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Re: Off topic, accessible books,

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 


Pablo,
I'm sorry you are in this situation.
does your school have a Disabled Student Services office?
Are they not able to help more?
Otherwise, it sounds like you would have to hire someone to do this manually since the publisher did not provide you with a good version with the headings. That is simply awful.
Richard


On Aug 12, 2017, at 7:01 PM, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@...> wrote:

A software is not able to do this. Let me try to describe  the situation. The publishers sent me these books,(they are not in bookshare). These books visually have main titles, subtitles, and other type of format or fonts that identify what are the hierarchy of titles and points in these books. They are not tagged. So converting these books to word is not a choice, copying and pasting is not a choice either, each book is over 800 pages, and I have no time or way to know which is a heading level 3 or heading level 2. I need someone telling me if a heading in the PDF is parent or child of a previous title.

More over, for some reason that I don’t want to know. Publishers now likes to add text boxes on the sides of the pages with complementary information, or notes,  or just tips related with the topic in those chapters. Keeping the format is no the solution because the way how the screen reader will read it is going to be so confusing. I need take those text boxes at the end of the chapter, I need those notes as bookmarks that are link with points in the chapter.

All of these require human intervention.

Should be someone on the world able to do this. How companies modify Policies  documents or documentation that is not available in word?

How disable people do these?

Copying and pasting, or depending of bookshare, or using text conversion software?

No come on guys, How many of you are going to school.

Do you get your books from bookshare?

You tag your documents manually?

How do you handle text boxes on the sides of the pages in these cases?

For how long you have to work on that.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 9:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Off topic, accessible books,

 

The Codex program will allow you to convert to epub and that format will hold your formatting, if there is any.  Also, if you know how to navigate through headings and such, you can also save the books to .docx. 

Carol


On 8/12/2017 7:44 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Hi all,

I am starting this semester, and I have bunches of books in PDF. According with the publishers the books are accessible because jaws is able to read the text. However I find that these books are a mess when I try to read them with a screen reader.

  • The Pdf files don’t have any type of heading, so I can’t know which is a main title or a subtitle.
  • On the book are text boxes on the sides of the chapter information. The screen reader reads the text from both parts at the same time so I have no way to know which is the text that I should be reading. It makes the reading experience very confusing.

Anybody know a company  that will be able to prepare this document as a word document, in the correct order, with the correct headings on titles and subtitles?

It is urgent guys,

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 

 


Re: Off topic, accessible books,

Pablo Morales
 

A software is not able to do this. Let me try to describe  the situation. The publishers sent me these books,(they are not in bookshare). These books visually have main titles, subtitles, and other type of format or fonts that identify what are the hierarchy of titles and points in these books. They are not tagged. So converting these books to word is not a choice, copying and pasting is not a choice either, each book is over 800 pages, and I have no time or way to know which is a heading level 3 or heading level 2. I need someone telling me if a heading in the PDF is parent or child of a previous title.

More over, for some reason that I don’t want to know. Publishers now likes to add text boxes on the sides of the pages with complementary information, or notes,  or just tips related with the topic in those chapters. Keeping the format is no the solution because the way how the screen reader will read it is going to be so confusing. I need take those text boxes at the end of the chapter, I need those notes as bookmarks that are link with points in the chapter.

All of these require human intervention.

Should be someone on the world able to do this. How companies modify Policies  documents or documentation that is not available in word?

How disable people do these?

Copying and pasting, or depending of bookshare, or using text conversion software?

No come on guys, How many of you are going to school.

Do you get your books from bookshare?

You tag your documents manually?

How do you handle text boxes on the sides of the pages in these cases?

For how long you have to work on that.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 9:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Off topic, accessible books,

 

The Codex program will allow you to convert to epub and that format will hold your formatting, if there is any.  Also, if you know how to navigate through headings and such, you can also save the books to .docx. 

Carol


On 8/12/2017 7:44 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Hi all,

I am starting this semester, and I have bunches of books in PDF. According with the publishers the books are accessible because jaws is able to read the text. However I find that these books are a mess when I try to read them with a screen reader.

