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Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Maria Campbell
 

Holy moly.  I just looked it up and it uses a four key combo for place markers.  I guess I'd better change to caps lock for NVDA key for sure.



lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 8/9/2017 1:25 PM, Michael Mote wrote:

Hi there!  You can configure the key that you want to use for the NVDA key.  Simply launch NVDA, and then press either Insert or caps lock plus the letter N to go into the NVDA menus.  Under preferences, find the option that says keyboard options.  Enter to open that menu, and make your selections there.  You can use either the Insert or caps lock key

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

But does it use an acrobatic key combo like three keys or very far flung keys?  Even JAWS has weird and hard to do combos for people with small hands like me.

 

lucky1inct@...
 
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 8/9/2017 1:10 PM, Don H wrote:

There is a Place marker addon for NVDA.

 

On 8/9/2017 12:07 PM, Michael Mote wrote:

Hi Maria!  I haven’t found a place marker equivalent in NVDA either.  That would be nice.  Perhaps, there is an add-on for that.

As far as the find feature.  If you press NVDA key plus control plus the letter F, the find dialog box pops up.  This works like the JAWS find function, with the NVDA key replacing the JAWs key or insert key. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

One very important feature of JAWS that I like, not yet found or perhaps perfected in NVDA, is the ability to use place markers on web pages.  Also, and perhaps this is my fault, I haven't found the control f for find to work in NVDA as it does in JAWS.

 

lucky1inct@...
 
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 8/9/2017 12:41 PM, Chris wrote:

                Well if I’m allowed an opinion on this group

I would say that nvda is good value for money compared against jaws or other scree readers

Along with a user friendly interface and not unduly over complicated  unlike some screen readers I could mention but better not eh?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Michael Mote
 

Hi there!  You can configure the key that you want to use for the NVDA key.  Simply launch NVDA, and then press either Insert or caps lock plus the letter N to go into the NVDA menus.  Under preferences, find the option that says keyboard options.  Enter to open that menu, and make your selections there.  You can use either the Insert or caps lock key

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

But does it use an acrobatic key combo like three keys or very far flung keys?  Even JAWS has weird and hard to do combos for people with small hands like me.

 

lucky1inct@...
 
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 8/9/2017 1:10 PM, Don H wrote:

There is a Place marker addon for NVDA.

 

On 8/9/2017 12:07 PM, Michael Mote wrote:

Hi Maria!  I haven’t found a place marker equivalent in NVDA either.  That would be nice.  Perhaps, there is an add-on for that.

As far as the find feature.  If you press NVDA key plus control plus the letter F, the find dialog box pops up.  This works like the JAWS find function, with the NVDA key replacing the JAWs key or insert key. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

One very important feature of JAWS that I like, not yet found or perhaps perfected in NVDA, is the ability to use place markers on web pages.  Also, and perhaps this is my fault, I haven't found the control f for find to work in NVDA as it does in JAWS.

 

lucky1inct@...
 
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 8/9/2017 12:41 PM, Chris wrote:

                Well if I’m allowed an opinion on this group

I would say that nvda is good value for money compared against jaws or other scree readers

Along with a user friendly interface and not unduly over complicated  unlike some screen readers I could mention but better not eh?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Maria Campbell
 

Thanks.


lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 8/9/2017 1:07 PM, Michael Mote wrote:

Hi Maria!  I haven’t found a place marker equivalent in NVDA either.  That would be nice.  Perhaps, there is an add-on for that.

As far as the find feature.  If you press NVDA key plus control plus the letter F, the find dialog box pops up.  This works like the JAWS find function, with the NVDA key replacing the JAWs key or insert key. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

One very important feature of JAWS that I like, not yet found or perhaps perfected in NVDA, is the ability to use place markers on web pages.  Also, and perhaps this is my fault, I haven't found the control f for find to work in NVDA as it does in JAWS.

 

lucky1inct@...
 
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 8/9/2017 12:41 PM, Chris wrote:

                Well if I’m allowed an opinion on this group

I would say that nvda is good value for money compared against jaws or other scree readers

Along with a user friendly interface and not unduly over complicated  unlike some screen readers I could mention but better not eh?

 

 

 

 

 



Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Maria Campbell
 

But does it use an acrobatic key combo like three keys or very far flung keys?  Even JAWS has weird and hard to do combos for people with small hands like me.

 

lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 8/9/2017 1:10 PM, Don H wrote:

There is a Place marker addon for NVDA.


On 8/9/2017 12:07 PM, Michael Mote wrote:

Hi Maria!  I haven’t found a place marker equivalent in NVDA either.  That would be nice.  Perhaps, there is an add-on for that.

As far as the find feature.  If you press NVDA key plus control plus the letter F, the find dialog box pops up.  This works like the JAWS find function, with the NVDA key replacing the JAWs key or insert key. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

One very important feature of JAWS that I like, not yet found or perhaps perfected in NVDA, is the ability to use place markers on web pages.  Also, and perhaps this is my fault, I haven't found the control f for find to work in NVDA as it does in JAWS.

 

lucky1inct@...
 
