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Re: Messages with bulk in the subject line

Dave...
 

Glenn,

First, you need to change the subject line yourself if you want to change
the thread.
Second, the [bulk] is automatically inserted by various ISP spam tracking
engines; we do not do it ourselves.
Thirdly, you have been on this list long enough to have seen at least one
solution on how to set the JAWS dictionary to skip over pronouncing the
[bulk].
Fourthly you are welcome to strip [bulk] out of any messages you send, which
you did not do when you replied -- you may look below in the thread and
you'll see evidence of that.

Sorry, Charlie!

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Beers" <blindtaz@gvii.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 01:12
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad


I thought that we wher all ask very politely to take the "bulk" out of our
messages, it looks like we are starting down that road again.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of BHAVESH
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

does anyone know how to disable the touchpad in dell vostro 1440?

On 11/23/11, Kimsan <kimsansong@aol.com> wrote:
Lol, David, I can't seem to disable it via the CTRL panel so fn f five
works for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

Hello there;
Well, I have know idea which function keystroke I use to turn off the
touchpad, So, I just disabled the dam thing.
I'm using a dell vostro 1310.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

Kimsan,

Cool. Had no idea the Fn + F5 existed. I've just experimented with it
and on my E6250 it works to disable/enable one, other, or both.
Totally cool. Thank your wife for helping out on this.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 16:06
Subject: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad


Ok, I just or my wife just figured it out. Lol, it's the fn key with
the function key five.

I still want my hp back, though. Now we can get back to jaws. lol
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: dell machine touch pad

Hello there;

Look in your system tray and see if you have, Synaptics Pointing
Device If so, Enter on properties, Shift tab to buttons tab, Right
arrow to, device settings, Now tab and enter on disable.

Another way is to;
From the start menu edit field,
Type in mouse,
Now enter on mouse,
You actually will probably see,
Mouse,
Change how your mouse works
Control the computer without the mouse or keyboard So choose mouse,
And the steps above apply.

I have the mouse pad disabled,
However, I do have an entrie in the system tray just in case I need
some sighted assistance, I can activate the mouse pad.

Hope this helps.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:17 PM
To: jfw
Subject: dell machine touch pad

I got this new del latitude machine. Does anyone know how to disable
the touch pad via a keystroke instead of the control panel route?

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello Tom;

I assume you know this,
However, I'll tell you this just in case,
If you wish to navigate to other folders in WLM,
Ctrl+y,
Now you can arrow to the folder and press enter.
Unfortunately, we can't letter navigate.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

Well, I appreciate all of this information, and yes, it was very helpful as
always.

I will consider joining your yahoo list, but before I do that, I may have to
figure out which list to drop because I get so many e-mails every day.

I may just call Freedom Scientific, and ask them about my issues with
Windows Live Mail, just to have them here my concerns, and to add my voice
to those who are having problems.

I'll keep in touch as I struggle along here.

Thanks again ,David.

Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics -
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: [Bulk] dell machine touch pad

Glenn Beers
 

I thought that we wher all ask very politely to take the "bulk" out of our
messages, it looks like we are starting down that road again.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of BHAVESH
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

does anyone know how to disable the touchpad in dell vostro 1440?

On 11/23/11, Kimsan <kimsansong@aol.com> wrote:
Lol, David, I can't seem to disable it via the CTRL panel so fn f five
works for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

Hello there;
Well, I have know idea which function keystroke I use to turn off the
touchpad, So, I just disabled the dam thing.
I'm using a dell vostro 1310.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

Kimsan,

Cool. Had no idea the Fn + F5 existed. I've just experimented with it
and on my E6250 it works to disable/enable one, other, or both.
Totally cool. Thank your wife for helping out on this.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 16:06
Subject: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad


Ok, I just or my wife just figured it out. Lol, it's the fn key with
the function key five.

I still want my hp back, though. Now we can get back to jaws. lol
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: dell machine touch pad

Hello there;

Look in your system tray and see if you have, Synaptics Pointing
Device If so, Enter on properties, Shift tab to buttons tab, Right
arrow to, device settings, Now tab and enter on disable.

Another way is to;
From the start menu edit field,
Type in mouse,
Now enter on mouse,
You actually will probably see,
Mouse,
Change how your mouse works
Control the computer without the mouse or keyboard So choose mouse,
And the steps above apply.

