFT+U Navigation Quick Keys in Edge to move by links. Note that in Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome, these commands
only move to the next or previous unvisited link. However, since Edge currently does not indicate when a link has been visited, U and SHIFT+U will move
to all links in this browser.

 

I know tabbing will stop at links, but it stops at other stuff too.

 

I hope Freedom incorporates a short cut key in all browsers to ignore whether a link is visited or not and just skip anything that isn’t a link.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 12:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

 

Howdy All,

 

Here are the download links & what's new for this Beta 2 2018.1710.1 update.

 

32 Bit:

 

 

64 Bit:

 

 


The following is a list of improvements made between the first Public Beta and Public Beta 2. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are included
in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.

 

JAWS
list of 11 items
• If you are running a previous version of JAWS while installing 2018, JAWS now speaks the progress bar which displays the percentage of the install that
is complete. The self-voicing feature of the installer also now announces more progress information.
• Improved various installer messages including the messages confirming a successful install or uninstall.
• When using the default voice contexts for the various cursors and you press NUM PAD+MINUS to turn on the JAWS Cursor, resolved a customer reported issue
where "JAWS Cursor" was not being announced using the correct voice, which uses a lower pitch.
• Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS. These enable French users to search BNFA or ÉOLE, two major French libraries for
the blind.
• When using JAWS Settings Center in Windows 10, resolved an issue where JAWS was not announcing the current location in the tree view after expanding
a group, or the path to the currently selected item when pressing INSERT+UP ARROW. In addition, when navigating the filter tree view of results after performing
a search, JAWS now announces the item followed by its location.
• The What's New in JAWS DAISY book has been updated for JAWS 2018. To get the new book, select Training from the JAWS Help menu to open the JAWS Basic
Training Table of Contents in FSReader, and then press ENTER on the What's New in JAWS link.
• In response to a customer request, JAWS now includes version 3.3 of the Liblouis braille translator.
• Updated the control names in Settings Center for the Virtual Cursor verbosity options to say, "Web Verbosity Levels" and "Configure Web Verbosity Levels",
to make them easier to find when doing a search.
• If the JAWS Laptop keyboard layout is active, resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+SHIFT+1 through 0 was not working in Excel to define a monitor
cell. In addition, INSERT+SHIFT+T now works in Winamp to display track information. In Laptop layout, both The CAPS LOCK and INSERT keys can be used as
the JAWS Key.
• Addressed issues with editing text files on remote systems using SSH.
• A customer using the Spanish version of JAWS reported several issues with various help and application messages. These have been resolved.
list end

 

Convenient OCR
list of 4 items
• In response to customer feedback, improved the quality of the OCR results when using INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, F to recognize an image file or INSERT+SPACEBAR,
O, D to recognize a PDF document in Adobe Reader.
• Addressed reports where JAWS 2018 would not install on certain 64-bit computers. In these cases, the installation process was not able to install the
Convenient OCR components. This is now fixed.
• In response to customer feedback, the camera light frequency correction is now saved when changed through the Advanced dialog box located in the Camera
and Scanner Recognition dialog box.
• JAWS now plays a progress sound when recognizing large PDF documents.
list end

 

Google Docs
list of 2 items
• You can now press CTRL+APOSTROPHE or CTRL+SEMICOLON in Google Docs to move to the next or previous misspelled word in a document.
• When navigating a Google Docs table in Chrome using JAWS table reading commands (ALT+CTRL+ARROW keys, addressed an issue where JAWS was double speaking
cell contents.
list end

 

Microsoft Office
list of 3 items
• Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365 updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses when
typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365 version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.
• When navigating time slots in the Outlook Calendar using Vocalizer Expressive for speech, addressed a reported issue where JAWS was saying "comma" before
the time.
• When opening the Spell Checker for the first time after starting Word 365, resolved an issue where JAWS was not automatically reading the misspelled
word and suggestion.
list end

 

Skype
list of 1 items
• Resolved an issue where both JAWS and Skype would stop working if the Call Quality Feedback dialog box was displayed after ending a call.
list end

 

