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Re: Questions on Kodi 17.4.

Shane clark
 

Hi,

You can get Kodi 16.1 from kodi.tv/downloads.

I can send the link to the screenreader.

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On August 30, 2017 2:34:49 PM "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...> wrote:

hmmm, where one get a copy of 16.1? thanks.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 8/29/2017 04:08 PM, Chris said:
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Its the same here with 17.4 crashes still

Went back to 16.1 as that still works ok

Maybe when the addon is updated it will work possibly???


From: <mailto:hshaneclark@...>Shane clark
Sent: 29 August 2017 21:49
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Questions on Kodi 17.4.

Hello everyone,

Would anyone happen to possibly know, if Kodi 17.4 is accessible with
Windows 10 and the screen reader that comes with Kodi? I know it's
accessible with Windows 10, but when I try to install 17.3 and use it with
the Kodi screen reader, every time the screen reader begin speaking, Kodi
crashed. So I was just wondering if anybody may have already installed the
latest version of Kodi, and tried it out?

Thanks, Shane.

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Re: Office 2016

D
 

Hey Tom,

 

 

If you download them will you send them to me as well?  I will share them with other coworkers-thanks.

 

I am also interested in knowing how to better format documents so they are appealing with good layout-any advice on this as well?

 

Thanks everyone for your input, you are an awesome support!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 7:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 2016

 

Hi

Thanks, Jason, for reminding me about the keystroke references at the Microsoft web site. I may go find those, download them if I can, and pass them on to my students. I just recently switched to Office 2016 myself but haven't found it to be radically different from 2010.  Tim, what did you mean when you said that you found Office 2016 to be almost unrecognizable? When I first saw Word 2016 I immediately got the Start Screen and wasn't immediately sure how to navigate it.  So, having found the button/icon for "blank document" I activated it and was placed in a fresh document, then pressed Alt+F followed by T to get into Word options. In the General tab I was able to uncheck the box that tells Word to show the Start Screen when I launch it. 

  
My initial impression of the Start Screen is that it may give me access to different types of document templates for flyers, business letters, resumes and more. Is this so, and if anybody out there has experimented with them, have you found them to be accessible? Years ago I tried using a resume template with dismal results.

Like Diane, I'm interested in comphehensive tutorials for Office 2016, particularly some in DAISY format, and/or ones that won't cost me or my students an arm and a leg. 

Thanks,

 

Tom

 

 
Sent from my iPhone 7


On Aug 30, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason@...> wrote:

A few suggestions:

 

Microsoft have very good lists of keystrokes available for all of their Office applications. These can be found on their Web site. Just make sure you locate the references for the correct version of each of the programs (i.e., the Windows 2016 version).

 

You can find some of what you need by navigating and familiarizing yourself with the ribbons. However, some functions are found deep within multiple layers of dialogs. You can try the Alt+q command within Microsoft Word, Outlook and possibly other MS-Office programs, which lets you search the available functionality by entering key words. If this doesn’t help, I often find that it’s faster to perform a Web search using my preferred search engine to find an article describing what I’m looking for than it is to locate it within the complex menu structures of Microsoft Office applications.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of D
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 2016

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group and new to JAWS 18 & Office 2016.  I am needing tutorials or guides to get me up and running on these. I was using 2010 with JAWS 15 so I have a lot to learn J

 

Thanks much for any information you can share with me,

 

Diane


Re: Office 2016

Ann Byrne
 

There is at least one JAWS seminar on Office 2016.  Well done.  Free.
Go to JAWS
help
web resources
free webinars
 

From: Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Office 2016

Hi
Thanks, Jason, for reminding me about the keystroke references at the Microsoft web site. I may go find those, download them if I can, and pass them on to my students. I just recently switched to Office 2016 myself but haven't found it to be radically different from 2010.  Tim, what did you mean when you said that you found Office 2016 to be almost unrecognizable? When I first saw Word 2016 I immediately got the Start Screen and wasn't immediately sure how to navigate it.  So, having found the button/icon for "blank document" I activated it and was placed in a fresh document, then pressed Alt+F followed by T to get into Word options. In the General tab I was able to uncheck the box that tells Word to show the Start Screen when I launch it. 
  
