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Re: ZoomText Fusion?

Michael Mote
 

I've tested it here at work, and I like the flexibility that it provides.
If you need to use just JAWS, you can. Same goes for Zoomtext. If you want
to run both, then you can use the Fusion option. I haven't encountered any
issues that are specific to Fusion.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 1:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ZoomText Fusion?

Is anyone using ZoomText Fusion 11, the merging of zoomText and JAWS? Is
there a list for fusion users or wanta-be's?

Thanks,


Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Jonas Voll
 

Hey, Tim Ford
Stereo & stereo mix is not the same thing!
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+stereo+mix&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjH-afO_NvWAhVhw4MKHcuYCjYQvwUIJSgA&biw=960&bih=478
I like the sound blaster hardware!

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 4:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Hello Jonas,

Thank you very much for mentioning that. I had assumed that all USB sound cards would be stereo. Is there something more than that I should look for in the specifications? Any particular recommended USB sound cards?

I did try JAWS 2018 BETA, but it did not change the JAWS sound, as most of you predicted. I did want to try 2018 since I assume it would give better overall performance with web pages that use the latest and greatest visual designs. However, I found that 2018 was terrible with my Office 2010 programs, and somehow also affected my JAWS 17, which suddenly was doing a lot of sluggish things, going silent for a good minute or so, and common operations, such as spellcheck, were real problems in Outlook. I removed JAWS 2018, and my problems cleared up; JAWS 17 is back to what qualifies by today's standards as working well.

So USB sound card shopping I will go, after I receive whatever guidance this great group can provide!

Sincerely,
Tim Ford



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Hey, Tim Ford!
If you get a new sound card I recommend one that will support Stereo Mix or what you hear is what you get!


Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

I know you said you disabled effects, but it totally sounds to me like something is still enabled which causes this.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Thanks for all the feedback so far. I am already using headphones. What has been suggested to me is to try an external USB sound card. There are other JAWS performance issues such as strange lags, pops, clicks, and generally not fun. Not terrible, but with all the time I spend on the computer, it is worth it to me to invest even more money, such as to buy the sound card.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good systems. I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or 3.5mm audio jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the problem remains when using a different output. It may simply be that the built-in speakers will not give good enough results to use at the speed you would like.

On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced
group of JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed
96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice
degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter
or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point
where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give
the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This
really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook,
and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand
laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more
RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not
exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest
update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated
the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.
No improvement. By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle
those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned
I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to
walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they
described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to
slow it down, and the problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I
had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while
acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the
most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would
have the best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time
they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version
17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost
reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my
previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will
try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a
recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...




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Re: Quickest route to Windows Explorer

David Bailes
 

Hi Danney,
as others have said, you can press windows key + E to open Windows Explorer with the Computer folder as the current location.

In addition, by default, a Windows Explorer button is the second of the taskbar buttons on the taskbar. If you open windows explorer by pressing this button, then Windows Explorer is opened with the Libraries folder as the current location. If windows explorer is the second of the taskbar buttons, then you can press it using the shortcut Windows Key + 2. (The shortcuts Windows key + number can be used for pressing the taskbar buttons.)

This information, plus lots more is available in this guide to Windows Explorer on Windows 7:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Explorer-7-Guide.html

David.


On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 05:01 pm, Yates, Danney wrote:

Using Win 7, JAWS 18, When on Desktop, what is quickest route to get to Windows Explorer?  Also, same question ffor Libraries.

Thanks

 

 

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good server mailling lists

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. Does any one know of any good mailing lists, so I can then discuss servers and server operating and networking software, hardware.

Thanks.




Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

How does the laptop handle movies or music? If it sounds fine with those it is a Jaws issue. If they sound bad also it is a soundcard issue. But It could be software or hardware. 99% of the time my sound was hollow or vague sounding it was some effect or enhancement that was making it sound bad. I know you have been through this. So  if it isnt Jaws perhaps you should uninstall the soundcard driver and reinstall the latest driver. If it is Jaws then do a Jaws repair useing the /type repair.

On 10/5/2017 11:18 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
I honestly dont think a different soundcard is going to help. Even cheap onboard sound is up to handling jaws. Unless your soundcard has a hardware issue it is most likely a software issue. I have had over a dozen computers and laptops and not one had a problem with Jaws. Speaking of cheap what kind of Digital to analog chip do you think they put in a usb dongle that comes with a 30 dollor set of headphones?
On 10/5/2017 10:37 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I don't bother with an actual USB sound card, I just use USB
headphones and the on-board audio quality issue is taken care of. The
sound card is only necessary if you wish to use standalone speakers
but honestly I prefer the headphones because I can turn them down
extremely low and still hear. As long as the cheapest end of the range
is avoided I have been happy with just about every set I've purchased
($30 and up). The ones I have now are logictech something or other,
capable of 3D sound but I don't use that ability (I barely use
left-right mixing, let alone forward-back or up-down).

On 10/5/17, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
Hello Jonas,

Thank you very much for mentioning that.  I had assumed that all USB sound
cards would be stereo.  Is there something more than that I should look for
in the specifications?  Any particular recommended USB sound cards?

I did try JAWS 2018 BETA, but it did not change the JAWS sound, as most of
you predicted.  I did want to try 2018 since I assume it would give better
overall performance with web pages that use the latest and greatest visual
designs.  However, I found that 2018 was terrible with my Office 2010
programs, and somehow also affected my JAWS 17, which suddenly was doing a
lot of sluggish things, going silent for a good minute or so, and common
operations, such as spellcheck, were real problems in Outlook.  I removed
JAWS 2018, and my problems cleared up; JAWS 17 is back to what qualifies by
today's standards as working well.

So USB sound card shopping I will go, after I receive whatever guidance this
great group can provide!

Sincerely,
Tim Ford



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas
Voll
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have
tried, what should I try next?

Hey, Tim Ford!
If you get a new sound card I recommend one that will support Stereo Mix or
what you hear is what you get!


Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita,  KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the
blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation,
education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have
tried, what should I try next?

I know you said you disabled effects, but it totally sounds to me like
something is still enabled which causes this.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have
tried, what should I try next?

Thanks for all the feedback so far.  I am already using headphones.  What
has been suggested to me is to try an external USB sound card.  There are
other JAWS performance issues such as strange lags, pops, clicks, and
generally not fun.  Not terrible, but with all the time I spend on the
computer, it is worth it to me to invest even more money, such as to buy the
sound card.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have
tried, what should I try next?

On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good systems.
I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or 3.5mm audio
jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the problem remains
when using a different output. It may simply be that the built-in speakers
will not give good enough results to use at the speed you would like.

On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done.  I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:
[1  <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2  <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced
group of JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed
96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice
degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter
or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point
where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give
the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This
really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook,
and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand
laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more
RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not
exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest
update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated
the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the
machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.
No improvement. By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle
those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned
I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to
walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they
described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair
feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to
slow it down, and the problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I
had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while
acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the
most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would
have the best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time
they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version
17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost
reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my
previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will
try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a
recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

          John Covici
          covici@...



--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...











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Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

I honestly dont think a different soundcard is going to help. Even cheap onboard sound is up to handling jaws. Unless your soundcard has a hardware issue it is most likely a software issue. I have had over a dozen computers and laptops and not one had a problem with Jaws. Speaking of cheap what kind of Digital to analog chip do you think they put in a usb dongle that comes with a 30 dollor set of headphones?

On 10/5/2017 10:37 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I don't bother with an actual USB sound card, I just use USB
headphones and the on-board audio quality issue is taken care of. The
sound card is only necessary if you wish to use standalone speakers
but honestly I prefer the headphones because I can turn them down
extremely low and still hear. As long as the cheapest end of the range
is avoided I have been happy with just about every set I've purchased
($30 and up). The ones I have now are logictech something or other,
capable of 3D sound but I don't use that ability (I barely use
left-right mixing, let alone forward-back or up-down).

On 10/5/17, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
Hello Jonas,

Thank you very much for mentioning that. I had assumed that all USB sound
cards would be stereo. Is there something more than that I should look for
in the specifications? Any particular recommended USB sound cards?

