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Re: Scripts for Firefox?

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

they come with Jaws already, if i'm not mistaken. The functionality is almost identical to Internet Explorer.

At 01:08 PM 11/24/2011, you wrote:
Hi all,
Help needed to find scrips for Firefox to use with JAWS11

regards,

Marion

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Scripts for Firefox?

Marion Woods <marion_woods38@...>
 

Hi all,
Help needed to find scrips for Firefox to use with JAWS11

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Will application written in java be accessible with jaws

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Hi
Sorry if this is a dumb question but if it comes to programming etc.
I'm a nuby. Just want to find out as a rule of thumb, would a program
written in java runtime be accessible with jaws 12? I don't know much
about the software and the people's not whilling to give it to me to
test it with jaws, it's very expensive and don't want to buy it unless
it will work. It's a share traiding program so I guess it will
constantly update the on screen info because it's directly connected
to the stock exchange.


Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Tom Behler
 

David:

I did not know this, so thanks for the tip.

I had been trying to navigate to different folders via the shift tab and up and down arrow keys like I used to do in Outlook Express, and this was rather difficult.

I appreciate the help very much.

Tom from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 7:05 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;

I assume you know this,
However, I'll tell you this just in case,
If you wish to navigate to other folders in WLM,
Ctrl+y,
Now you can arrow to the folder and press enter.
Unfortunately, we can't letter navigate.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

Well, I appreciate all of this information, and yes, it was very helpful as
always.

I will consider joining your yahoo list, but before I do that, I may have to
figure out which list to drop because I get so many e-mails every day.

I may just call Freedom Scientific, and ask them about my issues with
Windows Live Mail, just to have them here my concerns, and to add my voice
to those who are having problems.

I'll keep in touch as I struggle along here.

Thanks again ,David.

Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics -
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: Messages with bulk in the subject line

Adrian Spratt
 

Besides, the moderators never asked, politely or otherwise, that "bulk" be
removed from subject lines. It might be nice, but it would be too
cumbersome.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Messages with bulk in the subject line

Glenn,

First, you need to change the subject line yourself if you want to change
the thread.
Second, the [bulk] is automatically inserted by various ISP spam tracking
engines; we do not do it ourselves.
Thirdly, you have been on this list long enough to have seen at least one
solution on how to set the JAWS dictionary to skip over pronouncing the
[bulk].
Fourthly you are welcome to strip [bulk] out of any messages you send, which
you did not do when you replied -- you may look below in the thread and
you'll see evidence of that.

Sorry, Charlie!

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Beers" <blindtaz@gvii.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 01:12
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad


I thought that we wher all ask very politely to take the "bulk" out of our
messages, it looks like we are starting down that road again.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of BHAVESH
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

does anyone know how to disable the touchpad in dell vostro 1440?

On 11/23/11, Kimsan <kimsansong@aol.com> wrote:
Lol, David, I can't seem to disable it via the CTRL panel so fn f five
works for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

Hello there;
Well, I have know idea which function keystroke I use to turn off the
touchpad, So, I just disabled the dam thing.
I'm using a dell vostro 1310.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

Kimsan,

Cool. Had no idea the Fn + F5 existed. I've just experimented with it
and on my E6250 it works to disable/enable one, other, or both.
Totally cool. Thank your wife for helping out on this.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 16:06
Subject: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad


Ok, I just or my wife just figured it out. Lol, it's the fn key with
the function key five.

I still want my hp back, though. Now we can get back to jaws. lol
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: dell machine touch pad

Hello there;

Look in your system tray and see if you have, Synaptics Pointing
Device If so, Enter on properties, Shift tab to buttons tab, Right
arrow to, device settings, Now tab and enter on disable.

Another way is to;
From the start menu edit field,
Type in mouse,
Now enter on mouse,
You actually will probably see,
Mouse,
Change how your mouse works
Control the computer without the mouse or keyboard So choose mouse,
And the steps above apply.

I have the mouse pad disabled,
However, I do have an entrie in the system tray just in case I need
some sighted assistance, I can activate the mouse pad.

Hope this helps.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:17 PM
To: jfw
Subject: dell machine touch pad

I got this new del latitude machine. Does anyone know how to disable
the touch pad via a keystroke instead of the control panel route?

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Re: Messages with bulk in the subject line

Dave...
 

