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Re: drive space

 

Hi,
From Computer, select the drive, then press Alt+ENTER to open
properties. It shows you the drive's free space and capacity.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Date sent: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:15:52 -0000
Subject: drive space

hi all

I have a external drive on my pc but I cant find out how much space is left on it can any one tell me how to do this
Im using windows seven and jaws 12
cheers in advance Joe
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drive space

joe stinton
 

hi all

I have a external drive on my pc but I cant find out how much space is left on it can any one tell me how to do this
Im using windows seven and jaws 12
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Re: Net book keys and changing their functions

Frank Ventura
 

Google for a free program called Sharp Keys.

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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ron Edwards
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 2:52 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Net book keys and changing their functions

Hi all.



Using a netbook that doesn't have a working INS (insert) key.



The 2nd key from the right on the top rowe says Print Screen. The print
indicator on the key itself says ins.



Does anyone know how I might change this to function as an insert Key?



Interested to hear your thoughts.



Ron



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Re: going to the address bar

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Tab or F6 should work.

At 08:56 AM 11/26/2011, you wrote:
Hi: I am using jaws 10. When I go to the address by with alt+d how do I get out of the address to get back into the web page? Thanks very much.
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:16 AM
Subject: extracting mail from outlook express


Hi.
For some reason I've lost all the mails I got in my inbox in outlook express.
I know they are there, because the .dbx file is very large.
I've used dbextract from jfwlite.com, but it refuses to extract everything, I get a runtime error about overflow.
I've got very important mails there I got a short time ago.
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Re: going to the address bar

Dave...
 

John,

If you're using Outlook Express, it's Alt+F4 to shut down the address
dialog.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 05:56
Subject: going to the address bar


Hi: I am using jaws 10. When I go to the address by with alt+d how do I get
out of the address to get back into the web page? Thanks very much.
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:16 AM
Subject: extracting mail from outlook express


Hi.
For some reason I've lost all the mails I got in my inbox in outlook
express.
I know they are there, because the .dbx file is very large.
I've used dbextract from jfwlite.com, but it refuses to extract
everything, I get a runtime error about overflow.
I've got very important mails there I got a short time ago.
Is there anything better?
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Re: [Bulk] extracting mail from outlook express

Dave...
 

Kristoffer,

View menu, Current View, make sure you have "read all messages" checked.


Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 03:16
Subject: [Bulk] extracting mail from outlook express


Hi.
For some reason I've lost all the mails I got in my inbox in outlook
express.
I know they are there, because the .dbx file is very large.
I've used dbextract from jfwlite.com, but it refuses to extract everything,
I get a runtime error about overflow.
I've got very important mails there I got a short time ago.
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Re: extracting mail from outlook express

Adrian Spratt
 

I know this can be done because I did it when I had OE, but I no longer do
and I've forgotten the method. Until someone else posts, see if these Google
results lead you to an answer:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=734&bih=625&q=how+to+restor
e+outlook+express+messages%3F&gbv=2&oq=how+to+restore+outlook+express+messag
es%3F&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2782l22219l0l23063l50l43l0l21l21l0l188l2
735l5.17l22l0

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Kristoffer Gustafsson
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:16 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: extracting mail from outlook express

Hi.
For some reason I've lost all the mails I got in my inbox in outlook
express.
I know they are there, because the .dbx file is very large.
I've used dbextract from jfwlite.com, but it refuses to extract everything,
I get a runtime error about overflow.
I've got very important mails there I got a short time ago.
Is there anything better?
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Re: going to the address bar

Adrian Spratt
 

Control-F6.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 8:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: going to the address bar

Hi: I am using jaws 10. When I go to the address by with alt+d how do I get
out of the address to get back into the web page? Thanks very much.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <kg84@dreamwld.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:16 AM
Subject: extracting mail from outlook express


Hi.
For some reason I've lost all the mails I got in my inbox in outlook
express.
I know they are there, because the .dbx file is very large.
I've used dbextract from jfwlite.com, but it refuses to extract
everything, I get a runtime error about overflow.
I've got very important mails there I got a short time ago.
Is there anything better?
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Re: going to the address bar

Gerald Levy
 

Just press Enter on the Address Bar to redisplay the web page.