I did try JAWS 2018 BETA, but it did not change the JAWS sound, as most of
you predicted. I did want to try 2018 since I assume it would give better
overall performance with web pages that use the latest and greatest visual
designs. However, I found that 2018 was terrible with my Office 2010
programs, and somehow also affected my JAWS 17, which suddenly was doing a
lot of sluggish things, going silent for a good minute or so, and common
operations, such as spellcheck, were real problems in Outlook. I removed
JAWS 2018, and my problems cleared up; JAWS 17 is back to what qualifies by
today's standards as working well.

So USB sound card shopping I will go, after I receive whatever guidance this
great group can provide!

Sincerely,
Tim Ford



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas
Voll
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have
tried, what should I try next?

Hey, Tim Ford!
If you get a new sound card I recommend one that will support Stereo Mix or
what you hear is what you get!


Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the
blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation,
education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have
tried, what should I try next?

I know you said you disabled effects, but it totally sounds to me like
something is still enabled which causes this.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have
tried, what should I try next?

Thanks for all the feedback so far. I am already using headphones. What
has been suggested to me is to try an external USB sound card. There are
other JAWS performance issues such as strange lags, pops, clicks, and
generally not fun. Not terrible, but with all the time I spend on the
computer, it is worth it to me to invest even more money, such as to buy the
sound card.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have
tried, what should I try next?

On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good systems.
I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or 3.5mm audio
jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the problem remains
when using a different output. It may simply be that the built-in speakers
will not give good enough results to use at the speed you would like.

On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:
[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced
group of JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed
96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice
degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter
or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point
where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give
the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This
really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook,
and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand
laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more
RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not
exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest
update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated
the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the
machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.
No improvement. By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle
those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned
I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to
walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they
described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair
feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to
slow it down, and the problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I
had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while
acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the
most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would
have the best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time
they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version
17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost
reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my
previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will
try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a
recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...



--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...











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Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Their Edge support will improve, I really don't get what everybody is so upset about considering how we all got along with IE, Firefox and/or Google Chrome all this time.
To me one of the biggest features ever is Convenient OCR and the fact that it's now expanded where you can do OCR on any image file from the context menu is pretty huge.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

The jaws 2018 feature list looks pretty disappointing. I mean, come on, they claim Edge browser support but select and copy operations aren't supported?

The ability to OCR from the pearl might be nice (though how I use my laptop now would make that difficult).

On 10/5/17, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Gudrun,

These are download links for the 2018 Beta version, or under the old
numbering sequence this would be Jaws 19. These are not for Jaws 18!
But,

I've included the download links + what's new for the latest Jaws 18
update,

which you can download & run the executable on your laptop. The below
JAWS

18 update links came out September 26.

Below are the direct download links for the latest J18.0.4321 update,
& what's new in this build.

32 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4321AMNRC2/J18.0.4321enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4321AMNRC2/J18.0.4321enu-x64.exe

What's new:

Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.4321 (September 2017)

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 July
2017 release and the September 2017 update.

Microsoft Edge Support (must be enabled in Settings Center)

This update introduces support for Edge, the latest web browser from
Microsoft included in Windows 10. To use JAWS with Edge, you must be
running the Windows
10 Creators update (version 1703) or later. While there are still
several JAWS features that are not available in Edge such as selecting
and copying using the Virtual Cursor, PlaceMarkers, Smart Navigation,
Flexible Web, and domain-specific settings, we have made the overall
experience of navigating pages in Edge using both speech and braille
as similar as possible to working in Internet Explorer, Chrome, or
Firefox. As we continue to work with Microsoft to improve the Edge
experience, future JAWS updates will include greater functionality.
Edge support is also available in the new JAWS 2018.

Edge support is turned off by default in JAWS 18. This is because
support for Microsoft Edge depends on some emerging technologies,
which we continue to fine-tune in close collaboration with Microsoft.
You can turn on Edge support through Settings Center by doing the
following:

list of 6 items
1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the JAWS default settings.
3. In the Search edit box, type "edge browser" without the quotes.
4. Press DOWN ARROW to move to "Microsoft Edge Browser Support" in the
filtered search results in the tree view.
5. Press SPACEBAR to toggle this option.
6. Press ENTER to save your change and close Settings Center, and then
quit and restart JAWS.
list end

Once JAWS is restarted, you will be able to use JAWS to access web
pages in Edge. If you encounter any unusual issues after enabling Edge
support, you can go back into Settings Center as described above and
disable it. If you do this, please let our Tech Support team know so
the issue can be investigated.

The Virtual Cursor is used to read pages in Edge just like in other
browsers. You can use the standard reading commands as well as most of
the Navigation Quick Keys to navigate through pages. Currently, there
are a few Navigation Quick Keys that are not yet supported in Edge,
however the most used commands; moving by headings, paragraphs, forms,
tables, lists, graphics, and regions, are available. More Navigation
Quick Keys will be supported in future updates.

By default, JAWS uses Semi-auto Forms Mode in Edge, which turns on
Forms Mode automatically only when you move to a form control using
TAB or
SHIFT+TAB.
Due to the way Edge displays pages, Auto Forms Mode is not available
as it is possible to have multiple controls on a single line. You will
need to press ENTER to turn on Forms Mode if you use the ARROW keys to
move to form fields.

Other familiar JAWS features that are currently supported include:

list of 4 items
. Displaying a list of links, headings, or form controls by pressing
INSERT+F7, INSERT+F6, or INSERT+F5.
. Searching for text on the current page by pressing CTRL+F.
. Obtaining font information by pressing INSERT+F.
. The ability for JAWS to detect changes in the language used on a web
page and automatically switch to the appropriate voice if available.
list end

As you begin using Edge, one important item to note is that Edge is a
modern app with no menu bar that can be accessed using the ALT key. To
access Edge specific features, press TAB from the bottom of a page or
SHIFT+TAB from the top. Continue using TAB or SHIFT+TAB to move
through the various controls until you cycle back around to the
content area. Alternatively, Edge offers many of the same shortcut
keys found in other browsers such as CTRL+T to open a new tab, CTRL+H
for History, CTRL+I for Favorites, CTRL+J for Downloads, and so on.

Other Changes
list of 16 items
. Resolved stability issues reported by multiple customers using JAWS
with Outlook 365.
. Addressed a reported issue with Audacity, a popular sound editor,
where the application would stop working when attempting to open an
MP3 file with JAWS currently running.
. This update contains changes necessary to support Firefox version
57, scheduled for release in the fourth quarter of 2017. Firefox users
must update to JAWS 18.0.4321 to continue using this browser when it
updates to version 57.
. Added the latest Brailliant BI display drivers from Humanware to
support their Brailliant BI14 braille display.
. Resolved a customer reported issue with the UPS Tracking Research It
lookup source not displaying any results.
. In Internet Explorer, addressed a customer reported issue with JAWS
not always reading the correct label on form controls when navigating
using TAB.
. Resolved an issue where JAWS was not correctly loading settings for
Office applications when Office 365 was installed through the Windows
Store.
. Addressed an issue with JAWS not reading the contents of a book in
the Kindle for PC app.
. In the latest version of Outlook 365, addressed issues with JAWS not
reading as expected when navigating in the list of suggestions that
displays when typing a contact's name into a new message or calendar
appointment.
. Resolved a customer reported issue where changes to voice profile
settings were not being honored for the DECTalk USB hardware
synthesizer.
. Addressed an issue with both the DECTalk Express and DECTalk USB
hardware synthesizers where JAWS would unexpectedly close when
performing a SayAll from a web browser.
. When running JAWS and ZoomText together in Windows 7, resolved an
issue where ZoomText's focus tracking was not working properly on the
Secure Desktop or the Logon screen.
. JAWS visual tracking is now enabled by default when navigating
Windows HTML Help content such as the JAWS Help.
. A customer reported that JAWS was not working as expected with a
particular Java application. This issue has been resolved.
. Resolved a reported issue with the German version of JAWS not
working as expected after attempting to print or close a document in Word 2013.
. Fixed braille output issues with Hebrew.
list end

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gudrun Brunot
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New


Hello: Question: I am in the process of obtaining a laptop. Do I need
to install the JAWS 18 from disk, or can I simply install this update?