My initial impression of the Start Screen is that it may give me access to different types of document templates for flyers, business letters, resumes and more. Is this so, and if anybody out there has experimented with them, have you found them to be accessible? Years ago I tried using a resume template with dismal results.
Like Diane, I'm interested in comphehensive tutorials for Office 2016, particularly some in DAISY format, and/or ones that won't cost me or my students an arm and a leg. 
Thanks,

Tom


Sent from my iPhone 7

On Aug 30, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason@...> wrote:

A few suggestions:

 

Microsoft have very good lists of keystrokes available for all of their Office applications. These can be found on their Web site. Just make sure you locate the references for the correct version of each of the programs (i.e., the Windows 2016 version).

 

You can find some of what you need by navigating and familiarizing yourself with the ribbons. However, some functions are found deep within multiple layers of dialogs. You can try the Alt+q command within Microsoft Word, Outlook and possibly other MS-Office programs, which lets you search the available functionality by entering key words. If this doesn’t help, I often find that it’s faster to perform a Web search using my preferred search engine to find an article describing what I’m looking for than it is to locate it within the complex menu structures of Microsoft Office applications.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of D
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 2016

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group and new to JAWS 18 & Office 2016.  I am needing tutorials or guides to get me up and running on these. I was using 2010 with JAWS 15 so I have a lot to learn J

 

Thanks much for any information you can share with me,

 

Diane


Re: Office 2016

Ward Dudley
 

The JAWS Virtual Ribbons is a good help to some.  Was for me.

Ward


On 8/30/2017 6:59 PM, D wrote:

Ah thanks, these pages are very helpful, I found lots of key commands.

 

Any advice for learning more about windows 10 and JAWS 18?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 6:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 2016

 

A few suggestions:

 

Microsoft have very good lists of keystrokes available for all of their Office applications. These can be found on their Web site. Just make sure you locate the references for the correct version of each of the programs (i.e., the Windows 2016 version).

 

You can find some of what you need by navigating and familiarizing yourself with the ribbons. However, some functions are found deep within multiple layers of dialogs. You can try the Alt+q command within Microsoft Word, Outlook and possibly other MS-Office programs, which lets you search the available functionality by entering key words. If this doesn’t help, I often find that it’s faster to perform a Web search using my preferred search engine to find an article describing what I’m looking for than it is to locate it within the complex menu structures of Microsoft Office applications.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of D
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 2016

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group and new to JAWS 18 & Office 2016.  I am needing tutorials or guides to get me up and running on these. I was using 2010 with JAWS 15 so I have a lot to learn J

 

Thanks much for any information you can share with me,

 

Diane



Re: Office 2016

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Mostly you just need to search alot. :)
On 8/30/2017 5:04 PM, Tom Lange wrote:

Hi
Thanks, Jason, for reminding me about the keystroke references at the Microsoft web site. I may go find those, download them if I can, and pass them on to my students. I just recently switched to Office 2016 myself but haven't found it to be radically different from 2010.  Tim, what did you mean when you said that you found Office 2016 to be almost unrecognizable? When I first saw Word 2016 I immediately got the Start Screen and wasn't immediately sure how to navigate it.  So, having found the button/icon for "blank document" I activated it and was placed in a fresh document, then pressed Alt+F followed by T to get into Word options. In the General tab I was able to uncheck the box that tells Word to show the Start Screen when I launch it. 
  
My initial impression of the Start Screen is that it may give me access to different types of document templates for flyers, business letters, resumes and more. Is this so, and if anybody out there has experimented with them, have you found them to be accessible? Years ago I tried using a resume template with dismal results.
Like Diane, I'm interested in comphehensive tutorials for Office 2016, particularly some in DAISY format, and/or ones that won't cost me or my students an arm and a leg. 
Thanks,

Tom

 
Sent from my iPhone 7

On Aug 30, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason@...> wrote:

A few suggestions:

 

Microsoft have very good lists of keystrokes available for all of their Office applications. These can be found on their Web site. Just make sure you locate the references for the correct version of each of the programs (i.e., the Windows 2016 version).

