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Re: routing the cursor in gmail

Mario
 

open the email with the attachment.
press alt, m, h.
you should find the filename of the attachment.
press right arrow and down arrow to save as, and press enter.
the rest is standard procedure.

you can also take a look as to what other things you can do with an
attachment besides saving it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Patrick Johnson [mailto:patrickjohnson1015@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, Sep 29, 2017 11:32 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: routing the cursor in gmail

Group,

Using latest version of JAWS on a Win 10 machine and reading my gmail
messages with the Firefox browser. A challenge I am having is being
able to save attachments within messages. Using Window Eyes I could
go to the attachment and <shift>-F10 and get an option to save link
as. When I try this using JAWS I get options to save the background.
I am guessing I need to route the cursors to where I am at.

I have tried
* <insert>- "+" to activate the virtual cursor and still do not get
the correct choice
* Also tried <insert>- "-" and get an error message.

I think this is the same issue when I try and log into m.facebook.com
and can not activate the login button.

Thanks,

Patrick



.


Re: routing the cursor in gmail

Carol Smith
 

One difference that I have noticed is that clicking on a link as in Window-Eyes doees not properly work. The Jaws focus is slightly different. If you have an actual link, instead of placing your cursor on it, move up one line and then tab to the link. Jaws will then see it as a link and you can click whichever method you would normally use. Hope this helps.

Carol

On 9/29/2017 11:32 AM, Patrick Johnson wrote:
Group,

Using latest version of JAWS on a Win 10 machine and reading my gmail
messages with the Firefox browser. A challenge I am having is being
able to save attachments within messages. Using Window Eyes I could
go to the attachment and <shift>-F10 and get an option to save link
as. When I try this using JAWS I get options to save the background.
I am guessing I need to route the cursors to where I am at.

I have tried
* <insert>- "+" to activate the virtual cursor and still do not get
the correct choice
* Also tried <insert>- "-" and get an error message.

I think this is the same issue when I try and log into m.facebook.com
and can not activate the login button.

Thanks,

Patrick



routing the cursor in gmail

Patrick Johnson
 

Group,

Using latest version of JAWS on a Win 10 machine and reading my gmail
messages with the Firefox browser. A challenge I am having is being
able to save attachments within messages. Using Window Eyes I could
go to the attachment and <shift>-F10 and get an option to save link
as. When I try this using JAWS I get options to save the background.
I am guessing I need to route the cursors to where I am at.

I have tried
* <insert>- "+" to activate the virtual cursor and still do not get
the correct choice
* Also tried <insert>- "-" and get an error message.

I think this is the same issue when I try and log into m.facebook.com
and can not activate the login button.

Thanks,

Patrick


Re: Background Colour in Outlook 2016

Marianne Denning
 

Mike, I apologize. Here it is. The default is white even though JAWS says something different. To change the color you need to begin typing then alt p for options and then find background. There is a key stroke for that too but I can't remember what it is.

--
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Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: How to remove pictures embedded into word document

Bob Hicks
 

My bad.  Thanks for the info!

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to remove pictures embedded into word document

 

Bob, 

          The spelling is caret for the character, not carrot (like the vegetable), although they are homonyms.   It is also known as the circumflex and, less frequently, as the chevron.

          Not all that much different than '*' being called the asterisk or the star or, these days, the '#' going from being known as the pound sign or number sign to the hashtag character.
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Re: Background Colour in Outlook 2016

Mario
 

I wish VFO/FS would get JAWS to correctly identify colors.
it's about time it gets fixed, no?

-------- Original Message --------
From: mike mcglashon [mailto:michael.mcglashon@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, Sep 29, 2017 9:26 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Background Colour in Outlook 2016

is that the same command for Microsoft word two regarding the colors?

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PH: 618-783-9331
Email: michael.mcglashon@comcast.net


On Sep 29, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Marianne Denning <marianne@denningweb.com>
wrote:

I really messed up with that dictation. JAWS is lying. Mine does the
same thing. I have asked people and the print is not black. The command
to get into your colors is alt g then pc.

