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One Drive Clarification

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am sorry for the additional post, but I need to clarify something about my previous one drive quiry.

 

I have some tutorial files for Windows 10, but I’m currently still using Windows 7 on my main laptop computer.

 

So, if I could get some instructions tailered to Windows 7, that would be most helpful.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: free JAWS scripts available for OE Classic

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 


thanks Sandra,
I think we found those scripts at the same time.
They do help.
Just so you know, you have to use Pop settings in OE Classic right now. The developers are working on iMap support, but no telling when that might be inmplemented.
HTH,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Aug 12, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Sandra Streeter <sandrastreeter381@...> wrote:

Because I’m still not satisfied with TB, I am seriously considering going with OE Classic, which I just now heard of  thanks to previous posters. I pine for OE in days of old. I discovered a site that offers free JAWS scripts, which facilitate eyes-free use,  so you may want to check it out:
 
 
 
Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)



Re: Off topic, accessible books,

Drew Hunthausen
 

Does your college have any support for text book format at the DSS center if there is one? I know when I was in college a few years ago they would take the text from the publisher if there was one and format it.

 

Drew Hunthausen

The No Excuses Blind Guy

#1 Blind and Hearing Impaired Motivational Speaker, Triathlete,

& International Best Selling Author

 

Get my free guide, The Five Keys To Living A No Excuses Life Filled With Joy, Peace, and Prosperity!

http://DrewsInspirations.com

 

To book Drew for your event go to

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With an Attitude of Gratitude and no excuses, The Best Is Yet To Come!

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Off topic, accessible books,

 

Hi all,

I am starting this semester, and I have bunches of books in PDF. According with the publishers the books are accessible because jaws is able to read the text. However I find that these books are a mess when I try to read them with a screen reader.

  • The Pdf files don’t have any type of heading, so I can’t know which is a main title or a subtitle.
  • On the book are text boxes on the sides of the chapter information. The screen reader reads the text from both parts at the same time so I have no way to know which is the text that I should be reading. It makes the reading experience very confusing.

Anybody know a company  that will be able to prepare this document as a word document, in the correct order, with the correct headings on titles and subtitles?

It is urgent guys,

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 


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One Drive

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am looking for an easy-to-use program with which I can share files that are too large to send to people via normal e-mail.

 

I have had some very limited success with Dropbox, but someone has just suggested that I try One Drive, which I should have access to since I purchase an annual subscription to the Microsoft Office 365 suite of products.

 

Does anyone have some Jaws-friendly instructions for locating, and setting up one-drive, as well as  for easily transferring files to another person using that program?

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Off topic, accessible books,

Pablo Morales
 

Hi all,

I am starting this semester, and I have bunches of books in PDF. According with the publishers the books are accessible because jaws is able to read the text. However I find that these books are a mess when I try to read them with a screen reader.

  • The Pdf files don’t have any type of heading, so I can’t know which is a main title or a subtitle.
  • On the book are text boxes on the sides of the chapter information. The screen reader reads the text from both parts at the same time so I have no way to know which is the text that I should be reading. It makes the reading experience very confusing.

Anybody know a company  that will be able to prepare this document as a word document, in the correct order, with the correct headings on titles and subtitles?

It is urgent guys,

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 


free JAWS scripts available for OE Classic

Sandra Streeter
 

Because I’m still not satisfied with TB, I am seriously considering going with OE Classic, which I just now heard of  thanks to previous posters. I pine for OE in days of old. I discovered a site that offers free JAWS scripts, which facilitate eyes-free use,  so you may want to check it out:
 
 
 
Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)



Re: Erasing a computer's data

Dave Durber
 

Hello Al:
 
I tried using the Windows 10 Update Utility to update one of my Windows 7 Professional computers, with no success.
 
The Update Utility downloaded Windows 10 and installed it on the computer. However, After I got the prompt, which said that windows needed to restart to complete the installation and that Windows might have to restart several times, I pressed ENTER to restart the computer.
 
Well, I have no idea what happened after that. I left the computer alone for about an hour and tried pressing the Windows key combination to start Narrator but, nothing, absolutely nothing. After another hour, I tried again to restart Narrator but, still nothing. So, I gave up and forced a hard shut down of the computer and after about 20 seconds or so, I turned the computer on again, only to find that the computer started in Windows 7 Professional as before.
 
My conclusion is that the Update Utility detected a problem during the reboot process, and got stuck at that point, never to complete its mission. And, of course, without sighted assistance, I will never know what the error was.
 
