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Verifacation codes.

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

I am running into more and more captpcha codes that dont actually play the audio. The only help I have found is "make sure your audio is turned up and not muted".

Any one else having his issue?


Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Richard B. McDonald
 

Thanks Bill!

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

What you do is the following.

1. Open Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus T for Tools.
3. Press O for Options.
4. Tab until you hear, Find an Option.
5. In the edit box, type Update.
6. Tab until you hear how Firefox is currently updating. It will probably
say, Automatically Install Updates.
7. Down Arrow to, Never Check For Updates. It will say (not recommended) 8.
Tab to, Use a background service to Install Updates, and make sure this is
unchecked.
9. Press CONTROL plus W to close the Options window.

Firefox will now no longer update itself.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 11:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Hi!

According to the below, new versions of Firefox won't work with older
versions of JFW. So, how do you tell Firefox *not* to update itself?

Thanks,
Richard

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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:24 AM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

Firefox 57 also named "quantum" is getting a new rendering engine which
replaces Gecko. It is supposed to be twice as fast.
Apparently this will also have screen reader implications I assume
especially where they do not use the accessibility API and instead access
the page directly... Time will tell but when changing engines, it will not
surprise me to see a lot of stuff break.
Travis


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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 PM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

According to the latest JAWS release notes, most of JAWS versions will stop
working with Firefox 57 and newer. I had not seen any reference to this
before. Can anybody provide details? Are there any scripting implications
for this? I just started getting a Get*XML set of routines working with an
Internet application I am forced to deal with on a daily basis.
TIA

Jonathan


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Re: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

Carol Smith
 

Hi Ken,

Is your problem resolved with volume?  If not, while in your program with the low volume, press insert plus r and type in "sndvol: (without the quotes) and press enter.  Tab through your settings that are listed.  For each program that is open, there will be a list of available volume levels and the screen reader should read each level and the program it is for.  As you up arrow through the list that matches the quiet program, the volume level should increase. 

Carol


On 10/1/2017 12:14 PM, Dave... wrote:
Ken,
 
This sounds like a question for a list with iPhone users.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 08:43
Subject: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

Hi listers ken here. I noticed my system sounds and even pandora were both extremely soft. I tested to make sure pandor’s volume was maxed and still very low. then when jaws 40 minute mode was about to expire and I shut it down to switch to NVDA suddenly pandora sounded right.  did I turn on audio ducking by accident and how do I shut that off in settings center? is it a toggle pretty sure butterfingers ken did it by accident. 


Re: repeating my question.

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Someone already answered this. But I will tell you. :)
Insert + space +d. This is the toggle for audio ducking. Hope this helps.
Yeah the iphone comment was strange. I figured he posted to the wrong message.

On 10/1/2017 11:25 AM, ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:
not sure but can’t seem to find the field online to reply to my last but will repeat it. not sure why someone thought this was for an iphone list since you don’t use jaws or NVDA on an Iphone. so will repeat it. Pandora and my windows 10 system sounds seem to be ducking when jaws runs. pandora was very very low until I shut jaws down to switch to NVDA at the end of the 40 minute demo time.  did I switch something on by accident. how do I turn it off in jaws. 



Re: repeating my question.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Someone posted the following:

 

Press JAWS key plus Space Bar, followed by D.

 

If it says:

Duck Other Audio, follow the same procedure again until it says,

Do Not Duck Other Audio.

 

If it says,

Do Not Duck Other Audio, Audio Ducking is off.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ken lawrence via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: repeating my question.

 

not sure but can’t seem to find the field online to reply to my last but will repeat it. not sure why someone thought this was for an iphone list since you don’t use jaws or NVDA on an Iphone. so will repeat it. Pandora and my windows 10 system sounds seem to be ducking when jaws runs. pandora was very very low until I shut jaws down to switch to NVDA at the end of the 40 minute demo time.  did I switch something on by accident. how do I turn it off in jaws. 


Re: repeating my question.