--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: How to remove pictures embedded into word document

 

Bob, 

          The spelling is caret for the character, not carrot (like the vegetable), although they are homonyms.   It is also known as the circumflex and, less frequently, as the chevron.

          Not all that much different than '*' being called the asterisk or the star or, these days, the '#' going from being known as the pound sign or number sign to the hashtag character.
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

 
If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker


Re: How to remove pictures embedded into word document

Bob Hicks
 

Hey Brian.  I thought the shift of the #row 6 was called a “carrot”?  Do we have different names for the same key stroke?  tia

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to remove pictures embedded into word document

 

The caret/circumflex is SHIFT+6 on the regular keyboard of every computer keyboard I've used since, well, forever.

--
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If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker


Re: Background Colour in Outlook 2016

mike mcglashon
 

is that the same command for Microsoft word two regarding the colors?

contact information
Mike McGlashon
PH: 618-783-9331
Email: michael.mcglashon@...


On Sep 29, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Marianne Denning <marianne@...> wrote:

I really messed up with that dictation. JAWS is lying. Mine does the same thing. I have asked people and the print is not black. The command to get into your colors is alt g then pc.

--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: Background Colour in Outlook 2016

Marianne Denning
 

I really messed up with that dictation. JAWS is lying. Mine does the same thing. I have asked people and the print is not black. The command to get into your colors is alt g then pc.

--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


itunes question

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi using the altest itunes, and wanted to subscribe to a podcast nab afl trade radio, subscribed, but did not want to download all the episodes. How to enable this. Thanks.


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Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Do you have audio ducking on by any chance? If so turn it off

On 9/28/2017 1:05 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

 

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced group of JAWS users is as follows.

 

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed 96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc.  This really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook, and I do a lot of writing and editing!

 

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not exist.  I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest update to Windows 10.. 

 

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.  I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.  No improvement.  By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

 

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.  Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to slow it down, and the problem disappears.  Ironically, it acts as if I had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

 

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

 

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would have the best chance of working for my purposes?

 

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18.  At least this time they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version 17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018.  I would, for cost reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my previous computers!  If trying other voices does not work, then I will try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

 

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated.  If you think I should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

Tim Ford



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Re: jaws key describer.

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

The odds of you stumbleing across this command if it even exist useing the insert + 1 help are very low. Just call VFO and ask them. I honestly dont think this is an option with Jaws but VFO will know for sure. :) :)

On 9/28/2017 11:31 AM, netbat66 wrote:
you may not know this. but when the key describer on, if you press the key combonations twice jaws will give you even more help for the keys you press.

-----Original Message----- From: Bill White
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi, Carol. By turning on JAWS help, I believe he means the keystroke:
JAWS key plus the number one under the function keys.

This causes JAWS to tell you what a key or key combination does in JAWS.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hello Jonas,

What do you mean by turning on Jaws help? Thanks.

CAROL


On 9/28/2017 7:57 AM, Jonas Voll wrote:
I think you will need to use one of the other Jaws Cursors!
I will recommend you turn on your Jaws help and play with this!


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

I think its alt-shift and down/up/lwft/right arrow keys. It goes by 2 pixels by default if I remember correctly.

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:13:47 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to move the mouse pointer by pixels.
My brother has a web site where he must route the mouse to a certain
letter on the screen and then navigate 20 pixels upward in order to
click on a specific point on the screen.

example:

the word "name" is in position 340 (horizontal) and 444 (vertical)

The letter "e" in "name" is at position 356, 444

He needs to move the mouse from the e to position 356, 424 in order to
click the invisible button.

Is there a way he can do this with Jaws? He is running Win10 and is
still learning how to get around with Jaws. Thanks for any help.

Carol






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Re: Background Colour in Outlook 2016

Marianne Denning
 

My jars tells me that too but it usually isn't black on black. John's is just lying there. At least, that is true with my jars.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 28, 2017, at 7:42 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...> wrote:

Greetings All,

I am using Jaws 18.0.4321, Windows 10, and Outlook 2016; Jaws says black on black when I press insert F, and when I go to the ribbon, or to apply styles I find where to change the font colour, but not the background colour.

Many thanks for any suggestions as to changing the background colour to white.

Cheers Kevin.