Gudrun


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 12:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

Howdy All,

Here are the download links & what's new for this Beta 2 2018.1710.1
update.

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171001VA453T/J2018.1710.1enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171001VA453T/J2018.1710.1enu-x64.exe


The following is a list of improvements made between the first Public
Beta and Public Beta 2. Note that while many customer-reported
enhancements are included in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.

JAWS
list of 11 items
. If you are running a previous version of JAWS while installing 2018,
JAWS now speaks the progress bar which displays the percentage of the
install that is complete. The self-voicing feature of the installer
also now announces more progress information.
. Improved various installer messages including the messages
confirming a successful install or uninstall.
. When using the default voice contexts for the various cursors and
you press NUM PAD+MINUS to turn on the JAWS Cursor, resolved a
customer reported issue where "JAWS Cursor" was not being announced
using the correct voice, which uses a lower pitch.
. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS.
These enable French users to search BNFA or ÉOLE, two major French
libraries for the blind.
. When using JAWS Settings Center in Windows 10, resolved an issue
where JAWS was not announcing the current location in the tree view
after expanding a group, or the path to the currently selected item
when pressing
INSERT+UP ARROW. In addition, when navigating the filter tree view of
results after performing a search, JAWS now announces the item
followed by its location.
. The What's New in JAWS DAISY book has been updated for JAWS 2018. To
get the new book, select Training from the JAWS Help menu to open the
JAWS Basic Training Table of Contents in FSReader, and then press
ENTER on the What's New in JAWS link.
. In response to a customer request, JAWS now includes version 3.3 of
the Liblouis braille translator.
. Updated the control names in Settings Center for the Virtual Cursor
verbosity options to say, "Web Verbosity Levels" and "Configure Web
Verbosity Levels", to make them easier to find when doing a search.
. If the JAWS Laptop keyboard layout is active, resolved an issue
where pressing INSERT+SHIFT+1 through 0 was not working in Excel to
define a monitor cell. In addition, INSERT+SHIFT+T now works in Winamp
to display track information. In Laptop layout, both The CAPS LOCK and
INSERT keys can be used as the JAWS Key.
. Addressed issues with editing text files on remote systems using SSH.
. A customer using the Spanish version of JAWS reported several issues
with various help and application messages. These have been resolved.
list end

Convenient OCR
list of 4 items
. In response to customer feedback, improved the quality of the OCR
results when using INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, F to recognize an image file or
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to recognize a PDF document in Adobe Reader.
. Addressed reports where JAWS 2018 would not install on certain
64-bit computers. In these cases, the installation process was not
able to install the Convenient OCR components. This is now fixed.
. In response to customer feedback, the camera light frequency
correction is now saved when changed through the Advanced dialog box
located in the Camera and Scanner Recognition dialog box.
. JAWS now plays a progress sound when recognizing large PDF documents.
list end

Google Docs
list of 2 items
. You can now press CTRL+APOSTROPHE or CTRL+SEMICOLON in Google Docs
to move to the next or previous misspelled word in a document.
. When navigating a Google Docs table in Chrome using JAWS table
reading commands (ALT+CTRL+ARROW keys, addressed an issue where JAWS
was double speaking cell contents.
list end

Microsoft Office
list of 3 items
. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook
365 updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested
addresses when typing in the address fields of a new message. To check
your Outlook
365 version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.
. When navigating time slots in the Outlook Calendar using Vocalizer
Expressive for speech, addressed a reported issue where JAWS was
saying "comma" before the time.
. When opening the Spell Checker for the first time after starting
Word 365, resolved an issue where JAWS was not automatically reading
the misspelled word and suggestion.
list end

Skype
list of 1 items
. Resolved an issue where both JAWS and Skype would stop working if
the Call Quality Feedback dialog box was displayed after ending a
call.
list end

Web Browsers
list of 10 items
. JAWS 2018 contains changes necessary to support Firefox version 57,
scheduled for release in the fourth quarter of 2017.
. Improved overall JAWS performance with Edge. In particular, multiple
reports where Edge would unexpectedly stop working on various web
pages or become less responsive after opening multiple pages were addressed.
. When INSERT+A is pressed to read the web page address in Firefox or
Chrome, addressed a customer reported issue where this information was
not being displayed in braille if flash message verbosity was set to Advanced.
. Addressed an issue with JAWS double speaking live region updates in
Google Chrome.
. Resolved an issue where Internet Explorer would sometimes close
unexpectedly when right clicking on various toolbar items using the mouse.
. Resolved a reported issue with JAWS not reading as expected when
encountering form controls inside an ARIA grid.
. You can now use the U and SHIFT+U Navigation Quick Keys in Edge to
move by links. Note that in Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome,
these commands only move to the next or previous unvisited link.
However, since Edge currently does not indicate when a link has been
visited, U and SHIFT+U will move to all links in this browser.
. If the mouse is used to select text on a web page, resolved an issue
where pressing CTRL+C was not working as expected to copy the selected
text.
. Addressed intermittent issues where domain specific settings were
not always loading as expected.
. Resolved an issue with Chrome where braille was not working as
expected when typing and navigating in certain edit fields.
list end

Windows Mail
list of 2 items
. When opening an email message, resolved a customer reported issue
where JAWS was reading the contents of the previous message, even if
it had been closed or deleted.
. When using JAWS table reading commands to navigate a table inserted
into a new message, resolved an issue with JAWS not reading as
expected.
list end

Windows 10
list of 1 items
. Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the selected item
when navigating between time picker controls.
list end

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.





--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

Soronel Haetir
 

The jaws 2018 feature list looks pretty disappointing. I mean, come
on, they claim Edge browser support but select and copy operations
aren't supported?

The ability to OCR from the pearl might be nice (though how I use my
laptop now would make that difficult).

On 10/5/17, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Gudrun,

These are download links for the 2018 Beta version, or under the old
numbering sequence this would be Jaws 19. These are not for Jaws 18! But,

I've included the download links + what's new for the latest Jaws 18 update,

which you can download & run the executable on your laptop. The below JAWS

18 update links came out September 26.

Below are the direct download links for the latest J18.0.4321 update, &
what's
new in this build.

32 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4321AMNRC2/J18.0.4321enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4321AMNRC2/J18.0.4321enu-x64.exe

What's new:

Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.4321 (September 2017)

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 July 2017
release and the September 2017 update.

Microsoft Edge Support (must be enabled in Settings Center)

This update introduces support for Edge, the latest web browser from
Microsoft included in Windows 10. To use JAWS with Edge, you must be
running
the Windows
10 Creators update (version 1703) or later. While there are still several
JAWS features that are not available in Edge such as selecting and copying
using
the Virtual Cursor, PlaceMarkers, Smart Navigation, Flexible Web, and
domain-specific settings, we have made the overall experience of navigating
pages
in Edge using both speech and braille as similar as possible to working in
Internet Explorer, Chrome, or Firefox. As we continue to work with
Microsoft
to improve the Edge experience, future JAWS updates will include greater
functionality. Edge support is also available in the new JAWS 2018.

Edge support is turned off by default in JAWS 18. This is because support
for Microsoft Edge depends on some emerging technologies, which we continue
to
fine-tune in close collaboration with Microsoft. You can turn on Edge
support through Settings Center by doing the following:

list of 6 items
1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the JAWS default settings.
3. In the Search edit box, type "edge browser" without the quotes.
4. Press DOWN ARROW to move to "Microsoft Edge Browser Support" in the
filtered search results in the tree view.
5. Press SPACEBAR to toggle this option.
6. Press ENTER to save your change and close Settings Center, and then quit
and restart JAWS.
list end

Once JAWS is restarted, you will be able to use JAWS to access web pages in
Edge. If you encounter any unusual issues after enabling Edge support, you
can go back into Settings Center as described above and disable it. If you
do this, please let our Tech Support team know so the issue can be
investigated.

The Virtual Cursor is used to read pages in Edge just like in other
browsers. You can use the standard reading commands as well as most of the
Navigation
Quick Keys to navigate through pages. Currently, there are a few Navigation
Quick Keys that are not yet supported in Edge, however the most used
commands;
moving by headings, paragraphs, forms, tables, lists, graphics, and
regions,
are available. More Navigation Quick Keys will be supported in future
updates.