  • The Pdf files don’t have any type of heading, so I can’t know which is a main title or a subtitle.
  • On the book are text boxes on the sides of the chapter information. The screen reader reads the text from both parts at the same time so I have no way to know which is the text that I should be reading. It makes the reading experience very confusing.

Anybody know a company  that will be able to prepare this document as a word document, in the correct order, with the correct headings on titles and subtitles?

It is urgent guys,

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 

 


Re: One Drive Clarification

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Google one drive download ms support.

Pull up the list of headings, insert F 6

Arrow down to Windows 7

I found it frustrating to edit it online

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: August 12, 2017 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: One Drive Clarification

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am sorry for the additional post, but I need to clarify something about my previous one drive quiry.

 

I have some tutorial files for Windows 10, but I’m currently still using Windows 7 on my main laptop computer.

 

So, if I could get some instructions tailered to Windows 7, that would be most helpful.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: Off topic, accessible books,

Carol Smith
 

The Codex program will allow you to convert to epub and that format will hold your formatting, if there is any.  Also, if you know how to navigate through headings and such, you can also save the books to .docx. 

Carol



On 8/12/2017 7:44 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Hi all,

I am starting this semester, and I have bunches of books in PDF. According with the publishers the books are accessible because jaws is able to read the text. However I find that these books are a mess when I try to read them with a screen reader.

  • The Pdf files don’t have any type of heading, so I can’t know which is a main title or a subtitle.
  • On the book are text boxes on the sides of the chapter information. The screen reader reads the text from both parts at the same time so I have no way to know which is the text that I should be reading. It makes the reading experience very confusing.

Anybody know a company  that will be able to prepare this document as a word document, in the correct order, with the correct headings on titles and subtitles?

It is urgent guys,

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 



Re: Off topic, accessible books,

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

The hard way would be to paste in Word, and create headings as you go. Bookshare and their request option would certainly be the preferred choice, I should think.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: August 12, 2017 5:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Off topic, accessible books,

 

No, on the PDF files are not headings as tags. Visually the titles look like a main title or a sub title, but they are not tagged.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 8:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Off topic, accessible books,

 

You might try this utility called Codex, to see if it will convert from PDF to word. But if there are truly no headings in the PDF, it probably cannot create them.

 

Richard

 

 


On Aug 12, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@...> wrote:

Does your college have any support for text book format at the DSS center if there is one? I know when I was in college a few years ago they would take the text from the publisher if there was one and format it.

 

Drew Hunthausen

The No Excuses Blind Guy

#1 Blind and Hearing Impaired Motivational Speaker, Triathlete,

& International Best Selling Author

 

Get my free guide, The Five Keys To Living A No Excuses Life Filled With Joy, Peace, and Prosperity!

http://DrewsInspirations.com

 

To book Drew for your event go to

http://bookdrew.com

(714) 296-7111

 

With an Attitude of Gratitude and no excuses, The Best Is Yet To Come!

http://noexcusesblindguy.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Off topic, accessible books,

 

Hi all,

I am starting this semester, and I have bunches of books in PDF. According with the publishers the books are accessible because jaws is able to read the text. However I find that these books are a mess when I try to read them with a screen reader.

  • The Pdf files don’t have any type of heading, so I can’t know which is a main title or a subtitle.
  • On the book are text boxes on the sides of the chapter information. The screen reader reads the text from both parts at the same time so I have no way to know which is the text that I should be reading. It makes the reading experience very confusing.

Anybody know a company  that will be able to prepare this document as a word document, in the correct order, with the correct headings on titles and subtitles?

It is urgent guys,

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Off topic, accessible books,

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Well, have you checked that your books are not available on Bookshare?
Or, try the Codex utility and see what you get.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Aug 12, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@...> wrote:

No, on the PDF files are not headings as tags. Visually the titles look like a main title or a sub title, but they are not tagged.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 8:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Off topic, accessible books,

 

You might try this utility called Codex, to see if it will convert from PDF to word. But if there are truly no headings in the PDF, it probably cannot create them.