I have the mouse pad disabled,
However, I do have an entrie in the system tray just in case I need
some sighted assistance, I can activate the mouse pad.

Hope this helps.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:17 PM
To: jfw
Subject: dell machine touch pad

I got this new del latitude machine. Does anyone know how to disable
the touch pad via a keystroke instead of the control panel route?

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Re: how do I get the words send mail link to appear in a message where Ihave written an email address.

Adrian Spratt
 

I didn't receive the original query. I no longer have Outlook Express, but I
can think of three areas to look into:

1. to make sure an email address is set up as such in the main message
field, I type a return immediately before and immediately after. No spaces,
no punctuation.

2. See if any relevant Quick Settings, the new name for the insert-v
options, have changed. I'm assuming you merged settings from the previous
version.

3. With a new message open and focus placed inside it, go to tools with
alt-t, then options with o. Tab through the various options. It's possible
that HTML has changed to plain text. I believe you'd need HTML for email and
Internet addresses to be formatted the way you want.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Cindy Handel
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: how do I get the words send mail link to appear in a message
where Ihave written an email address.

I just tried it with JAWS 13, and it works. Just write the email address in
the message body. Then, when you send it to yourself and open the email,
the address should say "send mail link".

Cindy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deb and Cori" <debsoundandscent@earthlink.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:10 PM
Subject: how do I get the words send mail link to appear in a message where
Ihave written an email address.


I used to be able to put email addresses in a message, send it to me, and go
to add to addressbook and would be able to add it easily that way.
I can not seem to do that after loading jaws 13.
I am using outlook express.
Deb


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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Tom Behler
 

David:

Well, I appreciate all of this information, and yes, it was very helpful as always.

I will consider joining your yahoo list, but before I do that, I may have to figure out which list to drop because I get so many e-mails every day.

I may just call Freedom Scientific, and ask them about my issues with Windows Live Mail, just to have them here my concerns, and to add my voice to those who are having problems.

I'll keep in touch as I struggle along here.

Thanks again ,David.

Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM,
FS could really rectify this problem by labeling the graphics,
And, providing some scripts which would alleviate the problem folks are
having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some,
I really think we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the
message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada,
I try to learn the most used email clients, outlook,
WLM,
I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients,
If anyone wishes to join you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which
indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics -
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled
graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur before the
senders
name. What you will need to determine is,
what is the number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message
in
the list which is unread, that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number
when reading it;
press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places
the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left arrow till
you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: how do I get the words send mail link to appear in a message where Ihave written an email address.

Cindy
 

I just tried it with JAWS 13, and it works. Just write the email address in
the message body. Then, when you send it to yourself and open the email,
the address should say "send mail link".

Cindy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Deb and Cori" <debsoundandscent@earthlink.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:10 PM
Subject: how do I get the words send mail link to appear in a message where
Ihave written an email address.


I used to be able to put email addresses in a message, send it to me, and go
to add to addressbook and would be able to add it easily that way.
I can not seem to do that after loading jaws 13.
I am using outlook express.
Deb


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how do I get the words send mail link to appear in a message where I have written an email address.

Deb and the girls
 

I used to be able to put email addresses in a message, send it to me, and go to add to addressbook and would be able to add it easily that way.
I can not seem to do that after loading jaws 13.
I am using outlook express.
Deb


Re: Family Tree Maker

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

----------------------------------------Tom, I never tried to import a ged so I don't know about that issue. There is one view where you need to use the JAWS cursor but it is not one where you enter info if my memory serves me correctly. As for reports, have no trouble printing... but then, I have the full version.
If you do purchase it, I would suggest you also purchase the manual as a download. It is very deatailed and helpful.

Good luck,
Sandy
From: "tcivi31" <tcivi31@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:37 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker

Sandy, I down loaded the basic version and installed it and then created a GED file from my current program, :Roots Magic" and imported it into "Ancestral Quest". Got a list of 85 errors that I have to track down. Still seems as though you have to use the Jaws cursor quite a bit. I do see they have some tutorials, Video though. Don't see a way of printing any of the reports, guess I would have to purchase the full version. Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker


Tom,

I don't use FTM because of that problem but you might want to try the list at blind-genealogists@rootsweb.com.
I switched to Ancestral Quest which is completely accessible with JAWS.