By default, JAWS uses Semi-auto Forms Mode in Edge, which turns on Forms
Mode automatically only when you move to a form control using TAB or
SHIFT+TAB.
Due to the way Edge displays pages, Auto Forms Mode is not available as it
is possible to have multiple controls on a single line. You will need to
press
ENTER to turn on Forms Mode if you use the ARROW keys to move to form
fields.

Other familiar JAWS features that are currently supported include:

list of 4 items
. Displaying a list of links, headings, or form controls by pressing
INSERT+F7, INSERT+F6, or INSERT+F5.
. Searching for text on the current page by pressing CTRL+F.
. Obtaining font information by pressing INSERT+F.
. The ability for JAWS to detect changes in the language used on a web page
and automatically switch to the appropriate voice if available.
list end

As you begin using Edge, one important item to note is that Edge is a
modern
app with no menu bar that can be accessed using the ALT key. To access Edge
specific features, press TAB from the bottom of a page or SHIFT+TAB from
the
top. Continue using TAB or SHIFT+TAB to move through the various controls
until you cycle back around to the content area. Alternatively, Edge offers
many of the same shortcut keys found in other browsers such as CTRL+T to
open
a new tab, CTRL+H for History, CTRL+I for Favorites, CTRL+J for Downloads,
and so on.

Other Changes
list of 16 items
. Resolved stability issues reported by multiple customers using JAWS with
Outlook 365.
. Addressed a reported issue with Audacity, a popular sound editor, where
the application would stop working when attempting to open an MP3 file with
JAWS
currently running.
. This update contains changes necessary to support Firefox version 57,
scheduled for release in the fourth quarter of 2017. Firefox users must
update
to JAWS 18.0.4321 to continue using this browser when it updates to version
57.
. Added the latest Brailliant BI display drivers from Humanware to support
their Brailliant BI14 braille display.
. Resolved a customer reported issue with the UPS Tracking Research It
lookup source not displaying any results.
. In Internet Explorer, addressed a customer reported issue with JAWS not
always reading the correct label on form controls when navigating using
TAB.
. Resolved an issue where JAWS was not correctly loading settings for
Office
applications when Office 365 was installed through the Windows Store.
. Addressed an issue with JAWS not reading the contents of a book in the
Kindle for PC app.
. In the latest version of Outlook 365, addressed issues with JAWS not
reading as expected when navigating in the list of suggestions that
displays
when
typing a contact's name into a new message or calendar appointment.
. Resolved a customer reported issue where changes to voice profile
settings
were not being honored for the DECTalk USB hardware synthesizer.
. Addressed an issue with both the DECTalk Express and DECTalk USB hardware
synthesizers where JAWS would unexpectedly close when performing a SayAll
from
a web browser.
. When running JAWS and ZoomText together in Windows 7, resolved an issue
where ZoomText's focus tracking was not working properly on the Secure
Desktop
or the Logon screen.
. JAWS visual tracking is now enabled by default when navigating Windows
HTML Help content such as the JAWS Help.
. A customer reported that JAWS was not working as expected with a
particular Java application. This issue has been resolved.
. Resolved a reported issue with the German version of JAWS not working as
expected after attempting to print or close a document in Word 2013.
. Fixed braille output issues with Hebrew.
list end

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gudrun Brunot
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New


Hello: Question: I am in the process of obtaining a laptop. Do I need to
install the JAWS 18 from disk, or can I simply install this update?



Gudrun


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 12:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

Howdy All,

Here are the download links & what's new for this Beta 2 2018.1710.1
update.

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171001VA453T/J2018.1710.1enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171001VA453T/J2018.1710.1enu-x64.exe


The following is a list of improvements made between the first Public Beta
and Public Beta 2. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are
included in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.

JAWS
list of 11 items
. If you are running a previous version of JAWS while installing 2018, JAWS
now speaks the progress bar which displays the percentage of the install
that is complete. The self-voicing feature of the installer also now
announces more progress information.
. Improved various installer messages including the messages confirming a
successful install or uninstall.
. When using the default voice contexts for the various cursors and you
press NUM PAD+MINUS to turn on the JAWS Cursor, resolved a customer
reported
issue where "JAWS Cursor" was not being announced using the correct voice,
which uses a lower pitch.
. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS. These
enable French users to search BNFA or ÉOLE, two major French libraries for
the blind.
. When using JAWS Settings Center in Windows 10, resolved an issue where
JAWS was not announcing the current location in the tree view after
expanding a group, or the path to the currently selected item when pressing
INSERT+UP ARROW. In addition, when navigating the filter tree view of
results after performing a search, JAWS now announces the item followed by
its location.
. The What's New in JAWS DAISY book has been updated for JAWS 2018. To get
the new book, select Training from the JAWS Help menu to open the JAWS
Basic
Training Table of Contents in FSReader, and then press ENTER on the What's
New in JAWS link.
. In response to a customer request, JAWS now includes version 3.3 of the
Liblouis braille translator.
. Updated the control names in Settings Center for the Virtual Cursor
verbosity options to say, "Web Verbosity Levels" and "Configure Web
Verbosity Levels", to make them easier to find when doing a search.
. If the JAWS Laptop keyboard layout is active, resolved an issue where
pressing INSERT+SHIFT+1 through 0 was not working in Excel to define a
monitor cell. In addition, INSERT+SHIFT+T now works in Winamp to display
track information. In Laptop layout, both The CAPS LOCK and INSERT keys can
be used as the JAWS Key.
. Addressed issues with editing text files on remote systems using SSH.
. A customer using the Spanish version of JAWS reported several issues with
various help and application messages. These have been resolved.
list end

Convenient OCR
list of 4 items
. In response to customer feedback, improved the quality of the OCR results
when using INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, F to recognize an image file or
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to recognize a PDF document in Adobe Reader.
. Addressed reports where JAWS 2018 would not install on certain 64-bit
computers. In these cases, the installation process was not able to install
the Convenient OCR components. This is now fixed.
. In response to customer feedback, the camera light frequency correction
is
now saved when changed through the Advanced dialog box located in the
Camera
and Scanner Recognition dialog box.
. JAWS now plays a progress sound when recognizing large PDF documents.
list end

Google Docs
list of 2 items
. You can now press CTRL+APOSTROPHE or CTRL+SEMICOLON in Google Docs to
move
to the next or previous misspelled word in a document.
. When navigating a Google Docs table in Chrome using JAWS table reading
commands (ALT+CTRL+ARROW keys, addressed an issue where JAWS was double
speaking cell contents.
list end

Microsoft Office
list of 3 items
. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook
365 version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.
. When navigating time slots in the Outlook Calendar using Vocalizer
Expressive for speech, addressed a reported issue where JAWS was saying
"comma" before the time.
. When opening the Spell Checker for the first time after starting Word
365,
resolved an issue where JAWS was not automatically reading the misspelled
word and suggestion.
list end

Skype
list of 1 items
. Resolved an issue where both JAWS and Skype would stop working if the
Call
Quality Feedback dialog box was displayed after ending a call.
list end

Web Browsers
list of 10 items
. JAWS 2018 contains changes necessary to support Firefox version 57,
scheduled for release in the fourth quarter of 2017.
. Improved overall JAWS performance with Edge. In particular, multiple
reports where Edge would unexpectedly stop working on various web pages or
become less responsive after opening multiple pages were addressed.
. When INSERT+A is pressed to read the web page address in Firefox or
Chrome, addressed a customer reported issue where this information was not
being displayed in braille if flash message verbosity was set to Advanced.
. Addressed an issue with JAWS double speaking live region updates in
Google
Chrome.
. Resolved an issue where Internet Explorer would sometimes close
unexpectedly when right clicking on various toolbar items using the mouse.
. Resolved a reported issue with JAWS not reading as expected when
encountering form controls inside an ARIA grid.
. You can now use the U and SHIFT+U Navigation Quick Keys in Edge to move
by
links. Note that in Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome, these commands
only move to the next or previous unvisited link. However, since Edge
currently does not indicate when a link has been visited, U and SHIFT+U
will
move to all links in this browser.
. If the mouse is used to select text on a web page, resolved an issue
where
pressing CTRL+C was not working as expected to copy the selected text.
. Addressed intermittent issues where domain specific settings were not
always loading as expected.
. Resolved an issue with Chrome where braille was not working as expected
when typing and navigating in certain edit fields.
list end

Windows Mail
list of 2 items
. When opening an email message, resolved a customer reported issue where
JAWS was reading the contents of the previous message, even if it had been
closed or deleted.
. When using JAWS table reading commands to navigate a table inserted into
a
new message, resolved an issue with JAWS not reading as expected.
list end

Windows 10
list of 1 items
. Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the selected item when
navigating between time picker controls.
list end

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.