 

Richard

 

 


On Aug 12, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@...> wrote:

Does your college have any support for text book format at the DSS center if there is one? I know when I was in college a few years ago they would take the text from the publisher if there was one and format it.

 

Drew Hunthausen

The No Excuses Blind Guy

#1 Blind and Hearing Impaired Motivational Speaker, Triathlete,

& International Best Selling Author

 

Get my free guide, The Five Keys To Living A No Excuses Life Filled With Joy, Peace, and Prosperity!

http://DrewsInspirations.com

 

To book Drew for your event go to

http://bookdrew.com

(714) 296-7111

 

With an Attitude of Gratitude and no excuses, The Best Is Yet To Come!

http://noexcusesblindguy.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Off topic, accessible books,

 

Hi all,

I am starting this semester, and I have bunches of books in PDF. According with the publishers the books are accessible because jaws is able to read the text. However I find that these books are a mess when I try to read them with a screen reader.

  • The Pdf files don’t have any type of heading, so I can’t know which is a main title or a subtitle.
  • On the book are text boxes on the sides of the chapter information. The screen reader reads the text from both parts at the same time so I have no way to know which is the text that I should be reading. It makes the reading experience very confusing.

Anybody know a company  that will be able to prepare this document as a word document, in the correct order, with the correct headings on titles and subtitles?

It is urgent guys,

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: How do I Disable Scripts?

Soronel Haetir
 

This is in reference to browser scripting, not jaws. You'll need to
look into whatever means your browser has of disabling scripts.

On 8/11/17, Rick Miller <rm1263@...> wrote:
Dear Listers:

Tonight I tried turning on a Google toolbar, but as soon as I did whenever I
would go to a page I would get a dialog that said, "Script error. Do you
want to run script on this page? Yes No." I disabled the Toolbar,
thinking that might stop it, but it didn't. Now when I go to various
Internet pages I get a dialog that is saying, "Script error. Do you want to
run Script on this page? Yes No." And before I enabled the toolbar, that
was not happening. How can I stop this from happening?



Rick Miller

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Re: Erasing a computer's data

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I have had this happen a few times.  So, when I get the prompt that windows needs to restart, I close out the update utilities, then go to the start menu and restart that way.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave Durber
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data

 

Hello Al:

 

I tried using the Windows 10 Update Utility to update one of my Windows 7 Professional computers, with no success.

 

The Update Utility downloaded Windows 10 and installed it on the computer. However, After I got the prompt, which said that windows needed to restart to complete the installation and that Windows might have to restart several times, I pressed ENTER to restart the computer.

 

Well, I have no idea what happened after that. I left the computer alone for about an hour and tried pressing the Windows key combination to start Narrator but, nothing, absolutely nothing. After another hour, I tried again to restart Narrator but, still nothing. So, I gave up and forced a hard shut down of the computer and after about 20 seconds or so, I turned the computer on again, only to find that the computer started in Windows 7 Professional as before.

 

My conclusion is that the Update Utility detected a problem during the reboot process, and got stuck at that point, never to complete its mission. And, of course, without sighted assistance, I will never know what the error was.

 

 In order to make sure that any remnants of Windows 10 or its Update Utility did not remain on the system, I used Revo Uninstaller to first remove them from the computer, then I used CCleaner to check if there were any left over files and folders. Happily, there were not.

 

so, I have come to the conclusion for me at least, performing a fresh install will be the way to go.

 

For those who used the Windows 10 Update Utility with no problems or difficulties, congratulations, I am glad it worked for you.

 

Al, please let us know how the installation of Windows 10 goes for you, I for one, will be very interested.

 

Note 1: Do not bank on the Windows 10 installation, offering a choice of deleting/removing the old partition, before it partitions, formats and installs the new version of Windows. If it is like previous versions of the Windows setup procedure, If an existing partition is detected, do not be surprised if you are given the option to install Windows in whatever free space which is available on the drive. This is why I strongly suggest deleting any partitions on the drive first.