Sandy


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From: "tcivi31" <tcivi31@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:46 AM
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Family Tree Maker

Are there any list members using Jaws 12 or 13 with recent versions of Family Tree Maker? I am considering FTM 2012 but hesitate because have never had much luck using FTM in the past. Tom

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Re: Family Tree Maker

T. Civitello
 

Sandy, I down loaded the basic version and installed it and then created a GED file from my current program, :Roots Magic" and imported it into "Ancestral Quest". Got a list of 85 errors that I have to track down. Still seems as though you have to use the Jaws cursor quite a bit. I do see they have some tutorials, Video though. Don't see a way of printing any of the reports, guess I would have to purchase the full version. Tom

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker


Tom,

I don't use FTM because of that problem but you might want to try the list at blind-genealogists@rootsweb.com.
I switched to Ancestral Quest which is completely accessible with JAWS.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
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Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:46 AM
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Family Tree Maker

Are there any list members using Jaws 12 or 13 with recent versions of Family Tree Maker? I am considering FTM 2012 but hesitate because have never had much luck using FTM in the past. Tom

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello Roger;

Have you tried:

http://support.microsoft.com/fixit/

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Are all your windows updates up to date along with Java, Flash etc?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:54 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

As far as I can tell I did the repair as you instructed. It then counted off
percentages until it reached 100 percent and then gave me the option of
restarting now or later. I clicked restart now and tried WLM when my
computer restarted. The same thing happened. It said that the program had to
close and gave me a button to click so that it could check on line for a
solution. I clicked that and it just closed. As for the link you provided,
that was where I downloaded and reinstalled the new copy when I uninstalled
it. By the way, I just thought of something. Actually, when it finished
counting off the percentages and gave me the option of restarting now or
later I clicked restart now, but nothing happened, at least not immediately.
So I went to the start menu by pressing control + escape and restarted by
using the restart utility there. Would that have an effect?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 12:53 pm
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi roger;

Did you try to do the repair as I suggested?

You can get a copy of the Windows live essentials from here:

http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:18 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I don't know if I have the WLM executable or not. Where would I find it if I
do?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 11:19 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello there;

Do you have the WLM excecutable?
If so, you may want to run it,
This would most likely repair what ever went wrong?

If you need the latest, let me know.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:11 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I am tempted to subscribe to that list, but I am drowning in email as it is
and I am having a particularly difficult time reading it right now anyway.
That is, I am reading on the web. My WLM is completely crashed. When I try
to open it I just get a notice that it has stopped working and I am given
abutton to click so that it can close and search for a solution on line.
When I do that it just closes. I do not want to mess with the registry.
I do
not have enough technical knowledge to do so and those instructions largely
did not even make sense to me because of my ignorance. If anyone would ruin
his system by messing with the registry I would be one of the most likely to
do so. I have tried uninstalling my WLM and reinstalling it and that did not
work. So, short of refiguring my registry, is there any way that any of you
can suggest to just get my WLM working again?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in
jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics
-
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler
dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Java

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi. The thread below brings up another question no one could answer before,
so I'll try again.

Until the most recent version of Java, you had to reinstall Java Access
Bridge after each Java update. Now a new version of Access Bridge has been
released, and it is incredibly time-consuming to install. It's no longer a
question of clicking on an executable file. Now you must open the folder
and copy files to various parts of your system.

Oracle/sun's page on Access Bridge does not address this point. Since it
doesn't, perhaps I should infer that constant reinstallation is no longer
necessary. However, it would diverge from Sun's previous instructions for
Access Bridge.

Does anyone know the answer?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Are all your windows updates up to date along with Java, Flash etc?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:54 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

As far as I can tell I did the repair as you instructed. It then counted off
percentages until it reached 100 percent and then gave me the option of
restarting now or later. I clicked restart now and tried WLM when my
computer restarted. The same thing happened. It said that the program had to
close and gave me a button to click so that it could check on line for a
solution. I clicked that and it just closed. As for the link you provided,
that was where I downloaded and reinstalled the new copy when I uninstalled
it. By the way, I just thought of something. Actually, when it finished
counting off the percentages and gave me the option of restarting now or
later I clicked restart now, but nothing happened, at least not immediately.
So I went to the start menu by pressing control + escape and restarted by
using the restart utility there. Would that have an effect?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 12:53 pm
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi roger;

Did you try to do the repair as I suggested?

