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Can I creat my own help file?

Shannon
 

Hi all,

As I am learning…

I am finding little tricks and ways to do things. They aren’t script things but  more along the lines of if you want X Y Z then do A B C.

Can I write  this down and associate it to particular programs?

Sure I could write it down in word but It would be faster if I didn’t have to go and find the cheat sheet document.

 

Thanks

Shannon


Re: OCR with Jaws 16

Richard Turner
 

I had read all that, I just wanted to be sure that someone hadn't discovered a way to use a scanner.
Thanks.
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR with Jaws 16

What Is Convenient OCR

One frequently encounters images which contain textual information while
browsing the web or performing other tasks on one's computer. The setup
screen of an application, or the menu of selections for a DVD movie very
often use Buttons and other onscreen controls which are labeled with
pictures of text instead of the actual text characters themselves. Many
Portable Document File (PDF) formatted documents also do not contain
accessible text. Instead, these .pdf documents contain images of pages.
In the past, this text could not be read using a screen reader.
Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition), first introduced in JAWS
13, enables you to access any image on the screen that includes text, or
recognize all of the text in a PDF document.

Using Convenient OCR

Convenient OCR is included in JAWS Layered keystrokes. Each keystroke is
composed of two "layers." Press JAWSKey+SPACEBAR to invoke the command
layer, then press the second keystroke to activate the command. In the
case of Convenient OCR commands, you will first press JAWSKey+SPACEBAR,
followed by O to activate the Convenient OCR command layer, then you
will press a specific letter to invoke different kinds of recognition.

Use one of the following keystrokes if you locate a control, or graphic
which you believe is labeled with an image of text:

* INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such
as a graphical button.
* INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that
has focus.
* INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
* INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
* INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message
describing the commands in the OCR layer.

When you encounter graphical text and use one of these commands, JAWS
will recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS
cursor so you can navigate the resulting text. In order to differentiate
the recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will
use a different voice when it encounters the recognized text. The
recognized text will be in the same location as the actual image on the
screen, so you can use the left mouse click command to activate an
onscreen control. When you activate the PC cursor, or switch to another
application or dialog box, the text is removed and you will need to
perform the OCR again.


The Convenient OCR feature now allows you to recognize entire PDF
documents. In JAWS 16, if you open a PDF document and you do not find
any text to read,
press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O to access the OCR layer and then press the
letter D. After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are
displayed in the Results Viewer for reading. You can use standard
reading commands to review the text. You can also select and copy
sections of content for pasting in other applications. For example, you
could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word document,
which you could then save.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Aug 16, 2017 8:58 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR with Jaws 16

I am still working on a friend's computer.
He has Jaws 16 and Windows 10.
A while back, there was discussion of the convenient OCR commands.
Is it possible to use a flatbed scanner with this or is it just for
scanning documents, screen, window....?

Richard


Re: OCR with Jaws 16

Mario
 

What Is Convenient OCR

One frequently encounters images which contain textual information while
browsing the web or performing other tasks on one's computer. The setup
screen of an application, or the menu of selections for a DVD movie very
often use Buttons and other onscreen controls which are labeled with
pictures of text instead of the actual text characters themselves. Many
Portable Document File (PDF) formatted documents also do not contain
accessible text. Instead, these .pdf documents contain images of pages.
In the past, this text could not be read using a screen reader.
Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition), first introduced in JAWS
13, enables you to access any image on the screen that includes text, or
recognize all of the text in a PDF document.

Using Convenient OCR

Convenient OCR is included in JAWS Layered keystrokes. Each keystroke is
composed of two "layers." Press JAWSKey+SPACEBAR to invoke the command
layer, then press the second keystroke to activate the command. In the
case of Convenient OCR commands, you will first press JAWSKey+SPACEBAR,
followed by O to activate the Convenient OCR command layer, then you
will press a specific letter to invoke different kinds of recognition.

Use one of the following keystrokes if you locate a control, or graphic
which you believe is labeled with an image of text:

• INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such
as a graphical button.
• INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that
has focus.
• INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
• INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
• INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message
describing the commands in the OCR layer.

