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Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Chris
 

                Well if I’m allowed an opinion on this group

I would say that nvda is good value for money compared against jaws or other scree readers

Along with a user friendly interface and not unduly over complicated  unlike some screen readers I could mention but better not eh?

 

 

 

 


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Don H
 

Having been a Window Eyes user for some 20 years I did take VFO's offer to switch to Jaws. In my case I found the move to NVDA from being a Window Eyes user easier than making the transistion to Jaws. I just found NVDA easier to learn and it works well with such things as Thunderbird, Google Chrome, MS Edge and MS Office. Keep in mind I am a expert relative to my opinion and others may think that Jaws is the best.


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Moty Azrad
 

Dear friends,

 

For three months, I have a lot of  problems with the latest Jaws 18 – therefore, I started using NVDA intensively.

I fine NVDA AS OUR FUTURE GOOD, FREE AND USEFUL SCREENREADER. Nvda DOeS NOT NEED GRAPHIC CARD AND CAN WORK SOON ON ANY pc ALTHOUGH it does not have all its updates.

NVDA LOADS FASTER THAN ANY OTHER SCREEN READER AND I USED jaws, WINDOW-EYES, etc.

You can use properly the what's called in Jaws, JAWS CURSOR and I can say that NVDA sure is a very very good screen reader and I see it as our future, good, free screen reader.

I must thank to the developers who made fantastic work and send my greetings to Jamie teh – who is going to another adventure – by working for Mozilla.

It's my opinion.

 

Moti

 

 

Moti Azrad

 

Musician & Piano-Tuner

motia@...

azrad_moty@...

motiaz@...

ISRAEL

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

I am curious what you find better about NVDA, other than the fact that it is free, grin.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 6:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

NVDA in my mind is better than Jaws.

 

On 8/9/2017 7:49 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 

 


Need some Frame help

Shannon
 

Hi all,

I have successfully created a frame however it is repeating itself twice.

This particular frame is set to speek when ever text in this area appears.

So as I use the pc curser to go through a list the totals at the bottom of the screan are read after Jaws says the item that it has navigated to.

What I am hearing is the name of the person for whom I need to check the time, then the hour total for regular and over time. But it announces the numbers again right after.

What setting do I have wrong that would cause it to repeat?

Here is the Jaws history so you know what I am hearing.

Employee row 2 Read Only
Dutton, Stephen
157.25 0.25
157.25 0.25

 

Any one know what I did wrong?

Thanks

Shannon


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Alan Robbins
 

Laura,

 

Probably the best advice is to go to their web page, read up on it, download and try it. It is free. I believe there is also a NVDA list but as I’m not using the screen reader or on their mailing list don’t know the particulars. As with anything, each person has their own opinions and this list could debate the pros/cons of this for days. At the end of the day, it will be your personal opinion on its merits or drawbacks that will be your outcome.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

Does it work well with other scanning and reading programs such as open book?

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

NVDA in my mind is better than Jaws.

 

On 8/9/2017 7:49 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 

 


Re: intro to Thunderbird

Maria Campbell
 

The first thing to do is turn off the message pane by pressing f8.  Or, press alt t for tools, go to options, and under general uncheck the first box that says start TB in message area.  Your messages and folders  can then be navigated with tab and arrows.



lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 8/9/2017 12:12 PM, Sandra Streeter wrote:

Hi, everyone,
 
Well, I successfully installed Thunderbird, but am so new to the interface that, obviously, I don’t know what I’m doing yet, in terms of being able to access my list and open (or not) particular messages. Can someone get me started, or send me a link to an online tutorial? As of right now, I’m still using the WLM, since that’s what I’m familiar with. Thanks!
 
 
 
 
Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)




Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Richard Turner
 

Since Openbook is self-voicing, I never tried using it with Openbook.

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

Does it work well with other scanning and reading programs such as open book?

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

NVDA in my mind is better than Jaws.

 

On 8/9/2017 7:49 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 

 


intro to Thunderbird

Sandra Streeter
 

Hi, everyone,
 
Well, I successfully installed Thunderbird, but am so new to the interface that, obviously, I don’t know what I’m doing yet, in terms of being able to access my list and open (or not) particular messages. Can someone get me started, or send me a link to an online tutorial? As of right now, I’m still using the WLM, since that’s what I’m familiar with. Thanks!
 
 
 
 
Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)



Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Laura Richardson
 

Does it work well with other scanning and reading programs such as open book?

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

NVDA in my mind is better than Jaws.

 

On 8/9/2017 7:49 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 

 


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Richard Turner
 

I am curious what you find better about NVDA, other than the fact that it is free, grin.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 6:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

NVDA in my mind is better than Jaws.

 

On 8/9/2017 7:49 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 

 


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Don H
 

The access 32 speech syn is also available that is a much better voice than the default voice


On 8/9/2017 9:06 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

The default voice is awful.

But, for basic tasks, if you have Windows 10, change the synthesizer to SAPI 5 and you will have either David or Hazel I think, which are good voices.

The keystrokes are much like Jaws.

The way it handles the mouse is very different.

I use it as my backup screen reader when Jaws (or in its day, Window-Eyes) lock up.

It takes very few resources.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 5:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws vs NVDA

 

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 



Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Don H
 

NVDA in my mind is better than Jaws.


On 8/9/2017 7:49 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 



Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Richard Turner
 

The default voice is awful.

But, for basic tasks, if you have Windows 10, change the synthesizer to SAPI 5 and you will have either David or Hazel I think, which are good voices.