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Somebody already replied and said what you need to do: use the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Space bar followed by “d”.

If Jaws says “Do not duck other audio” then audio ducking was on and for me it does indeed result in a noticeable drop in sound volume as the feature is not working correctly.

 

If I do this

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ken lawrence via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: repeating my question.

 

not sure but can’t seem to find the field online to reply to my last but will repeat it. not sure why someone thought this was for an iphone list since you don’t use jaws or NVDA on an Iphone. so will repeat it. Pandora and my windows 10 system sounds seem to be ducking when jaws runs. pandora was very very low until I shut jaws down to switch to NVDA at the end of the 40 minute demo time.  did I switch something on by accident. how do I turn it off in jaws. 


repeating my question.

ken lawrence
 

not sure but can’t seem to find the field online to reply to my last but will repeat it. not sure why someone thought this was for an iphone list since you don’t use jaws or NVDA on an Iphone. so will repeat it. Pandora and my windows 10 system sounds seem to be ducking when jaws runs. pandora was very very low until I shut jaws down to switch to NVDA at the end of the 40 minute demo time.  did I switch something on by accident. how do I turn it off in jaws. 


Re: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

Press Insert Space, then D.  If it says Duck Other Audio, then it was off.  You want Do Not Duck Other Audio.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ken lawrence via Groups.Io
Sent: 01 October 2017 16:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

 

Hi listers ken here. I noticed my system sounds and even pandora were both extremely soft. I tested to make sure pandor’s volume was maxed and still very low. then when jaws 40 minute mode was about to expire and I shut it down to switch to NVDA suddenly pandora sounded right.  did I turn on audio ducking by accident and how do I shut that off in settings center? is it a toggle pretty sure butterfingers ken did it by accident. 


Re: JAWS PROBLEM

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

Yes, turn off the virtual ribbon.  It seems to screw with Office shortcut keys.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gery Gaubert
Sent: 28 September 2017 19:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS PROBLEM

 

I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version 18 on 2 computers.  On my work computer in office 2013 I press alt 

V

A

B

 

I can then change the way messages are sorted.  I get the choices  date, from, to etc.

On my home computer with either version of jaws this does not work.  I can press alt, then v, but can’t sort by name or date.  Any ideas?


Re: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

Dave...
 


You caught me, there. The Audio Ducking threw me off.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 09:39
Subject: Re: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

Hi, Dave. Why would it be an iPhone issue if they are using JAWS?

 

Hmmmmm!

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

 

Ken,

 

This sounds like a question for a list with iPhone users.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 08:43

Subject: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

 

Hi listers ken here. I noticed my system sounds and even pandora were both extremely soft. I tested to make sure pandor’s volume was maxed and still very low. then when jaws 40 minute mode was about to expire and I shut it down to switch to NVDA suddenly pandora sounded right.  did I turn on audio ducking by accident and how do I shut that off in settings center? is it a toggle pretty sure butterfingers ken did it by accident. 


Re: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Dave. Why would it be an iPhone issue if they are using JAWS?

 

Hmmmmm!

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

 

Ken,

 

This sounds like a question for a list with iPhone users.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 08:43

Subject: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

 

Hi listers ken here. I noticed my system sounds and even pandora were both extremely soft. I tested to make sure pandor’s volume was maxed and still very low. then when jaws 40 minute mode was about to expire and I shut it down to switch to NVDA suddenly pandora sounded right.  did I turn on audio ducking by accident and how do I shut that off in settings center? is it a toggle pretty sure butterfingers ken did it by accident. 


Re: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

Dave...
 


Ken,
 
This sounds like a question for a list with iPhone users.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 08:43
Subject: did butterfingers ken turn something on?