When you encounter graphical text and use one of these commands, JAWS
will recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS
cursor so you can navigate the resulting text. In order to differentiate
the recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will
use a different voice when it encounters the recognized text. The
recognized text will be in the same location as the actual image on the
screen, so you can use the left mouse click command to activate an
onscreen control. When you activate the PC cursor, or switch to another
application or dialog box, the text is removed and you will need to
perform the OCR again.


The Convenient OCR feature now allows you to recognize entire PDF
documents. In JAWS 16, if you open a PDF document and you do not find
any text to read,
press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O to access the OCR layer and then press the
letter D. After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are
displayed in the Results Viewer for reading. You can use standard
reading commands to review the text. You can also select and copy
sections of content for pasting in other applications. For example, you
could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word document,
which you could then save.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Aug 16, 2017 8:58 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR with Jaws 16

I am still working on a friend's computer.
He has Jaws 16 and Windows 10.
A while back, there was discussion of the convenient OCR commands.
Is it possible to use a flatbed scanner with this or is it just for
scanning documents, screen, window....?

Richard


OCR with Jaws 16

Richard Turner
 

I am still working on a friend’s computer.

He has Jaws 16 and Windows 10.

A while back, there was discussion of the convenient OCR commands.

Is it possible to use a flatbed scanner with this or is it just for scanning documents, screen, window….?

 

Richard

 


British English missing

Gezim Rexha
 

Dear List,

 

Recently I installed JAWS on a second computer, and strangely enough, British English does not appear on the list when choosing JAWS synthesizer language. Any ideas?

 

Cheers,

Gezim

 


Re: Looking for participants for user research

Gezim Rexha
 

Hello,

 

I would be interested in participating to the research. I use JAWS and VoiceOver.

 

Regards,

Gezim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of elodie@...
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 3:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Looking for participants for user research

 

Hello everyone,

I am doing user research for a client and we are looking for participants who use assistive technologies : 

JAWS, VoiceOver on mobile, NVDA with Firefox, Dragon, and screen magnifiers Supernova and/or ZoomText.

Contact me if you would be interested in participating in this experience or if you would like more info.

Thank you for considering

Elodie


Re: how do you copy into the jaws clipboard a web address back from Hank

Hank & Patty <hank1patty@...>
 

Hello back Mike B.,
 
Thanks very much for your prompt reply with this very helpful info.
 
 
 
 
 
Again much thanks!,
 
Hank
 
 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: how do you copy into the jaws clipboard a web address
 
Hi Hank,
 
Instead of using the, Jaws + A, keystroke, try these keystrokes.  Press the, F6, key to highlight the address bar, now press, control + C to copy it to the clipboard.  the keystroke, Alt + D, will work the same way.  Both keystrokes highlight the whole address bar so you don't have to select it, it's already selected, so after copying just paste it wherever you want.  After using either of these keystrokes press the, F6 key, to get off the address bar.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: how do you copy into the jaws clipboard a web address
 
 
Hello,
 
I am really hoping someone can help me out. on any web site, after I press the Jaws key combo with the letter “A” key to read to myself the current web address I am located on, how do I copy this particular web address I am on into my jaws clipboard to paste later say in a word document?
 
Any help with this would be so very much appreciated! Much, much thanks in advance for any help I can maybe get with this!!
 
 
 
 
Jaws 18 user,
 
Hank
 
 

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Blackboard Collaborate and getting to a link

traci.mwd@...
 

My kids have to use BlackBoard Collaborate for school and the teacher uses Google Forms for an Exit Ticket at the end. How can we access the link - it is usually put in the PPT slide, pasted in a text box and put in the chat box... but we haven't figured out how to get to it yet! 

Thanks,

Traci


Re: OCR Window select text?

 

No need, any results from Jaws convenient OCR will be displayed in a virtual viewer where you can use Control+A to select all text, the Control+C to copy or you can of course just copy a part of the text.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 11:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR Window select text?

 

You can use your speech history!!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR Window select text?

 

Hi all,

I can use the OCR on a window but, can I then copy the result to the clip board to paste into word?

Thanks

Shannon

 
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Re: convert an email message into an appointment with the Copy to Folder feature

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

Cool tip, thanks.

 

As a side note, the keyboard shortcut for opening the “copy item to” dialog is CTRL+SHIFT+Y. This just came up recently in the context of creating a new contact from an email message – you copy to the contacts folder, and the new contact dialog is populated with the sender info.

