Date   

Re: Background Colour in Outlook 2016

Marianne Denning
 

My jars tells me that too but it usually isn't black on black. John's is just lying there. At least, that is true with my jars.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 28, 2017, at 7:42 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...> wrote:

Greetings All,

I am using Jaws 18.0.4321, Windows 10, and Outlook 2016; Jaws says black on black when I press insert F, and when I go to the ribbon, or to apply styles I find where to change the font colour, but not the background colour.

Many thanks for any suggestions as to changing the background colour to white.

Cheers Kevin.


Re: Background Colour in Outlook 2016

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Kevin,
 
See if this link helps you:
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 4:42 PM
Subject: Background Colour in Outlook 2016

Greetings All,

I am using Jaws 18.0.4321, Windows 10, and Outlook 2016; Jaws says black on black when I press insert F, and when I go to the ribbon, or to apply styles I find where to change the font colour, but not the background colour.

Many thanks for any suggestions as to changing the background colour to white.

Cheers Kevin.


Background Colour in Outlook 2016

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Greetings All,

I am using Jaws 18.0.4321, Windows 10, and Outlook 2016; Jaws says black on black when I press insert F, and when I go to the ribbon, or to apply styles I find where to change the font colour, but not the background colour.

Many thanks for any suggestions as to changing the background colour to white.

Cheers Kevin.


Re: jaws version key stroke

Mario
 

or simply pressing the up or down arrow when the JAWS window is active
(in focus).
also press insert+control+v.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1inct@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, Sep 28, 2017 2:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws version key stroke

Insert J then up arrow to about and press enter.


lucky1inct@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/28/2017 2:34 PM, Mark Furness wrote:

What is key stroke to announce what version of jaws you are running?

I thought it was jaws key plus 3 on numpad.

Mercy without repentance is license


Re: JAWS PROBLEM

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Oh, I never even think of virtual ribbons, good that you
gave that reminder.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS PROBLEM

Make sure that Vertual Ribbon is not checked on your home
computer. This is in JAWS Options, under Miscellaneous. The
default configuration must be loaded before this can be
changed.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gery Gaubert
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS PROBLEM



I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version
18 on 2 computers. On my work computer in office 2013 I
press alt

V

A

B



I can then change the way messages are sorted. I get the
choices date, from, to etc.

On my home computer with either version of jaws this does
not work. I can press alt, then v, but can't sort by name
or date. Any ideas?


Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

 

I know you said you disabled effects, but it totally sounds to me like something is still enabled which causes this.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Thanks for all the feedback so far. I am already using headphones. What has been suggested to me is to try an external USB sound card. There are other JAWS performance issues such as strange lags, pops, clicks, and generally not fun. Not terrible, but with all the time I spend on the computer, it is worth it to me to invest even more money, such as to buy the sound card.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good systems. I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or 3.5mm audio jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the problem remains when using a different output. It may simply be that the built-in speakers will not give good enough results to use at the speed you would like.

On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced
group of JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed
96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice
degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter
or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point
where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give
the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This
really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook,
and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand
laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more
RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not
exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest
update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated
the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.
No improvement. By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle
those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned
I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to
walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they
described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to
slow it down, and the problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I
had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while
acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the
most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would
have the best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time
they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version
17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost
reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my
previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will
try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a
recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com




--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

 

Hi Dennis,

 

I just for the fun of it tried your settings with Shelley and I better not do it or tomorrow you all will read about how a blind guy went on a murder rampage in a small town in Canada *smile*.

I have my speed set at 55 because anything less drives me nuts and I guess I just happen to like a low pitch.

As for Tim, I am not sure what causes your issue, as I said I run Eloquence at 55 and I also have an Asus laptop as well as several desktop computers. What pitch do you use, Tim?

I do, by the way, highly doubt upgrading to Jaws 18 would make any difference since it’s not like Eloquence in Jaws 18 is different from Eloquence in any other version of Jaws. You could always try it by downloading Jaws 18 because you could run it in 40-minute demo mode as often as you like so you would get a good idea about how it is.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

 

i have always had great success using shelly. i put the pitch at 70 and my speed is 35. she works great.

 

On 9/28/2017 3:05 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

 

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced group of JAWS users is as follows.

 

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed 96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc.  This really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook, and I do a lot of writing and editing!

 

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not exist.  I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest update to Windows 10.. 

 

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.  I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.  No improvement.  By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

 

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.  Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to slow it down, and the problem disappears.  Ironically, it acts as if I had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

 

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

 

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would have the best chance of working for my purposes?