 

Note 2: If the computer has more than one Solid State Drive or hard drive connected to the motherboard or connected to any USB ports, disconnect them all, except of course, the drive on which you intend installing Windows, before turning on the computer and starting the installation from the bootable media.  

 

Sincerely:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 12:36 PM

Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data

 

Dave,

 

Sounds like a lot of good advice for folks out there.

Regarding a talking installer for Windows 10, not sure if there is one out there labeled that but my understanding is the latest Wind 10 release offers talk from Narrator almost instantly. What I hear is  when booting from an optical drive, or more common these days a flash drive, after the first automatic boot, one can press win key plus ctrl key and enter to get speech from narrator to complete the install. I have not used this yet but am planning on trying this weekend when I set my new Intel NUC7i5bnh barebones kit up. Just need to install the SSD and memory first. I’m curious to find this out personally

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 3:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data

 

Hello Brian:

 

First of all, you cannot format the system drive on any Windows computer while you are running a Windows session.

 

It is not just a question of formatting a system drive in order to remove an installation of Windows from a system drive. You also need to delete the existing partition as well, especially if you intend installing a new version of Windows on the same drive.

 

Even if you wish to use the existing drive as a data drive, I would suggest deleting the old partition, creating a new partition and, of course, formatting the new partition.

 

If you need to recondition the system drive for a computer running Windows, you will probably need to remove the system drive from the particular computer, place it into a caddy, connect the caddy to another computer, then, if it is a computer running Windows Vista, Windows 7, 8, 8.1 or 10, you will need to use the Partition Manager, to delete/remove the old partition.

 

You should wait until the computer running Windows you are going to use, is at the Desktop, before switching on the USB caddy device containing the hard drive on which you wish to delete to partition.

 

I would strongly recommend not connecting the drive directly to another computer's motherboard and then starting that computer. It is possible that elements from the version of Windows on the drive from the other computer, might affect the Windows installed on the host computer. This might also be true, if you turn on the USB caddy device before turning on the Host computer.

 

If you are intending to install Windows 7, you can use the talking install program to do that. As far as I know, there is not a talking installation method for installing Windows 8 or 8.1. There may be a talking install for Windows 10 but, I haven't come across one as yet , despite performing many internet searches.

 

HTH

 

Sincerely:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 2:57 AM

Subject: Erasing a computer's data

 

What’s the simplest way to erase or at the very least format a computer, an old XP machine?

Might I simply type format c: from the command line?

All the best, Brian

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...

 

 


Re: Window List question

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

What happens if you press Alt+tab and then holding the Alt key press tab again?
It sounds to me like you have more than just your browser and Excel open and therefore you have to continue to press tab until you get to where you want to be.
Alternatively if Jaws is the third application that is open, go into Jaws settings, select "Options" and "Basic", then tab 5 times and check the checkbox that says "Run Jaws from System Tray".
Now either reboot your computer or close Jaws with Insert+F4 and reload it, Jaws will now no longer have it's own Window.
I don't know why Jaws doesn't make this the default by now when you install Jaws, I really wonder how many people run Jaws the normal way where it has its own Window, for me putting Jaws in the system tray is always the first thing I do when I have to do a fresh install. Insert+J gives you instant access to the Jaws menu if you really need it, but I mean once Jaws is set up properly, how often does one need to go there.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Window List question

Probably. The thing is, I never used it. Didn't even think of it. (smile). Thanks.

Shirley


Re: Off topic, accessible books,

Pablo Morales
 

No, on the PDF files are not headings as tags. Visually the titles look like a main title or a sub title, but they are not tagged.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 8:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Off topic, accessible books,

 

You might try this utility called Codex, to see if it will convert from PDF to word. But if there are truly no headings in the PDF, it probably cannot create them.

 

Richard

 

 


On Aug 12, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@...> wrote:

Does your college have any support for text book format at the DSS center if there is one? I know when I was in college a few years ago they would take the text from the publisher if there was one and format it.

