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Re: Mouse over on bank site

 

Hi Paul,

There is a good change the correct key stroke would have activate the mouseover and told you where to go. I am not saying this works always, but it usually does. You press Insert+Control+Enter, Jaws will say something like "Change at line 23", you then use "j", the jum command, and type in "23" to jump to line 23 which is where the other links start. I am often surprised how many people don't know about such an important and essential command for web navigation.
Here is an example how this looks/sounds like when I log into my credit card processor's website (I used the speech history to copy this):

* Reports on mouse over
* Terminal on mouse over - I press Insert+Control+Enter here and then hear the below:
change at line 13
Jump To Line dialog
Enter Line Number (1 to 46): edit - here I entered 13 followed by enter and then when I arrowed down I get the following links which a sighted user sees by hovering over the "Terminal" mouseover:
* Link Preauth
* visited Link Capture
* visited Link Purchase
* Link Void
* Link Refund


Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Martz
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 10:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse over on bank site

I ran into a web site a couple years back that had mouse-over controls. They are frustrating.

This control, in particular, opened a menu when the user hovered the mouse. I found I could open the menu with the JAWS cursor, and I somehow managed to get to the menu options but don't remember the details.

Ultimately, I discovered that each of the menu options, when selected, took me to a unique URL. So my final solution was to simply bookmark the target URLs of each menu option. Rather than use the HAWS cursor to hover over the control and navigate to a menu option, I would simply select a bookmark, which turned out to be orders of magnitude more efficient.
It pays to be creative and think out of the box.

Maybe you can do something like that with your bank site?
-Paul


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two questions

Carol Smith
 

Hi. First, I would like to know if there is a way to click on items that are spoken with the touch cursor. Next, my win7 is set for jaws to start after windows is loaded. The voice that comes up is so slow and gravelly that I can hardly tell what it is saying. The only way to fix it is to reload jaws. Is there a setting somewhere that needs to be changed? Thanks.

Carol


Re: Mouse over on bank site

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

I ran into a web site a couple years back that had mouse-over controls. They are frustrating.

This control, in particular, opened a menu when the user hovered the mouse. I found I could open the menu with the JAWS
cursor, and I somehow managed to get to the menu options but don't remember the details.

Ultimately, I discovered that each of the menu options, when selected, took me to a unique URL. So my final solution was
to simply bookmark the target URLs of each menu option. Rather than use the HAWS cursor to hover over the control and
navigate to a menu option, I would simply select a bookmark, which turned out to be orders of magnitude more efficient.
It pays to be creative and think out of the box.

Maybe you can do something like that with your bank site?
-Paul


Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Thanks for the clarification

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Hello Mike:

Windows Defender is installed during the installation of Windows 7.

Unlike Windows 8 and Windows 10, Windows Defender for Windows 7 does not include a virus scan function.

If you choose to install Microsoft Essentials, it disables Windows Defender and takes over the functions of Windows Defender.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@centurylink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?


I tried Malware bytes a while ago, and to me, it didn't seem that
accessible. How accessible and Jaws friendly is it now?

Question #2: Will Windows Defender run with Windows 7?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mcLeod
stinnett
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?



--
from, mack install malware bytes to run in conjunction with defender they
make a good team. you can get malware bytes at http://www.ninite.com, it's a
set it and forget it program.


Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Dave Durber
 

Hello Mike:

Windows Defender is installed during the installation of Windows 7.

Unlike Windows 8 and Windows 10, Windows Defender for Windows 7 does not include a virus scan function.

If you choose to install Microsoft Essentials, it disables Windows Defender and takes over the functions of Windows Defender.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@centurylink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?


I tried Malware bytes a while ago, and to me, it didn't seem that accessible. How accessible and Jaws friendly is it now?

Question #2: Will Windows Defender run with Windows 7?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mcLeod stinnett
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?



--
from, mack install malware bytes to run in conjunction with defender they make a good team. you can get malware bytes at http://www.ninite.com, it's a set it and forget it program.


Re: Web sites issue

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Until they change it next week, lol.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: July 27, 2017 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

Sometimes it might be a struggle to learn something new but once you got it then it can be of great help.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

I don't know, but I am becoming increasingly resolved not to struggle with stuff. It is one thing to learn something new or make a change - but a struggle, why?