 

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18.  At least this time they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version 17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018.  I would, for cost reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my previous computers!  If trying other voices does not work, then I will try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

 

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated.  If you think I should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

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Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Tim Ford
 

Thanks for all the feedback so far. I am already using headphones. What has been suggested to me is to try an external USB sound card. There are other JAWS performance issues such as strange lags, pops, clicks, and generally not fun. Not terrible, but with all the time I spend on the computer, it is worth it to me to invest even more money, such as to buy the sound card.

Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good systems. I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or 3.5mm audio jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the problem remains when using a different output. It may simply be that the built-in speakers will not give good enough results to use at the speed you would like.

On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced
group of JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed
96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice
degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter
or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point
where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give
the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This
really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook,
and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand
laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more
RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not
exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest
update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated
the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.
No improvement. By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle
those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned
I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to
walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they
described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to
slow it down, and the problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I
had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while
acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the
most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would
have the best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time
they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version
17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost
reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my
previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will
try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a
recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com




--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

dennis
 

i have always had great success using shelly. i put the pitch at 70 and my speed is 35. she works great.


On 9/28/2017 3:05 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

 

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced group of JAWS users is as follows.

 

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed 96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc.  This really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook, and I do a lot of writing and editing!

 

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not exist.  I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest update to Windows 10.. 

 

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.  I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.  No improvement.  By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

 

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.  Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to slow it down, and the problem disappears.  Ironically, it acts as if I had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

 

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

 

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would have the best chance of working for my purposes?

 

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18.  At least this time they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version 17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018.  I would, for cost reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my previous computers!  If trying other voices does not work, then I will try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

 

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated.  If you think I should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

Tim Ford



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Re: JAWS PROBLEM

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Try Alt

V

V

S

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gery Gaubert
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS PROBLEM

I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version
18 on 2 computers. On my work computer in office 2013 I
press alt

V

A

B



I can then change the way messages are sorted. I get the
choices date, from, to etc.

On my home computer with either version of jaws this does
not work. I can press alt, then v, but can't sort by name
or date. Any ideas?


Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Soronel Haetir
 

On-board audio is very often of low quality even on otherwise good
systems. I would suggest you find a pair of headphones (either USB or
3.5mm audio jack, doesn't matter for this test) and check whether the
problem remains when using a different output. It may simply be that
the built-in speakers will not give good enough results to use at the
speed you would like.

On 9/28/17, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced group of
JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed 96)
on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice degrades
under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter or syllable
becoming vague and
indistinct, and uncertain to the point where I too often need to resort to
that command to have JAWS give the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b
for bravo, etc. This really slows me down when writing or editing in Word
or on
Outlook, and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand laptop,
which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more RAM than I had
on my previous computers, and this problem did not exist. I am running
JAWS 17, the final
release, and the very latest update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated the
drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off. No
improvement. By
the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle those sound card driver
updates since I live alone, and was concerned I could lose all sound, and
have to go find a working pair of eyes to walk them through getting one of
the sound cards
speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they described
as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to slow
it down, and the
problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I had a really old and slow
computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while acknowledging
that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the most responsive and
clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would have the
best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time they
first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version 17, and
did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost reasons, prefer
to get JAWS 17
working the way it did on all my previous computers! If trying other
voices does not work, then I will try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a recommendation
on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com



--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

John Covici
 

You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced group of JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed 96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter or syllable becoming vague and
indistinct, and uncertain to the point where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on
Outlook, and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final
release, and the very latest update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine. I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off. No improvement. By
the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to walk them through getting one of the sound cards
speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature. Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to slow it down, and the
problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would have the best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version 17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17
working the way it did on all my previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com


JAWS 17 vague and indistinct on my new laptop: What I have tried, what should I try next?

Tim Ford
 

Hi All,

 

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced group of JAWS users is as follows.

 

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed 96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc.  This really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook, and I do a lot of writing and editing!

 

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not exist.  I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest update to Windows 10.. 

 

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.  I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.  No improvement.  By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

 

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.  Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to slow it down, and the problem disappears.  Ironically, it acts as if I had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

 

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

 

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would have the best chance of working for my purposes?

 

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18.  At least this time they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version 17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018.  I would, for cost reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my previous computers!  If trying other voices does not work, then I will try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

 

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated.  If you think I should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

Tim Ford


Re: JAWS PROBLEM

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi again, Gery. I should have also included that the Vertual Ribbons option is in Settings Center. Use either JAWS key plus F2, or use JAWS key plus the number six under the function keys. Then navigate to Miscellaneous and find Vertual Ribbons, or use the Search Box and type in Vertual Ribbon. Then load Default Configuration with CONTROL SHIFT plus D.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gery Gaubert
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS PROBLEM

 

I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version 18 on 2 computers.  On my work computer in office 2013 I press alt 

V

A

B

 

I can then change the way messages are sorted.  I get the choices  date, from, to etc.

