Speaking numbers.
Shannon
Good afternoon again all, I hope you all are going to help me get numbers to read the way I was used to hearing them. Can I have jaws say 317902 as three hundred seventeen thousand nine hundred two along with being able to hear 1975 as nineteen seventy five? I can’t figure out the right configuration of the settings to allow this. I was using Eloquence Read before with Window Eyes, and the jaws eloquence Read doesn’t want to say the numbers that way. I tried to switch to the vocalizer voices but I am not getting Samantha to read those numbers the way I want either. Is there a way to do this? Thanks Shannon
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Change pronunciation question
Shannon
Good afternoon,
I have a Pronunciation question
How do I find the place to change the way jaws says 5gl? I am hearing Gigga Liters. It is going to have been predefined somewhere to say that when it incounters 5gl or 5GL I would prefer to haear just GL or gl. I am hearing it here in Outlook 2010 and also in Excel 2010.
Thanks Shannon
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Re: Fonts change in latest JAWS
Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
Hi Again,
Paul,
A quick note,
don't use the updating option that's in Jaws! Allow it to notify you, but
that's it! Always go to the FS VFO website,, download the build you want,
& run / install it from your computer. Also, whenever there's a Jaws
update I always post the direct download links with what's new for the new
build. FS VFO also recommends not using the Jaws update option as well,
they recommend downloading from their website & installing from your
computer.
Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Martz
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Fonts change in latest JAWS font, size, bold, italics, etc, of icons and menus. This will allow my wife to set it to whatever she wants. But I still believe the fact that a JAWS install changes these settings at all is an issue for Freedom Scientific to investigate and resolve. -Paul > -----Original Message----- > > Hi all. The latest JAWS 18.0.4104 seems to have affected the system font in Windows 7. > > Let me explain. My sighted wife and I both have Win7 PCs, but we have JAWS on both PCs in case I need to do some > system admin stuff on her computer. Recently, I was on her computer, and JAWS prompted me to upgrade to the latest > 18.0.4104. > After doing so, my wife sat down to use her computer, and immediately reported a change in the fonts - the icon name > under desktop icons, the names of menus in the menu bars of applications such as MS Word and Google Chrome, etc. I > had her come over and look at my PC, already on 18.0.4104, and she reported the same issue on my system. > > Of course, with my crappy eyesight, I didn't notice any font change on either system. But I do have enough residual vision > that I can use ZoomText (from AISquared) to enlarge the fonts so that they are large enough for me to see. And they look > fine to me, single-pixel width fonts as I would expect. Yet my (non-technical) wife complains of a change. > > She says they look "lower resolution". She says the font size hasn't changed, the icon and menu names are the same size. > But she says the letters seems to be drawn thinner, they aren't as bold as they used to be, and as a result, they are harder > for her to see. Well, I am low vision, as I said, and my fonts have always appeared this way to me when I examine them > closely. > > I'm left with the conclusion that my wife had somehow done some non-default customization to her system fonts, and > the latest JAWS somehow undid this customization. Unfortunately, just poking around in system settings, I did not > immediately find any controls that would affect system font appearance. > > Okay, I know most JFW list readers are blind, so I'm not expecting to find Windows font experts on this list. LOL. But > perhaps someone at Freedom Scientific will read this post, and perhaps they know something about the issue, and how I > might go about restoring my wife's computer fonts to their previous state. > > Thanks for any help. > -Paul > > > >
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Re: accessible password manager
Randy Barnett <randy@...>
What about "Keeper" that MS put in my
start menu?
On 8/7/2017 12:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Password Safe and its ports for iOS and Android.