   -Paul

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: convert an email message into an appointment with the Copy to Folder feature

 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

It is easy to convert an email message into an appointment with the Copy to Folder feature in Microsoft Outlook. You can do it as following:

 

Step 1: Select and highlight the email message that you will convert to an appointment.

 

Step 2: Open the Copy Items dialog box:

 

 

• In Outlook 2007, please click the Edit > Copy to Folder.

• In Outlook 2010 and 2013, please click the Move > Copy to Folder in the Move group on the Home tab.

 

Step 3: In the Copy Items dialog box,

 

1) Select and highlight the Calendar in the Copy the selected items to the folder: box.

2) Click the OK button.

 

Step 4: Then an Appointment window opens,

 

1) Modify the start time in the Start Time box, and modify the end time in the End Time box.

2) Enter appointment location in the Location box.

3) Click the Save & Close button in the Actions group on the Appointment tab.

 

Then the selected email message is converted to an appointment. And you can find out the new appointment in the calendar that you specified in Step 3.

now, I assume to do this with jaws using the keyboard,

 

1, highlight the email which you wish to convert,

now, you may have to press the spacebar to highlight, but shouldn't be necessary,

2, press the applications key, up or down arrow and enter on,

move sub-menu,

 

3, now use up or down arrow and enter on,

calendar button,

note if you first don't see the calendar in the list, then choose other folder first, and then find calendar,

now enter on calendar,

and a different screen will come up.

 

hope this gets you pointed in the right direction.


Re: OCR Window select text?

Jonas Voll
 

You can use your speech history!!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR Window select text?

 

Hi all,

I can use the OCR on a window but, can I then copy the result to the clip board to paste into word?

Thanks

Shannon

 
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OCR Window select text?

Shannon
 

Hi all,

I can use the OCR on a window but, can I then copy the result to the clip board to paste into word?

Thanks

Shannon


Re: Open Office and Jaws 16

Stan Holdeman
 

I could not get it to work with jaws 18 back in April. Have not tried since.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Open Office and Jaws 16

 

Does anyone know if Open Office works with Jaws 16 on Windows 10?

 

Richard

 


Open Office and Jaws 16

Richard Turner
 

Does anyone know if Open Office works with Jaws 16 on Windows 10?

 

Richard

 


convert an email message into an appointment with the Copy to Folder feature

david
 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

It is easy to convert an email message into an appointment with the Copy to Folder feature in Microsoft Outlook. You can do it as following:

 

Step 1: Select and highlight the email message that you will convert to an appointment.

 

Step 2: Open the Copy Items dialog box:

 

 

• In Outlook 2007, please click the Edit > Copy to Folder.

• In Outlook 2010 and 2013, please click the Move > Copy to Folder in the Move group on the Home tab.

 

Step 3: In the Copy Items dialog box,

 

1) Select and highlight the Calendar in the Copy the selected items to the folder: box.

2) Click the OK button.

 

Step 4: Then an Appointment window opens,

 

1) Modify the start time in the Start Time box, and modify the end time in the End Time box.

2) Enter appointment location in the Location box.

3) Click the Save & Close button in the Actions group on the Appointment tab.

 

Then the selected email message is converted to an appointment. And you can find out the new appointment in the calendar that you specified in Step 3.

now, I assume to do this with jaws using the keyboard,

 

1, highlight the email which you wish to convert,

now, you may have to press the spacebar to highlight, but shouldn't be necessary,

2, press the applications key, up or down arrow and enter on,

move sub-menu,

 

3, now use up or down arrow and enter on,

calendar button,

note if you first don't see the calendar in the list, then choose other folder first, and then find calendar,

now enter on calendar,

and a different screen will come up.

 

hope this gets you pointed in the right direction.


Can You Perform This Outlook Trick Using JAWS?

Rick Miller
 

Dear Listers:

 

I have heard that in Outlook 2016 you can convert an e-mail message into an appointment on your Outlook calendar.  I know sighted people drag the message over to the calendar icon, then drop it onto the calendar, and it converts the message into an appointment.  I am not very good at dragging and dropping, so can this trick be performed in another way using JAWS?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


Re: Looking for Jaws script writing user group

Stephanie Watts
 

 Thank you, Paul. I am planning to dapple for a while then see where that takes me. 