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

Me too, I thought firefox/Mozilla sucked. I guess in order to use Firefox/Mozilla you have to do a bit of accessibility set up so it'll work with JAWS?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

Same here. Well, I tried Fire Fox, did not like it.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 10:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

The only browser I’ve ever used is IE ……



Laura





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue



It may be just IE 11.

Have you tried Mozilla FireFox?

I use it exclusively these days. IE ends up doing too many odd things along with with eating CPU resources.

Richard




On Jul 27, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@gmail.com <mailto:laurakr65@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thank’s for responding …… I hope others will chime in with what I might do to solve this issue.



Laura





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Web sites issue



Laura,

BTW: you should only have one anti virus program that stays running. If you have more than that, it’ll cause all kinds of problems.



I don’t know much about Windows Defender, as I run the old Microsoft Security Essentials. But it sounds like you might be virus and malware clear.



I’ll have to pass your question off to others on this list.

Sorry I couldn’t help.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 7:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Web sites issue



I ran a Malware scan a couple of weeks ago …… nothing found at that time. Is Windows defender something I need to run a scan to check for this or does it automatically do this for me? I don’t have any other virus protection software on this system.



Laura





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Web sites issue



Hi Laura, have you ran a scan lately?

Almost sounds like you might of picked up either a virus or some malware?



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 7:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Web sites issue



Hello,



During the past few days, when I enter on a link from a web site for a specific page, sometimes I get a fairly long message saying something about “the security of this site cannot be verified”. When this happens I cannot get it to go away; when I press alt + f4 or try to go back to the previous page Jaws just keeps repeating this message. This morning it happened again and I kept pressing alt + f4 about six or seven times and finally it got me off the internet.



Sometimes this occurs and sometimes not. The web sites I’m speaking of are ones that I’ve used regularly for a long time without any problems …… This does not happen every time and does not happen on all web sites.



One of the web sites is accuweather.com <http://accuweather.com> …… I go to this site, read the three day local forecast, and then click on extended forecast”.



Again, this problem does not occur every time and it does happen on some other web sites. I’m using Jaws 18, Windows 10, and IE 11. Does anybody have any thoughts on why this is happening? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.



Laura


Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Sharon
 

Wasn't Security Essentials for Windows 7 and Windows Defender for Windows
10?
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

You might try that. Best of all, I think it's free.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Ulrich
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 5:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

I think, if I remember correctly, I had my computer shop put Microsoft
Security Essentials on it, because I was more familiar with it. So I'll try
searching on my laptop, to see if I still have Defender on it.

If I don't, can I just go to Microsoft.com and download it?.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Mike,
I have Windows 7, and I believe Windows Defender is built into it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Ulrich
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

I tried Malware bytes a while ago, and to me, it didn't seem that
accessible.
How accessible and Jaws friendly is it now?

Question #2: Will Windows Defender run with Windows 7?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mcLeod
stinnett
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?



--
from, mack install malware bytes to run in conjunction with defender they

make a good team. you can get malware bytes at http://www.ninite.com, it's a

set it and forget it program.







---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com


Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Thanks!

Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!

On Jul 28, 2017, at 8:05 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@comcast.net> wrote:

You might try that. Best of all, I think it's free.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Ulrich
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 5:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

I think, if I remember correctly, I had my computer shop put Microsoft
Security Essentials on it, because I was more familiar with it. So I'll try
searching on my laptop, to see if I still have Defender on it.

If I don't, can I just go to Microsoft.com and download it?.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Mike,
I have Windows 7, and I believe Windows Defender is built into it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Ulrich
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

I tried Malware bytes a while ago, and to me, it didn't seem that
accessible.
How accessible and Jaws friendly is it now?

Question #2: Will Windows Defender run with Windows 7?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mcLeod
stinnett
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?



--
from, mack install malware bytes to run in conjunction with defender they

make a good team. you can get malware bytes at http://www.ninite.com, it's a

set it and forget it program.







---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com












Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

You might try that. Best of all, I think it's free.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Ulrich
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 5:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

I think, if I remember correctly, I had my computer shop put Microsoft
Security Essentials on it, because I was more familiar with it. So I'll try
searching on my laptop, to see if I still have Defender on it.