On my home computer with either version of jaws this does not work.  I can press alt, then v, but can’t sort by name or date.  Any ideas?


Re: JAWS PROBLEM

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Make sure that Vertual Ribbon is not checked on your home computer. This is in JAWS Options, under Miscellaneous. The default configuration must be loaded before this can be changed.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gery Gaubert
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS PROBLEM

 

I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version 18 on 2 computers.  On my work computer in office 2013 I press alt 

V

A

B

 

I can then change the way messages are sorted.  I get the choices  date, from, to etc.

On my home computer with either version of jaws this does not work.  I can press alt, then v, but can’t sort by name or date.  Any ideas?


office problem

Gery Gaubert <ggaubert@...>
 

I forgot,  I am using windows 10 at home and at work too.


JAWS PROBLEM

Gery Gaubert <ggaubert@...>
 

I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version 18 on 2 computers.  On my work computer in office 2013 I press alt 

V

A

B

 

I can then change the way messages are sorted.  I get the choices  date, from, to etc.

On my home computer with either version of jaws this does not work.  I can press alt, then v, but can’t sort by name or date.  Any ideas?


Re: jaws key describer.

Carol Smith
 

Thanks for the extra info.

Carol

On 9/28/2017 2:31 PM, netbat66 wrote:
you may not know this. but when the key describer on, if you press the key combonations twice jaws will give you even more help for the keys you press.

-----Original Message----- From: Bill White
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi, Carol. By turning on JAWS help, I believe he means the keystroke:
JAWS key plus the number one under the function keys.

This causes JAWS to tell you what a key or key combination does in JAWS.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hello Jonas,

What do you mean by turning on Jaws help? Thanks.

CAROL


On 9/28/2017 7:57 AM, Jonas Voll wrote:
I think you will need to use one of the other Jaws Cursors!
I will recommend you turn on your Jaws help and play with this!


Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

I think its alt-shift and down/up/lwft/right arrow keys. It goes by 2 pixels by default if I remember correctly.

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:13:47 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to move the mouse pointer by pixels.
My brother has a web site where he must route the mouse to a certain
letter on the screen and then navigate 20 pixels upward in order to
click on a specific point on the screen.

example:

the word "name" is in position 340 (horizontal) and 444 (vertical)

The letter "e" in "name" is at position 356, 444

He needs to move the mouse from the e to position 356, 424 in order to
click the invisible button.

Is there a way he can do this with Jaws? He is running Win10 and is
still learning how to get around with Jaws. Thanks for any help.

Carol






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Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

If you press Jaws Key and 1, it gives functions of JAWS hot keys, and if you press the key twice, more information.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hello Jonas,

What do you mean by turning on Jaws help? Thanks.

CAROL


On 9/28/2017 7:57 AM, Jonas Voll wrote:
I think you will need to use one of the other Jaws Cursors!
I will recommend you turn on your Jaws help and play with this!


Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

I think its alt-shift and down/up/lwft/right arrow keys. It goes by 2 pixels by default if I remember correctly.

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:13:47 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to move the mouse pointer by pixels.
My brother has a web site where he must route the mouse to a certain
letter on the screen and then navigate 20 pixels upward in order to
click on a specific point on the screen.

example:

the word "name" is in position 340 (horizontal) and 444 (vertical)

The letter "e" in "name" is at position 356, 444

He needs to move the mouse from the e to position 356, 424 in order
to click the invisible button.

Is there a way he can do this with Jaws? He is running Win10 and is
still learning how to get around with Jaws. Thanks for any help.

Carol






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol Smith
 

DUH! In Window-Eyes, that is the same as key describer. Funny how we forget to use the simple things, grin. Thanks.

Carol

On 9/28/2017 2:24 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Carol. By turning on JAWS help, I believe he means the keystroke:
JAWS key plus the number one under the function keys.

This causes JAWS to tell you what a key or key combination does in JAWS.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hello Jonas,

What do you mean by turning on Jaws help? Thanks.

CAROL


On 9/28/2017 7:57 AM, Jonas Voll wrote:
I think you will need to use one of the other Jaws Cursors!
I will recommend you turn on your Jaws help and play with this!


Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

I think its alt-shift and down/up/lwft/right arrow keys. It goes by 2 pixels by default if I remember correctly.

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:13:47 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to move the mouse pointer by pixels.
My brother has a web site where he must route the mouse to a certain
letter on the screen and then navigate 20 pixels upward in order to
click on a specific point on the screen.

example:

the word "name" is in position 340 (horizontal) and 444 (vertical)

The letter "e" in "name" is at position 356, 444

He needs to move the mouse from the e to position 356, 424 in order to
click the invisible button.

Is there a way he can do this with Jaws? He is running Win10 and is
still learning how to get around with Jaws. Thanks for any help.

Carol






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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