Web Browsers
list of 10 items
• JAWS 2018 contains changes necessary to support Firefox version 57, scheduled for release in the fourth quarter of 2017.
• Improved overall JAWS performance with Edge. In particular, multiple reports where Edge would unexpectedly stop working on various web pages or become
less responsive after opening multiple pages were addressed.
• When INSERT+A is pressed to read the web page address in Firefox or Chrome, addressed a customer reported issue where this information was not being
displayed in braille if flash message verbosity was set to Advanced.
• Addressed an issue with JAWS double speaking live region updates in Google Chrome.
• Resolved an issue where Internet Explorer would sometimes close unexpectedly when right clicking on various toolbar items using the mouse.
• Resolved a reported issue with JAWS not reading as expected when encountering form controls inside an ARIA grid.
• You can now use the U and SHIFT+U Navigation Quick Keys in Edge to move by links. Note that in Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome, these commands
only move to the next or previous unvisited link. However, since Edge currently does not indicate when a link has been visited, U and SHIFT+U will move
to all links in this browser.
• If the mouse is used to select text on a web page, resolved an issue where pressing CTRL+C was not working as expected to copy the selected text.
• Addressed intermittent issues where domain specific settings were not always loading as expected.
• Resolved an issue with Chrome where braille was not working as expected when typing and navigating in certain edit fields.
list end

 

Windows Mail
list of 2 items
• When opening an email message, resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS was reading the contents of the previous message, even if it had been closed
or deleted.
• When using JAWS table reading commands to navigate a table inserted into a new message, resolved an issue with JAWS not reading as expected.
list end

 

Windows 10
list of 1 items
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the selected item when navigating between time picker controls.
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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wondering about firefox 57

netbat66
 

people have been updated even though they set firefox to not update. is there an option to also include betas for upgrades? maybe this is why this is happening. i didn't find anything in the settings.
i say this because even on the mmazila page the only download they have is version 56 even after i installed it i checked for updates and firefox said i had the most current version.
but it did not give me the option to do a mobile installation. is there another mobile site to download from?
i use to have the 2 choices when installing firefox directly.


Re: i'm trying to find a direct link to the extended support version of firefox that works with jaws version 16!

netbat66
 

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/
this page has all the languages incase you want other then u s english.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Ingram
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 11:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: i'm trying to find a direct link to the extended support version of firefox that works with jaws version 16!

Hi list members, i'm trying to find a direct link to the extended support version of firefox that works with jaws version 16. I've gone to the suggested place but i'm having a hard time trying to find the extended support version of firefox which is 52.3 is there a direct link to that version? I can't seem to be able to find it! Also P.S. will webvisum work with that version of firefox as well? Thank you for any information that you might have concerning my questions!


Re: i'm trying to find a direct link to the extended support version of firefox that works with jaws version 16!

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

A Google search got me there pretty quickly, below are direct download links for the extended support version for version 52.3 and 52.4, not sure if the .3 to .4 update would make a difference with respect to how well it works with Jaws 16:

Firefox 52.3 ESR:
https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/52.3.0esr/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%2052.3.0esr.exe

Firefox 52.4 ESR:
https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/52.4.0esr/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%2052.4.0esr.exe

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 11:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: i'm trying to find a direct link to the extended support version of firefox that works with jaws version 16!

Hi list members, i'm trying to find a direct link to the extended support version of firefox that works with jaws version 16. I've gone to the suggested place but i'm having a hard time trying to find the extended support version of firefox which is 52.3 is there a direct link to that version? I can't seem to be able to find it! Also P.S. will webvisum work with that version of firefox as well? Thank you for any information that you might have concerning my questions!


Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

It really pays to learn as much as possible about navigating browsers (IE, Firefox and Chrome should all be the same). FS has the Surfs Up website which can be used to learn this.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

 

Hi, Richard. One thing you could do is to find the first link with Tab. Then use Next Same Element, S to skip all other info to get to the next link (same element).

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

 

Thanks Mike for this list of What’s new features.

 

As a former Window-eyes user, the thing I miss most is being able to jump from link to link whether visited or not.  This item for Edge may make me start using Edge a lot:

• You can now use the U and SHIFT+U Navigation Quick Keys in Edge to move by links. Note that in Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome, these commands
only move to the next or previous unvisited link. However, since Edge currently does not indicate when a link has been visited, U and SHIFT+U will move
to all links in this browser.

 

I know tabbing will stop at links, but it stops at other stuff too.