You can get a copy of the Windows live essentials from here:

http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:18 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I don't know if I have the WLM executable or not. Where would I find it if I
do?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 11:19 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello there;

Do you have the WLM excecutable?
If so, you may want to run it,
This would most likely repair what ever went wrong?

If you need the latest, let me know.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:11 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I am tempted to subscribe to that list, but I am drowning in email as it is
and I am having a particularly difficult time reading it right now anyway.
That is, I am reading on the web. My WLM is completely crashed. When I try
to open it I just get a notice that it has stopped working and I am given
abutton to click so that it can close and search for a solution on line.
When I do that it just closes. I do not want to mess with the registry.
I do
not have enough technical knowledge to do so and those instructions largely
did not even make sense to me because of my ignorance. If anyone would ruin
his system by messing with the registry I would be one of the most likely to
do so. I have tried uninstalling my WLM and reinstalling it and that did not
work. So, short of refiguring my registry, is there any way that any of you
can suggest to just get my WLM working again?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in
jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics
-
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler
dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Are all your windows updates up to date along with Java, Flash etc?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: rogerbailey81@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:54 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

As far as I can tell I did the repair as you instructed. It then counted off percentages until it reached 100 percent and then gave me the option of restarting now or later. I clicked restart now and tried WLM when my computer restarted. The same thing happened. It said that the program had to close and gave me a button to click so that it could check on line for a solution. I clicked that and it just closed. As for the link you provided, that was where I downloaded and reinstalled the new copy when I uninstalled it. By the way, I just thought of something. Actually, when it finished counting off the percentages and gave me the option of restarting now or later I clicked restart now, but nothing happened, at least not immediately. So I went to the start menu by pressing control + escape and restarted by using the restart utility there. Would that have an effect?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 12:53 pm
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi roger;

Did you try to do the repair as I suggested?

You can get a copy of the Windows live essentials from here:

http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:18 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I don't know if I have the WLM executable or not. Where would I find it if I
do?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 11:19 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello there;

Do you have the WLM excecutable?
If so, you may want to run it,
This would most likely repair what ever went wrong?

If you need the latest, let me know.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
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On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:11 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I am tempted to subscribe to that list, but I am drowning in email as it is
and I am having a particularly difficult time reading it right now anyway.
That is, I am reading on the web. My WLM is completely crashed. When I try
to open it I just get a notice that it has stopped working and I am given
abutton to click so that it can close and search for a solution on line.
When I do that it just closes. I do not want to mess with the registry.
I do
not have enough technical knowledge to do so and those instructions largely
did not even make sense to me because of my ignorance. If anyone would ruin
his system by messing with the registry I would be one of the most likely to
do so. I have tried uninstalling my WLM and reinstalling it and that did not
work. So, short of refiguring my registry, is there any way that any of you
can suggest to just get my WLM working again?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in
jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics
-
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler
dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello Roger;
Okay,
I can send you a shorter version of the setup for windows mail,
You need to follow the steps, and yes,
No need to venture into the registry,
As I said, the .reg files will do this for you.

In fact you can go to:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14125880/WinMail.exe

all the files are there,
and there is a text file for your reading.
Note, when you press enter on the WinMail.exe,
It will unzip and place files on the C-drive,
And the folder will be called,
WinMail.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:52 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I have already deleted that set of instructions because it was long and
complicated and I did not understand most of it. The dire warnings that were
included in it scared me off too. Are you saying that those instructions did
not include going into the registry or are you saying that adding that file
is an alternative to the instructions? Do you mean that I can just download
the file and install it?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 11:41 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi Roger;
Further to the windows mail registry tweak; You don't have to go into the
registry at all.
The files are provided,
You simplely enter on a particular,
File,
For example;

Add some missing entries to the registry. Click on the two files "Set
WinMailDefault.reg" and "WinMailEdit.reg" will take care of this for you.
Each time you add entries to the registry from a .reg file, you will receive
a warning which makes sure that you trust the source and a message
asking"Are you sure you want to continue?". Assuming that you do in fact
trust the source and wish to complete this procedure, make sure to select
the "Yes" button.