 

You can find some of what you need by navigating and familiarizing yourself with the ribbons. However, some functions are found deep within multiple layers of dialogs. You can try the Alt+q command within Microsoft Word, Outlook and possibly other MS-Office programs, which lets you search the available functionality by entering key words. If this doesn’t help, I often find that it’s faster to perform a Web search using my preferred search engine to find an article describing what I’m looking for than it is to locate it within the complex menu structures of Microsoft Office applications.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of D
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 2016

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group and new to JAWS 18 & Office 2016.  I am needing tutorials or guides to get me up and running on these. I was using 2010 with JAWS 15 so I have a lot to learn J

 

Thanks much for any information you can share with me,

 

Diane



Re: Office 2016

Tom Lange
 

Hi
Thanks, Jason, for reminding me about the keystroke references at the Microsoft web site. I may go find those, download them if I can, and pass them on to my students. I just recently switched to Office 2016 myself but haven't found it to be radically different from 2010.  Tim, what did you mean when you said that you found Office 2016 to be almost unrecognizable? When I first saw Word 2016 I immediately got the Start Screen and wasn't immediately sure how to navigate it.  So, having found the button/icon for "blank document" I activated it and was placed in a fresh document, then pressed Alt+F followed by T to get into Word options. In the General tab I was able to uncheck the box that tells Word to show the Start Screen when I launch it. 
  
My initial impression of the Start Screen is that it may give me access to different types of document templates for flyers, business letters, resumes and more. Is this so, and if anybody out there has experimented with them, have you found them to be accessible? Years ago I tried using a resume template with dismal results.
Like Diane, I'm interested in comphehensive tutorials for Office 2016, particularly some in DAISY format, and/or ones that won't cost me or my students an arm and a leg. 
Thanks,

Tom

 
Sent from my iPhone 7

On Aug 30, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason@...> wrote:

A few suggestions:

 

Microsoft have very good lists of keystrokes available for all of their Office applications. These can be found on their Web site. Just make sure you locate the references for the correct version of each of the programs (i.e., the Windows 2016 version).

 

You can find some of what you need by navigating and familiarizing yourself with the ribbons. However, some functions are found deep within multiple layers of dialogs. You can try the Alt+q command within Microsoft Word, Outlook and possibly other MS-Office programs, which lets you search the available functionality by entering key words. If this doesn’t help, I often find that it’s faster to perform a Web search using my preferred search engine to find an article describing what I’m looking for than it is to locate it within the complex menu structures of Microsoft Office applications.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of D
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 2016

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group and new to JAWS 18 & Office 2016.  I am needing tutorials or guides to get me up and running on these. I was using 2010 with JAWS 15 so I have a lot to learn J

 

Thanks much for any information you can share with me,

 

Diane


Re: Office 2016

D
 

Ah thanks, these pages are very helpful, I found lots of key commands.

 

Any advice for learning more about windows 10 and JAWS 18?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 6:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 2016

 

A few suggestions:

 

Microsoft have very good lists of keystrokes available for all of their Office applications. These can be found on their Web site. Just make sure you locate the references for the correct version of each of the programs (i.e., the Windows 2016 version).

 

You can find some of what you need by navigating and familiarizing yourself with the ribbons. However, some functions are found deep within multiple layers of dialogs. You can try the Alt+q command within Microsoft Word, Outlook and possibly other MS-Office programs, which lets you search the available functionality by entering key words. If this doesn’t help, I often find that it’s faster to perform a Web search using my preferred search engine to find an article describing what I’m looking for than it is to locate it within the complex menu structures of Microsoft Office applications.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of D
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 2016

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group and new to JAWS 18 & Office 2016.  I am needing tutorials or guides to get me up and running on these. I was using 2010 with JAWS 15 so I have a lot to learn J

 

Thanks much for any information you can share with me,

 

Diane


Re: Office 2016

Jason White
 

A few suggestions:

 

Microsoft have very good lists of keystrokes available for all of their Office applications. These can be found on their Web site. Just make sure you locate the references for the correct version of each of the programs (i.e., the Windows 2016 version).

 

You can find some of what you need by navigating and familiarizing yourself with the ribbons. However, some functions are found deep within multiple layers of dialogs. You can try the Alt+q command within Microsoft Word, Outlook and possibly other MS-Office programs, which lets you search the available functionality by entering key words. If this doesn’t help, I often find that it’s faster to perform a Web search using my preferred search engine to find an article describing what I’m looking for than it is to locate it within the complex menu structures of Microsoft Office applications.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of D
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 2016

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group and new to JAWS 18 & Office 2016.  I am needing tutorials or guides to get me up and running on these. I was using 2010 with JAWS 15 so I have a lot to learn J

 

Thanks much for any information you can share with me,

 

Diane


Re: Office 2016

Tim Ford
 

Hi Diane,

 

What I am suggesting is that your office would function just fine with you on an older version of Office; the file systems are completely compatible.  I would approach your technology folks, since they would be the ones who would need to say this was okay.  I am sure they will, unless there is some issue I am not familiar with.  I would sure ask.  If they approve it, your office will save the cost of an upgrade license.  If you want to chat about this off-list, my email is ttford@....  I have some background in the issues you are facing, and it is often just something that was not thought of when your office decided to upgrade.