 

I hope Freedom incorporates a short cut key in all browsers to ignore whether a link is visited or not and just skip anything that isn’t a link.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 12:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

 

Howdy All,

 

Here are the download links & what's new for this Beta 2 2018.1710.1 update.

 

32 Bit:

 

 

64 Bit:

 

 


The following is a list of improvements made between the first Public Beta and Public Beta 2. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are included
in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.

 

JAWS
list of 11 items
• If you are running a previous version of JAWS while installing 2018, JAWS now speaks the progress bar which displays the percentage of the install that
is complete. The self-voicing feature of the installer also now announces more progress information.
• Improved various installer messages including the messages confirming a successful install or uninstall.
• When using the default voice contexts for the various cursors and you press NUM PAD+MINUS to turn on the JAWS Cursor, resolved a customer reported issue
where "JAWS Cursor" was not being announced using the correct voice, which uses a lower pitch.
• Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS. These enable French users to search BNFA or ÉOLE, two major French libraries for
the blind.
• When using JAWS Settings Center in Windows 10, resolved an issue where JAWS was not announcing the current location in the tree view after expanding
a group, or the path to the currently selected item when pressing INSERT+UP ARROW. In addition, when navigating the filter tree view of results after performing
a search, JAWS now announces the item followed by its location.
• The What's New in JAWS DAISY book has been updated for JAWS 2018. To get the new book, select Training from the JAWS Help menu to open the JAWS Basic
Training Table of Contents in FSReader, and then press ENTER on the What's New in JAWS link.
• In response to a customer request, JAWS now includes version 3.3 of the Liblouis braille translator.
• Updated the control names in Settings Center for the Virtual Cursor verbosity options to say, "Web Verbosity Levels" and "Configure Web Verbosity Levels",
to make them easier to find when doing a search.
• If the JAWS Laptop keyboard layout is active, resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+SHIFT+1 through 0 was not working in Excel to define a monitor
cell. In addition, INSERT+SHIFT+T now works in Winamp to display track information. In Laptop layout, both The CAPS LOCK and INSERT keys can be used as
the JAWS Key.
• Addressed issues with editing text files on remote systems using SSH.
• A customer using the Spanish version of JAWS reported several issues with various help and application messages. These have been resolved.
list end

 

Convenient OCR
list of 4 items
• In response to customer feedback, improved the quality of the OCR results when using INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, F to recognize an image file or INSERT+SPACEBAR,
O, D to recognize a PDF document in Adobe Reader.
• Addressed reports where JAWS 2018 would not install on certain 64-bit computers. In these cases, the installation process was not able to install the
Convenient OCR components. This is now fixed.
• In response to customer feedback, the camera light frequency correction is now saved when changed through the Advanced dialog box located in the Camera
and Scanner Recognition dialog box.
• JAWS now plays a progress sound when recognizing large PDF documents.
list end

 

Google Docs
list of 2 items
• You can now press CTRL+APOSTROPHE or CTRL+SEMICOLON in Google Docs to move to the next or previous misspelled word in a document.
• When navigating a Google Docs table in Chrome using JAWS table reading commands (ALT+CTRL+ARROW keys, addressed an issue where JAWS was double speaking
cell contents.
list end

 

Microsoft Office
list of 3 items
• Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365 updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses when
typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365 version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.
• When navigating time slots in the Outlook Calendar using Vocalizer Expressive for speech, addressed a reported issue where JAWS was saying "comma" before
the time.
• When opening the Spell Checker for the first time after starting Word 365, resolved an issue where JAWS was not automatically reading the misspelled
word and suggestion.
list end

 

Skype
list of 1 items
• Resolved an issue where both JAWS and Skype would stop working if the Call Quality Feedback dialog box was displayed after ending a call.
list end

 