The keystrokes are much like Jaws.

The way it handles the mouse is very different.

I use it as my backup screen reader when Jaws (or in its day, Window-Eyes) lock up.

It takes very few resources.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 5:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws vs NVDA

 

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 


Re: Thunderbird or Windows Mail scripts for Jaws

Richard Turner
 

Dave,

Thanks, but when I copied it over to my DropBox, it said copying without some of its properties.

And, as might be obvious, won’t install.

 

Could you try zipping up the .exe file and sending it to me directly at

Richardturner42@...

 

Thanks for all the help.

 

Richard

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Thunderbird or Windows Mail scripts for Jaws

 

Hello;

Here’s a link to the windows live mail,

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/osx47m0q1clbwoy/wlsetup-web.exe?dl=0

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 12:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Thunderbird or Windows Mail scripts for Jaws

 

Well, I don’t seem to have anything to open that file.

I thought I had Winzip installed, but I guess not.

Is this a 7zip file?

 

Richard

 

Is

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Thunderbird or Windows Mail scripts for Jaws

 

If you still wish to use Windows Live Mail 2012, which works perfectly fine for IMAP and POP access, I downloaded the offline installer approximately one week before Microsoft pulled it from its site and placed it on my Google Drive, here.  It runs just fine on my Windows 10 laptop and, as of the moment, there are no new known security issues with it, yet, and there may be no more since it's not a particularly tempting target now that it's out of support.  You do need to do occasional web searches to see if something does crop up.  Right now the only things I'm finding are the old, and unfounded, concerns about the preview pane and infections.  Every e-mail client I know of uses a preview pane (by default, anyway) and all have ensured that nothing is executed as part of showing that preview.
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

 
If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Mike Rogers
 

Hi. I have both, but don't use NVDA very much. The mouse keys don't function, like they do with Jaws or Window eyes. Also, I use the Vocalizer Tom for voice and prefer it over the NVDa voices. Just my opinion and I'm not very skilled in using all the functions of screenreaders.

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 07:49:29 -0500
"Laura Richardson" <laurakr65@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,



I'd never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently .. I have only
heard of and used Jaws. I am curious and have quite a few questions but
I'll narrow it down to this one for now .. Is there much difference in the
capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?
Thanks in advance for your input.



Laura







Jaws vs NVDA

Laura Richardson
 

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 


blocking text in a text editor

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Hi,

 

Using control windows k and insert space then m, it is possible to block text in Word, Outlook and the net but I can’t find any easy method of blocking text in a text editor.  Well, apart from the Windows command like holding down the shift key while moving the cursor from the starting point to the end of the desired text however distant that may be.  This can be very awkward if the text to be blocked runs over a page or three.

 

 

Does Jaws 18 have a simpler method of blocking text in a text editor?

 

Thanks

Tom


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Re: Function Keys

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Carolyn. Laptop keyboards don't have certain keys like Page-up and
Page-down, Home and End. This FN key turns other keys into some of these
missing keys on a laptop keyboard. It's commonly called a metakey.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Function Keys

What is that FN key for anyway?

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Function Keys

Hello;

Regarding the email, there's also a standalone outlook
express available, which works with windows 7,8,&10.







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Function Keys



Brilliant! Function key plus escape did the trick.

It is a Del Inspiron 5000 series.



Thanks,

Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Function Keys



Not sure what type of computer your client has,

But you can check in the windows mobility center,

Windows+x/b,

Now look for,

Using the tab keys change function keys,

Or, you can try, FNKey+escape,

One press should change it to normal function keys.

Again not knowing the model, it's hard to give exact
directions.





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Function Keys



On the new Windows 10 computer I am helping a friend set up,
does anyone know where to go to stop Windows 10 from
requiring the function key in order to use the standard
F-keys?

Right now, to quit Jaws, you have to manage
insert+function+f4. Not useful.



I did it a couple years ago but cannot remember how I did
that on my computer.



Thanks,

Richard


Re: Function Keys

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

What is that FN key for anyway?

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Function Keys

Hello;

Regarding the email, there's also a standalone outlook
express available, which works with windows 7,8,&10.







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Function Keys



Brilliant! Function key plus escape did the trick.

It is a Del Inspiron 5000 series.



Thanks,

Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Function Keys



Not sure what type of computer your client has,

But you can check in the windows mobility center,

Windows+x/b,

Now look for,

Using the tab keys change function keys,

Or, you can try, FNKey+escape,

One press should change it to normal function keys.

Again not knowing the model, it's hard to give exact
directions.





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Function Keys



On the new Windows 10 computer I am helping a friend set up,
does anyone know where to go to stop Windows 10 from
requiring the function key in order to use the standard
F-keys?

Right now, to quit Jaws, you have to manage
insert+function+f4. Not useful.



I did it a couple years ago but cannot remember how I did
that on my computer.



Thanks,

Richard


Re: Function Keys

Michael Mote
 

Hi there!  You may want to try in the Windows Mobility center.  Some models allow you to change the settings there.  If not, you may have to go into your Bios settings, which means you will need sighted assistance.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Function Keys

 

On the new Windows 10 computer I am helping a friend set up, does anyone know where to go to stop Windows 10 from requiring the function key in order to use the standard F-keys?

Right now, to quit Jaws, you have to manage insert+function+f4.  Not useful.

 

I did it a couple years ago but cannot remember how I did that on my computer.

 

Thanks,

Richard