Glenn,

First, you need to change the subject line yourself if you want to change
the thread.
Second, the [bulk] is automatically inserted by various ISP spam tracking
engines; we do not do it ourselves.
Thirdly, you have been on this list long enough to have seen at least one
solution on how to set the JAWS dictionary to skip over pronouncing the
[bulk].
Fourthly you are welcome to strip [bulk] out of any messages you send, which
you did not do when you replied -- you may look below in the thread and
you'll see evidence of that.

Sorry, Charlie!

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Beers" <blindtaz@gvii.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 01:12
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad


I thought that we wher all ask very politely to take the "bulk" out of our
messages, it looks like we are starting down that road again.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of BHAVESH
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

does anyone know how to disable the touchpad in dell vostro 1440?

On 11/23/11, Kimsan <kimsansong@aol.com> wrote:
Lol, David, I can't seem to disable it via the CTRL panel so fn f five
works for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

Hello there;
Well, I have know idea which function keystroke I use to turn off the
touchpad, So, I just disabled the dam thing.
I'm using a dell vostro 1310.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

Kimsan,

Cool. Had no idea the Fn + F5 existed. I've just experimented with it
and on my E6250 it works to disable/enable one, other, or both.
Totally cool. Thank your wife for helping out on this.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 16:06
Subject: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad


Ok, I just or my wife just figured it out. Lol, it's the fn key with
the function key five.

I still want my hp back, though. Now we can get back to jaws. lol
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: dell machine touch pad

Hello there;

Look in your system tray and see if you have, Synaptics Pointing
Device If so, Enter on properties, Shift tab to buttons tab, Right
arrow to, device settings, Now tab and enter on disable.

Another way is to;
From the start menu edit field,
Type in mouse,
Now enter on mouse,
You actually will probably see,
Mouse,
Change how your mouse works
Control the computer without the mouse or keyboard So choose mouse,
And the steps above apply.

I have the mouse pad disabled,
However, I do have an entrie in the system tray just in case I need
some sighted assistance, I can activate the mouse pad.

Hope this helps.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:17 PM
To: jfw
Subject: dell machine touch pad

I got this new del latitude machine. Does anyone know how to disable
the touch pad via a keystroke instead of the control panel route?

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello Tom;

I assume you know this,
However, I'll tell you this just in case,
If you wish to navigate to other folders in WLM,
Ctrl+y,
Now you can arrow to the folder and press enter.
Unfortunately, we can't letter navigate.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David:

Well, I appreciate all of this information, and yes, it was very helpful as
always.

I will consider joining your yahoo list, but before I do that, I may have to
figure out which list to drop because I get so many e-mails every day.

I may just call Freedom Scientific, and ask them about my issues with
Windows Live Mail, just to have them here my concerns, and to add my voice
to those who are having problems.

I'll keep in touch as I struggle along here.

Thanks again ,David.

Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics -
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: [Bulk] dell machine touch pad

Glenn Beers
 

I thought that we wher all ask very politely to take the "bulk" out of our
messages, it looks like we are starting down that road again.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of BHAVESH
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

does anyone know how to disable the touchpad in dell vostro 1440?

On 11/23/11, Kimsan <kimsansong@aol.com> wrote:
Lol, David, I can't seem to disable it via the CTRL panel so fn f five
works for me.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

Hello there;
Well, I have know idea which function keystroke I use to turn off the
touchpad, So, I just disabled the dam thing.
I'm using a dell vostro 1310.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad

Kimsan,

Cool. Had no idea the Fn + F5 existed. I've just experimented with it
and on my E6250 it works to disable/enable one, other, or both.
Totally cool. Thank your wife for helping out on this.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 16:06
Subject: [Bulk] RE: dell machine touch pad


Ok, I just or my wife just figured it out. Lol, it's the fn key with
the function key five.

I still want my hp back, though. Now we can get back to jaws. lol
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: dell machine touch pad

Hello there;

Look in your system tray and see if you have, Synaptics Pointing
Device If so, Enter on properties, Shift tab to buttons tab, Right
arrow to, device settings, Now tab and enter on disable.

Another way is to;
From the start menu edit field,
Type in mouse,
Now enter on mouse,
You actually will probably see,
Mouse,
Change how your mouse works
Control the computer without the mouse or keyboard So choose mouse,
And the steps above apply.

I have the mouse pad disabled,
However, I do have an entrie in the system tray just in case I need
some sighted assistance, I can activate the mouse pad.

Hope this helps.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:17 PM
To: jfw
Subject: dell machine touch pad

I got this new del latitude machine. Does anyone know how to disable
the touch pad via a keystroke instead of the control panel route?