Hope this is helpful and explains a little more.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi Roger;

Another thing you can do is;
If your using windows 7 for example;

Go into control panel,
P=programs and features,
W=windows live essentials2011,
Now press applications key, and enter on uninstall/change button, You should
find a button, Repair all Windows Live programs

Try this.

This should fix your current problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:11 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I am tempted to subscribe to that list, but I am drowning in email as it is
and I am having a particularly difficult time reading it right now anyway.
That is, I am reading on the web. My WLM is completely crashed. When I try
to open it I just get a notice that it has stopped working and I am given
abutton to click so that it can close and search for a solution on line.
When I do that it just closes. I do not want to mess with the registry.
I do
not have enough technical knowledge to do so and those instructions largely
did not even make sense to me because of my ignorance. If anyone would ruin
his system by messing with the registry I would be one of the most likely to
do so. I have tried uninstalling my WLM and reinstalling it and that did not
work. So, short of refiguring my registry, is there any way that any of you
can suggest to just get my WLM working again?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in
jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics
-
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler
dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: Family Tree Maker

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

David, the website is

ancquest.com

I have been really pleased with it.

Good luck
Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Hardingham" <jarhead55@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:39 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker

Hi Sandy,

Could you send me the web address for the program you prefer?

I cannot seem for some reason to find it. Only the e mail address.
Thanks,

David

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From: sandy stegmayer Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:50 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker
Tom,

I don't use FTM because of that problem but you might want to try the list at blind-genealogists@rootsweb.com.
I switched to Ancestral Quest which is completely accessible with JAWS.

Sandy


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From: "tcivi31" <tcivi31@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:46 AM
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Family Tree Maker

Are there any list members using Jaws 12 or 13 with recent versions of Family Tree Maker? I am considering FTM 2012 but hesitate because have never had much luck using FTM in the past. Tom

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Re: Family Tree Maker

David Hardingham
 

Hi Sandy,

Could you send me the web address for the program you prefer?

I cannot seem for some reason to find it. Only the e mail address.
Thanks,

David

-----Original Message-----
From: sandy stegmayer Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:50 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker

Tom,

I don't use FTM because of that problem but you might want to try the list at blind-genealogists@rootsweb.com.
I switched to Ancestral Quest which is completely accessible with JAWS.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "tcivi31" <tcivi31@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:46 AM
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Family Tree Maker

Are there any list members using Jaws 12 or 13 with recent versions of Family Tree Maker? I am considering FTM 2012 but hesitate because have never had much luck using FTM in the past. Tom

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Re: Broken Quick Settings

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Yes, we corresponded about that. I'm at SP2, XP Media Center (read XP
pro).

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Broken Quick Settings

Ted,

Which operating system and service pack are on that computer?

I hope it's clear I was sending out an alert that Joni's idea, which
reflects a nice piece of research, applies only to a limited range of
OS's
and service packs.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:50 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Broken Quick Settings

Well, sir, it worked. The entire procedure was as smooooooooooth as
butter.
A huge thank you to Joni.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:29 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Broken Quick Settings

This is excellent information. However, it looks like it isn't advisable
for
many systems. I've just read through the page you link to, Joni. In the
list
of operating systems that support these files, XP Service Packs 1 and 2
are
named, but not the final XP Service Pack 3. Windows 7 and Vista are
also
not named. Here's the list from the website:

Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000 Service Pack 4, Windows Server
2003, Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1, Windows XP Service Pack 1,
Windows
XP Service Pack 2

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:03 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Broken Quick Settings

Ted, I downloaded the first file. I assumed it was for a 32-bit
computer
since the next one said 64. This is the one I chose:

msxml6.msi
1.5 MB

http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=3988

I confess I have no idea what this file is and why I did not have it,
but
since the error message said it as the culprit, I decided I would
download
it and see what happened.

Hope you get things remedied, even though it is a minor issue in the
scheme
of things. Please post what FS advises.

Joni
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: Broken Quick Settings


I followed the link, and encountered no fewer than 4 files, and I have
no
idea which one would be appropriate. Besides, it's almost inconceivable
that, during the installation, I managed to delete a file I'd be lucky
to
find with a Geiger counter. I'll have a day off on the 13th of next
month,
and would like to do a tandem session then with FS.
Mean time, everything else functions perfectly. If I have to customize
the
response of an Excel sheet, I guess I'll have to load JAWS 10 until
then.
The old adjust JAWS still works fine.

