Re: jaws version key stroke
Mario
or simply pressing the up or down arrow when the JAWS window is active
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(in focus). also press insert+control+v.
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From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1inct@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, Sep 28, 2017 2:38 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: jaws version key stroke Insert J then up arrow to about and press enter. lucky1inct@gmail.com "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!" --St. Francis On 9/28/2017 2:34 PM, Mark Furness wrote: What is key stroke to announce what version of jaws you are running? I thought it was jaws key plus 3 on numpad. Mercy without repentance is license
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Re: JAWS PROBLEM
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Oh, I never even think of virtual ribbons, good that you
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gave that reminder. Best from, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS PROBLEM Make sure that Vertual Ribbon is not checked on your home computer. This is in JAWS Options, under Miscellaneous. The default configuration must be loaded before this can be changed. Bill White Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gery Gaubert Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:54 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: JAWS PROBLEM I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version 18 on 2 computers. On my work computer in office 2013 I press alt V A B I can then change the way messages are sorted. I get the choices date, from, to etc. On my home computer with either version of jaws this does not work. I can press alt, then v, but can't sort by name or date. Any ideas?
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Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
I know you said you disabled effects, but it totally sounds to me like something is still enabled which causes this.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next? Thanks for all the feedback so far. I am already using headphones. What has been suggested to me is to try an external USB sound card. There are other JAWS performance issues such as strange lags, pops, clicks, and generally not fun. Not terrible, but with all the time I spend on the computer, it is worth it to me to invest even more money, such as to buy the sound card. Tim Ford -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next? On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good systems. I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or 3.5mm audio jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the problem remains when using a different output. It may simply be that the built-in speakers will not give good enough results to use at the speed you would like. On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote: You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@gmail.com
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Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Hi Dennis,
I just for the fun of it tried your settings with Shelley and I better not do it or tomorrow you all will read about how a blind guy went on a murder rampage in a small town in Canada *smile*. I have my speed set at 55 because anything less drives me nuts and I guess I just happen to like a low pitch. As for Tim, I am not sure what causes your issue, as I said I run Eloquence at 55 and I also have an Asus laptop as well as several desktop computers. What pitch do you use, Tim? I do, by the way, highly doubt upgrading to Jaws 18 would make any difference since it’s not like Eloquence in Jaws 18 is different from Eloquence in any other version of Jaws. You could always try it by downloading Jaws 18 because you could run it in 40-minute demo mode as often as you like so you would get a good idea about how it is.
Regards, Sieghard
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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 2:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?
i have always had great success using shelly. i put the pitch at 70 and my speed is 35. she works great.
On 9/28/2017 3:05 PM, Tim Ford wrote:
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Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?
Tim Ford
Thanks for all the feedback so far. I am already using headphones. What has been suggested to me is to try an external USB sound card. There are other JAWS performance issues such as strange lags, pops, clicks, and generally not fun. Not terrible, but with all the time I spend on the computer, it is worth it to me to invest even more money, such as to buy the sound card.
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Tim Ford
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next? On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good systems. I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or 3.5mm audio jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the problem remains when using a different output. It may simply be that the built-in speakers will not give good enough results to use at the speed you would like. On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote: You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@gmail.com
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Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?
dennis
i have always had great success
using shelly. i put the pitch at 70 and my speed is 35. she
works great. On 9/28/2017 3:05 PM, Tim Ford wrote:
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Re: JAWS PROBLEM
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Try Alt
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V V S Best from, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gery Gaubert Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 2:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: JAWS PROBLEM I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version 18 on 2 computers. On my work computer in office 2013 I press alt V A B I can then change the way messages are sorted. I get the choices date, from, to etc. On my home computer with either version of jaws this does not work. I can press alt, then v, but can't sort by name or date. Any ideas?
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Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?
Soronel Haetir
On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good
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systems. I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or 3.5mm audio jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the problem remains when using a different output. It may simply be that the built-in speakers will not give good enough results to use at the speed you would like.
On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I --
Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@gmail.com
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Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?