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Re: how do I get the words send mail link to appear in a message where Ihave written an email address.

Adrian Spratt
 

I didn't receive the original query. I no longer have Outlook Express, but I
can think of three areas to look into:

1. to make sure an email address is set up as such in the main message
field, I type a return immediately before and immediately after. No spaces,
no punctuation.

2. See if any relevant Quick Settings, the new name for the insert-v
options, have changed. I'm assuming you merged settings from the previous
version.

3. With a new message open and focus placed inside it, go to tools with
alt-t, then options with o. Tab through the various options. It's possible
that HTML has changed to plain text. I believe you'd need HTML for email and
Internet addresses to be formatted the way you want.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Cindy Handel
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: how do I get the words send mail link to appear in a message
where Ihave written an email address.

I just tried it with JAWS 13, and it works. Just write the email address in
the message body. Then, when you send it to yourself and open the email,
the address should say "send mail link".

Cindy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deb and Cori" <debsoundandscent@earthlink.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:10 PM
Subject: how do I get the words send mail link to appear in a message where
Ihave written an email address.


I used to be able to put email addresses in a message, send it to me, and go
to add to addressbook and would be able to add it easily that way.
I can not seem to do that after loading jaws 13.
I am using outlook express.
Deb


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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Tom Behler
 

David:

Well, I appreciate all of this information, and yes, it was very helpful as always.

I will consider joining your yahoo list, but before I do that, I may have to figure out which list to drop because I get so many e-mails every day.

I may just call Freedom Scientific, and ask them about my issues with Windows Live Mail, just to have them here my concerns, and to add my voice to those who are having problems.

I'll keep in touch as I struggle along here.

Thanks again ,David.

Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM,
FS could really rectify this problem by labeling the graphics,
And, providing some scripts which would alleviate the problem folks are
having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some,
I really think we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the
message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada,
I try to learn the most used email clients, outlook,
WLM,
I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients,
If anyone wishes to join you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which
indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics -
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled
graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur before the
senders
name. What you will need to determine is,
what is the number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message
in
the list which is unread, that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number
when reading it;
press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places
the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left arrow till
you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: how do I get the words send mail link to appear in a message where Ihave written an email address.

Cindy
 

I just tried it with JAWS 13, and it works. Just write the email address in
the message body. Then, when you send it to yourself and open the email,
the address should say "send mail link".

Cindy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Deb and Cori" <debsoundandscent@earthlink.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:10 PM
Subject: how do I get the words send mail link to appear in a message where
Ihave written an email address.


I used to be able to put email addresses in a message, send it to me, and go
to add to addressbook and would be able to add it easily that way.
I can not seem to do that after loading jaws 13.
I am using outlook express.
Deb


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Deb and the girls
 

I used to be able to put email addresses in a message, send it to me, and go to add to addressbook and would be able to add it easily that way.
I can not seem to do that after loading jaws 13.
I am using outlook express.
Deb


Re: Family Tree Maker

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

----------------------------------------Tom, I never tried to import a ged so I don't know about that issue. There is one view where you need to use the JAWS cursor but it is not one where you enter info if my memory serves me correctly. As for reports, have no trouble printing... but then, I have the full version.
If you do purchase it, I would suggest you also purchase the manual as a download. It is very deatailed and helpful.

Good luck,
Sandy
From: "tcivi31" <tcivi31@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:37 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker

Sandy, I down loaded the basic version and installed it and then created a GED file from my current program, :Roots Magic" and imported it into "Ancestral Quest". Got a list of 85 errors that I have to track down. Still seems as though you have to use the Jaws cursor quite a bit. I do see they have some tutorials, Video though. Don't see a way of printing any of the reports, guess I would have to purchase the full version. Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker


Tom,

I don't use FTM because of that problem but you might want to try the list at blind-genealogists@rootsweb.com.
I switched to Ancestral Quest which is completely accessible with JAWS.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "tcivi31" <tcivi31@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:46 AM
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Family Tree Maker

Are there any list members using Jaws 12 or 13 with recent versions of Family Tree Maker? I am considering FTM 2012 but hesitate because have never had much luck using FTM in the past. Tom

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Re: Family Tree Maker

T. Civitello
 

Sandy, I down loaded the basic version and installed it and then created a GED file from my current program, :Roots Magic" and imported it into "Ancestral Quest". Got a list of 85 errors that I have to track down. Still seems as though you have to use the Jaws cursor quite a bit. I do see they have some tutorials, Video though. Don't see a way of printing any of the reports, guess I would have to purchase the full version. Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker


Tom,

I don't use FTM because of that problem but you might want to try the list at blind-genealogists@rootsweb.com.
I switched to Ancestral Quest which is completely accessible with JAWS.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "tcivi31" <tcivi31@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:46 AM
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Family Tree Maker

Are there any list members using Jaws 12 or 13 with recent versions of Family Tree Maker? I am considering FTM 2012 but hesitate because have never had much luck using FTM in the past. Tom

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello Roger;

Have you tried:

http://support.microsoft.com/fixit/

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Are all your windows updates up to date along with Java, Flash etc?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:54 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

As far as I can tell I did the repair as you instructed. It then counted off
percentages until it reached 100 percent and then gave me the option of
restarting now or later. I clicked restart now and tried WLM when my
computer restarted. The same thing happened. It said that the program had to
close and gave me a button to click so that it could check on line for a
solution. I clicked that and it just closed. As for the link you provided,
that was where I downloaded and reinstalled the new copy when I uninstalled
it. By the way, I just thought of something. Actually, when it finished
counting off the percentages and gave me the option of restarting now or
later I clicked restart now, but nothing happened, at least not immediately.
So I went to the start menu by pressing control + escape and restarted by
using the restart utility there. Would that have an effect?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 12:53 pm
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi roger;

Did you try to do the repair as I suggested?

You can get a copy of the Windows live essentials from here:

http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:18 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I don't know if I have the WLM executable or not. Where would I find it if I
do?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 11:19 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello there;

Do you have the WLM excecutable?
If so, you may want to run it,
This would most likely repair what ever went wrong?

If you need the latest, let me know.



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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:11 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I am tempted to subscribe to that list, but I am drowning in email as it is
and I am having a particularly difficult time reading it right now anyway.
That is, I am reading on the web. My WLM is completely crashed. When I try
to open it I just get a notice that it has stopped working and I am given
abutton to click so that it can close and search for a solution on line.
When I do that it just closes. I do not want to mess with the registry.
I do
not have enough technical knowledge to do so and those instructions largely
did not even make sense to me because of my ignorance. If anyone would ruin
his system by messing with the registry I would be one of the most likely to
do so. I have tried uninstalling my WLM and reinstalling it and that did not
work. So, short of refiguring my registry, is there any way that any of you
can suggest to just get my WLM working again?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in
jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics
-
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler
dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Java

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi. The thread below brings up another question no one could answer before,
so I'll try again.

Until the most recent version of Java, you had to reinstall Java Access
Bridge after each Java update. Now a new version of Access Bridge has been
released, and it is incredibly time-consuming to install. It's no longer a
question of clicking on an executable file. Now you must open the folder
and copy files to various parts of your system.

Oracle/sun's page on Access Bridge does not address this point. Since it
doesn't, perhaps I should infer that constant reinstallation is no longer
necessary. However, it would diverge from Sun's previous instructions for
Access Bridge.

Does anyone know the answer?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Are all your windows updates up to date along with Java, Flash etc?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:54 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

As far as I can tell I did the repair as you instructed. It then counted off
percentages until it reached 100 percent and then gave me the option of
restarting now or later. I clicked restart now and tried WLM when my
computer restarted. The same thing happened. It said that the program had to
close and gave me a button to click so that it could check on line for a
solution. I clicked that and it just closed. As for the link you provided,
that was where I downloaded and reinstalled the new copy when I uninstalled
it. By the way, I just thought of something. Actually, when it finished
counting off the percentages and gave me the option of restarting now or
later I clicked restart now, but nothing happened, at least not immediately.
So I went to the start menu by pressing control + escape and restarted by
using the restart utility there. Would that have an effect?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 12:53 pm
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi roger;

Did you try to do the repair as I suggested?

You can get a copy of the Windows live essentials from here:

http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:18 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I don't know if I have the WLM executable or not. Where would I find it if I
do?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 11:19 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello there;

Do you have the WLM excecutable?
If so, you may want to run it,
This would most likely repair what ever went wrong?