 

Windows 10 and JAWS 18 will to be a problem with Office 2010 or 2013.

 

So before you spend a lot of time learning how to use 2016 with JAWS, why not just ask?  I suspect they will be fine and simply never thought to check with you.  For sighted folks, the differences are not as much of an issue since the visual layout is supposed to be somewhat intuitive.  So they do not realize just how much extra effort you will spend, and probably for no benefit at all, other than being able to say you can operate 2016.  That may be a goal in itself, but if not, consider the above.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of D
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 2016

 

Yes, I am using windows 10, Office 2016 and JAWS 18 for work so stuck with these options.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 2016

 

Hi Diane,

 

Do you need to use Office 2016?  I tried 2016 when I upgraded to Windows 10, and found that Word was hardly recognizable in terms of how things worked with JAWS.  I went back to Office 2010, 2013 would also be what you are used to.  Just a thought, since the Word files are totally compatible between those versions, so it would not bother anyone using 2016 with you using 2010 or 2013.  If I am wrong on this, more knowledgeable folks on this list will probably have the answer.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of D
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 2016

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group and new to JAWS 18 & Office 2016.  I am needing tutorials or guides to get me up and running on these. I was using 2010 with JAWS 15 so I have a lot to learn J

 

Thanks much for any information you can share with me,

 

Diane


Re: Invisible menu?

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Happens all the time. Just one of the many quirks with Jaws and windows 10.
On 8/30/2017 2:07 PM, rickp47@... wrote:

When hitting alt tab, I hear JAWS saying "leaving menus" but there is no menu open. Does anyone else hear this? I'm using JAWS 18 and IE 11



Invisible menu?

rickp47@...
 

When hitting alt tab, I hear JAWS saying "leaving menus" but there is no menu open. Does anyone else hear this? I'm using JAWS 18 and IE 11


Re: Office 2016

D
 

Yes, I am using windows 10, Office 2016 and JAWS 18 for work so stuck with these options.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 2016

 

Hi Diane,

 

Do you need to use Office 2016?  I tried 2016 when I upgraded to Windows 10, and found that Word was hardly recognizable in terms of how things worked with JAWS.  I went back to Office 2010, 2013 would also be what you are used to.  Just a thought, since the Word files are totally compatible between those versions, so it would not bother anyone using 2016 with you using 2010 or 2013.  If I am wrong on this, more knowledgeable folks on this list will probably have the answer.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of D
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 2016

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group and new to JAWS 18 & Office 2016.  I am needing tutorials or guides to get me up and running on these. I was using 2010 with JAWS 15 so I have a lot to learn J

 

Thanks much for any information you can share with me,

 

Diane


Re: Office 2016

Tim Ford
 

Hi Diane,

 

Do you need to use Office 2016?  I tried 2016 when I upgraded to Windows 10, and found that Word was hardly recognizable in terms of how things worked with JAWS.  I went back to Office 2010, 2013 would also be what you are used to.  Just a thought, since the Word files are totally compatible between those versions, so it would not bother anyone using 2016 with you using 2010 or 2013.  If I am wrong on this, more knowledgeable folks on this list will probably have the answer.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of D
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 2016

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group and new to JAWS 18 & Office 2016.  I am needing tutorials or guides to get me up and running on these. I was using 2010 with JAWS 15 so I have a lot to learn J

 

Thanks much for any information you can share with me,

 

Diane


Office 2016

D
 

Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group and new to JAWS 18 & Office 2016.  I am needing tutorials or guides to get me up and running on these. I was using 2010 with JAWS 15 so I have a lot to learn J

 

Thanks much for any information you can share with me,

 

Diane


Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
 

David,

 

I’m using the JAWS  virtual ribbons but did find where you were talking about. Seems to take one to the same place regardless if in Word, excel, etc. Anyway, mine is set to automatically update so I guess anytime there is one pushed out I’ll get it.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 2:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

Hello;

To check whether there’s update for office 2016,

1, open MSWord,

 

2, now, press alt+f=file,

 

3, d=account,

 

4, r=update.