Web Browsers
list of 10 items
• JAWS 2018 contains changes necessary to support Firefox version 57, scheduled for release in the fourth quarter of 2017.
• Improved overall JAWS performance with Edge. In particular, multiple reports where Edge would unexpectedly stop working on various web pages or become
less responsive after opening multiple pages were addressed.
• When INSERT+A is pressed to read the web page address in Firefox or Chrome, addressed a customer reported issue where this information was not being
displayed in braille if flash message verbosity was set to Advanced.
• Addressed an issue with JAWS double speaking live region updates in Google Chrome.
• Resolved an issue where Internet Explorer would sometimes close unexpectedly when right clicking on various toolbar items using the mouse.
• Resolved a reported issue with JAWS not reading as expected when encountering form controls inside an ARIA grid.
• You can now use the U and SHIFT+U Navigation Quick Keys in Edge to move by links. Note that in Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome, these commands
only move to the next or previous unvisited link. However, since Edge currently does not indicate when a link has been visited, U and SHIFT+U will move
to all links in this browser.
• If the mouse is used to select text on a web page, resolved an issue where pressing CTRL+C was not working as expected to copy the selected text.
• Addressed intermittent issues where domain specific settings were not always loading as expected.
• Resolved an issue with Chrome where braille was not working as expected when typing and navigating in certain edit fields.
list end

 

Windows Mail
list of 2 items
• When opening an email message, resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS was reading the contents of the previous message, even if it had been closed
or deleted.
• When using JAWS table reading commands to navigate a table inserted into a new message, resolved an issue with JAWS not reading as expected.
list end

 

Windows 10
list of 1 items
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the selected item when navigating between time picker controls.
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


i'm trying to find a direct link to the extended support version of firefox that works with jaws version 16!

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, i'm trying to find a direct link to the extended support version of firefox that works with jaws version 16. I've gone to the suggested place but i'm having a hard time trying to find the extended support version of firefox which is 52.3 is there a direct link to that version? I can't seem to be able to find it! Also P.S. will webvisum work with that version of firefox as well? Thank you for any information that you might have concerning my questions!


Re: latest Firefox and latest Jaws

netbat66
 

i don't know if this makes a difference. but 55 and up now uses 2 c p u cores instead of 1
also in about 3 months none of your add ons will work anymore unless the authors update them to the new standard that was emplimented with firefox 55.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 9:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Firefox and latest Jaws



Using: W10 Home 64 bit with all updates.



Well, I posted the below message earlier today but the situation has been taken out of my hands.



F F updated itself, although it was not supposed to, to the latest version and from a brief exploration, it seems to work ok with both Jaws 18.0.4321 and NVDA.



The latest version of Windoweyes is a complete flop though.





Tom









From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2017 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Firefox and latest Jaws







Thanks to those who replied to my question regarding F F 57 andJaws.



As Jaws 2018 will be released before the end of the month, I’ll wait until then before doing anything about updateing FF to the latest version.



Tom









From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, 7 October 2017 11:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Firefox and latest Jaws





The latest JAWS 2018 public beta release includes enhancements needed to support the new version of firefox.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 7:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Firefox and latest Jaws











Some users on another list have suddenly started experiencing serious problems with Firefox and JAWS, but it is not clear what the cause is. They have reported that web browsing has suddenly slowed down significantly, and some web pages will not load at all. And they cannot even close Firefox once it has been opened, forcing them to perform a hard shutdown and reboot in order to restore things to normal. It is possible That these users were automatically updated to FF 57, which has apparently undergone some major structural changes that may affect its compatibility with screen readers. So I suggest sticking with FF 52 and avoid updating to FF 57.







Gerald















From: Tom



Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 1:51 AM



To: main@jfw.groups.io



Subject: latest Firefox and latest Jaws







Hi,



Is the latest Firefox, version 57 I think,accessible with the recently released Jaws 18.0.4321?



My current F F version is around 52 and thought it would be worth checking before updating especially now that Jaws 18.0.4321 has been installed.





If not, is the latest FF accessible with the soon to be released Jaws 2018?



Thanks

Tom


Re: latest Firefox and latest Jaws

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Using: W10 Home 64 bit with all updates.

 

Well, I posted the below message earlier today but the situation has been taken out of my hands. 

 

F F updated itself, although it was not supposed to, to the latest version and from a brief exploration, it seems to work ok with both Jaws 18.0.4321 and NVDA.

 

The latest version of Windoweyes is a complete flop though.

 

Tom

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2017 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Firefox and latest Jaws

 

 

Thanks to those who replied to my question regarding F F 57 andJaws.

 

As Jaws 2018 will be released before the end of the month, I’ll wait until then before doing anything about updateing FF to the latest version.