If you need the latest, let me know.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:11 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I am tempted to subscribe to that list, but I am drowning in email as it is
and I am having a particularly difficult time reading it right now anyway.
That is, I am reading on the web. My WLM is completely crashed. When I try
to open it I just get a notice that it has stopped working and I am given
abutton to click so that it can close and search for a solution on line.
When I do that it just closes. I do not want to mess with the registry.
I do
not have enough technical knowledge to do so and those instructions largely
did not even make sense to me because of my ignorance. If anyone would ruin
his system by messing with the registry I would be one of the most likely to
do so. I have tried uninstalling my WLM and reinstalling it and that did not
work. So, short of refiguring my registry, is there any way that any of you
can suggest to just get my WLM working again?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in
jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics
-
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler
dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Are all your windows updates up to date along with Java, Flash etc?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: rogerbailey81@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:54 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

As far as I can tell I did the repair as you instructed. It then counted off percentages until it reached 100 percent and then gave me the option of restarting now or later. I clicked restart now and tried WLM when my computer restarted. The same thing happened. It said that the program had to close and gave me a button to click so that it could check on line for a solution. I clicked that and it just closed. As for the link you provided, that was where I downloaded and reinstalled the new copy when I uninstalled it. By the way, I just thought of something. Actually, when it finished counting off the percentages and gave me the option of restarting now or later I clicked restart now, but nothing happened, at least not immediately. So I went to the start menu by pressing control + escape and restarted by using the restart utility there. Would that have an effect?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 12:53 pm
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi roger;

Did you try to do the repair as I suggested?

You can get a copy of the Windows live essentials from here:

http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:18 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I don't know if I have the WLM executable or not. Where would I find it if I
do?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 11:19 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello there;

Do you have the WLM excecutable?
If so, you may want to run it,
This would most likely repair what ever went wrong?

If you need the latest, let me know.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:11 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I am tempted to subscribe to that list, but I am drowning in email as it is
and I am having a particularly difficult time reading it right now anyway.
That is, I am reading on the web. My WLM is completely crashed. When I try
to open it I just get a notice that it has stopped working and I am given
abutton to click so that it can close and search for a solution on line.
When I do that it just closes. I do not want to mess with the registry.
I do
not have enough technical knowledge to do so and those instructions largely
did not even make sense to me because of my ignorance. If anyone would ruin
his system by messing with the registry I would be one of the most likely to
do so. I have tried uninstalling my WLM and reinstalling it and that did not
work. So, short of refiguring my registry, is there any way that any of you
can suggest to just get my WLM working again?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in
jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics
-
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler
dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello Roger;
Okay,
I can send you a shorter version of the setup for windows mail,
You need to follow the steps, and yes,
No need to venture into the registry,
As I said, the .reg files will do this for you.

In fact you can go to:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14125880/WinMail.exe

all the files are there,
and there is a text file for your reading.
Note, when you press enter on the WinMail.exe,
It will unzip and place files on the C-drive,
And the folder will be called,
WinMail.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:52 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I have already deleted that set of instructions because it was long and
complicated and I did not understand most of it. The dire warnings that were
included in it scared me off too. Are you saying that those instructions did
not include going into the registry or are you saying that adding that file
is an alternative to the instructions? Do you mean that I can just download
the file and install it?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 11:41 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi Roger;
Further to the windows mail registry tweak; You don't have to go into the
registry at all.
The files are provided,
You simplely enter on a particular,
File,
For example;

Add some missing entries to the registry. Click on the two files "Set
WinMailDefault.reg" and "WinMailEdit.reg" will take care of this for you.
Each time you add entries to the registry from a .reg file, you will receive
a warning which makes sure that you trust the source and a message
asking"Are you sure you want to continue?". Assuming that you do in fact
trust the source and wish to complete this procedure, make sure to select
the "Yes" button.

Hope this is helpful and explains a little more.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
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On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi Roger;

Another thing you can do is;
If your using windows 7 for example;

Go into control panel,
P=programs and features,
W=windows live essentials2011,
Now press applications key, and enter on uninstall/change button, You should
find a button, Repair all Windows Live programs

Try this.

This should fix your current problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
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On Behalf Of rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:11 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

I am tempted to subscribe to that list, but I am drowning in email as it is
and I am having a particularly difficult time reading it right now anyway.
That is, I am reading on the web. My WLM is completely crashed. When I try
to open it I just get a notice that it has stopped working and I am given
abutton to click so that it can close and search for a solution on line.
When I do that it just closes. I do not want to mess with the registry.
I do
not have enough technical knowledge to do so and those instructions largely
did not even make sense to me because of my ignorance. If anyone would ruin
his system by messing with the registry I would be one of the most likely to
do so. I have tried uninstalling my WLM and reinstalling it and that did not
work. So, short of refiguring my registry, is there any way that any of you
can suggest to just get my WLM working again?