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 8/9/2017 12:41 PM, Chris wrote:

                Well if I’m allowed an opinion on this group

I would say that nvda is good value for money compared against jaws or other scree readers

Along with a user friendly interface and not unduly over complicated  unlike some screen readers I could mention but better not eh?

 

 

 

 

 




Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Don H
 

There is a Place marker addon for NVDA.


On 8/9/2017 12:07 PM, Michael Mote wrote:

Hi Maria!  I haven’t found a place marker equivalent in NVDA either.  That would be nice.  Perhaps, there is an add-on for that.

As far as the find feature.  If you press NVDA key plus control plus the letter F, the find dialog box pops up.  This works like the JAWS find function, with the NVDA key replacing the JAWs key or insert key. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

One very important feature of JAWS that I like, not yet found or perhaps perfected in NVDA, is the ability to use place markers on web pages.  Also, and perhaps this is my fault, I haven't found the control f for find to work in NVDA as it does in JAWS.

 

lucky1inct@...
 
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 8/9/2017 12:41 PM, Chris wrote:

                Well if I’m allowed an opinion on this group

I would say that nvda is good value for money compared against jaws or other scree readers

Along with a user friendly interface and not unduly over complicated  unlike some screen readers I could mention but better not eh?

 

 

 

 

 



Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Maria Campbell
 

How would one acquire this synthesizer? I'm able to use Eloquence because it comes unlocked in my Kurzweil program.



lucky1inct@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 8/9/2017 1:04 PM, Víctor Hugo Vargas wrote:
2017-08-09 9:13 GMT-05:00, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net>:
The access 32 speech syn is also available that is a much better voice
than the default voice


On 8/9/2017 9:06 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
The default voice is awful.

But, for basic tasks, if you have Windows 10, change the synthesizer
to SAPI 5 and you will have either David or Hazel I think, which are
good voices.

The keystrokes are much like Jaws.

The way it handles the mouse is very different.

I use it as my backup screen reader when Jaws (or in its day,
Window-Eyes) lock up.

It takes very few resources.

Richard

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Laura Richardson
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 9, 2017 5:49 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Jaws vs NVDA

Hello,

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have
only heard of and used Jaws. I am curious and have quite a few
questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much
difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do
regarding work and home use? Thanks in advance for your input.

Laura


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Michael Mote
 

Hi Maria!  I haven’t found a place marker equivalent in NVDA either.  That would be nice.  Perhaps, there is an add-on for that.

As far as the find feature.  If you press NVDA key plus control plus the letter F, the find dialog box pops up.  This works like the JAWS find function, with the NVDA key replacing the JAWs key or insert key. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

One very important feature of JAWS that I like, not yet found or perhaps perfected in NVDA, is the ability to use place markers on web pages.  Also, and perhaps this is my fault, I haven't found the control f for find to work in NVDA as it does in JAWS.

 

lucky1inct@...
 
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 8/9/2017 12:41 PM, Chris wrote:

                Well if I’m allowed an opinion on this group

I would say that nvda is good value for money compared against jaws or other scree readers

Along with a user friendly interface and not unduly over complicated  unlike some screen readers I could mention but better not eh?

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Víctor Hugo Vargas
 

2017-08-09 9:13 GMT-05:00, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net>:

The access 32 speech syn is also available that is a much better voice
than the default voice


On 8/9/2017 9:06 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

The default voice is awful.

But, for basic tasks, if you have Windows 10, change the synthesizer
to SAPI 5 and you will have either David or Hazel I think, which are
good voices.

The keystrokes are much like Jaws.

The way it handles the mouse is very different.

I use it as my backup screen reader when Jaws (or in its day,
Window-Eyes) lock up.

It takes very few resources.

Richard

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Laura Richardson
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 9, 2017 5:49 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Jaws vs NVDA

Hello,

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have
only heard of and used Jaws. I am curious and have quite a few
questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much
difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do
regarding work and home use? Thanks in advance for your input.

Laura

--
Solución a problemas legales en : www.vargaschavarriabogados.com


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Maria Campbell
 

One very important feature of JAWS that I like, not yet found or perhaps perfected in NVDA, is the ability to use place markers on web pages.  Also, and perhaps this is my fault, I haven't found the control f for find to work in NVDA as it does in JAWS.


lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 8/9/2017 12:41 PM, Chris wrote:

                Well if I’m allowed an opinion on this group

I would say that nvda is good value for money compared against jaws or other scree readers

Along with a user friendly interface and not unduly over complicated  unlike some screen readers I could mention but better not eh?

 

 

 

 



Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Chris
 

                Well if I’m allowed an opinion on this group

I would say that nvda is good value for money compared against jaws or other scree readers

Along with a user friendly interface and not unduly over complicated  unlike some screen readers I could mention but better not eh?

 

 

 

 


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Don H
 

Having been a Window Eyes user for some 20 years I did take VFO's offer to switch to Jaws. In my case I found the move to NVDA from being a Window Eyes user easier than making the transistion to Jaws. I just found NVDA easier to learn and it works well with such things as Thunderbird, Google Chrome, MS Edge and MS Office. Keep in mind I am a expert relative to my opinion and others may think that Jaws is the best.