Re: Background Colour in Outlook 2016

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Kevin,
 
See if this link helps you:
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 4:42 PM
Subject: Background Colour in Outlook 2016

Greetings All,

I am using Jaws 18.0.4321, Windows 10, and Outlook 2016; Jaws says black on black when I press insert F, and when I go to the ribbon, or to apply styles I find where to change the font colour, but not the background colour.

Many thanks for any suggestions as to changing the background colour to white.

Cheers Kevin.


Background Colour in Outlook 2016

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Greetings All,

I am using Jaws 18.0.4321, Windows 10, and Outlook 2016; Jaws says black on black when I press insert F, and when I go to the ribbon, or to apply styles I find where to change the font colour, but not the background colour.

Many thanks for any suggestions as to changing the background colour to white.

Cheers Kevin.


Re: jaws version key stroke

Mario
 

or simply pressing the up or down arrow when the JAWS window is active
(in focus).
also press insert+control+v.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1inct@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, Sep 28, 2017 2:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws version key stroke

Insert J then up arrow to about and press enter.


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On 9/28/2017 2:34 PM, Mark Furness wrote:

What is key stroke to announce what version of jaws you are running?

I thought it was jaws key plus 3 on numpad.

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Re: JAWS PROBLEM

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Oh, I never even think of virtual ribbons, good that you
gave that reminder.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS PROBLEM

Make sure that Vertual Ribbon is not checked on your home
computer. This is in JAWS Options, under Miscellaneous. The
default configuration must be loaded before this can be
changed.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gery Gaubert
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS PROBLEM



I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version
18 on 2 computers. On my work computer in office 2013 I
press alt

V

A

B



I can then change the way messages are sorted. I get the
choices date, from, to etc.

On my home computer with either version of jaws this does
not work. I can press alt, then v, but can't sort by name
or date. Any ideas?


Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I know you said you disabled effects, but it totally sounds to me like something is still enabled which causes this.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Thanks for all the feedback so far. I am already using headphones. What has been suggested to me is to try an external USB sound card. There are other JAWS performance issues such as strange lags, pops, clicks, and generally not fun. Not terrible, but with all the time I spend on the computer, it is worth it to me to invest even more money, such as to buy the sound card.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good systems. I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or 3.5mm audio jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the problem remains when using a different output. It may simply be that the built-in speakers will not give good enough results to use at the speed you would like.

On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced
group of JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed
96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice
degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter
or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point
where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give
the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This
really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook,
and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand
laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more
RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not
exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest
update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated
the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.
No improvement. By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle
those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned
I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to
walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they
described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to
slow it down, and the problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I
had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while
acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the
most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would
have the best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time
they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version
17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost
reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my
previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will
try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a
recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi Dennis,

 

I just for the fun of it tried your settings with Shelley and I better not do it or tomorrow you all will read about how a blind guy went on a murder rampage in a small town in Canada *smile*.

I have my speed set at 55 because anything less drives me nuts and I guess I just happen to like a low pitch.

As for Tim, I am not sure what causes your issue, as I said I run Eloquence at 55 and I also have an Asus laptop as well as several desktop computers. What pitch do you use, Tim?

I do, by the way, highly doubt upgrading to Jaws 18 would make any difference since it’s not like Eloquence in Jaws 18 is different from Eloquence in any other version of Jaws. You could always try it by downloading Jaws 18 because you could run it in 40-minute demo mode as often as you like so you would get a good idea about how it is.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

 

i have always had great success using shelly. i put the pitch at 70 and my speed is 35. she works great.

 

On 9/28/2017 3:05 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

 

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced group of JAWS users is as follows.

 

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed 96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc.  This really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook, and I do a lot of writing and editing!

 

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not exist.  I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest update to Windows 10.. 

 

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.  I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.  No improvement.  By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

 

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.  Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to slow it down, and the problem disappears.  Ironically, it acts as if I had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

 

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

 

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would have the best chance of working for my purposes?

 

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18.  At least this time they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version 17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018.  I would, for cost reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my previous computers!  If trying other voices does not work, then I will try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

 

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated.  If you think I should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

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