 

So the keystrokes should be,

Alt+f/d/r.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

Ashley,

 

Yes, I asked too. When I go to my update history, last entry is from 8/15

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

Not finding where that update might’ve taken place. No big deal, though; just wanted to know where you guys found that out.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: george b
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

There was a office 2016 update yesterday morning

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: August 30, 2017 8:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

Hello,

 

I would love to hear people's feedback regarding the Excel issues of late.

Just now I wanted to catch up on some work where I have to use Excel. I think most of us know how Excel has been crashing lately especially on Windows 7 PC's with Jaws 18. Jaws 16 seemed to be the only work-around for now for Windows 7. On my Windows 10 computers Excel seemed to be fine with Jaws 18.

I opened Excel on my Windows 10 desktop and noticed that a bunch of dates which I had set to be formatted so they include the day of the week, e.g. Monday, August 28, 2017, Tuesday, August 29, 2017 etc. only displayed as August 28, 2017, August 29, 2017 etc. I pressed Control+1 and looked at the date formats available and to my amazement did not see an option any more to include the week day.

I then opened the same Excel file on my Windows 7 computer expecting it to crash as soon as I tried to actually do anything, in any case, the date at the very top of my sheet showed up as "Wednesday, August 30, 2017.

I pressed Control+Page Up to go back a sheet again expecting it to crash, but thought I try it and to my surprise it went to Tuesday, August 29, 2017 and Excel did not crash.

I opened a new Excel file, typed in a bunch of values in 3 or 4 fields, added them up and everything was fine.

I wonder if Microsoft pushed out an update which fixes the issue? Not sure how to check when the last Office update was, but needless to say I am delighted that I apparently can work in my Excel file again on my Windows 7 PC which also has my Sage 50 accounting software on it.

Accessibility in so many ways is making big forward strides, but in other ways it's the opposite. Yesterday I finally finished setting up a new Windows 10 PC at my retail store and finally managed to get it to see the other Windows 7 computers on the network and to let me save to my main file storage drive on one of these Windows 7 PC's. Then I installed Sage 50 on that PC only to find out I can't use this accounting package which I have been using since it was Bedford Accounting for DOS back in 1991. On my Windows 7 PC's I can work with it efficiently and quickly, but I have to use the Jaws cursor for a number of things. In Windows 10 even the main program screen where you select whether you want to use the General ledger, do bank reconciliation, set up a supplier, use the purchases or payments journal etc. does not read anything. I can still get around that because I know I have to tab 5 times after it opens to get to the General journal, 6 times for reconciliation, 8 times for Purchases etc. Unfortunately when I enter an invoice everything works great until I want to check the total which I have to do using the Jaws cursor. It reads almost nothing and definitely not what I need it to read. Also, sometimes after I enter an invoice I might be off by a cent or two due to rounding errors with tax calculations and I then have to go to the tax amount for one of the items I am entering which is only possible with the Jaws cursor, double click it and then I can manually change it. No such luck on Windows 10 and while I was hoping to soon upgrade all my computers to Windows 10 at work right now I just don't know what I should do. Well, I guess I do know, I can't upgrade if I can't use this accounting software and I was not planning to spend hundreds and hundreds of Dollars right now to change to something like Quick Books and buy the expensive scripts for it. Those last few weeks have been a real mess. Anyways, I just hope my apparent success using Excel is not some odd thing and that soon it will go back to being what it was for the last two weeks.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 


Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

david
 

Hello;

To check whether there’s update for office 2016,

1, open MSWord,

 

2, now, press alt+f=file,

 

3, d=account,

 

4, r=update.

 

So the keystrokes should be,

Alt+f/d/r.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

Ashley,

 

Yes, I asked too. When I go to my update history, last entry is from 8/15

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

Not finding where that update might’ve taken place. No big deal, though; just wanted to know where you guys found that out.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: george b
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

There was a office 2016 update yesterday morning

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: August 30, 2017 8:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

Hello,

 

I would love to hear people's feedback regarding the Excel issues of late.

Just now I wanted to catch up on some work where I have to use Excel. I think most of us know how Excel has been crashing lately especially on Windows 7 PC's with Jaws 18. Jaws 16 seemed to be the only work-around for now for Windows 7. On my Windows 10 computers Excel seemed to be fine with Jaws 18.