Re: Looking for Jaws script writing user group

Stephanie Watts
 

 Thanks, Phil. Yes, the link was very helpful.
 
Stephanie 


Re: installing windows 10

netbat66
 

i don't think you would need the accissibility offer once it was activated.
and once activated with microsoft you would not need any activation code because this info is stored on the microsoft server.
but you would need the windows 10 anaversory version because this is the first one that has a talking setup. wonce it starts it will also ask you if you want to load narrator so it will read all the menu options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shannon
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 12:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: installing windows 10

Hello all,
Some of you may have a memory of my constant complaints of my Win 10 acting oddly.
Our computer guy agrees that something is off here. I am getting tons of errors logged in the event viewer. The errors are not what he would be concerned about the event code is 10016. He said all in all that error is not a big deal but when I am getting it I am getting 5 or more in a second and thousands per day.
So what he suggests is either wipe this unit and reload or for the sake of speediness get a new unit all together and start over fresh out of the box. I didn't know but this unit originally was a seven updated to eight and then to ten. He suspects something happened in the several updates.

My questions is it possible for me to do this wipe and reinstall?
I received my Win 10 with the offer for accessibility users. I don't know how it knew that there was assistive tech on this unit? Will I be able to reinstall Win 10 without assistive tech on this unit after wiping it off?

Thanks for any assistance.
Shannon
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 7:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: installing windows 10

Dave,
Sounds like we followed a similar pre setup process. As with you, I made sure the SSD I installed into my Intel NUC was completely free of any partitions etc. In other words, it was as though I just took it out of a new box.
Now, you were using a DVD, I was using a flash drive. Either one should produce the same result as the unit will go to that because there is no bootable media present.
Below is the link I used to create the win 10 install on my flash drive:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

This download gives me the latest version of Win 10 Creator's update.
I guess you could try again to see what happens. I don't know what else could be the problem.
Let me know how you make out.

Best,
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 3:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: installing windows 10

I put the SSD into a USB caddy and connected it to my Laptop. I then used the Partition Manager, to make sure there were no existing partitions on it, there wer not. So, when I started the laptop, because there was not a bootable partition on the SSD, the bootable DVD in the DVD drive, became the bootable media by default.

----- Original Message -----
From: "netbat66" <netbat66@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 7:25 AM
Subject: installing windows 10


which version of windows 10?
only the anaversory version has a talking setup.
it starts up with voice and instructs you to turn narrator on for full voice
access.
i think you still have to change the boot order in bios so the dvd drive or
flash drive boots first . then the c drive. then the installation will
start.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 11:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data


Allen:

Congratulations. You had better luck than I did. I downloaded the 64 BIT ISo
image Windows 10 file from Microsoft, burned the image to a DVD, loaded a
blankn ssd into my HP laptop, inserted the dvd into the DVD drive, connected
the power cable, switched on and waited for about a minute, before pressing
the
key combination, CTRL+WINDOWS DEY+ENTER, to start Narrator.

Well! I waited! and I waited! Absolutely nothing.

I pressed the power button and a few seconds later, the computer shut down.

I took the SSD out of the laptop and tried the same procedure in a desktop
computer. I got the same result.

Where did you get your copy of the Windows 10 ISO image file?

There is something at work which is preventing Narrator from starting. The
version of the installation process may not have been set up in the same way
as
your version or, it is the brothers, sods and Merpheys Law, who are up to
their
usual mischief, which, of course, is meant to frustrate me. Don't be
concerned
about me, I am not being paranoid.

Again, congratulations, I am glad it worked for you.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

---- Original Message -----

From: Alan Robbins
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data


Dave,



I had no trouble at all with the install of Win 10 without sighted
assistance.
Once I installed my memory and SSD correctly in my Intel NUC, I connected
all
the cables etc. I plugged my flash drive into one of the USB ports and
turned
the unit on. I waited about 15 to 20 seconds before trying to invoke
narrator
via Ctrl + windows key + enter. Once I hit that combination I had speech all
the way through the install and reboots. I did the entire thing with no
sighted
assistance. Anymore questions write back



Al





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Durber
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data







Hello Al:







I tried using the Windows 10 Update Utility to update one of my Windows 7
Professional computers, with no success.