--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Soronel Haetir
 

I don't bother with an actual USB sound card, I just use USB
headphones and the on-board audio quality issue is taken care of. The
sound card is only necessary if you wish to use standalone speakers
but honestly I prefer the headphones because I can turn them down
extremely low and still hear. As long as the cheapest end of the range
is avoided I have been happy with just about every set I've purchased
($30 and up). The ones I have now are logictech something or other,
capable of 3D sound but I don't use that ability (I barely use
left-right mixing, let alone forward-back or up-down).

On 10/5/17, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
Hello Jonas,

Thank you very much for mentioning that. I had assumed that all USB sound
cards would be stereo. Is there something more than that I should look for
in the specifications? Any particular recommended USB sound cards?

I did try JAWS 2018 BETA, but it did not change the JAWS sound, as most of
you predicted. I did want to try 2018 since I assume it would give better
overall performance with web pages that use the latest and greatest visual
designs. However, I found that 2018 was terrible with my Office 2010
programs, and somehow also affected my JAWS 17, which suddenly was doing a
lot of sluggish things, going silent for a good minute or so, and common
operations, such as spellcheck, were real problems in Outlook. I removed
JAWS 2018, and my problems cleared up; JAWS 17 is back to what qualifies by
today's standards as working well.

So USB sound card shopping I will go, after I receive whatever guidance this
great group can provide!

Sincerely,
Tim Ford



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas
Voll
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have
tried, what should I try next?

Hey, Tim Ford!
If you get a new sound card I recommend one that will support Stereo Mix or
what you hear is what you get!


Jonas Voll
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have
tried, what should I try next?

I know you said you disabled effects, but it totally sounds to me like
something is still enabled which causes this.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have
tried, what should I try next?

Thanks for all the feedback so far. I am already using headphones. What
has been suggested to me is to try an external USB sound card. There are
other JAWS performance issues such as strange lags, pops, clicks, and
generally not fun. Not terrible, but with all the time I spend on the
computer, it is worth it to me to invest even more money, such as to buy the
sound card.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have
tried, what should I try next?

On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good systems.
I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or 3.5mm audio
jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the problem remains
when using a different output. It may simply be that the built-in speakers
will not give good enough results to use at the speed you would like.

On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced
group of JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed
96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice
degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter
or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point
where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give
the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This
really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook,
and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand
laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more
RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not
exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest
update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated
the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the
machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.
No improvement. By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle
those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned
I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to
walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they
described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair
feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to
slow it down, and the problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I
had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while
acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the
most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would
have the best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time
they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version
17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost
reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my
previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will
try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a
recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

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Re: Outlook no longer speaking email address

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Same here.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy
Meyer
Sent: October 5, 2017 6:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook no longer speaking email address

In the past couple of days Jaws is not speaking the email address as I type
it into Outlook 2016.

For example, if I was sending an email to myself, I would start typing my
name into the to field. I would press the letter r and Jaws would say
randymeyer@..., I could arrow down to hear other email addresses
that started with r as well. If I typed RA I could arrow down through a
list of email addresses that started with RA. Now when I type R I hear
nothing. If I tab away and shift-tab back it will say
randymeyer@....

I thought this was still working after I loaded the latest Jaws 18 update.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Re: Outlook no longer speaking email address

Cristóbal
 

A big time inconvenient bug with the latest Jaws release from a few days
ago. VFO is aware of it. Only options are either system restore to the prior
V-18 or put up with it until they issue another update. Which considering
that the next major release is only a few weeks away may mean the fix will
be in the major update itself.
I'm dealing with another bug when replying or forwarding an email. Jaws can
no longer read by line. If I arrow up or down, Jaws behaves as though I'm at
the end of a window. Only by using the read by paragraph command can I
access the other text on the window. VFO tells me that they're not hearing
of this issue with other folks who have installed the 9/26/17 update, so who
knows.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy
Meyer
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 6:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook no longer speaking email address

In the past couple of days Jaws is not speaking the email address as I type
it into Outlook 2016.

For example, if I was sending an email to myself, I would start typing my
name into the to field. I would press the letter r and Jaws would say
randymeyer@..., I could arrow down to hear other email addresses
that started with r as well. If I typed RA I could arrow down through a
list of email addresses that started with RA. Now when I type R I hear
nothing. If I tab away and shift-tab back it will say
randymeyer@....

I thought this was still working after I loaded the latest Jaws 18 update.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Outlook no longer speaking email address

Randy Meyer
 

In the past couple of days Jaws is not speaking the email address as I type
it into Outlook 2016.

For example, if I was sending an email to myself, I would start typing my
name into the to field. I would press the letter r and Jaws would say
randymeyer@..., I could arrow down to hear other email addresses
that started with r as well. If I typed RA I could arrow down through a
list of email addresses that started with RA. Now when I type R I hear
nothing. If I tab away and shift-tab back it will say
randymeyer@....

I thought this was still working after I loaded the latest Jaws 18 update.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Re: Email programs and windows 7

Mike Rogers
 

I use Becky email. It works fine with Windows 7.

********************************

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On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:59:51 -0700
"netbat66" <netbat66@...> wrote:

i use windows live mail. i don't like thunderbird at all.

-----Original Message----- From: brian albriton
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Email programs and windows 7



With the exceptions of Outlook and gmail, what email programs have you successfully used with windows 7?

All the best, Brian



Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...






Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Gudrun,
 
These are download links for the 2018 Beta version, or under the old numbering sequence this would be Jaws 19.  These are not for Jaws 18!  But, I've included the download links + what's new for the latest Jaws 18 update, which you can download & run the executable on your laptop.  The below JAWS 18 update links came out September 26.

Below are the direct download links for the latest J18.0.4321 update, & what's
new in this build.
 
32 Bit:
 
 
64 Bit:
 
 
What's new:
 
Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.4321 (September 2017)
 
The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 July 2017
release and the September 2017 update.
 
Microsoft Edge Support (must be enabled in Settings Center)
 
This update introduces support for Edge, the latest web browser from
Microsoft included in Windows 10. To use JAWS with Edge, you must be running
the Windows
10 Creators update (version 1703) or later. While there are still several
JAWS features that are not available in Edge such as selecting and copying
using
the Virtual Cursor, PlaceMarkers, Smart Navigation, Flexible Web, and
domain-specific settings, we have made the overall experience of navigating
pages
in Edge using both speech and braille as similar as possible to working in
Internet Explorer, Chrome, or Firefox. As we continue to work with Microsoft
to improve the Edge experience, future JAWS updates will include greater
functionality. Edge support is also available in the new JAWS 2018.
 
Edge support is turned off by default in JAWS 18. This is because support
for Microsoft Edge depends on some emerging technologies, which we continue
to
fine-tune in close collaboration with Microsoft. You can turn on Edge
support through Settings Center by doing the following:
 
list of 6 items
1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the JAWS default settings.
3. In the Search edit box, type "edge browser" without the quotes.
4. Press DOWN ARROW to move to "Microsoft Edge Browser Support" in the
filtered search results in the tree view.
5. Press SPACEBAR to toggle this option.
6. Press ENTER to save your change and close Settings Center, and then quit
and restart JAWS.
list end
 
Once JAWS is restarted, you will be able to use JAWS to access web pages in
Edge. If you encounter any unusual issues after enabling Edge support, you
can go back into Settings Center as described above and disable it. If you
do this, please let our Tech Support team know so the issue can be
investigated.
 