 

Drew Hunthausen

The No Excuses Blind Guy

#1 Blind and Hearing Impaired Motivational Speaker, Triathlete,

& International Best Selling Author

 

Get my free guide, The Five Keys To Living A No Excuses Life Filled With Joy, Peace, and Prosperity!

http://DrewsInspirations.com

 

To book Drew for your event go to

http://bookdrew.com

(714) 296-7111

 

With an Attitude of Gratitude and no excuses, The Best Is Yet To Come!

http://noexcusesblindguy.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Off topic, accessible books,

 

Hi all,

I am starting this semester, and I have bunches of books in PDF. According with the publishers the books are accessible because jaws is able to read the text. However I find that these books are a mess when I try to read them with a screen reader.

  • The Pdf files don’t have any type of heading, so I can’t know which is a main title or a subtitle.
  • On the book are text boxes on the sides of the chapter information. The screen reader reads the text from both parts at the same time so I have no way to know which is the text that I should be reading. It makes the reading experience very confusing.

Anybody know a company  that will be able to prepare this document as a word document, in the correct order, with the correct headings on titles and subtitles?

It is urgent guys,

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Off topic, accessible books,

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

You might try this utility called Codex, to see if it will convert from PDF to word. But if there are truly no headings in the PDF, it probably cannot create them.

Richard



On Aug 12, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@...> wrote:

Does your college have any support for text book format at the DSS center if there is one? I know when I was in college a few years ago they would take the text from the publisher if there was one and format it.

 

Drew Hunthausen

The No Excuses Blind Guy

#1 Blind and Hearing Impaired Motivational Speaker, Triathlete,

& International Best Selling Author

 

Get my free guide, The Five Keys To Living A No Excuses Life Filled With Joy, Peace, and Prosperity!

http://DrewsInspirations.com

 

To book Drew for your event go to

http://bookdrew.com

(714) 296-7111

 

With an Attitude of Gratitude and no excuses, The Best Is Yet To Come!

http://noexcusesblindguy.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Off topic, accessible books,

 

Hi all,

I am starting this semester, and I have bunches of books in PDF. According with the publishers the books are accessible because jaws is able to read the text. However I find that these books are a mess when I try to read them with a screen reader.

  • The Pdf files don’t have any type of heading, so I can’t know which is a main title or a subtitle.
  • On the book are text boxes on the sides of the chapter information. The screen reader reads the text from both parts at the same time so I have no way to know which is the text that I should be reading. It makes the reading experience very confusing.

Anybody know a company  that will be able to prepare this document as a word document, in the correct order, with the correct headings on titles and subtitles?

It is urgent guys,

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


One Drive Clarification

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am sorry for the additional post, but I need to clarify something about my previous one drive quiry.

 

I have some tutorial files for Windows 10, but I’m currently still using Windows 7 on my main laptop computer.

 

So, if I could get some instructions tailered to Windows 7, that would be most helpful.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: free JAWS scripts available for OE Classic

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 


thanks Sandra,
I think we found those scripts at the same time.
They do help.
Just so you know, you have to use Pop settings in OE Classic right now. The developers are working on iMap support, but no telling when that might be inmplemented.
HTH,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Aug 12, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Sandra Streeter <sandrastreeter381@...> wrote:

Because I’m still not satisfied with TB, I am seriously considering going with OE Classic, which I just now heard of  thanks to previous posters. I pine for OE in days of old. I discovered a site that offers free JAWS scripts, which facilitate eyes-free use,  so you may want to check it out:
 
 
 
Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)



Re: Off topic, accessible books,

Drew Hunthausen
 

Does your college have any support for text book format at the DSS center if there is one? I know when I was in college a few years ago they would take the text from the publisher if there was one and format it.