Gerald

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 8:56 AM
Subject: going to the address bar


Hi: I am using jaws 10. When I go to the address by with alt+d how do I get out of the address to get back into the web page? Thanks very much.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <kg84@dreamwld.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:16 AM
Subject: extracting mail from outlook express


Hi.
For some reason I've lost all the mails I got in my inbox in outlook express.
I know they are there, because the .dbx file is very large.
I've used dbextract from jfwlite.com, but it refuses to extract everything, I get a runtime error about overflow.
I've got very important mails there I got a short time ago.
Is there anything better?
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going to the address bar

John Fioravanti <fioresq1@...>
 

Hi: I am using jaws 10. When I go to the address by with alt+d how do I get out of the address to get back into the web page? Thanks very much.

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From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <kg84@dreamwld.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:16 AM
Subject: extracting mail from outlook express


Hi.
For some reason I've lost all the mails I got in my inbox in outlook express.
I know they are there, because the .dbx file is very large.
I've used dbextract from jfwlite.com, but it refuses to extract everything, I get a runtime error about overflow.
I've got very important mails there I got a short time ago.
Is there anything better?
/Kristoffer
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extracting mail from outlook express

Kristoffer Gustafsson
 

Hi.
For some reason I've lost all the mails I got in my inbox in outlook express.
I know they are there, because the .dbx file is very large.
I've used dbextract from jfwlite.com, but it refuses to extract everything, I get a runtime error about overflow.
I've got very important mails there I got a short time ago.
Is there anything better?
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jaws 11.0.1476 international, 12.0.1612 international, and English 13.0.527 32-bit, problem with mozilla programs

Kamil Żak <kamilek687@...>
 

Hello there. I am new on this mailing list. I have to try describe my
problem, which is with jaws 12.0.1612, jaws 11.0.1476 both international and
latest English version 13.0
I am using laptop and desktop computer with nvidia geforce cards. laptop,
nvidia gt 330m, Toshiba satellite a660-18g, desktop, nvidia 8800 gt, asus
p5q deluxe, both on windows 7 32-bit professional with service pack 1.
I have already installed latest drivers from nvidia, driver date is 24th
October 2011. When i am opening mozilla Firefox 7, 8 and thunderbird 8, i
can't move the jaws cursor from title bar, i can't also read current window
with insert+b command key. How i should to restore normal functionality of
jaws cursor and insert+b? May older drivers from nvidia are required or in
nvidia control panel are options, which can solve my problem?
best regards from Poland
Kamil Żak


Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Tom Behler
 

Thanks again, David.

This is exactly what I need at this point, as I travel the semi-unknown world of Windows 7 and Windows Live mail.

Hopefully, someday, I can be as helpful to someone on the list here as you have been to me of late.

Tom from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:13 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
To answer you're first question,
you'll need to label the graphic, before jaws will provide you with the
information, whether there's a attachment or not.
As for your other question?
If you enter on a message which you know has attachment,
Shift+tab once, you should land on the attachment.

If you wish to save the attachment,
While inside the message,
2 ways of doing this,

The first,

Press the alt key,
Right arrow until you hear;
Application menu, button, drop down grid,
Now press enter or the spacebar,
Now you can arrow down until you hear;
Save sub menu, again here you can right arro, or press enter to open.
The second,
While inside the message which contains the attachment,
Press alt+f,
Now, down arrow to the save sub menu,
Here you can either right arrow to open, or just press the enter key.
Hope this helps.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 9:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

This is extremely helpful!!

Thanks so much again!

I have one more question:

Even though Windows Live Mail doesn't tell me, I have one e-mail here that
has an attachment that I need to get to. ... In Outlook Express, of course,
you got to your attachments via insert A.. But, that does not work here.

How do you access your attachments in Windows Live Mail, and is there a way
to get Jaws to tell you whether a given e-mail has attachments?

Thanks again!

Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 4:30 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
A couple more things for ya.

Ctrl+1=inbox,
Ctrl+2=calendar
Ctrl+3=contacts.

Also, if you use the f6key,
You can cycle,
From search edit, to the inbox,
And to where you hear jaws say, mail, and you can down arrow and enter on
contacts.