John Covici
You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it. On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400, Tim Ford wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com
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JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?
Tim Ford
Hi All,
The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced group of JAWS users is as follows.
If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed 96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook, and I do a lot of writing and editing!
This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest update to Windows 10..
At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine. I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off. No improvement. By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!
FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature. Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to slow it down, and the problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.
FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.
With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would have the best chance of working for my purposes?
FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version 17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will try 18 and 201, in demo mode.
So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Tim Ford
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Re: JAWS PROBLEM
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi again, Gery. I should have also included that the Vertual Ribbons option is in Settings Center. Use either JAWS key plus F2, or use JAWS key plus the number six under the function keys. Then navigate to Miscellaneous and find Vertual Ribbons, or use the Search Box and type in Vertual Ribbon. Then load Default Configuration with CONTROL SHIFT plus D.
Bill White Billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gery Gaubert
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:54 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: JAWS PROBLEM
I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version 18 on 2 computers. On my work computer in office 2013 I press alt V A B
I can then change the way messages are sorted. I get the choices date, from, to etc. On my home computer with either version of jaws this does not work. I can press alt, then v, but can’t sort by name or date. Any ideas?
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Re: JAWS PROBLEM
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Make sure that Vertual Ribbon is not checked on your home computer. This is in JAWS Options, under Miscellaneous. The default configuration must be loaded before this can be changed.
Bill White Billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gery Gaubert
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:54 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: JAWS PROBLEM
I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version 18 on 2 computers. On my work computer in office 2013 I press alt V A B
I can then change the way messages are sorted. I get the choices date, from, to etc. On my home computer with either version of jaws this does not work. I can press alt, then v, but can’t sort by name or date. Any ideas?
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office problem
Gery Gaubert <ggaubert@...>
I forgot, I am using windows 10 at home and at work too.
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JAWS PROBLEM
Gery Gaubert <ggaubert@...>
I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version 18 on 2 computers. On my work computer in office 2013 I press alt V A B
I can then change the way messages are sorted. I get the choices date, from, to etc. On my home computer with either version of jaws this does not work. I can press alt, then v, but can’t sort by name or date. Any ideas?
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Re: jaws key describer.
Carol Smith
Thanks for the extra info.
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Carol
On 9/28/2017 2:31 PM, netbat66 wrote:
you may not know this. but when the key describer on, if you press the key combonations twice jaws will give you even more help for the keys you press.
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Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
If you press Jaws Key and 1, it gives functions of JAWS hot keys, and if you press the key twice, more information.
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Best from, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 2:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command Hello Jonas, What do you mean by turning on Jaws help? Thanks. CAROL On 9/28/2017 7:57 AM, Jonas Voll wrote: I think you will need to use one of the other Jaws Cursors!
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Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command
Carol Smith
DUH! In Window-Eyes, that is the same as key describer. Funny how we forget to use the simple things, grin. Thanks.
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Carol
On 9/28/2017 2:24 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Carol. By turning on JAWS help, I believe he means the keystroke:
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Re: jaws version key stroke
Maria Campbell
Insert J then up arrow to about and press enter.
lucky1inct@... "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!" --St. Francis On 9/28/2017 2:34 PM, Mark Furness
wrote:
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jaws version key stroke
Mark Furness
What is key stroke to announce what version of jaws you are running?
I thought it was jaws key plus 3 on numpad. Mercy without repentance is license
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jaws key describer.
netbat66
you may not know this. but when the key describer on, if you press the key combonations twice jaws will give you even more help for the keys you press.
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From: Bill White Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:24 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command Hi, Carol. By turning on JAWS help, I believe he means the keystroke: JAWS key plus the number one under the function keys. This causes JAWS to tell you what a key or key combination does in JAWS. Bill White Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:21 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command Hello Jonas, What do you mean by turning on Jaws help? Thanks. CAROL On 9/28/2017 7:57 AM, Jonas Voll wrote: I think you will need to use one of the other Jaws Cursors!
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