 

Drew Hunthausen

The No Excuses Blind Guy

#1 Blind and Hearing Impaired Motivational Speaker, Triathlete,

& International Best Selling Author

 

Get my free guide, The Five Keys To Living A No Excuses Life Filled With Joy, Peace, and Prosperity!

http://DrewsInspirations.com

 

To book Drew for your event go to

http://bookdrew.com

(714) 296-7111

 

With an Attitude of Gratitude and no excuses, The Best Is Yet To Come!

http://noexcusesblindguy.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Off topic, accessible books,

 

Hi all,

I am starting this semester, and I have bunches of books in PDF. According with the publishers the books are accessible because jaws is able to read the text. However I find that these books are a mess when I try to read them with a screen reader.

  • The Pdf files don’t have any type of heading, so I can’t know which is a main title or a subtitle.
  • On the book are text boxes on the sides of the chapter information. The screen reader reads the text from both parts at the same time so I have no way to know which is the text that I should be reading. It makes the reading experience very confusing.

Anybody know a company  that will be able to prepare this document as a word document, in the correct order, with the correct headings on titles and subtitles?

It is urgent guys,

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


One Drive

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am looking for an easy-to-use program with which I can share files that are too large to send to people via normal e-mail.

 

I have had some very limited success with Dropbox, but someone has just suggested that I try One Drive, which I should have access to since I purchase an annual subscription to the Microsoft Office 365 suite of products.

 

Does anyone have some Jaws-friendly instructions for locating, and setting up one-drive, as well as  for easily transferring files to another person using that program?

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Off topic, accessible books,

Pablo Morales
 

Hi all,

I am starting this semester, and I have bunches of books in PDF. According with the publishers the books are accessible because jaws is able to read the text. However I find that these books are a mess when I try to read them with a screen reader.

  • The Pdf files don’t have any type of heading, so I can’t know which is a main title or a subtitle.
  • On the book are text boxes on the sides of the chapter information. The screen reader reads the text from both parts at the same time so I have no way to know which is the text that I should be reading. It makes the reading experience very confusing.

Anybody know a company  that will be able to prepare this document as a word document, in the correct order, with the correct headings on titles and subtitles?

It is urgent guys,

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 


free JAWS scripts available for OE Classic

Sandra Streeter
 

Because I’m still not satisfied with TB, I am seriously considering going with OE Classic, which I just now heard of  thanks to previous posters. I pine for OE in days of old. I discovered a site that offers free JAWS scripts, which facilitate eyes-free use,  so you may want to check it out:
 
 
 
Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)



Re: Erasing a computer's data

Dave Durber
 

Hello Al:
 
I tried using the Windows 10 Update Utility to update one of my Windows 7 Professional computers, with no success.
 
The Update Utility downloaded Windows 10 and installed it on the computer. However, After I got the prompt, which said that windows needed to restart to complete the installation and that Windows might have to restart several times, I pressed ENTER to restart the computer.
 
Well, I have no idea what happened after that. I left the computer alone for about an hour and tried pressing the Windows key combination to start Narrator but, nothing, absolutely nothing. After another hour, I tried again to restart Narrator but, still nothing. So, I gave up and forced a hard shut down of the computer and after about 20 seconds or so, I turned the computer on again, only to find that the computer started in Windows 7 Professional as before.
 
My conclusion is that the Update Utility detected a problem during the reboot process, and got stuck at that point, never to complete its mission. And, of course, without sighted assistance, I will never know what the error was.
 
 In order to make sure that any remnants of Windows 10 or its Update Utility did not remain on the system, I used Revo Uninstaller to first remove them from the computer, then I used CCleaner to check if there were any left over files and folders. Happily, there were not.
 
so, I have come to the conclusion for me at least, performing a fresh install will be the way to go.
 
For those who used the Windows 10 Update Utility with no problems or difficulties, congratulations, I am glad it worked for you.
 
Al, please let us know how the installation of Windows 10 goes for you, I for one, will be very interested.
 
Note 1: Do not bank on the Windows 10 installation, offering a choice of deleting/removing the old partition, before it partitions, formats and installs the new version of Windows. If it is like previous versions of the Windows setup procedure, If an existing partition is detected, do not be surprised if you are given the option to install Windows in whatever free space which is available on the drive. This is why I strongly suggest deleting any partitions on the drive first.
 