 In order to make sure that any remnants of Windows 10 or its Update Utility did not remain on the system, I used Revo Uninstaller to first remove them from the computer, then I used CCleaner to check if there were any left over files and folders. Happily, there were not.
 
so, I have come to the conclusion for me at least, performing a fresh install will be the way to go.
 
For those who used the Windows 10 Update Utility with no problems or difficulties, congratulations, I am glad it worked for you.
 
Al, please let us know how the installation of Windows 10 goes for you, I for one, will be very interested.
 
Note 1: Do not bank on the Windows 10 installation, offering a choice of deleting/removing the old partition, before it partitions, formats and installs the new version of Windows. If it is like previous versions of the Windows setup procedure, If an existing partition is detected, do not be surprised if you are given the option to install Windows in whatever free space which is available on the drive. This is why I strongly suggest deleting any partitions on the drive first.
 
Note 2: If the computer has more than one Solid State Drive or hard drive connected to the motherboard or connected to any USB ports, disconnect them all, except of course, the drive on which you intend installing Windows, before turning on the computer and starting the installation from the bootable media.  
 
Sincerely:
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data

Dave,

 

Sounds like a lot of good advice for folks out there.

Regarding a talking installer for Windows 10, not sure if there is one out there labeled that but my understanding is the latest Wind 10 release offers talk from Narrator almost instantly. What I hear is  when booting from an optical drive, or more common these days a flash drive, after the first automatic boot, one can press win key plus ctrl key and enter to get speech from narrator to complete the install. I have not used this yet but am planning on trying this weekend when I set my new Intel NUC7i5bnh barebones kit up. Just need to install the SSD and memory first. I’m curious to find this out personally

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 3:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data

 

Hello Brian:

 

First of all, you cannot format the system drive on any Windows computer while you are running a Windows session.

 

It is not just a question of formatting a system drive in order to remove an installation of Windows from a system drive. You also need to delete the existing partition as well, especially if you intend installing a new version of Windows on the same drive.

 

Even if you wish to use the existing drive as a data drive, I would suggest deleting the old partition, creating a new partition and, of course, formatting the new partition.

 

If you need to recondition the system drive for a computer running Windows, you will probably need to remove the system drive from the particular computer, place it into a caddy, connect the caddy to another computer, then, if it is a computer running Windows Vista, Windows 7, 8, 8.1 or 10, you will need to use the Partition Manager, to delete/remove the old partition.

 

You should wait until the computer running Windows you are going to use, is at the Desktop, before switching on the USB caddy device containing the hard drive on which you wish to delete to partition.

 

I would strongly recommend not connecting the drive directly to another computer's motherboard and then starting that computer. It is possible that elements from the version of Windows on the drive from the other computer, might affect the Windows installed on the host computer. This might also be true, if you turn on the USB caddy device before turning on the Host computer.

 

If you are intending to install Windows 7, you can use the talking install program to do that. As far as I know, there is not a talking installation method for installing Windows 8 or 8.1. There may be a talking install for Windows 10 but, I haven't come across one as yet , despite performing many internet searches.

 

HTH

 

Sincerely:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 2:57 AM

Subject: Erasing a computer's data

 

What’s the simplest way to erase or at the very least format a computer, an old XP machine?

Might I simply type format c: from the command line?

All the best, Brian

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...

 


Re: Erasing a computer's data

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

One tool that might help is Piriform CCleaner. It has a “Drive Wiper” tool that claims to securely erase data from all free space on a disk. CCleaner has several features, and this is one that I have not personally used. However, for the most part, CCleaner does appear to be accessible, and a free version is available.

   -Paul

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian albriton
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Erasing a computer's data

 

What’s the simplest way to erase or at the very least format a computer, an old XP machine?

Might I simply type format c: from the command line?

All the best, Brian

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...

 


Re: Outlook Express Classic question for anyone who has used it

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

That is likely the case.

However, Windows Live Mail will not install on this Win 10 machine.

Outlook Express Classic, which is a brand new, built from the ground up, mail client that looks like Outlook Express 6.0 does work on Windows 10.

Jaws does not read anything however.

So, that is now the issue.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 12:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook Express Classic question for anyone who has used it

 

I believe I know the answer, since that was also my situation.  I am betting your friend is using Windows Live Mail.  For some reason, Microsoft never bothered to change the program name that comes up when you launch WLM, and it faithfully says “outlook Express”.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook Express Classic question for anyone who has used it

 

OK,

So far, you all have been great helps in my attempts to help a friend get his new Win 10 computer setup.