I opened Excel on my Windows 10 desktop and noticed that a bunch of dates which I had set to be formatted so they include the day of the week, e.g. Monday, August 28, 2017, Tuesday, August 29, 2017 etc. only displayed as August 28, 2017, August 29, 2017 etc. I pressed Control+1 and looked at the date formats available and to my amazement did not see an option any more to include the week day.

I then opened the same Excel file on my Windows 7 computer expecting it to crash as soon as I tried to actually do anything, in any case, the date at the very top of my sheet showed up as "Wednesday, August 30, 2017.

I pressed Control+Page Up to go back a sheet again expecting it to crash, but thought I try it and to my surprise it went to Tuesday, August 29, 2017 and Excel did not crash.

I opened a new Excel file, typed in a bunch of values in 3 or 4 fields, added them up and everything was fine.

I wonder if Microsoft pushed out an update which fixes the issue? Not sure how to check when the last Office update was, but needless to say I am delighted that I apparently can work in my Excel file again on my Windows 7 PC which also has my Sage 50 accounting software on it.

Accessibility in so many ways is making big forward strides, but in other ways it's the opposite. Yesterday I finally finished setting up a new Windows 10 PC at my retail store and finally managed to get it to see the other Windows 7 computers on the network and to let me save to my main file storage drive on one of these Windows 7 PC's. Then I installed Sage 50 on that PC only to find out I can't use this accounting package which I have been using since it was Bedford Accounting for DOS back in 1991. On my Windows 7 PC's I can work with it efficiently and quickly, but I have to use the Jaws cursor for a number of things. In Windows 10 even the main program screen where you select whether you want to use the General ledger, do bank reconciliation, set up a supplier, use the purchases or payments journal etc. does not read anything. I can still get around that because I know I have to tab 5 times after it opens to get to the General journal, 6 times for reconciliation, 8 times for Purchases etc. Unfortunately when I enter an invoice everything works great until I want to check the total which I have to do using the Jaws cursor. It reads almost nothing and definitely not what I need it to read. Also, sometimes after I enter an invoice I might be off by a cent or two due to rounding errors with tax calculations and I then have to go to the tax amount for one of the items I am entering which is only possible with the Jaws cursor, double click it and then I can manually change it. No such luck on Windows 10 and while I was hoping to soon upgrade all my computers to Windows 10 at work right now I just don't know what I should do. Well, I guess I do know, I can't upgrade if I can't use this accounting software and I was not planning to spend hundreds and hundreds of Dollars right now to change to something like Quick Books and buy the expensive scripts for it. Those last few weeks have been a real mess. Anyways, I just hope my apparent success using Excel is not some odd thing and that soon it will go back to being what it was for the last two weeks.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 


Re: Questions on Kodi 17.4.

ratshtron
 

hmmm, where one get a copy of 16.1? thanks.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 8/29/2017 04:08 PM, Chris said:
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Its the same here with 17.4 crashes still

Went back to 16.1 as that still works ok

Maybe when the addon is updated it will work possibly???


From: <mailto:hshaneclark@...>Shane clark
Sent: 29 August 2017 21:49
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Questions on Kodi 17.4.

Hello everyone,

Would anyone happen to possibly know, if Kodi 17.4 is accessible with
Windows 10 and the screen reader that comes with Kodi? I know it's
accessible with Windows 10, but when I try to install 17.3 and use it with
the Kodi screen reader, every time the screen reader begin speaking, Kodi
crashed. So I was just wondering if anybody may have already installed the
latest version of Kodi, and tried it out?

Thanks, Shane.

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Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
 

Ashley,

 

Yes, I asked too. When I go to my update history, last entry is from 8/15

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

Not finding where that update might’ve taken place. No big deal, though; just wanted to know where you guys found that out.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: george b
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

There was a office 2016 update yesterday morning

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: August 30, 2017 8:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

Hello,

 

I would love to hear people's feedback regarding the Excel issues of late.

Just now I wanted to catch up on some work where I have to use Excel. I think most of us know how Excel has been crashing lately especially on Windows 7 PC's with Jaws 18. Jaws 16 seemed to be the only work-around for now for Windows 7. On my Windows 10 computers Excel seemed to be fine with Jaws 18.

I opened Excel on my Windows 10 desktop and noticed that a bunch of dates which I had set to be formatted so they include the day of the week, e.g. Monday, August 28, 2017, Tuesday, August 29, 2017 etc. only displayed as August 28, 2017, August 29, 2017 etc. I pressed Control+1 and looked at the date formats available and to my amazement did not see an option any more to include the week day.