The Update Utility downloaded Windows 10 and installed it on the computer.
However, After I got the prompt, which said that windows needed to restart
to
complete the installation and that Windows might have to restart several
times,
I pressed ENTER to restart the computer.







Well, I have no idea what happened after that. I left the computer alone for
about an hour and tried pressing the Windows key combination to start
Narrator
but, nothing, absolutely nothing. After another hour, I tried again to
restart
Narrator but, still nothing. So, I gave up and forced a hard shut down of
the
computer and after about 20 seconds or so, I turned the computer on again,
only
to find that the computer started in Windows 7 Professional as before.







My conclusion is that the Update Utility detected a problem during the
reboot
process, and got stuck at that point, never to complete its mission. And, of
course, without sighted assistance, I will never know what the error was.







In order to make sure that any remnants of Windows 10 or its Update Utility
did
not remain on the system, I used Revo Uninstaller to first remove them from
the
computer, then I used CCleaner to check if there were any left over files
and
folders. Happily, there were not.







so, I have come to the conclusion for me at least, performing a fresh
install
will be the way to go.







For those who used the Windows 10 Update Utility with no problems or
difficulties, congratulations, I am glad it worked for you.







Al, please let us know how the installation of Windows 10 goes for you, I
for
one, will be very interested.







Note 1: Do not bank on the Windows 10 installation, offering a choice of
deleting/removing the old partition, before it partitions, formats and
installs
the new version of Windows. If it is like previous versions of the Windows
setup procedure, If an existing partition is detected, do not be surprised
if
you are given the option to install Windows in whatever free space which is
available on the drive. This is why I strongly suggest deleting any
partitions
on the drive first.







Note 2: If the computer has more than one Solid State Drive or hard drive
connected to the motherboard or connected to any USB ports, disconnect them
all, except of course, the drive on which you intend installing Windows,
before
turning on the computer and starting the installation from the bootable
media.







Sincerely:







Dave Durber







----- Original Message -----



From: Alan Robbins



To: main@jfw.groups.io



Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 12:36 PM



Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data







Dave,



Sounds like a lot of good advice for folks out there.

Regarding a talking installer for Windows 10, not sure if there is one out
there labeled that but my understanding is the latest Wind 10 release offers
talk from Narrator almost instantly. What I hear is when booting from an
optical drive, or more common these days a flash drive, after the first
automatic boot, one can press win key plus ctrl key and enter to get speech
from narrator to complete the install. I have not used this yet but am
planning
on trying this weekend when I set my new Intel NUC7i5bnh barebones kit up.
Just
need to install the SSD and memory first. I m curious to find this out
personally



Al





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Durber
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 3:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data







Hello Brian:







First of all, you cannot format the system drive on any Windows computer
while
you are running a Windows session.







It is not just a question of formatting a system drive in order to remove an
installation of Windows from a system drive. You also need to delete the
existing partition as well, especially if you intend installing a new
version
of Windows on the same drive.







Even if you wish to use the existing drive as a data drive, I would suggest
deleting the old partition, creating a new partition and, of course,
formatting
the new partition.







If you need to recondition the system drive for a computer running Windows,
you
will probably need to remove the system drive from the particular computer,
place it into a caddy, connect the caddy to another computer, then, if it is
a
computer running Windows Vista, Windows 7, 8, 8.1 or 10, you will need to
use
the Partition Manager, to delete/remove the old partition.







You should wait until the computer running Windows you are going to use, is
at
the Desktop, before switching on the USB caddy device containing the hard
drive
on which you wish to delete to partition.







I would strongly recommend not connecting the drive directly to another
computer's motherboard and then starting that computer. It is possible that
elements from the version of Windows on the drive from the other computer,
might affect the Windows installed on the host computer. This might also be
true, if you turn on the USB caddy device before turning on the Host
computer.







If you are intending to install Windows 7, you can use the talking install
program to do that. As far as I know, there is not a talking installation
method for installing Windows 8 or 8.1. There may be a talking install for
Windows 10 but, I haven't come across one as yet , despite performing many
internet searches.







HTH







Sincerely:







Dave Durber







----- Original Message -----



From: brian albriton



To: main@jfw.groups.io



Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 2:57 AM



Subject: Erasing a computer's data







What s the simplest way to erase or at the very least format a computer, an
old
XP machine?

Might I simply type format c: from the command line?

All the best, Brian





Brian Albriton

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