He has some memory issues due to parkinson’s disease along with being blind.

He now tells me that his old computer says something about Outlook Express when he checks Email.

 

I have Outlook Express classic set up and it can send and receive, but jaws reads absolutely nothing in the inbox or outbox.

 

Any help would be hugely appreciated.

 

Richard

 


Re: Outlook Express Classic question for anyone who has used it

Tim Ford
 

I believe I know the answer, since that was also my situation.  I am betting your friend is using Windows Live Mail.  For some reason, Microsoft never bothered to change the program name that comes up when you launch WLM, and it faithfully says “outlook Express”.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook Express Classic question for anyone who has used it

 

OK,

So far, you all have been great helps in my attempts to help a friend get his new Win 10 computer setup.

He has some memory issues due to parkinson’s disease along with being blind.

He now tells me that his old computer says something about Outlook Express when he checks Email.

 

I have Outlook Express classic set up and it can send and receive, but jaws reads absolutely nothing in the inbox or outbox.

 

Any help would be hugely appreciated.

 

Richard

 


Outlook Express Classic question for anyone who has used it

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

OK,

So far, you all have been great helps in my attempts to help a friend get his new Win 10 computer setup.

He has some memory issues due to parkinson’s disease along with being blind.

He now tells me that his old computer says something about Outlook Express when he checks Email.

 

I have Outlook Express classic set up and it can send and receive, but jaws reads absolutely nothing in the inbox or outbox.

 

Any help would be hugely appreciated.

 

Richard

 


Re: Need some Frame help

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Thanks Shannon. But I hope I ain’t ready to jump that much further into JAWS. But one never knows, right?

 

I’ll file that one away in my “Might have to use soon” folder. LOL!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Hi Mike,

I am far and away, no expert. To my understanding, one can create a frame, which is a rectangular section of the screen, they can be set to do various actions. For example, jaws may watch this area for a particular word, any words, words with attributes, and then preform actions on recognition. Upon recognition, it may instruct jaws to do many things, such as read the context of the frame. Say something a predefined text that you make up, route the mouse to the frame, or even run a script. 

If I could get the mastered they could be very useful. Window eyes had a similar feature that I used a lot.

I hope that helps a bit, I found everything I know and they help manual. Shannon

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 12, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:

Sorry for jumping in on this thread a little late. I’m a bit embarrassed to ask; but what is a “Frame”? What is it used for and how does it work?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

I understand but thought that maybe it was reading it when you down arrowed and didn't need the frame.

Dale

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 8:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Jaws often says this kind of text twice. Even in the VFO scripts. So you may not have done anything wrong in your script. :)
On 8/10/2017 7:36 PM, Dale Alton wrote:

What about creating a script that will read the information?

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Dale,

I am not sure why I would nnot want to have the frame active?

I want this to happen every time that the text appears or changes.

Would it not work if it was disabled? Is disabled  the same as inactive?

Thanks

Shannon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Hi Shannon,

What happens when the frame isn't active?

What happens when the frame isn't active?

Hahahaha

The question still remains.

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need some Frame help

 

Hi all,

I have successfully created a frame however it is repeating itself twice.

This particular frame is set to speek when ever text in this area appears.

So as I use the pc curser to go through a list the totals at the bottom of the screan are read after Jaws says the item that it has navigated to.

What I am hearing is the name of the person for whom I need to check the time, then the hour total for regular and over time. But it announces the numbers again right after.

What setting do I have wrong that would cause it to repeat?

Here is the Jaws history so you know what I am hearing.

Employee row 2 Read Only
Dutton, Stephen
157.25 0.25
157.25 0.25

 

Any one know what I did wrong?

Thanks

Shannon

 


Re: Need some Frame help

Shannon
 

Hi Mike,
I am far and away, no expert. To my understanding, one can create a frame, which is a rectangular section of the screen, they can be set to do various actions. For example, jaws may watch this area for a particular word, any words, words with attributes, and then preform actions on recognition. Upon recognition, it may instruct jaws to do many things, such as read the context of the frame. Say something a predefined text that you make up, route the mouse to the frame, or even run a script. 
If I could get the mastered they could be very useful. Window eyes had a similar feature that I used a lot.
I hope that helps a bit, I found everything I know and they help manual. Shannon

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:

Sorry for jumping in on this thread a little late. I’m a bit embarrassed to ask; but what is a “Frame”? What is it used for and how does it work?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

I understand but thought that maybe it was reading it when you down arrowed and didn't need the frame.