 

Tom

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, 7 October 2017 11:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Firefox and latest Jaws

 

The latest JAWS 2018 public beta release includes enhancements needed to support the new version of firefox.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 7:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Firefox and latest Jaws

 

 

Some users on another list have suddenly started experiencing serious problems with Firefox and JAWS, but it is not clear what the cause is.  They have reported that web browsing has suddenly slowed down significantly, and some web pages will not load at all.  And they cannot even close Firefox once it has been opened, forcing them to perform a hard shutdown and reboot in order to restore things to normal.  It is possible That these users were automatically updated to FF 57, which has apparently undergone some major structural changes that may affect its compatibility with screen readers.  So I suggest sticking with FF 52 and avoid updating to FF 57.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Tom

Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 1:51 AM

Subject: latest Firefox and latest Jaws

 

                Hi,

 

Is the latest Firefox, version 57 I think,accessible with the recently released Jaws 18.0.4321? 

 

My current F F version is around 52 and thought it would be worth checking before updating especially now that Jaws 18.0.4321 has been installed.

 

 

If not, is the latest FF accessible with the soon to be released Jaws 2018?

 

Thanks

Tom

 

 

 

 


Re: JAWS 17 with Windows 10 File Explorer search box, how to access the document results text display window?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Also, Tim. After viewing the virtualized text in the window, use ESCAPE to remove yourself from the virtualized window and return to the regular windows.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 17 with Windows 10 File Explorer search box, how to access the document results text display window?

 

Hi All,

 

When I am in Windows 10 File Explorer (used to be called Windows Explorer), I use control plus e to open the search box.  I get the results I wanted, but I cannot figure out how to get to the segment of the screen where it shows part of the actual text of each document.  I can get the text read by using the JAWS command to read current line, but you have to catch it all on the fly.  I would like to be able to get into that display box and be able to navigate the text. 

 

I realize I can use the JAWS speech history feature, insert plus space bar, then h, but it would be easier if there were a direct way for JAWS to navigate that display pane text. 

 

Any ideas?

 

Just to be clear, I am looking not for file names, but whether a document has the actual word(s) I enter in the text of the document.  My need is to be able to make such a search in one pass on a folder with subfolders that have several hundred documents.

 

Any ideas would be much appreciated!

 

Tim Ford

 


RE Scanner

Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
 

-Hello everyone,

I'm in a fix.

I have two scanners connected to my desktop. I only just discovered this.
One is a regular scanner with OpenBook, and the other was a printer and
which I have just learned, also a scanner.

The problem is that when I launched Openbook I got the prompt Welcome to
Openbook, but thenI could not get it to scan because the message said "no
scanner. I pressed a number of keys and tabbed a few times and then somehow
there was a list of things to choose from. I entered on what I thought was
the correct scanner, and of course it was the wrong one. That's when I found
out about the printer/scanner. It kept scanning, but of course, there's no
voice.

How can I get to the place to where I can select one of the other options to
get my Openbook scanner to launch?

So sorry if this sounds confusing. Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas "


Re: JAWS 17 with Windows 10 File Explorer search box, how to access the document results text display window?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tim. Once you do your CONTROL plus E and get your search results, you can tab twice and arrow up and down through the results. To see the whole window, try:

ALT plus INSERT plus W to virtualize the window. Then you can arrow up and down through the whole window and see all the text.

 

If you are using a laptop keyboard layout, it would be:

ALT plus CAPSLOCK plus W.

 

I hope this does what you need.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 17 with Windows 10 File Explorer search box, how to access the document results text display window?

 

Hi All,

 

When I am in Windows 10 File Explorer (used to be called Windows Explorer), I use control plus e to open the search box.  I get the results I wanted, but I cannot figure out how to get to the segment of the screen where it shows part of the actual text of each document.  I can get the text read by using the JAWS command to read current line, but you have to catch it all on the fly.  I would like to be able to get into that display box and be able to navigate the text. 

 

I realize I can use the JAWS speech history feature, insert plus space bar, then h, but it would be easier if there were a direct way for JAWS to navigate that display pane text. 

 

Any ideas?

 

Just to be clear, I am looking not for file names, but whether a document has the actual word(s) I enter in the text of the document.  My need is to be able to make such a search in one pass on a folder with subfolders that have several hundred documents.

 

Any ideas would be much appreciated!

 

Tim Ford

 


JAWS 17 with Windows 10 File Explorer search box, how to access the document results text display window?