The Virtual Cursor is used to read pages in Edge just like in other
browsers. You can use the standard reading commands as well as most of the
Navigation
Quick Keys to navigate through pages. Currently, there are a few Navigation
Quick Keys that are not yet supported in Edge, however the most used
commands;
moving by headings, paragraphs, forms, tables, lists, graphics, and regions,
are available. More Navigation Quick Keys will be supported in future
updates.
 
By default, JAWS uses Semi-auto Forms Mode in Edge, which turns on Forms
Mode automatically only when you move to a form control using TAB or
SHIFT+TAB.
Due to the way Edge displays pages, Auto Forms Mode is not available as it
is possible to have multiple controls on a single line. You will need to
press
ENTER to turn on Forms Mode if you use the ARROW keys to move to form
fields.
 
Other familiar JAWS features that are currently supported include:
 
list of 4 items
. Displaying a list of links, headings, or form controls by pressing
INSERT+F7, INSERT+F6, or INSERT+F5.
. Searching for text on the current page by pressing CTRL+F.
. Obtaining font information by pressing INSERT+F.
. The ability for JAWS to detect changes in the language used on a web page
and automatically switch to the appropriate voice if available.
list end
 
As you begin using Edge, one important item to note is that Edge is a modern
app with no menu bar that can be accessed using the ALT key. To access Edge
specific features, press TAB from the bottom of a page or SHIFT+TAB from the
top. Continue using TAB or SHIFT+TAB to move through the various controls
until you cycle back around to the content area. Alternatively, Edge offers
many of the same shortcut keys found in other browsers such as CTRL+T to
open
a new tab, CTRL+H for History, CTRL+I for Favorites, CTRL+J for Downloads,
and so on.
 
Other Changes
list of 16 items
. Resolved stability issues reported by multiple customers using JAWS with
Outlook 365.
. Addressed a reported issue with Audacity, a popular sound editor, where
the application would stop working when attempting to open an MP3 file with
JAWS
currently running.
. This update contains changes necessary to support Firefox version 57,
scheduled for release in the fourth quarter of 2017. Firefox users must
update
to JAWS 18.0.4321 to continue using this browser when it updates to version
57.
. Added the latest Brailliant BI display drivers from Humanware to support
their Brailliant BI14 braille display.
. Resolved a customer reported issue with the UPS Tracking Research It
lookup source not displaying any results.
. In Internet Explorer, addressed a customer reported issue with JAWS not
always reading the correct label on form controls when navigating using TAB.
. Resolved an issue where JAWS was not correctly loading settings for Office
applications when Office 365 was installed through the Windows Store.
. Addressed an issue with JAWS not reading the contents of a book in the
Kindle for PC app.
. In the latest version of Outlook 365, addressed issues with JAWS not
reading as expected when navigating in the list of suggestions that displays
when
typing a contact's name into a new message or calendar appointment.
. Resolved a customer reported issue where changes to voice profile settings
were not being honored for the DECTalk USB hardware synthesizer.
. Addressed an issue with both the DECTalk Express and DECTalk USB hardware
synthesizers where JAWS would unexpectedly close when performing a SayAll
from
a web browser.
. When running JAWS and ZoomText together in Windows 7, resolved an issue
where ZoomText's focus tracking was not working properly on the Secure
Desktop
or the Logon screen.
. JAWS visual tracking is now enabled by default when navigating Windows
HTML Help content such as the JAWS Help.
. A customer reported that JAWS was not working as expected with a
particular Java application. This issue has been resolved.
. Resolved a reported issue with the German version of JAWS not working as
expected after attempting to print or close a document in Word 2013.
. Fixed braille output issues with Hebrew.
list end
 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

Hello: Question: I am in the process of obtaining a laptop. Do I need to
install the JAWS 18 from disk, or can I simply install this update?



Gudrun


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 12:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

Howdy All,
 
Here are the download links & what's new for this Beta 2 2018.1710.1 update.
 
32 Bit:
 
http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171001VA453T/J2018.1710.1enu-x86.exe
 
64 Bit:
 
http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171001VA453T/J2018.1710.1enu-x64.exe
 

The following is a list of improvements made between the first Public Beta
and Public Beta 2. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are
included in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.
 
JAWS
list of 11 items
. If you are running a previous version of JAWS while installing 2018, JAWS
now speaks the progress bar which displays the percentage of the install
that is complete. The self-voicing feature of the installer also now
announces more progress information.
. Improved various installer messages including the messages confirming a
successful install or uninstall.
. When using the default voice contexts for the various cursors and you
press NUM PAD+MINUS to turn on the JAWS Cursor, resolved a customer reported
issue where "JAWS Cursor" was not being announced using the correct voice,
which uses a lower pitch.
. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS. These
enable French users to search BNFA or ÉOLE, two major French libraries for
the blind.
. When using JAWS Settings Center in Windows 10, resolved an issue where
JAWS was not announcing the current location in the tree view after
expanding a group, or the path to the currently selected item when pressing
INSERT+UP ARROW. In addition, when navigating the filter tree view of
results after performing a search, JAWS now announces the item followed by
its location.
. The What's New in JAWS DAISY book has been updated for JAWS 2018. To get
the new book, select Training from the JAWS Help menu to open the JAWS Basic
Training Table of Contents in FSReader, and then press ENTER on the What's
New in JAWS link.
. In response to a customer request, JAWS now includes version 3.3 of the
Liblouis braille translator.
. Updated the control names in Settings Center for the Virtual Cursor
verbosity options to say, "Web Verbosity Levels" and "Configure Web
Verbosity Levels", to make them easier to find when doing a search.
. If the JAWS Laptop keyboard layout is active, resolved an issue where
pressing INSERT+SHIFT+1 through 0 was not working in Excel to define a
monitor cell. In addition, INSERT+SHIFT+T now works in Winamp to display
track information. In Laptop layout, both The CAPS LOCK and INSERT keys can
be used as the JAWS Key.
. Addressed issues with editing text files on remote systems using SSH.
. A customer using the Spanish version of JAWS reported several issues with
various help and application messages. These have been resolved.
list end
 
Convenient OCR
list of 4 items
. In response to customer feedback, improved the quality of the OCR results
when using INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, F to recognize an image file or
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to recognize a PDF document in Adobe Reader.
. Addressed reports where JAWS 2018 would not install on certain 64-bit
computers. In these cases, the installation process was not able to install
the Convenient OCR components. This is now fixed.
. In response to customer feedback, the camera light frequency correction is
now saved when changed through the Advanced dialog box located in the Camera
and Scanner Recognition dialog box.
. JAWS now plays a progress sound when recognizing large PDF documents.
list end
 
Google Docs
list of 2 items
. You can now press CTRL+APOSTROPHE or CTRL+SEMICOLON in Google Docs to move
to the next or previous misspelled word in a document.
. When navigating a Google Docs table in Chrome using JAWS table reading
commands (ALT+CTRL+ARROW keys, addressed an issue where JAWS was double
speaking cell contents.
list end
 
Microsoft Office
list of 3 items
. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook
365 version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.
. When navigating time slots in the Outlook Calendar using Vocalizer
Expressive for speech, addressed a reported issue where JAWS was saying
"comma" before the time.
. When opening the Spell Checker for the first time after starting Word 365,
resolved an issue where JAWS was not automatically reading the misspelled
word and suggestion.
list end
 
Skype
list of 1 items
. Resolved an issue where both JAWS and Skype would stop working if the Call
Quality Feedback dialog box was displayed after ending a call.
list end
 
Web Browsers
list of 10 items
. JAWS 2018 contains changes necessary to support Firefox version 57,
scheduled for release in the fourth quarter of 2017.
. Improved overall JAWS performance with Edge. In particular, multiple
reports where Edge would unexpectedly stop working on various web pages or
become less responsive after opening multiple pages were addressed.
. When INSERT+A is pressed to read the web page address in Firefox or
Chrome, addressed a customer reported issue where this information was not
being displayed in braille if flash message verbosity was set to Advanced.
. Addressed an issue with JAWS double speaking live region updates in Google
Chrome.
. Resolved an issue where Internet Explorer would sometimes close
unexpectedly when right clicking on various toolbar items using the mouse.
. Resolved a reported issue with JAWS not reading as expected when
encountering form controls inside an ARIA grid.
. You can now use the U and SHIFT+U Navigation Quick Keys in Edge to move by
links. Note that in Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome, these commands
only move to the next or previous unvisited link. However, since Edge
currently does not indicate when a link has been visited, U and SHIFT+U will
move to all links in this browser.
. If the mouse is used to select text on a web page, resolved an issue where
pressing CTRL+C was not working as expected to copy the selected text.
. Addressed intermittent issues where domain specific settings were not
always loading as expected.
. Resolved an issue with Chrome where braille was not working as expected
when typing and navigating in certain edit fields.
list end
 
Windows Mail
list of 2 items
. When opening an email message, resolved a customer reported issue where
JAWS was reading the contents of the previous message, even if it had been
closed or deleted.
. When using JAWS table reading commands to navigate a table inserted into a
new message, resolved an issue with JAWS not reading as expected.
list end
 
Windows 10
list of 1 items
. Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the selected item when
navigating between time picker controls.
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

Gudrun Brunot
 

Hello: Question: I am in the process of obtaining a laptop. Do I need to
install the JAWS 18 from disk, or can I simply install this update?