Dale

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 8:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Jaws often says this kind of text twice. Even in the VFO scripts. So you may not have done anything wrong in your script. :)
On 8/10/2017 7:36 PM, Dale Alton wrote:

What about creating a script that will read the information?

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Dale,

I am not sure why I would nnot want to have the frame active?

I want this to happen every time that the text appears or changes.

Would it not work if it was disabled? Is disabled  the same as inactive?

Thanks

Shannon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Hi Shannon,

What happens when the frame isn't active?

What happens when the frame isn't active?

Hahahaha

The question still remains.

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need some Frame help

 

Hi all,

I have successfully created a frame however it is repeating itself twice.

This particular frame is set to speek when ever text in this area appears.

So as I use the pc curser to go through a list the totals at the bottom of the screan are read after Jaws says the item that it has navigated to.

What I am hearing is the name of the person for whom I need to check the time, then the hour total for regular and over time. But it announces the numbers again right after.

What setting do I have wrong that would cause it to repeat?

Here is the Jaws history so you know what I am hearing.

Employee row 2 Read Only
Dutton, Stephen
157.25 0.25
157.25 0.25

 

Any one know what I did wrong?

Thanks

Shannon

 


Re: Need some Frame help

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Sorry for jumping in on this thread a little late. I’m a bit embarrassed to ask; but what is a “Frame”? What is it used for and how does it work?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

I understand but thought that maybe it was reading it when you down arrowed and didn't need the frame.

Dale

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 8:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Jaws often says this kind of text twice. Even in the VFO scripts. So you may not have done anything wrong in your script. :)
On 8/10/2017 7:36 PM, Dale Alton wrote:

What about creating a script that will read the information?

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Dale,

I am not sure why I would nnot want to have the frame active?

I want this to happen every time that the text appears or changes.

Would it not work if it was disabled? Is disabled  the same as inactive?

Thanks

Shannon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Hi Shannon,

What happens when the frame isn't active?

What happens when the frame isn't active?

Hahahaha

The question still remains.

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need some Frame help

 

Hi all,

I have successfully created a frame however it is repeating itself twice.

This particular frame is set to speek when ever text in this area appears.

So as I use the pc curser to go through a list the totals at the bottom of the screan are read after Jaws says the item that it has navigated to.

What I am hearing is the name of the person for whom I need to check the time, then the hour total for regular and over time. But it announces the numbers again right after.

What setting do I have wrong that would cause it to repeat?

Here is the Jaws history so you know what I am hearing.

Employee row 2 Read Only
Dutton, Stephen
157.25 0.25
157.25 0.25

 

Any one know what I did wrong?

Thanks

Shannon

 


Re: Need some Frame help

Dale Alton <blinkydale@...>
 

I understand but thought that maybe it was reading it when you down arrowed and didn't need the frame.

Dale

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 8:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Jaws often says this kind of text twice. Even in the VFO scripts. So you may not have done anything wrong in your script. :)
On 8/10/2017 7:36 PM, Dale Alton wrote:

What about creating a script that will read the information?

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Dale,

I am not sure why I would nnot want to have the frame active?

I want this to happen every time that the text appears or changes.

Would it not work if it was disabled? Is disabled  the same as inactive?

Thanks

Shannon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need some Frame help

 

Hi Shannon,

What happens when the frame isn't active?

What happens when the frame isn't active?

Hahahaha

The question still remains.

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need some Frame help

 

Hi all,

I have successfully created a frame however it is repeating itself twice.

This particular frame is set to speek when ever text in this area appears.

So as I use the pc curser to go through a list the totals at the bottom of the screan are read after Jaws says the item that it has navigated to.

What I am hearing is the name of the person for whom I need to check the time, then the hour total for regular and over time. But it announces the numbers again right after.

What setting do I have wrong that would cause it to repeat?

Here is the Jaws history so you know what I am hearing.

Employee row 2 Read Only
Dutton, Stephen
157.25 0.25
157.25 0.25

 

Any one know what I did wrong?

Thanks

Shannon

 


Re: Erasing a computer's data

Peter Tesar
 

Hello,


The latest Windows 10 Iso can be downloaded and then burned to a DVD disk.


Put the disk into the PC to be formatted and then power on. The PC should start with the DVD.