If I don't, can I just go to Microsoft.com and download it?.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Mike,
I have Windows 7, and I believe Windows Defender is built into it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Ulrich
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

I tried Malware bytes a while ago, and to me, it didn't seem that
accessible.
How accessible and Jaws friendly is it now?

Question #2: Will Windows Defender run with Windows 7?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mcLeod
stinnett
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?



--
from, mack install malware bytes to run in conjunction with defender they

make a good team. you can get malware bytes at http://www.ninite.com, it's a

set it and forget it program.







---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com


Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

I think, if I remember correctly, I had my computer shop put Microsoft
Security Essentials on it, because I was more familiar with it. So I'll try
searching on my laptop, to see if I still have Defender on it.

If I don't, can I just go to Microsoft.com and download it?.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Mike,
I have Windows 7, and I believe Windows Defender is built into it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Ulrich
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

I tried Malware bytes a while ago, and to me, it didn't seem that
accessible.
How accessible and Jaws friendly is it now?

Question #2: Will Windows Defender run with Windows 7?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mcLeod
stinnett
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?



--
from, mack install malware bytes to run in conjunction with defender they

make a good team. you can get malware bytes at http://www.ninite.com, it's a

set it and forget it program.







---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com


Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Jason White
 

I recently asked a similar question elsewhere and Windows Defender was
recommended as an accessible solution that could also be used in conjunction
with MalwareBytes to perform manual scans.

Windows Defender is active by default in Windows 10.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Mike,
I have Windows 7, and I believe Windows Defender is built into it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Ulrich
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

I tried Malware bytes a while ago, and to me, it didn't seem that
accessible.
How accessible and Jaws friendly is it now?

Question #2: Will Windows Defender run with Windows 7?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mcLeod
stinnett
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?



--
from, mack install malware bytes to run in conjunction with defender they

make a good team. you can get malware bytes at http://www.ninite.com, it's a

set it and forget it program.







---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com


Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Mike,
I have Windows 7, and I believe Windows Defender is built into it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

I tried Malware bytes a while ago, and to me, it didn't seem that accessible.
How accessible and Jaws friendly is it now?

Question #2: Will Windows Defender run with Windows 7?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mcLeod
stinnett
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?



--
from, mack install malware bytes to run in conjunction with defender they
make a good team. you can get malware bytes at http://www.ninite.com, it's a
set it and forget it program.







---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com


Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

I tried Malware bytes a while ago, and to me, it didn't seem that accessible. How accessible and Jaws friendly is it now?

Question #2: Will Windows Defender run with Windows 7?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mcLeod stinnett
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?



--
from, mack install malware bytes to run in conjunction with defender they make a good team. you can get malware bytes at http://www.ninite.com, it's a set it and forget it program.


Re: Is there a way to get Favorites from Internet Explorer into Google Chrome?

mcLeod stinnett
 

--
from, mack try the import settings with n v d a it works better with chrome than other readers.


Re: Which Antiviral Programs Now Work Best with JAWS?

mcLeod stinnett
 

--
from, mack install malware bytes to run in conjunction with defender they make a good team. you can get malware bytes at http://www.ninite.com, it's a set it and forget it program.


Re: Web sites issue

 

Chrome is my browser of choice just because it is very fast and except for 2 or 3 quirks the accessibility is great. I've said it many times and now I'll say it just one more since I really think this thread is somewhat exhausted, everybody should have Chrome and/or Firefox installed in addition to IE.
Now use Chrome and/or Firefox exclusively for a while to really see if you run into situations where they don't do what you want and then decide which one should be your default browser and which should be in second and third place. You may find that Chrome and IE is the perfect combination in which case you can get rid of Firefox again, but it is not like it takes up a lot of space so it won't hurt to have all three installed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kelly
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 9:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

I've been using Chrome regularly for the past three months with JAWS. As someone who spent at least 12 years working on IE, it will always hold a special place for me but Chrome and accessibility and screen reader support have come a long way. And I know more than over the last three months of course. It, Chrome, is worth exploring for sureas isFirefox.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

Dave,
I just installed Chrome to check it out and it does seem very useable now on Windows 10 with Jaws 18.
At least, for quick searches, which is all I have done thus far.