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Re: Fonts change in latest JAWS
Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
Hi
Paul,
To my knowledge
no one from FS / VFO is a member of this list. But, nowhere does it say
that you have to be totally blind to use Jaws! Cll FS / VFO tech support,
& explain that you are low vision, that updating to the latest J18 build
screwed up your settings, & ask them if they can show you how to get
your settings back to being brighter or however else you need them. Don't
tell them anything about your wife's computer just act like they're both your
computers. I don't advocate lying, but sometimes they just don't need to
know everything. LOL
Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Martz
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 10:20 AM
Subject: Fonts change in latest JAWS Let me explain. My sighted wife and I both have Win7 PCs, but we have JAWS on both PCs in case I need to do some system admin stuff on her computer. Recently, I was on her computer, and JAWS prompted me to upgrade to the latest 18.0.4104. After doing so, my wife sat down to use her computer, and immediately reported a change in the fonts - the icon name under desktop icons, the names of menus in the menu bars of applications such as MS Word and Google Chrome, etc. I had her come over and look at my PC, already on 18.0.4104, and she reported the same issue on my system. Of course, with my crappy eyesight, I didn't notice any font change on either system. But I do have enough residual vision that I can use ZoomText (from AISquared) to enlarge the fonts so that they are large enough for me to see. And they look fine to me, single-pixel width fonts as I would expect. Yet my (non-technical) wife complains of a change. She says they look "lower resolution". She says the font size hasn't changed, the icon and menu names are the same size. But she says the letters seems to be drawn thinner, they aren't as bold as they used to be, and as a result, they are harder for her to see. Well, I am low vision, as I said, and my fonts have always appeared this way to me when I examine them closely. I'm left with the conclusion that my wife had somehow done some non-default customization to her system fonts, and the latest JAWS somehow undid this customization. Unfortunately, just poking around in system settings, I did not immediately find any controls that would affect system font appearance. Okay, I know most JFW list readers are blind, so I'm not expecting to find Windows font experts on this list. LOL. But perhaps someone at Freedom Scientific will read this post, and perhaps they know something about the issue, and how I might go about restoring my wife's computer fonts to their previous state. Thanks for any help. -Paul
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Re: accessible password manager
Password Safe and its ports for iOS and Android.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063 (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)
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Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list
Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@...>
Hi,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
The Openbook users list that has been around for years has not been properly moderated in several years. No one has been minding the group so no new members have been added. I, and others that I know, have tried several times unsuccessfully to join and our attempts have always timed out without anyone acting on our join requests. However, there is another one that has only been around for about two years and is on groups.io so it is rather small and the traffic is light. But at least it accepts members. And when someone posts there is usually a response. Openbook+subscribe@groups.io Is the subscribe address if I am not mistaken. Hope that helps. Merv
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 7:46 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list I am not sure it is an active list as I still have heard nothing from it. I went to Freedom Scientific's page and searched for lists and found it. I'll ask tech support when I call them if one exists. Richard On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:42 AM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
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Re: Fonts change in latest JAWS
Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
Replying to my own post here... I finally found the "Window Color and Appearance" dialog, which allows me to set the
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font, size, bold, italics, etc, of icons and menus. This will allow my wife to set it to whatever she wants. But I still believe the fact that a JAWS install changes these settings at all is an issue for Freedom Scientific to investigate and resolve. -Paul
-----Original Message-----vision that I can use ZoomText (from AISquared) to enlarge the fonts so that they are large enough for me to see. And theylook fine to me, single-pixel width fonts as I would expect. Yet my (non-technical) wife complains of a change.size. But she says the letters seems to be drawn thinner, they aren't as bold as they used to be, and as a result, they areharder for her to see. Well, I am low vision, as I said, and my fonts have always appeared this way to me when I examine them
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Fonts change in latest JAWS
Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
Hi all. The latest JAWS 18.0.4104 seems to have affected the system font in Windows 7.
Let me explain. My sighted wife and I both have Win7 PCs, but we have JAWS on both PCs in case I need to do some system admin stuff on her computer. Recently, I was on her computer, and JAWS prompted me to upgrade to the latest 18.0.4104. After doing so, my wife sat down to use her computer, and immediately reported a change in the fonts - the icon name under desktop icons, the names of menus in the menu bars of applications such as MS Word and Google Chrome, etc. I had her come over and look at my PC, already on 18.0.4104, and she reported the same issue on my system. Of course, with my crappy eyesight, I didn't notice any font change on either system. But I do have enough residual vision that I can use ZoomText (from AISquared) to enlarge the fonts so that they are large enough for me to see. And they look fine to me, single-pixel width fonts as I would expect. Yet my (non-technical) wife complains of a change. She says they look "lower resolution". She says the font size hasn't changed, the icon and menu names are the same size. But she says the letters seems to be drawn thinner, they aren't as bold as they used to be, and as a result, they are harder for her to see. Well, I am low vision, as I said, and my fonts have always appeared this way to me when I examine them closely. I'm left with the conclusion that my wife had somehow done some non-default customization to her system fonts, and the latest JAWS somehow undid this customization. Unfortunately, just poking around in system settings, I did not immediately find any controls that would affect system font appearance. Okay, I know most JFW list readers are blind, so I'm not expecting to find Windows font experts on this list. LOL. But perhaps someone at Freedom Scientific will read this post, and perhaps they know something about the issue, and how I might go about restoring my wife's computer fonts to their previous state. Thanks for any help. -Paul
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Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list
Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
Richard,
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It is possible that it is in active list, however, I unsubscribe from about a year ago simply due to their never being any activity. Also, from my recollection, it is a Yahoo-based groups and with some other Yahoo! Groups lately I have had difficulty subscribing to and unsubscribing from using their links.