After powering on (with the Win 10 install disk, Use

  CTRL plus ALT plus ENTER


That will bring up Narrator then follow the choices.

I did this only once and do not remember which choices I used to:

     delete, create and format a particular partition.


Peter T



On 8/12/2017 7:36 AM, Alan Robbins wrote:

Dave,

 

Sounds like a lot of good advice for folks out there.

Regarding a talking installer for Windows 10, not sure if there is one out there labeled that but my understanding is the latest Wind 10 release offers talk from Narrator almost instantly. What I hear is  when booting from an optical drive, or more common these days a flash drive, after the first automatic boot, one can press win key plus ctrl key and enter to get speech from narrator to complete the install. I have not used this yet but am planning on trying this weekend when I set my new Intel NUC7i5bnh barebones kit up. Just need to install the SSD and memory first. I’m curious to find this out personally

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 3:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data

 

Hello Brian:

 

First of all, you cannot format the system drive on any Windows computer while you are running a Windows session.

 

It is not just a question of formatting a system drive in order to remove an installation of Windows from a system drive. You also need to delete the existing partition as well, especially if you intend installing a new version of Windows on the same drive.

 

Even if you wish to use the existing drive as a data drive, I would suggest deleting the old partition, creating a new partition and, of course, formatting the new partition.

 

If you need to recondition the system drive for a computer running Windows, you will probably need to remove the system drive from the particular computer, place it into a caddy, connect the caddy to another computer, then, if it is a computer running Windows Vista, Windows 7, 8, 8.1 or 10, you will need to use the Partition Manager, to delete/remove the old partition.

 

You should wait until the computer running Windows you are going to use, is at the Desktop, before switching on the USB caddy device containing the hard drive on which you wish to delete to partition.

 

I would strongly recommend not connecting the drive directly to another computer's motherboard and then starting that computer. It is possible that elements from the version of Windows on the drive from the other computer, might affect the Windows installed on the host computer. This might also be true, if you turn on the USB caddy device before turning on the Host computer.

 

If you are intending to install Windows 7, you can use the talking install program to do that. As far as I know, there is not a talking installation method for installing Windows 8 or 8.1. There may be a talking install for Windows 10 but, I haven't come across one as yet , despite performing many internet searches.

 

HTH

 

Sincerely:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 2:57 AM

Subject: Erasing a computer's data

 

What’s the simplest way to erase or at the very least format a computer, an old XP machine?

Might I simply type format c: from the command line?

All the best, Brian

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

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Re: Erasing a computer's data

Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
 

Dave,

 

Sounds like a lot of good advice for folks out there.

Regarding a talking installer for Windows 10, not sure if there is one out there labeled that but my understanding is the latest Wind 10 release offers talk from Narrator almost instantly. What I hear is  when booting from an optical drive, or more common these days a flash drive, after the first automatic boot, one can press win key plus ctrl key and enter to get speech from narrator to complete the install. I have not used this yet but am planning on trying this weekend when I set my new Intel NUC7i5bnh barebones kit up. Just need to install the SSD and memory first. I’m curious to find this out personally

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 3:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Erasing a computer's data

 

Hello Brian:

 

First of all, you cannot format the system drive on any Windows computer while you are running a Windows session.

 

It is not just a question of formatting a system drive in order to remove an installation of Windows from a system drive. You also need to delete the existing partition as well, especially if you intend installing a new version of Windows on the same drive.

 

Even if you wish to use the existing drive as a data drive, I would suggest deleting the old partition, creating a new partition and, of course, formatting the new partition.

 

If you need to recondition the system drive for a computer running Windows, you will probably need to remove the system drive from the particular computer, place it into a caddy, connect the caddy to another computer, then, if it is a computer running Windows Vista, Windows 7, 8, 8.1 or 10, you will need to use the Partition Manager, to delete/remove the old partition.

 

You should wait until the computer running Windows you are going to use, is at the Desktop, before switching on the USB caddy device containing the hard drive on which you wish to delete to partition.

 

I would strongly recommend not connecting the drive directly to another computer's motherboard and then starting that computer. It is possible that elements from the version of Windows on the drive from the other computer, might affect the Windows installed on the host computer. This might also be true, if you turn on the USB caddy device before turning on the Host computer.

 

If you are intending to install Windows 7, you can use the talking install program to do that. As far as I know, there is not a talking installation method for installing Windows 8 or 8.1. There may be a talking install for Windows 10 but, I haven't come across one as yet , despite performing many internet searches.