I then opened the same Excel file on my Windows 7 computer expecting it to crash as soon as I tried to actually do anything, in any case, the date at the very top of my sheet showed up as "Wednesday, August 30, 2017.

I pressed Control+Page Up to go back a sheet again expecting it to crash, but thought I try it and to my surprise it went to Tuesday, August 29, 2017 and Excel did not crash.

I opened a new Excel file, typed in a bunch of values in 3 or 4 fields, added them up and everything was fine.

I wonder if Microsoft pushed out an update which fixes the issue? Not sure how to check when the last Office update was, but needless to say I am delighted that I apparently can work in my Excel file again on my Windows 7 PC which also has my Sage 50 accounting software on it.

Accessibility in so many ways is making big forward strides, but in other ways it's the opposite. Yesterday I finally finished setting up a new Windows 10 PC at my retail store and finally managed to get it to see the other Windows 7 computers on the network and to let me save to my main file storage drive on one of these Windows 7 PC's. Then I installed Sage 50 on that PC only to find out I can't use this accounting package which I have been using since it was Bedford Accounting for DOS back in 1991. On my Windows 7 PC's I can work with it efficiently and quickly, but I have to use the Jaws cursor for a number of things. In Windows 10 even the main program screen where you select whether you want to use the General ledger, do bank reconciliation, set up a supplier, use the purchases or payments journal etc. does not read anything. I can still get around that because I know I have to tab 5 times after it opens to get to the General journal, 6 times for reconciliation, 8 times for Purchases etc. Unfortunately when I enter an invoice everything works great until I want to check the total which I have to do using the Jaws cursor. It reads almost nothing and definitely not what I need it to read. Also, sometimes after I enter an invoice I might be off by a cent or two due to rounding errors with tax calculations and I then have to go to the tax amount for one of the items I am entering which is only possible with the Jaws cursor, double click it and then I can manually change it. No such luck on Windows 10 and while I was hoping to soon upgrade all my computers to Windows 10 at work right now I just don't know what I should do. Well, I guess I do know, I can't upgrade if I can't use this accounting software and I was not planning to spend hundreds and hundreds of Dollars right now to change to something like Quick Books and buy the expensive scripts for it. Those last few weeks have been a real mess. Anyways, I just hope my apparent success using Excel is not some odd thing and that soon it will go back to being what it was for the last two weeks.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 


Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
 

Great to hear, let’s hope something is fixed and not just a fluke. So far, so good hear today too with 1703 and 2016

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

Hello,

 

I would love to hear people's feedback regarding the Excel issues of late.

Just now I wanted to catch up on some work where I have to use Excel. I think most of us know how Excel has been crashing lately especially on Windows 7 PC's with Jaws 18. Jaws 16 seemed to be the only work-around for now for Windows 7. On my Windows 10 computers Excel seemed to be fine with Jaws 18.

I opened Excel on my Windows 10 desktop and noticed that a bunch of dates which I had set to be formatted so they include the day of the week, e.g. Monday, August 28, 2017, Tuesday, August 29, 2017 etc. only displayed as August 28, 2017, August 29, 2017 etc. I pressed Control+1 and looked at the date formats available and to my amazement did not see an option any more to include the week day.

I then opened the same Excel file on my Windows 7 computer expecting it to crash as soon as I tried to actually do anything, in any case, the date at the very top of my sheet showed up as "Wednesday, August 30, 2017.

I pressed Control+Page Up to go back a sheet again expecting it to crash, but thought I try it and to my surprise it went to Tuesday, August 29, 2017 and Excel did not crash.

I opened a new Excel file, typed in a bunch of values in 3 or 4 fields, added them up and everything was fine.

I wonder if Microsoft pushed out an update which fixes the issue? Not sure how to check when the last Office update was, but needless to say I am delighted that I apparently can work in my Excel file again on my Windows 7 PC which also has my Sage 50 accounting software on it.