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Moty Azrad
 

Dear friends,

 

For three months, I have a lot of  problems with the latest Jaws 18 – therefore, I started using NVDA intensively.

I fine NVDA AS OUR FUTURE GOOD, FREE AND USEFUL SCREENREADER. Nvda DOeS NOT NEED GRAPHIC CARD AND CAN WORK SOON ON ANY pc ALTHOUGH it does not have all its updates.

NVDA LOADS FASTER THAN ANY OTHER SCREEN READER AND I USED jaws, WINDOW-EYES, etc.

You can use properly the what's called in Jaws, JAWS CURSOR and I can say that NVDA sure is a very very good screen reader and I see it as our future, good, free screen reader.

I must thank to the developers who made fantastic work and send my greetings to Jamie teh – who is going to another adventure – by working for Mozilla.

It's my opinion.

 

Moti

 

 

Moti Azrad

 

Musician & Piano-Tuner

motia@...

azrad_moty@...

motiaz@...

ISRAEL

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

I am curious what you find better about NVDA, other than the fact that it is free, grin.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 6:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

NVDA in my mind is better than Jaws.

 

On 8/9/2017 7:49 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 

 


Need some Frame help

Shannon
 

Hi all,

I have successfully created a frame however it is repeating itself twice.

This particular frame is set to speek when ever text in this area appears.

So as I use the pc curser to go through a list the totals at the bottom of the screan are read after Jaws says the item that it has navigated to.

What I am hearing is the name of the person for whom I need to check the time, then the hour total for regular and over time. But it announces the numbers again right after.

What setting do I have wrong that would cause it to repeat?

Here is the Jaws history so you know what I am hearing.

Employee row 2 Read Only
Dutton, Stephen
157.25 0.25
157.25 0.25

 

Any one know what I did wrong?

Thanks

Shannon


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Alan Robbins
 

Laura,

 

Probably the best advice is to go to their web page, read up on it, download and try it. It is free. I believe there is also a NVDA list but as I’m not using the screen reader or on their mailing list don’t know the particulars. As with anything, each person has their own opinions and this list could debate the pros/cons of this for days. At the end of the day, it will be your personal opinion on its merits or drawbacks that will be your outcome.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

Does it work well with other scanning and reading programs such as open book?

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

NVDA in my mind is better than Jaws.

 

On 8/9/2017 7:49 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 

 


Re: intro to Thunderbird

Maria Campbell
 

The first thing to do is turn off the message pane by pressing f8.  Or, press alt t for tools, go to options, and under general uncheck the first box that says start TB in message area.  Your messages and folders  can then be navigated with tab and arrows.



lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 8/9/2017 12:12 PM, Sandra Streeter wrote:

Hi, everyone,
 
Well, I successfully installed Thunderbird, but am so new to the interface that, obviously, I don’t know what I’m doing yet, in terms of being able to access my list and open (or not) particular messages. Can someone get me started, or send me a link to an online tutorial? As of right now, I’m still using the WLM, since that’s what I’m familiar with. Thanks!
 
 
 
 
Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)




Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Richard Turner
 

Since Openbook is self-voicing, I never tried using it with Openbook.

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

Does it work well with other scanning and reading programs such as open book?

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

NVDA in my mind is better than Jaws.

 

On 8/9/2017 7:49 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 

 


intro to Thunderbird

Sandra Streeter
 

Hi, everyone,
 
Well, I successfully installed Thunderbird, but am so new to the interface that, obviously, I don’t know what I’m doing yet, in terms of being able to access my list and open (or not) particular messages. Can someone get me started, or send me a link to an online tutorial? As of right now, I’m still using the WLM, since that’s what I’m familiar with. Thanks!
 
 
 
 
Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)



Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Laura Richardson
 

Does it work well with other scanning and reading programs such as open book?

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

NVDA in my mind is better than Jaws.

 

On 8/9/2017 7:49 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 

 


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Richard Turner
 

I am curious what you find better about NVDA, other than the fact that it is free, grin.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 6:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws vs NVDA

 

NVDA in my mind is better than Jaws.

 

On 8/9/2017 7:49 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura

 

      

 

 


Re: Jaws vs NVDA

Don H
 

The access 32 speech syn is also available that is a much better voice than the default voice


On 8/9/2017 9:06 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

The default voice is awful.

But, for basic tasks, if you have Windows 10, change the synthesizer to SAPI 5 and you will have either David or Hazel I think, which are good voices.

The keystrokes are much like Jaws.

The way it handles the mouse is very different.

I use it as my backup screen reader when Jaws (or in its day, Window-Eyes) lock up.

It takes very few resources.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 5:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws vs NVDA

 

Hello,

 

I’d never heard of NVDA screen reader until just recently …… I have only heard of and used Jaws.  I am curious and have quite a few questions but I’ll narrow it down to this one for now …… Is there much difference in the capabilities of what each screen reader can do regarding work and home use?  Thanks in advance for your input.

 

Laura