On Aug 7, 2017, at 7:45 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
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Re: accessible password manager
Jonas Voll
Keepass, & Tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqS9MVEN4QY&t=26s
Jonas
Voll Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 7:40 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: accessible password manager
Keeping it in a text file or even a password protected Excel or file on the computer may be OK if you are just at home where you can access the information and if you only want to access it on your computer. For me this wouldn’t work because I need not just passwords but as Pablo said other important information accessible at home as well as at my business on several computers and also want this access on my iPhone when I’m out and about. I hear a lot of people use One Password or Lastpass, I started out with Roboform a very long time ago and it continues to work well for me. The iOS app is also very accessible and you can store passwords, bookmarks (which are not password protected), SafeNotes which can be long notes and it even has a contact section which I don’t use. The Roboform Everywhere service costs a bit, but it’s not expensive, maybe $20 a year or so and a while back they had a special where I think it was $75 for 7 or 8 years. Many website you can open right from Roboform, if, for example, I want to log in to my online banking I press Insert+F11 to bring up the system tray icons, type
Best regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
I have heard of this but never really read up on it too much as I’ve been doing my method for so many years, I cannot imagine the work in migrating to this process. Did you begin with this or go to it after some time?
Al
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Cristóbal
I use 1password. Fully Jaws acessible. Same with their iOS app if you use that platform. They have an android app, but as I don’t use android, I couldn’t tell you as far as accessibility. I pay for the family plan as I have my wife and parents and sister on it as well. Everyone’s happy with it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Hi all, Any suggestion about a good password manager. I don’t know if this kind of software is called like that, but I am looking a software that allow me to store users names, passwords, but also other information like account numbers, credit card numbers. So should be something that manage passwords, but also other kind of personal information. Thanks for any advice regarding this software.
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Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
I am not sure it is an active list as I still have heard nothing from it. I went to Freedom Scientific's page and searched for lists and found it. I'll ask tech support when I call them if one exists.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Richard
On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:42 AM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
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Jaws and MS Edge
Don H
When is Jaws supposed to start fully supporting Microsoft Edge?
Thanks
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Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list
Don H
How do you sign up for the Open Book users list?
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AVAST FREE ANTI VIRUS
marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
HI. INSTALLED AVAST FREE ANTI VIRUS AND NOW SAYS MY LICENCE HAS EXPIRED AND NOW NOT THE MOST ACCESSIBLE GUI. IS THERE A MORE ACCESSIBLE AVAST FREE ANTI VIRUS. DID TRY TO REPAIR WITH JAWS 18. WINDOWS 10 64 BIT PRO. ANY HELP. THABNKS.
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Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list
Dave...
Kevin,
In Openbook, go to your preferences and see where
the files are being stored by default.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin
Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 09:23
Subject: Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on
the Openbook users list I thought I would check this out; my document saved just fine, but now I cannot find it. I used to go to Open Book on the desk top, hit enter on Open Book, and arrow down to my Open Book documents. Now Open Book opens, and I do not know where my saved Open Book documents are? Cheers Kevin.
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Hello Richard,
I do not have any idea what is going on with your system but, have you tried naming and saving a file before you start scanning. OB has been bad about crashing on me for years on many many different computers including Win10 Creator 64 bit.
I learned a long time ago to name and save a file before I scanned too many pages. If it crashes before you save, you loose every thing that you scanned. Not so good if you have scanned a lot of pages. And, for me, I have far less crashes if the file has been named. I definitely do not know why.
While this information probably doesn’t help you very much, maybe it will save you a little time.
Good luck with tech support Monday.
James B
From: Ashleigh Piccinino Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 12:35 AM Subject: Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list
Haven’t used it in a while so can’t tell ya, sorry about that! However, yes, I do use ob for some things when I can
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From:
Richard Turner
If there are any OpenBook 9 users running Windows 10 Creator Edition, 64 bit; have you had any issues with saving files after scanning? On my system, I get the nebulous error message that something has stopped Openbook from working and Windows will close the program, etc.
I have corresponded with tech support and I tried their repair steps, didn’t work. I tried their suggestion of uninstalling and reinstalling it into a custom location, still not working. I did not remove shared components because I thought that would mess up my Jaws installation. Any thoughts before I have to call tech support on Monday?