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 12:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

Howdy All,

Here are the download links & what's new for this Beta 2 2018.1710.1 update.

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171001VA453T/J2018.1710.1enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171001VA453T/J2018.1710.1enu-x64.exe


The following is a list of improvements made between the first Public Beta
and Public Beta 2. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are
included in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.

JAWS
list of 11 items
• If you are running a previous version of JAWS while installing 2018, JAWS
now speaks the progress bar which displays the percentage of the install
that is complete. The self-voicing feature of the installer also now
announces more progress information.
• Improved various installer messages including the messages confirming a
successful install or uninstall.
• When using the default voice contexts for the various cursors and you
press NUM PAD+MINUS to turn on the JAWS Cursor, resolved a customer reported
issue where "JAWS Cursor" was not being announced using the correct voice,
which uses a lower pitch.
• Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS. These
enable French users to search BNFA or ÉOLE, two major French libraries for
the blind.
• When using JAWS Settings Center in Windows 10, resolved an issue where
JAWS was not announcing the current location in the tree view after
expanding a group, or the path to the currently selected item when pressing
INSERT+UP ARROW. In addition, when navigating the filter tree view of
results after performing a search, JAWS now announces the item followed by
its location.
• The What's New in JAWS DAISY book has been updated for JAWS 2018. To get
the new book, select Training from the JAWS Help menu to open the JAWS Basic
Training Table of Contents in FSReader, and then press ENTER on the What's
New in JAWS link.
• In response to a customer request, JAWS now includes version 3.3 of the
Liblouis braille translator.
• Updated the control names in Settings Center for the Virtual Cursor
verbosity options to say, "Web Verbosity Levels" and "Configure Web
Verbosity Levels", to make them easier to find when doing a search.
• If the JAWS Laptop keyboard layout is active, resolved an issue where
pressing INSERT+SHIFT+1 through 0 was not working in Excel to define a
monitor cell. In addition, INSERT+SHIFT+T now works in Winamp to display
track information. In Laptop layout, both The CAPS LOCK and INSERT keys can
be used as the JAWS Key.
• Addressed issues with editing text files on remote systems using SSH.
• A customer using the Spanish version of JAWS reported several issues with
various help and application messages. These have been resolved.
list end

Convenient OCR
list of 4 items
• In response to customer feedback, improved the quality of the OCR results
when using INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, F to recognize an image file or
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to recognize a PDF document in Adobe Reader.
• Addressed reports where JAWS 2018 would not install on certain 64-bit
computers. In these cases, the installation process was not able to install
the Convenient OCR components. This is now fixed.
• In response to customer feedback, the camera light frequency correction is
now saved when changed through the Advanced dialog box located in the Camera
and Scanner Recognition dialog box.
• JAWS now plays a progress sound when recognizing large PDF documents.
list end

Google Docs
list of 2 items
• You can now press CTRL+APOSTROPHE or CTRL+SEMICOLON in Google Docs to move
to the next or previous misspelled word in a document.
• When navigating a Google Docs table in Chrome using JAWS table reading
commands (ALT+CTRL+ARROW keys, addressed an issue where JAWS was double
speaking cell contents.
list end

Microsoft Office
list of 3 items
• Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook
365 version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.
• When navigating time slots in the Outlook Calendar using Vocalizer
Expressive for speech, addressed a reported issue where JAWS was saying
"comma" before the time.
• When opening the Spell Checker for the first time after starting Word 365,
resolved an issue where JAWS was not automatically reading the misspelled
word and suggestion.
list end

Skype
list of 1 items
• Resolved an issue where both JAWS and Skype would stop working if the Call
Quality Feedback dialog box was displayed after ending a call.
list end

Web Browsers
list of 10 items
• JAWS 2018 contains changes necessary to support Firefox version 57,
scheduled for release in the fourth quarter of 2017.
• Improved overall JAWS performance with Edge. In particular, multiple
reports where Edge would unexpectedly stop working on various web pages or
become less responsive after opening multiple pages were addressed.
• When INSERT+A is pressed to read the web page address in Firefox or
Chrome, addressed a customer reported issue where this information was not
being displayed in braille if flash message verbosity was set to Advanced.
• Addressed an issue with JAWS double speaking live region updates in Google
Chrome.
• Resolved an issue where Internet Explorer would sometimes close
unexpectedly when right clicking on various toolbar items using the mouse.
• Resolved a reported issue with JAWS not reading as expected when
encountering form controls inside an ARIA grid.
• You can now use the U and SHIFT+U Navigation Quick Keys in Edge to move by
links. Note that in Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome, these commands
only move to the next or previous unvisited link. However, since Edge
currently does not indicate when a link has been visited, U and SHIFT+U will
move to all links in this browser.
• If the mouse is used to select text on a web page, resolved an issue where
pressing CTRL+C was not working as expected to copy the selected text.
• Addressed intermittent issues where domain specific settings were not
always loading as expected.
• Resolved an issue with Chrome where braille was not working as expected
when typing and navigating in certain edit fields.
list end

Windows Mail
list of 2 items
• When opening an email message, resolved a customer reported issue where
JAWS was reading the contents of the previous message, even if it had been
closed or deleted.
• When using JAWS table reading commands to navigate a table inserted into a
new message, resolved an issue with JAWS not reading as expected.
list end

Windows 10
list of 1 items
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the selected item when
navigating between time picker controls.
list end

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
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Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Tim Ford
 

Hello Jonas,

Thank you very much for mentioning that. I had assumed that all USB sound cards would be stereo. Is there something more than that I should look for in the specifications? Any particular recommended USB sound cards?

I did try JAWS 2018 BETA, but it did not change the JAWS sound, as most of you predicted. I did want to try 2018 since I assume it would give better overall performance with web pages that use the latest and greatest visual designs. However, I found that 2018 was terrible with my Office 2010 programs, and somehow also affected my JAWS 17, which suddenly was doing a lot of sluggish things, going silent for a good minute or so, and common operations, such as spellcheck, were real problems in Outlook. I removed JAWS 2018, and my problems cleared up; JAWS 17 is back to what qualifies by today's standards as working well.

So USB sound card shopping I will go, after I receive whatever guidance this great group can provide!

Sincerely,
Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Hey, Tim Ford!
If you get a new sound card I recommend one that will support Stereo Mix or what you hear is what you get!


Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

I know you said you disabled effects, but it totally sounds to me like something is still enabled which causes this.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Thanks for all the feedback so far. I am already using headphones. What has been suggested to me is to try an external USB sound card. There are other JAWS performance issues such as strange lags, pops, clicks, and generally not fun. Not terrible, but with all the time I spend on the computer, it is worth it to me to invest even more money, such as to buy the sound card.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good systems. I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or 3.5mm audio jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the problem remains when using a different output. It may simply be that the built-in speakers will not give good enough results to use at the speed you would like.