Ted

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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:40 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Broken Quick Settings

Whoa. So it is--called Quick Settings in JAWS 13, that is. However, for
the
record, I haven't received that error message. In case I do, I've saved
your
solution. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:03 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Broken Quick Settings

Ted, I just sent a message about this problem. The download to fix it
is
here:

http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=3988

Joni
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:54 AM
Subject: Broken Quick Settings


Here's a strange one. Since upgrading my home machine to the last
build,
Quick Settings no longer works. It works fine at the office.
The former was upgraded first from the DVD, and then the Internet
download.
The latter went straight from 10 to the latest build of 13.
When I try to access Quick settings, I get a quirky error message about
the
inability to access Ms XML 6.0. I tried repairing the installation to
no
avail. Now that I remember, I installed from the thumb drive, which had
always worked before. Anyone ever seen this kind of thing?



Wish I could easily replicate the message, but it's difficult to copy
and
paste. It's just an overlay, which disappears when you press okay, and
Virtual Viewer (or results viewer, as they call it now) doesn't capture
it.
Performance seems otherwise unimpaired.



Ted



Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X
2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.




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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello Roger;
Okay, so when you did the uninstall, did you check all the programs
associated with windows live?

I'm really not sure what to tell you,
The only thing I can suggest at this moment is,
Have you considered a restore,
To when the WLM actually was working?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:54 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

As far as I can tell I did the repair as you instructed. It then counted off
percentages until it reached 100 percent and then gave me the option of
restarting now or later. I clicked restart now and tried WLM when my
computer restarted. The same thing happened. It said that the program had to
close and gave me a button to click so that it could check on line for a
solution. I clicked that and it just closed. As for the link you provided,
that was where I downloaded and reinstalled the new copy when I uninstalled
it. By the way, I just thought of something. Actually, when it finished
counting off the percentages and gave me the option of restarting now or
later I clicked restart now, but nothing happened, at least not immediately.
So I went to the start menu by pressing control + escape and restarted by
using the restart utility there. Would that have an effect?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 12:53 pm
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi roger;

Did you try to do the repair as I suggested?

You can get a copy of the Windows live essentials from here:

http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:18 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I don't know if I have the WLM executable or not. Where would I find it if I
do?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 11:19 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello there;

Do you have the WLM excecutable?
If so, you may want to run it,
This would most likely repair what ever went wrong?

If you need the latest, let me know.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:11 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I am tempted to subscribe to that list, but I am drowning in email as it is
and I am having a particularly difficult time reading it right now anyway.
That is, I am reading on the web. My WLM is completely crashed. When I try
to open it I just get a notice that it has stopped working and I am given
abutton to click so that it can close and search for a solution on line.
When I do that it just closes. I do not want to mess with the registry.
I do
not have enough technical knowledge to do so and those instructions largely
did not even make sense to me because of my ignorance. If anyone would ruin
his system by messing with the registry I would be one of the most likely to
do so. I have tried uninstalling my WLM and reinstalling it and that did not
work. So, short of refiguring my registry, is there any way that any of you
can suggest to just get my WLM working again?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in
jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics
-
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler
dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

How long has WLM been playing up? Try doing a system restore to before it happened. Otherwise your new PC will have a restore disk. It's maybe worth restoring it back to factory defaults and start again. If you didn't get a disk then it's probably a partition on the hard drive. Have a look at the getting started guide for your PC as it will likely tell you how to restore it. There will be a way of doing that without losing your data files.

Peter

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:10 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I am tempted to subscribe to that list, but I am drowning in email as
it is and I am having a particularly difficult time reading it right
now anyway. That is, I am reading on the web. My WLM is completely
crashed. When I try to open it I just get a notice that it has stopped
working and I am given abutton to click so that it can close and search
for a solution on line. When I do that it just closes. I do not want to
mess with the registry. I do not have enough technical knowledge to do
so and those instructions largely did not even make sense to me because
of my ignorance. If anyone would ruin his system by messing with the
registry I would be one of the most likely to do so. I have tried
uninstalling my WLM and reinstalling it and that did not work. So,
short of refiguring my registry, is there any way that any of you can
suggest to just get my WLM working again?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM,
FS could really rectify this problem by labeling the graphics,
And, providing some scripts which would alleviate the problem folks are
having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some,
I really think we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get
the
message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that
difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry
tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was
talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada,
I try to learn the most used email clients, outlook,
WLM,
I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients,
If anyone wishes to join you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something
called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier
Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how
difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it
might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which
indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To
temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in
jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled;
press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics
-
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled
graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur before the
senders
name. What you will need to determine is,
what is the number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message
in
the list which is unread, that is jaws says graphic and the graphic
number
when reading it;
press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places
the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left arrow
till
you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler
dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected;
type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for
reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows
Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live
Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife
tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading
this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