 

HTH

 

Sincerely:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 2:57 AM

Subject: Erasing a computer's data

 

What’s the simplest way to erase or at the very least format a computer, an old XP machine?

Might I simply type format c: from the command line?

All the best, Brian

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...

 


Re: seeking JAWS friendly project management and collaboration programs

Joseph Zesski
 

Thanks for the feedback!
Robin, I would appreciate talking with you further on this. I think I
may need to find a tutorial on learning JAWS with Google Docs; I
haven't needed to use them yet and I'm sure the interface is quite
different than Word. I was interested to hear that you use SharePoint.
The main functions that I'll need to use/interact with will be focused
on document sharing and editing. It sounds like this can be doable
with SharePoint. That is hopeful.
Joe

On 7/14/17, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
<Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am a project manager at my company. I rely on Excel for project
management. It's still clunky, but at least accessible. I've not heard
good things about Project.

As for collaboration, we use a few things in our company. Internally we use
network drives, SharePoint, and another project tracking tool called EPPIC.
WE also used to use a wiki media platform. I don't use EPPIC much and
my colleagues aren't thrilled with it. I don't think it's that accessible,
but I'd have to go test it more to be sure.

SharePoint is not bad if you are just adding documents and maintaining
document items. Designing pages does not work well with speech at all as
it's often reading lines well above where the cursor is actually. There is
an accessibility link on the page which essentially makes drop down menus
appear on a new page. I do rely on some of my remaining vision, but I can
test things more if you need help.

Everything we do in our company is behind a firewall. If you are sharing
documents with outside people, you might see if Google docs would work for
you.

Happy to talk more if you'd like. I'm sure we can learn from each other.

Robin Van Lant




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Zesski
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: seeking JAWS friendly project management and collaboration
programs

Hi everyone,
I took over a project management role in my organization. Being new to the
position, I have not worked with different PM software before. Can anyone
recommend a program that is fairly JAWS compatible? And similarly, I am
collaborating on a project with a team at different locations and from
different organizations. Is anyone aware of a collaboration platform that is
JAWS friendly? I have heard the MS SharePoint is somewhat accessible, but
that you must purchase outside tools to help improve its usability. If
anyone is aware of a good platform for project/document sharing, I would
appreciate any tips.
Thanks!
Joe





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Re: Erasing a computer's data

Dave Durber
 

Hello Brian:
 
First of all, you cannot format the system drive on any Windows computer while you are running a Windows session.
 
It is not just a question of formatting a system drive in order to remove an installation of Windows from a system drive. You also need to delete the existing partition as well, especially if you intend installing a new version of Windows on the same drive.
 
Even if you wish to use the existing drive as a data drive, I would suggest deleting the old partition, creating a new partition and, of course, formatting the new partition.
 
If you need to recondition the system drive for a computer running Windows, you will probably need to remove the system drive from the particular computer, place it into a caddy, connect the caddy to another computer, then, if it is a computer running Windows Vista, Windows 7, 8, 8.1 or 10, you will need to use the Partition Manager, to delete/remove the old partition.
 
You should wait until the computer running Windows you are going to use, is at the Desktop, before switching on the USB caddy device containing the hard drive on which you wish to delete to partition.
 
I would strongly recommend not connecting the drive directly to another computer's motherboard and then starting that computer. It is possible that elements from the version of Windows on the drive from the other computer, might affect the Windows installed on the host computer. This might also be true, if you turn on the USB caddy device before turning on the Host computer.
 
If you are intending to install Windows 7, you can use the talking install program to do that. As far as I know, there is not a talking installation method for installing Windows 8 or 8.1. There may be a talking install for Windows 10 but, I haven't come across one as yet , despite performing many internet searches.
 
HTH
 
Sincerely:
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 2:57 AM
Subject: Erasing a computer's data

What’s the simplest way to erase or at the very least format a computer, an old XP machine?

Might I simply type format c: from the command line?

All the best, Brian

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...

 


How do I Disable Scripts?

Rick Miller
 

Dear Listers:

 

Tonight I tried turning on a Google toolbar, but as soon as I did whenever I would go to a page I would get a dialog that said, “Script error.  Do you want to run script on this page?  Yes  No.”  I disabled the Toolbar, thinking that might stop it, but it didn’t.  Now when I go to various Internet pages I get a dialog that is saying, “Script error.  Do you want to run Script on this page?  Yes  No.”  And before I enabled the toolbar, that was not happening.  How can I stop this from happening?

 

 

 

Rick Miller