On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced
group of JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed
96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice
degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter
or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point
where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give
the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This
really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook,
and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand
laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more
RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not
exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest
update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated
the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.
No improvement. By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle
those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned
I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to
walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they
described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to
slow it down, and the problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I
had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while
acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the
most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would
have the best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time
they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version
17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost
reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my
previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will
try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a
recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
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How do
you spend it?

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Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Jonas Voll
 

Hey, Tim Ford!
If you get a new sound card I recommend one that will support Stereo Mix or what you hear is what you get!


Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

I know you said you disabled effects, but it totally sounds to me like something is still enabled which causes this.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Thanks for all the feedback so far. I am already using headphones. What has been suggested to me is to try an external USB sound card. There are other JAWS performance issues such as strange lags, pops, clicks, and generally not fun. Not terrible, but with all the time I spend on the computer, it is worth it to me to invest even more money, such as to buy the sound card.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good systems. I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or 3.5mm audio jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the problem remains when using a different output. It may simply be that the built-in speakers will not give good enough results to use at the speed you would like.

On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced
group of JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed
96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice
degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter
or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point
where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give
the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This
really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook,
and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand
laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more
RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not
exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest
update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated
the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.
No improvement. By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle
those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned
I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to
walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they
described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to
slow it down, and the problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I
had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while
acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the
most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would
have the best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time
they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version
17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost
reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my
previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will
try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a
recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...




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Re: refreshing the screen

netbat66
 

it depends on which key you are useing for the jaws key.
insert or capslock.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: refreshing the screen

I tried that and nothing happened for me. At least turning virtual mode
off and on brought me back to the top of the message.

Carol



On 10/5/2017 9:11 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
The Key combo is insert escape. Someone who was a former Window Eyes user sent me the info.

On 10/4/2017 6:45 PM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
I don't know if this is what you want, but you might try turning off and on the virtual cursor with insert-z toggle.

Carol

On 10/4/2017 8:22 PM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Is there a way to refresh the screen with Jaws? The reason I ask, after reading a message in TB I'll hear the first line of the previous message. Thanks



I tried that combo and nothing happened.






Re: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

Jonas Voll
 

Can anyone tell me about this one?

• In response to customer feedback, the camera light frequency correction is now saved when changed through the Advanced dialog box located in the Camera
and Scanner Recognition dialog box.
• JAWS now plays a progress sound when recognizing large PDF documents.

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 2:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Beta 2 Update Download Links + What's New

 

Howdy All,

 

Here are the download links & what's new for this Beta 2 2018.1710.1 update.

 

32 Bit:

 

 

64 Bit:

 

 


The following is a list of improvements made between the first Public Beta and Public Beta 2. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are included
in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.

 

JAWS
list of 11 items
• If you are running a previous version of JAWS while installing 2018, JAWS now speaks the progress bar which displays the percentage of the install that
is complete. The self-voicing feature of the installer also now announces more progress information.
• Improved various installer messages including the messages confirming a successful install or uninstall.
• When using the default voice contexts for the various cursors and you press NUM PAD+MINUS to turn on the JAWS Cursor, resolved a customer reported issue
where "JAWS Cursor" was not being announced using the correct voice, which uses a lower pitch.
• Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS. These enable French users to search BNFA or ÉOLE, two major French libraries for
the blind.
• When using JAWS Settings Center in Windows 10, resolved an issue where JAWS was not announcing the current location in the tree view after expanding
a group, or the path to the currently selected item when pressing INSERT+UP ARROW. In addition, when navigating the filter tree view of results after performing
a search, JAWS now announces the item followed by its location.
• The What's New in JAWS DAISY book has been updated for JAWS 2018. To get the new book, select Training from the JAWS Help menu to open the JAWS Basic
Training Table of Contents in FSReader, and then press ENTER on the What's New in JAWS link.
• In response to a customer request, JAWS now includes version 3.3 of the Liblouis braille translator.
• Updated the control names in Settings Center for the Virtual Cursor verbosity options to say, "Web Verbosity Levels" and "Configure Web Verbosity Levels",
to make them easier to find when doing a search.
• If the JAWS Laptop keyboard layout is active, resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+SHIFT+1 through 0 was not working in Excel to define a monitor
cell. In addition, INSERT+SHIFT+T now works in Winamp to display track information. In Laptop layout, both The CAPS LOCK and INSERT keys can be used as
the JAWS Key.
• Addressed issues with editing text files on remote systems using SSH.
• A customer using the Spanish version of JAWS reported several issues with various help and application messages. These have been resolved.
list end

 

Convenient OCR
list of 4 items
• In response to customer feedback, improved the quality of the OCR results when using INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, F to recognize an image file or INSERT+SPACEBAR,
O, D to recognize a PDF document in Adobe Reader.
• Addressed reports where JAWS 2018 would not install on certain 64-bit computers. In these cases, the installation process was not able to install the
Convenient OCR components. This is now fixed.
• In response to customer feedback, the camera light frequency correction is now saved when changed through the Advanced dialog box located in the Camera
and Scanner Recognition dialog box.
• JAWS now plays a progress sound when recognizing large PDF documents.
list end

 

Google Docs
list of 2 items
• You can now press CTRL+APOSTROPHE or CTRL+SEMICOLON in Google Docs to move to the next or previous misspelled word in a document.
• When navigating a Google Docs table in Chrome using JAWS table reading commands (ALT+CTRL+ARROW keys, addressed an issue where JAWS was double speaking
cell contents.
list end

 

Microsoft Office
list of 3 items
• Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365 updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses when
typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365 version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.
• When navigating time slots in the Outlook Calendar using Vocalizer Expressive for speech, addressed a reported issue where JAWS was saying "comma" before
the time.
• When opening the Spell Checker for the first time after starting Word 365, resolved an issue where JAWS was not automatically reading the misspelled
word and suggestion.
list end

 

Skype
list of 1 items
• Resolved an issue where both JAWS and Skype would stop working if the Call Quality Feedback dialog box was displayed after ending a call.
list end

 

Web Browsers
list of 10 items
• JAWS 2018 contains changes necessary to support Firefox version 57, scheduled for release in the fourth quarter of 2017.
• Improved overall JAWS performance with Edge. In particular, multiple reports where Edge would unexpectedly stop working on various web pages or become
less responsive after opening multiple pages were addressed.
• When INSERT+A is pressed to read the web page address in Firefox or Chrome, addressed a customer reported issue where this information was not being
displayed in braille if flash message verbosity was set to Advanced.
• Addressed an issue with JAWS double speaking live region updates in Google Chrome.
• Resolved an issue where Internet Explorer would sometimes close unexpectedly when right clicking on various toolbar items using the mouse.
• Resolved a reported issue with JAWS not reading as expected when encountering form controls inside an ARIA grid.
• You can now use the U and SHIFT+U Navigation Quick Keys in Edge to move by links. Note that in Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome, these commands
only move to the next or previous unvisited link. However, since Edge currently does not indicate when a link has been visited, U and SHIFT+U will move
to all links in this browser.
• If the mouse is used to select text on a web page, resolved an issue where pressing CTRL+C was not working as expected to copy the selected text.
• Addressed intermittent issues where domain specific settings were not always loading as expected.
• Resolved an issue with Chrome where braille was not working as expected when typing and navigating in certain edit fields.
list end

 

Windows Mail
list of 2 items
• When opening an email message, resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS was reading the contents of the previous message, even if it had been closed
or deleted.
• When using JAWS table reading commands to navigate a table inserted into a new message, resolved an issue with JAWS not reading as expected.
list end

 

Windows 10
list of 1 items
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the selected item when navigating between time picker controls.
list end

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Re: refreshing the screen

Carol Smith
 

I tried that and nothing happened for me. At least turning virtual mode off and on brought me back to the top of the message.

Carol

On 10/5/2017 9:11 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
The Key combo is insert escape. Someone who was a former Window Eyes user sent me the info.

On 10/4/2017 6:45 PM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
I don't know if this is what you want, but you might try turning off and on the virtual cursor with insert-z toggle.

Carol

On 10/4/2017 8:22 PM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Is there a way to refresh the screen with Jaws? The reason I ask, after reading a message in TB I'll hear the first line of the previous message. Thanks



I tried that combo and nothing happened.




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