Note 2: If the computer has more than one Solid State Drive or hard drive connected to the motherboard or connected to any USB ports, disconnect them all, except of course, the drive on which you intend installing Windows, before turning on the computer and starting the installation from the bootable media.  
 
Sincerely:
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data

Dave,

 

Sounds like a lot of good advice for folks out there.

Regarding a talking installer for Windows 10, not sure if there is one out there labeled that but my understanding is the latest Wind 10 release offers talk from Narrator almost instantly. What I hear is  when booting from an optical drive, or more common these days a flash drive, after the first automatic boot, one can press win key plus ctrl key and enter to get speech from narrator to complete the install. I have not used this yet but am planning on trying this weekend when I set my new Intel NUC7i5bnh barebones kit up. Just need to install the SSD and memory first. I’m curious to find this out personally

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 3:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data

 

Hello Brian:

 

First of all, you cannot format the system drive on any Windows computer while you are running a Windows session.

 

It is not just a question of formatting a system drive in order to remove an installation of Windows from a system drive. You also need to delete the existing partition as well, especially if you intend installing a new version of Windows on the same drive.

 

Even if you wish to use the existing drive as a data drive, I would suggest deleting the old partition, creating a new partition and, of course, formatting the new partition.

 

If you need to recondition the system drive for a computer running Windows, you will probably need to remove the system drive from the particular computer, place it into a caddy, connect the caddy to another computer, then, if it is a computer running Windows Vista, Windows 7, 8, 8.1 or 10, you will need to use the Partition Manager, to delete/remove the old partition.

 

You should wait until the computer running Windows you are going to use, is at the Desktop, before switching on the USB caddy device containing the hard drive on which you wish to delete to partition.

 

I would strongly recommend not connecting the drive directly to another computer's motherboard and then starting that computer. It is possible that elements from the version of Windows on the drive from the other computer, might affect the Windows installed on the host computer. This might also be true, if you turn on the USB caddy device before turning on the Host computer.

 

If you are intending to install Windows 7, you can use the talking install program to do that. As far as I know, there is not a talking installation method for installing Windows 8 or 8.1. There may be a talking install for Windows 10 but, I haven't come across one as yet , despite performing many internet searches.

 

HTH

 

Sincerely:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 2:57 AM

Subject: Erasing a computer's data

 

What’s the simplest way to erase or at the very least format a computer, an old XP machine?

Might I simply type format c: from the command line?

All the best, Brian

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...

 


Re: Erasing a computer's data

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

One tool that might help is Piriform CCleaner. It has a “Drive Wiper” tool that claims to securely erase data from all free space on a disk. CCleaner has several features, and this is one that I have not personally used. However, for the most part, CCleaner does appear to be accessible, and a free version is available.

   -Paul

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian albriton
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Erasing a computer's data

 

What’s the simplest way to erase or at the very least format a computer, an old XP machine?

Might I simply type format c: from the command line?

All the best, Brian

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...

 


Re: Outlook Express Classic question for anyone who has used it

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

That is likely the case.

However, Windows Live Mail will not install on this Win 10 machine.

Outlook Express Classic, which is a brand new, built from the ground up, mail client that looks like Outlook Express 6.0 does work on Windows 10.

Jaws does not read anything however.

So, that is now the issue.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 12:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook Express Classic question for anyone who has used it

 

I believe I know the answer, since that was also my situation.  I am betting your friend is using Windows Live Mail.  For some reason, Microsoft never bothered to change the program name that comes up when you launch WLM, and it faithfully says “outlook Express”.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook Express Classic question for anyone who has used it

 

OK,

So far, you all have been great helps in my attempts to help a friend get his new Win 10 computer setup.

He has some memory issues due to parkinson’s disease along with being blind.

He now tells me that his old computer says something about Outlook Express when he checks Email.

 

I have Outlook Express classic set up and it can send and receive, but jaws reads absolutely nothing in the inbox or outbox.

 

Any help would be hugely appreciated.

 

Richard

 

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