-----Original Message-----
From: David <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hello Tom;
First thank you for the kind words.
I do understand your frustrations with WLM, FS could really rectify this
problem by labeling the graphics, And, providing some scripts which would
alleviate the problem folks are having with the client.
Although the research it feature may be a good tool for some, I really think
we need to start shouting a little louder so FS may get the message.
Regarding windows mail,
Yes it does sound sort of daunting for those who really don't want to be
messing with the registry tweak, however, it really isn't that difficult, if
you follow, the steps.
Yes, the windows mail has the OE feel, and, it's very simple to use,
However, as I indicated, some folks after performing the registry tweak, had
problems downloading and installing the windows 7 service pack 1.
I'm not entirely sure what the issue was, all I do know is, it was talked
about on other lists.
Unfortunately, because I provide adaptive training here in Canada, I try to
learn the most used email clients, outlook, WLM, I do run a yahoo list,
Which pertains to screen readers and email clients, If anyone wishes to join
you can send a email to:

Email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I hope I've ansered some of your concerns.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Thanks very much, David.

This seems cumbersome, but is certainly better than nothing.

I am not sure I'
m liking Windows Live Mail very much, for this and a few other reasons.

I know some folks on the list are suggesting that we go to something called
Windows Mail for an e-mail interface that is more like the earlier Outlook
Express in Windows XP, but I am not sure how accurate this is, how difficult
it would be to do, and when I'd get the time to do it. However, it might be
worth considering.

If you have any thoughts on this, I'd certainly welcom them.

Thanks for your help with this current issue. Once again, I really
appreciate your being out there.

Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail


Hello Tom;


If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics
which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default.

However, you can label these
manually

:1. Open windows live mail.


2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily
change this behavior/setting so that it reads them, so that you can find
them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog;or, in
jaws13
it's now refered to as, quick settings.
press the letter "G" until you hear jaws announce Graphics - labeled; press
spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics
-
all, and then press enter to activate the default close button.


3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each
unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur
before the senders name. What you will need to determine is, what is the
number graphic corresponding with, unread, attachments.

4. To label a graphic, move to a unread message in the list which is unread,
that is jaws says graphic and the graphic number when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this
places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left
arrow till you
get to graphicXXX press insert + g to open the graphics labeler
dialog;
the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic xxx selected; type

unread, and then press enter to activate the default ok button.


5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to
label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
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On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to mark un-read messages inwindows live mail

Hi, all.

On this new laptop with Windows 7, I am currently trying to use Windows Live
Mail.

As some of you may know, this is a real switch from the much more
blind-friendly Outlook Express e-mail program I used to use wwith my old
Windows XP laptop.

Anyway, I am finding that when I access my g-mail through Windows Live Mail,
there is no way to tell which messages are unread. My sighted wife tells me
that the unread messages are marked in bold, but Jaws is not reading this
for me.

Is there any good way to note unread messages in Windows Live Mail and
Windows7?

I am using Jaws 11 here.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: Family Tree Maker

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

David, the website is

ancquest.com

I have been really pleased with it.

Good luck
Sandy


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From: "David Hardingham" <jarhead55@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:39 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker

Hi Sandy,

Could you send me the web address for the program you prefer?

I cannot seem for some reason to find it. Only the e mail address.
Thanks,

David

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From: sandy stegmayer Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:50 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker
Tom,

I don't use FTM because of that problem but you might want to try the list at blind-genealogists@rootsweb.com.
I switched to Ancestral Quest which is completely accessible with JAWS.

Sandy


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Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:46 AM
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Subject: Family Tree Maker

Are there any list members using Jaws 12 or 13 with recent versions of Family Tree Maker? I am considering FTM 2012 but hesitate because have never had much luck using FTM in the past. Tom

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Re: Family Tree Maker

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Hi Sandy,

Could you send me the web address for the program you prefer?

I cannot seem for some reason to find it. Only the e mail address.
Thanks,

David

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From: sandy stegmayer Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:50 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker

Tom,

I don't use FTM because of that problem but you might want to try the list at blind-genealogists@rootsweb.com.
I switched to Ancestral Quest which is completely accessible with JAWS.

Sandy


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Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:46 AM
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Are there any list members using Jaws 12 or 13 with recent versions of Family Tree Maker? I am considering FTM 2012 but hesitate because have never had much luck using FTM in the past. Tom

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