Tim Ford
 

Hi All,

 

When I am in Windows 10 File Explorer (used to be called Windows Explorer), I use control plus e to open the search box.  I get the results I wanted, but I cannot figure out how to get to the segment of the screen where it shows part of the actual text of each document.  I can get the text read by using the JAWS command to read current line, but you have to catch it all on the fly.  I would like to be able to get into that display box and be able to navigate the text. 

 

I realize I can use the JAWS speech history feature, insert plus space bar, then h, but it would be easier if there were a direct way for JAWS to navigate that display pane text. 

 

Any ideas?

 

Just to be clear, I am looking not for file names, but whether a document has the actual word(s) I enter in the text of the document.  My need is to be able to make such a search in one pass on a folder with subfolders that have several hundred documents.

 

Any ideas would be much appreciated!

 

Tim Ford

 


Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Richard. One thing you could do is to find the first link with Tab. Then use Next Same Element, S to skip all other info to get to the next link (same element).

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

 

Thanks Mike for this list of What’s new features.

 

As a former Window-eyes user, the thing I miss most is being able to jump from link to link whether visited or not.  This item for Edge may make me start using Edge a lot:

• You can now use the U and SHIFT+U Navigation Quick Keys in Edge to move by links. Note that in Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome, these commands
only move to the next or previous unvisited link. However, since Edge currently does not indicate when a link has been visited, U and SHIFT+U will move
to all links in this browser.

 

I know tabbing will stop at links, but it stops at other stuff too.

 

I hope Freedom incorporates a short cut key in all browsers to ignore whether a link is visited or not and just skip anything that isn’t a link.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 12:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

 

Howdy All,

 

Here are the download links & what's new for this Beta 2 2018.1710.1 update.

 

32 Bit:

 

 

64 Bit:

 

 


The following is a list of improvements made between the first Public Beta and Public Beta 2. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are included
in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.

 

JAWS
list of 11 items
• If you are running a previous version of JAWS while installing 2018, JAWS now speaks the progress bar which displays the percentage of the install that
is complete. The self-voicing feature of the installer also now announces more progress information.
• Improved various installer messages including the messages confirming a successful install or uninstall.
• When using the default voice contexts for the various cursors and you press NUM PAD+MINUS to turn on the JAWS Cursor, resolved a customer reported issue
where "JAWS Cursor" was not being announced using the correct voice, which uses a lower pitch.
• Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS. These enable French users to search BNFA or ÉOLE, two major French libraries for
the blind.
• When using JAWS Settings Center in Windows 10, resolved an issue where JAWS was not announcing the current location in the tree view after expanding
a group, or the path to the currently selected item when pressing INSERT+UP ARROW. In addition, when navigating the filter tree view of results after performing
a search, JAWS now announces the item followed by its location.
• The What's New in JAWS DAISY book has been updated for JAWS 2018. To get the new book, select Training from the JAWS Help menu to open the JAWS Basic
Training Table of Contents in FSReader, and then press ENTER on the What's New in JAWS link.
• In response to a customer request, JAWS now includes version 3.3 of the Liblouis braille translator.
• Updated the control names in Settings Center for the Virtual Cursor verbosity options to say, "Web Verbosity Levels" and "Configure Web Verbosity Levels",
to make them easier to find when doing a search.
• If the JAWS Laptop keyboard layout is active, resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+SHIFT+1 through 0 was not working in Excel to define a monitor
cell. In addition, INSERT+SHIFT+T now works in Winamp to display track information. In Laptop layout, both The CAPS LOCK and INSERT keys can be used as
the JAWS Key.
• Addressed issues with editing text files on remote systems using SSH.
• A customer using the Spanish version of JAWS reported several issues with various help and application messages. These have been resolved.
list end

 

Convenient OCR
list of 4 items
• In response to customer feedback, improved the quality of the OCR results when using INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, F to recognize an image file or INSERT+SPACEBAR,
O, D to recognize a PDF document in Adobe Reader.
• Addressed reports where JAWS 2018 would not install on certain 64-bit computers. In these cases, the installation process was not able to install the
Convenient OCR components. This is now fixed.
• In response to customer feedback, the camera light frequency correction is now saved when changed through the Advanced dialog box located in the Camera
and Scanner Recognition dialog box.
• JAWS now plays a progress sound when recognizing large PDF documents.
list end

 