rogerbailey81@...
 

As far as I can tell I did the repair as you instructed. It then counted off percentages until it reached 100 percent and then gave me the option of restarting now or later. I clicked restart now and tried WLM when my computer restarted. The same thing happened. It said that the program had to close and gave me a button to click so that it could check on line for a solution. I clicked that and it just closed. As for the link you provided, that was where I downloaded and reinstalled the new copy when I uninstalled it. By the way, I just thought of something. Actually, when it finished counting off the percentages and gave me the option of restarting now or later I clicked restart now, but nothing happened, at least not immediately. So I went to the start menu by pressing control + escape and restarted by using the restart utility there. Would that have an effect?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 12:53 pm
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi roger;

Did you try to do the repair as I suggested?

You can get a copy of the Windows live essentials from here:

http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:18 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I don't know if I have the WLM executable or not. Where would I find it if I
do?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 11:19 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello there;

Do you have the WLM excecutable?
If so, you may want to run it,
This would most likely repair what ever went wrong?

If you need the latest, let me know.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:11 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I am tempted to subscribe to that list, but I am drowning in email as it is
and I am having a particularly difficult time reading it right now anyway.
That is, I am reading on the web. My WLM is completely crashed. When I try
to open it I just get a notice that it has stopped working and I am given
abutton to click so that it can close and search for a solution on line.
When I do that it just closes. I do not want to mess with the registry.
I do
not have enough technical knowledge to do so and those instructions largely
did not even make sense to me because of my ignorance. If anyone would ruin
his system by messing with the registry I would be one of the most likely to
do so. I have tried uninstalling my WLM and reinstalling it and that did not
work. So, short of refiguring my registry, is there any way that any of you
can suggest to just get my WLM working again?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in
jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics
-
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler
dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

rogerbailey81@...
 

I have already deleted that set of instructions because it was long and complicated and I did not understand most of it. The dire warnings that were included in it scared me off too. Are you saying that those instructions did not include going into the registry or are you saying that adding that file is an alternative to the instructions? Do you mean that I can just download the file and install it?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 11:41 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi Roger;
Further to the windows mail registry tweak;
You don't have to go into the registry at all.
The files are provided,
You simplely enter on a particular,
File,
For example;

Add some missing entries to the registry. Click on the two files "Set
WinMailDefault.reg" and "WinMailEdit.reg" will take care of this for you.
Each time you add entries to the registry from a .reg file, you will receive
a warning which makes sure that you trust the source and a message
asking"Are you sure you want to continue?". Assuming that you do in fact
trust the source and wish to complete this procedure, make sure to select
the "Yes" button.

Hope this is helpful and explains a little more.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi Roger;

Another thing you can do is;
If your using windows 7 for example;

Go into control panel,
P=programs and features,
W=windows live essentials2011,
Now press applications key, and enter on uninstall/change button, You should
find a button, Repair all Windows Live programs

Try this.

This should fix your current problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:11 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I am tempted to subscribe to that list, but I am drowning in email as it is
and I am having a particularly difficult time reading it right now anyway.
That is, I am reading on the web. My WLM is completely crashed. When I try
to open it I just get a notice that it has stopped working and I am given
abutton to click so that it can close and search for a solution on line.
When I do that it just closes. I do not want to mess with the registry. I do
not have enough technical knowledge to do so and those instructions largely
did not even make sense to me because of my ignorance. If anyone would ruin
his system by messing with the registry I would be one of the most likely to
do so. I have tried uninstalling my WLM and reinstalling it and that did not
work. So, short of refiguring my registry, is there any way that any of you
can suggest to just get my WLM working again?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in
jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics
-
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler
dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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