Accessibility in so many ways is making big forward strides, but in other ways it's the opposite. Yesterday I finally finished setting up a new Windows 10 PC at my retail store and finally managed to get it to see the other Windows 7 computers on the network and to let me save to my main file storage drive on one of these Windows 7 PC's. Then I installed Sage 50 on that PC only to find out I can't use this accounting package which I have been using since it was Bedford Accounting for DOS back in 1991. On my Windows 7 PC's I can work with it efficiently and quickly, but I have to use the Jaws cursor for a number of things. In Windows 10 even the main program screen where you select whether you want to use the General ledger, do bank reconciliation, set up a supplier, use the purchases or payments journal etc. does not read anything. I can still get around that because I know I have to tab 5 times after it opens to get to the General journal, 6 times for reconciliation, 8 times for Purchases etc. Unfortunately when I enter an invoice everything works great until I want to check the total which I have to do using the Jaws cursor. It reads almost nothing and definitely not what I need it to read. Also, sometimes after I enter an invoice I might be off by a cent or two due to rounding errors with tax calculations and I then have to go to the tax amount for one of the items I am entering which is only possible with the Jaws cursor, double click it and then I can manually change it. No such luck on Windows 10 and while I was hoping to soon upgrade all my computers to Windows 10 at work right now I just don't know what I should do. Well, I guess I do know, I can't upgrade if I can't use this accounting software and I was not planning to spend hundreds and hundreds of Dollars right now to change to something like Quick Books and buy the expensive scripts for it. Those last few weeks have been a real mess. Anyways, I just hope my apparent success using Excel is not some odd thing and that soon it will go back to being what it was for the last two weeks.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 


Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Not finding where that update might’ve taken place. No big deal, though; just wanted to know where you guys found that out.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: george b
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

There was a office 2016 update yesterday morning

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: August 30, 2017 8:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel 2016 is no longer crashing

 

Hello,

 

I would love to hear people's feedback regarding the Excel issues of late.

Just now I wanted to catch up on some work where I have to use Excel. I think most of us know how Excel has been crashing lately especially on Windows 7 PC's with Jaws 18. Jaws 16 seemed to be the only work-around for now for Windows 7. On my Windows 10 computers Excel seemed to be fine with Jaws 18.

I opened Excel on my Windows 10 desktop and noticed that a bunch of dates which I had set to be formatted so they include the day of the week, e.g. Monday, August 28, 2017, Tuesday, August 29, 2017 etc. only displayed as August 28, 2017, August 29, 2017 etc. I pressed Control+1 and looked at the date formats available and to my amazement did not see an option any more to include the week day.

I then opened the same Excel file on my Windows 7 computer expecting it to crash as soon as I tried to actually do anything, in any case, the date at the very top of my sheet showed up as "Wednesday, August 30, 2017.

I pressed Control+Page Up to go back a sheet again expecting it to crash, but thought I try it and to my surprise it went to Tuesday, August 29, 2017 and Excel did not crash.

I opened a new Excel file, typed in a bunch of values in 3 or 4 fields, added them up and everything was fine.

I wonder if Microsoft pushed out an update which fixes the issue? Not sure how to check when the last Office update was, but needless to say I am delighted that I apparently can work in my Excel file again on my Windows 7 PC which also has my Sage 50 accounting software on it.

Accessibility in so many ways is making big forward strides, but in other ways it's the opposite. Yesterday I finally finished setting up a new Windows 10 PC at my retail store and finally managed to get it to see the other Windows 7 computers on the network and to let me save to my main file storage drive on one of these Windows 7 PC's. Then I installed Sage 50 on that PC only to find out I can't use this accounting package which I have been using since it was Bedford Accounting for DOS back in 1991. On my Windows 7 PC's I can work with it efficiently and quickly, but I have to use the Jaws cursor for a number of things. In Windows 10 even the main program screen where you select whether you want to use the General ledger, do bank reconciliation, set up a supplier, use the purchases or payments journal etc. does not read anything. I can still get around that because I know I have to tab 5 times after it opens to get to the General journal, 6 times for reconciliation, 8 times for Purchases etc. Unfortunately when I enter an invoice everything works great until I want to check the total which I have to do using the Jaws cursor. It reads almost nothing and definitely not what I need it to read. Also, sometimes after I enter an invoice I might be off by a cent or two due to rounding errors with tax calculations and I then have to go to the tax amount for one of the items I am entering which is only possible with the Jaws cursor, double click it and then I can manually change it. No such luck on Windows 10 and while I was hoping to soon upgrade all my computers to Windows 10 at work right now I just don't know what I should do. Well, I guess I do know, I can't upgrade if I can't use this accounting software and I was not planning to spend hundreds and hundreds of Dollars right now to change to something like Quick Books and buy the expensive scripts for it. Those last few weeks have been a real mess. Anyways, I just hope my apparent success using Excel is not some odd thing and that soon it will go back to being what it was for the last two weeks.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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