Google Docs
list of 2 items
• You can now press CTRL+APOSTROPHE or CTRL+SEMICOLON in Google Docs to move to the next or previous misspelled word in a document.
• When navigating a Google Docs table in Chrome using JAWS table reading commands (ALT+CTRL+ARROW keys, addressed an issue where JAWS was double speaking
cell contents.
list end

 

Microsoft Office
list of 3 items
• Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365 updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses when
typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365 version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.
• When navigating time slots in the Outlook Calendar using Vocalizer Expressive for speech, addressed a reported issue where JAWS was saying "comma" before
the time.
• When opening the Spell Checker for the first time after starting Word 365, resolved an issue where JAWS was not automatically reading the misspelled
word and suggestion.
list end

 

Skype
list of 1 items
• Resolved an issue where both JAWS and Skype would stop working if the Call Quality Feedback dialog box was displayed after ending a call.
list end

 

Web Browsers
list of 10 items
• JAWS 2018 contains changes necessary to support Firefox version 57, scheduled for release in the fourth quarter of 2017.
• Improved overall JAWS performance with Edge. In particular, multiple reports where Edge would unexpectedly stop working on various web pages or become
less responsive after opening multiple pages were addressed.
• When INSERT+A is pressed to read the web page address in Firefox or Chrome, addressed a customer reported issue where this information was not being
displayed in braille if flash message verbosity was set to Advanced.
• Addressed an issue with JAWS double speaking live region updates in Google Chrome.
• Resolved an issue where Internet Explorer would sometimes close unexpectedly when right clicking on various toolbar items using the mouse.
• Resolved a reported issue with JAWS not reading as expected when encountering form controls inside an ARIA grid.
• You can now use the U and SHIFT+U Navigation Quick Keys in Edge to move by links. Note that in Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome, these commands
only move to the next or previous unvisited link. However, since Edge currently does not indicate when a link has been visited, U and SHIFT+U will move
to all links in this browser.
• If the mouse is used to select text on a web page, resolved an issue where pressing CTRL+C was not working as expected to copy the selected text.
• Addressed intermittent issues where domain specific settings were not always loading as expected.
• Resolved an issue with Chrome where braille was not working as expected when typing and navigating in certain edit fields.
list end

 

Windows Mail
list of 2 items
• When opening an email message, resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS was reading the contents of the previous message, even if it had been closed
or deleted.
• When using JAWS table reading commands to navigate a table inserted into a new message, resolved an issue with JAWS not reading as expected.
list end

 

Windows 10
list of 1 items
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the selected item when navigating between time picker controls.
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: latest Firefox and latest Jaws

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

 

Thanks to those who replied to my question regarding F F 57 andJaws.

 

As Jaws 2018 will be released before the end of the month, I’ll wait until then before doing anything about updateing FF to the latest version.

 

Tom

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, 7 October 2017 11:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Firefox and latest Jaws

 

The latest JAWS 2018 public beta release includes enhancements needed to support the new version of firefox.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 7:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Firefox and latest Jaws

 

 

Some users on another list have suddenly started experiencing serious problems with Firefox and JAWS, but it is not clear what the cause is.  They have reported that web browsing has suddenly slowed down significantly, and some web pages will not load at all.  And they cannot even close Firefox once it has been opened, forcing them to perform a hard shutdown and reboot in order to restore things to normal.  It is possible That these users were automatically updated to FF 57, which has apparently undergone some major structural changes that may affect its compatibility with screen readers.  So I suggest sticking with FF 52 and avoid updating to FF 57.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Tom

Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 1:51 AM

Subject: latest Firefox and latest Jaws

 

                Hi,

 

Is the latest Firefox, version 57 I think,accessible with the recently released Jaws 18.0.4321? 

 

My current F F version is around 52 and thought it would be worth checking before updating especially now that Jaws 18.0.4321 has been installed.

 

 

If not, is the latest FF accessible with the soon to be released Jaws 2018?

 

Thanks

Tom

 

 

 

 


what is the direct link to firefox u.s. english 52.3?

David Ingram
 

hi netpad66 can you please tell me the direct link to the u.s.english 52.3 version of firefox! I need to download it assoon as possible. I usually go to a web page that has a captcha which needs to be solved each time I go to this page. Thank you for any information that you might have concerning the direct link.

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