Thanks, Richard
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Re: accessible password manager
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Keeping it in a text file or even a password protected Excel or file on the computer may be OK if you are just at home where you can access the information and if you only want to access it on your computer. For me this wouldn’t work because I need not just passwords but as Pablo said other important information accessible at home as well as at my business on several computers and also want this access on my iPhone when I’m out and about. I hear a lot of people use One Password or Lastpass, I started out with Roboform a very long time ago and it continues to work well for me. The iOS app is also very accessible and you can store passwords, bookmarks (which are not password protected), SafeNotes which can be long notes and it even has a contact section which I don’t use. The Roboform Everywhere service costs a bit, but it’s not expensive, maybe $20 a year or so and a while back they had a special where I think it was $75 for 7 or 8 years. Many website you can open right from Roboform, if, for example, I want to log in to my online banking I press Insert+F11 to bring up the system tray icons, type
Best regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 4:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: accessible password manager
I have heard of this but never really read up on it too much as I’ve been doing my method for so many years, I cannot imagine the work in migrating to this process. Did you begin with this or go to it after some time?
Al
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Cristóbal
I use 1password. Fully Jaws acessible. Same with their iOS app if you use that platform. They have an android app, but as I don’t use android, I couldn’t tell you as far as accessibility. I pay for the family plan as I have my wife and parents and sister on it as well. Everyone’s happy with it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Hi all, Any suggestion about a good password manager. I don’t know if this kind of software is called like that, but I am looking a software that allow me to store users names, passwords, but also other information like account numbers, credit card numbers. So should be something that manage passwords, but also other kind of personal information. Thanks for any advice regarding this software.
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Re: accessible password manager
Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
I have heard of this but never really read up on it too much as I’ve been doing my method for so many years, I cannot imagine the work in migrating to this process. Did you begin with this or go to it after some time?
Al
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 7:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: accessible password manager
I use 1password. Fully Jaws acessible. Same with their iOS app if you use that platform. They have an android app, but as I don’t use android, I couldn’t tell you as far as accessibility. I pay for the family plan as I have my wife and parents and sister on it as well. Everyone’s happy with it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Hi all, Any suggestion about a good password manager. I don’t know if this kind of software is called like that, but I am looking a software that allow me to store users names, passwords, but also other information like account numbers, credit card numbers. So should be something that manage passwords, but also other kind of personal information. Thanks for any advice regarding this software.
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Re: accessible password manager
Cristóbal
I use 1password. Fully Jaws acessible. Same with their iOS app if you use that platform. They have an android app, but as I don’t use android, I couldn’t tell you as far as accessibility. I pay for the family plan as I have my wife and parents and sister on it as well. Everyone’s happy with it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 7:34 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: accessible password manager
Hi all, Any suggestion about a good password manager. I don’t know if this kind of software is called like that, but I am looking a software that allow me to store users names, passwords, but also other information like account numbers, credit card numbers. So should be something that manage passwords, but also other kind of personal information. Thanks for any advice regarding this software.
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Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list
Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
Hi
Kevin,
To find the
default location of your saved files trythe the following:
1. Open Openbook,
& press, Alt + G, to open Settings.
2. Press the
letter, G, to open General Settings, or arrow down to it , & press
enter.
3. Tab
to, Default
File Location, & this will tell you where your files are being saved
to.
Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin
Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on
the Openbook users list I thought I would check this out; my document saved just fine, but now I cannot find it. I used to go to Open Book on the desk top, hit enter on Open Book, and arrow down to my Open Book documents. Now Open Book opens, and I do not know where my saved Open Book documents are? Cheers Kevin.
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Hello Richard,
I do not have any idea what is going on with your system but, have you tried naming and saving a file before you start scanning. OB has been bad about crashing on me for years on many many different computers including Win10 Creator 64 bit.
I learned a long time ago to name and save a file before I scanned too many pages. If it crashes before you save, you loose every thing that you scanned. Not so good if you have scanned a lot of pages. And, for me, I have far less crashes if the file has been named. I definitely do not know why.
While this information probably doesn’t help you very much, maybe it will save you a little time.
Good luck with tech support Monday.
James B
From: Ashleigh Piccinino Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 12:35 AM Subject: Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list
Haven’t used it in a while so can’t tell ya, sorry about that! However, yes, I do use ob for some things when I can
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From:
Richard Turner
If there are any OpenBook 9 users running Windows 10 Creator Edition, 64 bit; have you had any issues with saving files after scanning? On my system, I get the nebulous error message that something has stopped Openbook from working and Windows will close the program, etc.
I have corresponded with tech support and I tried their repair steps, didn’t work. I tried their suggestion of uninstalling and reinstalling it into a custom location, still not working. I did not remove shared components because I thought that would mess up my Jaws installation. Any thoughts before I have to call tech support on Monday?
Thanks, Richard
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