Hi listers ken here. I noticed my system sounds and even pandora were both extremely soft. I tested to make sure pandor’s volume was maxed and still very low. then when jaws 40 minute mode was about to expire and I shut it down to switch to NVDA suddenly pandora sounded right.  did I turn on audio ducking by accident and how do I shut that off in settings center? is it a toggle pretty sure butterfingers ken did it by accident. 


did butterfingers ken turn something on?

ken lawrence
 

Hi listers ken here. I noticed my system sounds and even pandora were both extremely soft. I tested to make sure pandor’s volume was maxed and still very low. then when jaws 40 minute mode was about to expire and I shut it down to switch to NVDA suddenly pandora sounded right.  did I turn on audio ducking by accident and how do I shut that off in settings center? is it a toggle pretty sure butterfingers ken did it by accident. 


Re: Revisions not showing up in virtual viewer

Jason White
 

Are you sure that Track Changes was enabled in the document when the revisions were made? If so, my only suggestion (that might or might not help) would be a JAWS upgrade.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 3:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Revisions not showing up in virtual viewer

Hi Everyone,

The virtual viewer function - windows+; is the fastest way to view the list of revisions in a document.
However, it doesn't always work, in that JAWS often says that there are no revisions even when it is clear that some revisions have been made to a document.

Has anyone found a solution to this problem?
I use JAWS 16, Win 10, Office 16.
Best,
Rahul


Re: Jaws 18 and Win7 64bit

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Can you explain what glitches you encounter? Generally speaking one should always have the latest version as more often than not it has improvements over others earlier versions which of course is the whole point of updates. For example, if you wanted to use Firefox and don’t want to turn off updates to stick with pre-57 versions which ultimately won’t have security updates and such then you need the latest version.

As I said, if you could point out what glitches you encounter it would help in giving an answer.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 12:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 18 and Win7 64bit

 

Heya folks,

 

What’s the best version of Jaws 18 that works great with Windows 7 64bit?

Just noticed latest Jaws 18 has a couple of glitches.

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 


good server mailling lists

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. Tried googling for any good blind accessible server or admin lists or groups.

Thanks.


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Rahul Bajaj
 

This works. Thanks for the solution.

On 30/09/2017, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:
except in my case, JAWS 16 does not announce the name of the document.
all it says is "document" when I press the control+tab.

I wonder if J18 does the same?
-------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@live.ca]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 30, 2017 12:43 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Mario is correct, Control+Tab which for me also works well with multiple
tabs in IE or Chrome. Here is the short description when you turn Jaws
key describer on:

Control+Tab
Brings the next Document Window into focus and says the window that has
just gained focus.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Rahul, I found that after opening both PDF docs in Reader DC, pressing
control+tab switches from doc a to doc b, to doc a, etc. JAWS may not
announce it, but pressing the up arrow tells me what doc it is, and I
assume insert+t will reflect which doc you've switched to.
and back
hth
-------- Original Message --------
From: Rahul Bajaj [mailto:rahul.bajaj1038@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 30, 2017 5:19 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Hi Everyone,

Recently, I have been facing a strange problem. I am unable to read
multiple PDF documents at one time which is often what I am required to
do for work. Basically, imagine that I have opened document A in Adobe
Reader and then open document b. document a is just not accessible when
I press alt-tab to go from one document to the other.
In order to view document a, I have to close document b.
Does anyone have any ideas as to why this could be happening and what I
may be able to do to fix this?

Best,
Rahul



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Revisions not showing up in virtual viewer

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi Everyone,

The virtual viewer function - windows+; is the fastest way to view
the list of revisions in a document.
However, it doesn't always work, in that JAWS often says that there
are no revisions even when it is clear that some revisions have been
made to a document.

Has anyone found a solution to this problem?
I use JAWS 16, Win 10, Office 16.
Best,
Rahul


Jaws 18 and Win7 64bit

Jim L
 

Heya folks,

 

What’s the best version of Jaws 18 that works great with Windows 7 64bit?

Just noticed latest Jaws 18 has a couple of glitches.

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 


More Office help docs.

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

This very useful page is devoted to 'How-To' tutorials and best practices documents for both using Microsoft Office for Windows if you are using adaptive technology and how to create accessible documents:
http://bit.ly/2wlZwJo