Have a good day.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 12:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

I did not know this, so thanks for the tip.

I had been trying to navigate to different folders via the shift tab and up
and down arrow keys like I used to do in Outlook Express, and this was
rather difficult.

I appreciate the help very much.

Tom from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 7:05 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;

I assume you know this,
However, I'll tell you this just in case, If you wish to navigate to other
folders in WLM,
Ctrl+y,
Now you can arrow to the folder and press enter.
Unfortunately, we can't letter navigate.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

Well, I appreciate all of this information, and yes, it was very helpful as
always.

I will consider joining your yahoo list, but before I do that, I may have to
figure out which list to drop because I get so many e-mails every day.

I may just call Freedom Scientific, and ask them about my issues with
Windows Live Mail, just to have them here my concerns, and to add my voice
to those who are having problems.

I'll keep in touch as I struggle along here.

Thanks again ,David.

Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics -
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: Net book keys and changing their functions

George B
 

Rom try the function key and the print key if it has ins on the key it
useally means that the function key and that key will do the other listed.
Useally they are a different color and yes I know how would know but maybe
someone who can see can let you know.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ron Edwards
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:52
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Net book keys and changing their functions

Hi all.



Using a netbook that doesn't have a working INS (insert) key.



The 2nd key from the right on the top rowe says Print Screen. The
print
indicator on the key itself says ins.



Does anyone know how I might change this to function as an insert Key?



Interested to hear your thoughts.



Ron



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Re: Net book keys and changing their functions

Ron Edwards <facup1927@...>
 

Cheers Dean.

I'll investigate them.

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: 25 November 2011 20:08
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Net book keys and changing their functions

You can use either sharpies or autohotkey to reassign the keys on the
keyboard. Both are free and easy to find.

If you use JFW with the laptop layout, you have little need for an insert
key, since the caps lock key fills almost all of its JFW-related functions.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Ron Edwards
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:52 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Net book keys and changing their functions

Hi all.



Using a netbook that doesn't have a working INS (insert) key.



The 2nd key from the right on the top rowe says Print Screen. The print
indicator on the key itself says ins.



Does anyone know how I might change this to function as an insert Key?



Interested to hear your thoughts.



Ron



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Re: Net book keys and changing their functions

Dean Martineau <dean@...>
 

You can use either sharpies or autohotkey to reassign the keys on the
keyboard. Both are free and easy to find.

If you use JFW with the laptop layout, you have little need for an insert
key, since the caps lock key fills almost all of its JFW-related functions.

Dean

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On Behalf Of Ron Edwards
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:52 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Net book keys and changing their functions

Hi all.



Using a netbook that doesn't have a working INS (insert) key.



The 2nd key from the right on the top rowe says Print Screen. The print
indicator on the key itself says ins.



Does anyone know how I might change this to function as an insert Key?



Interested to hear your thoughts.



Ron



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Net book keys and changing their functions

Ron Edwards <facup1927@...>
 

Hi all.



Using a netbook that doesn't have a working INS (insert) key.



The 2nd key from the right on the top rowe says Print Screen. The print
indicator on the key itself says ins.



Does anyone know how I might change this to function as an insert Key?



Interested to hear your thoughts.



Ron



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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello Tom;
To answer you're first question,
you'll need to label the graphic, before jaws will provide you with the
information, whether there's a attachment or not.
As for your other question?
If you enter on a message which you know has attachment,
Shift+tab once, you should land on the attachment.

If you wish to save the attachment,
While inside the message,
2 ways of doing this,

The first,

Press the alt key,
Right arrow until you hear;
Application menu, button, drop down grid,
Now press enter or the spacebar,
Now you can arrow down until you hear;
Save sub menu, again here you can right arro, or press enter to open.
The second,
While inside the message which contains the attachment,
Press alt+f,
Now, down arrow to the save sub menu,
Here you can either right arrow to open, or just press the enter key.
Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 9:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

This is extremely helpful!!

Thanks so much again!

I have one more question:

Even though Windows Live Mail doesn't tell me, I have one e-mail here that
has an attachment that I need to get to. ... In Outlook Express, of course,
you got to your attachments via insert A.. But, that does not work here.

How do you access your attachments in Windows Live Mail, and is there a way
to get Jaws to tell you whether a given e-mail has attachments?

Thanks again!

Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 4:30 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
A couple more things for ya.

Ctrl+1=inbox,
Ctrl+2=calendar
Ctrl+3=contacts.

Also, if you use the f6key,
You can cycle,
From search edit, to the inbox,
And to where you hear jaws say, mail, and you can down arrow and enter on
contacts.

Have a good day.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 12:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

I did not know this, so thanks for the tip.

I had been trying to navigate to different folders via the shift tab and up
and down arrow keys like I used to do in Outlook Express, and this was
rather difficult.

I appreciate the help very much.

Tom from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 7:05 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;

I assume you know this,
However, I'll tell you this just in case, If you wish to navigate to other
folders in WLM,
Ctrl+y,
Now you can arrow to the folder and press enter.
Unfortunately, we can't letter navigate.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

Well, I appreciate all of this information, and yes, it was very helpful as
always.

I will consider joining your yahoo list, but before I do that, I may have to
figure out which list to drop because I get so many e-mails every day.

I may just call Freedom Scientific, and ask them about my issues with
Windows Live Mail, just to have them here my concerns, and to add my voice
to those who are having problems.

I'll keep in touch as I struggle along here.

Thanks again ,David.

Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics -
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Tom Behler
 

David:

This is extremely helpful!!

Thanks so much again!

I have one more question:

Even though Windows Live Mail doesn't tell me, I have one e-mail here that has an attachment that I need to get to. ... In Outlook Express, of course, you got to your attachments via insert A.. But, that does not work here.

How do you access your attachments in Windows Live Mail, and is there a way to get Jaws to tell you whether a given e-mail has attachments?

Thanks again!

Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 4:30 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
A couple more things for ya.

Ctrl+1=inbox,
Ctrl+2=calendar
Ctrl+3=contacts.

Also, if you use the f6key,
You can cycle,
From search edit, to the inbox,
And to where you hear jaws say, mail, and you can down arrow and enter on
contacts.

Have a good day.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 12:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

I did not know this, so thanks for the tip.

I had been trying to navigate to different folders via the shift tab and up
and down arrow keys like I used to do in Outlook Express, and this was
rather difficult.

I appreciate the help very much.

Tom from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 7:05 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;

I assume you know this,
However, I'll tell you this just in case, If you wish to navigate to other
folders in WLM,
Ctrl+y,
Now you can arrow to the folder and press enter.
Unfortunately, we can't letter navigate.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

Well, I appreciate all of this information, and yes, it was very helpful as
always.

I will consider joining your yahoo list, but before I do that, I may have to
figure out which list to drop because I get so many e-mails every day.

I may just call Freedom Scientific, and ask them about my issues with
Windows Live Mail, just to have them here my concerns, and to add my voice
to those who are having problems.

I'll keep in touch as I struggle along here.

Thanks again ,David.

Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics -
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello Tom;
A couple more things for ya.

Ctrl+1=inbox,
Ctrl+2=calendar
Ctrl+3=contacts.

Also, if you use the f6key,
You can cycle,
From search edit, to the inbox,
And to where you hear jaws say, mail, and you can down arrow and enter on
contacts.

Have a good day.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 12:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

I did not know this, so thanks for the tip.

I had been trying to navigate to different folders via the shift tab and up
and down arrow keys like I used to do in Outlook Express, and this was
rather difficult.

I appreciate the help very much.

Tom from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 7:05 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;

I assume you know this,
However, I'll tell you this just in case, If you wish to navigate to other
folders in WLM,
Ctrl+y,
Now you can arrow to the folder and press enter.
Unfortunately, we can't letter navigate.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

Well, I appreciate all of this information, and yes, it was very helpful as
always.

I will consider joining your yahoo list, but before I do that, I may have to
figure out which list to drop because I get so many e-mails every day.

I may just call Freedom Scientific, and ask them about my issues with
Windows Live Mail, just to have them here my concerns, and to add my voice
to those who are having problems.

I'll keep in touch as I struggle along here.

Thanks again ,David.

Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics -
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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