HTH,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

Sieghard,

I must have been asleep for a while, because when I last dozed off, Google Chrome was nearly completely inaccessible. Have things improved?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:51
Subject: Re: Web sites issue


As I said, the simple solution is to install Google Chrome, using IE exclusively often is just not enough anymore and will continue to be more and more problematic.
You have to look at this like you look at apps on iOS, most of us use several map/GPS apps like Apple Maps and/or Google Maps along with Blindsquare, Seeing Eye GPS or Nearby Explorer. Most of us use various apps for doing OCR and identifying/recognizing objects, money, barcodes etc.
Using two browsers on the PC is no different, try Chrome and then use it either as your primary or secondary browser along with IE. For basic browsing Chrome is not a steep learning curve, all quick nav keys work just the same as in IE as these are Jaws functions and they are the same in all browsers.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura
Richardson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

I'm not glad you're having the same problem but I'm glad it's not just me.
This just started a few days ago but it doesn't happen every time ......
Frustrating ......

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 10:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

I have the same complaint, and it is of recent onset.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura
Richardson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 7:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Web sites issue

Hello,



During the past few days, when I enter on a link from a web site for a
specific page, sometimes I get a fairly long message saying something about
"the security of this site cannot be verified". When this happens I cannot
get it to go away; when I press alt + f4 or try to go back to the previous
page Jaws just keeps repeating this message. This morning it happened again

and I kept pressing alt + f4 about six or seven times and finally it got me
off the internet.



Sometimes this occurs and sometimes not. The web sites I'm speaking of are
ones that I've used regularly for a long time without any problems .. This
does not happen every time and does not happen on all web sites.



One of the web sites is accuweather.com .. I go to this site, read the three

day local forecast, and then click on extended forecast".



Again, this problem does not occur every time and it does happen on some
other web sites. I'm using Jaws 18, Windows 10, and IE 11. Does anybody
have any thoughts on why this is happening? Any suggestions are greatly
appreciated.



Laura


Re: Web sites issue

Kelly <kelly@...>
 

I've been using Chrome regularly for the past three months with JAWS. As
someone who spent at least 12 years working on IE, it will always hold a
special place for me but Chrome and accessibility and screen reader support
have come a long way. And I know more than over the last three months of
course. It, Chrome, is worth exploring for sureas isFirefox.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

Dave,
I just installed Chrome to check it out and it does seem very useable now on
Windows 10 with Jaws 18.
At least, for quick searches, which is all I have done thus far.

HTH,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

Sieghard,

I must have been asleep for a while, because when I last dozed off, Google
Chrome was nearly completely inaccessible. Have things improved?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:51
Subject: Re: Web sites issue


As I said, the simple solution is to install Google Chrome, using IE
exclusively often is just not enough anymore and will continue to be more
and more problematic.
You have to look at this like you look at apps on iOS, most of us use
several map/GPS apps like Apple Maps and/or Google Maps along with
Blindsquare, Seeing Eye GPS or Nearby Explorer. Most of us use various apps
for doing OCR and identifying/recognizing objects, money, barcodes etc.
Using two browsers on the PC is no different, try Chrome and then use it
either as your primary or secondary browser along with IE. For basic
browsing Chrome is not a steep learning curve, all quick nav keys work just
the same as in IE as these are Jaws functions and they are the same in all
browsers.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura
Richardson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

I'm not glad you're having the same problem but I'm glad it's not just me.
This just started a few days ago but it doesn't happen every time ......
Frustrating ......

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 10:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

I have the same complaint, and it is of recent onset.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura
Richardson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 7:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Web sites issue

Hello,



During the past few days, when I enter on a link from a web site for a
specific page, sometimes I get a fairly long message saying something about
"the security of this site cannot be verified". When this happens I cannot
get it to go away; when I press alt + f4 or try to go back to the previous
page Jaws just keeps repeating this message. This morning it happened again

and I kept pressing alt + f4 about six or seven times and finally it got me
off the internet.



Sometimes this occurs and sometimes not. The web sites I'm speaking of are
ones that I've used regularly for a long time without any problems .. This
does not happen every time and does not happen on all web sites.



One of the web sites is accuweather.com .. I go to this site, read the three

day local forecast, and then click on extended forecast".



Again, this problem does not occur every time and it does happen on some
other web sites. I'm using Jaws 18, Windows 10, and IE 11. Does anybody
have any thoughts on why this is happening? Any suggestions are greatly
appreciated.



Laura


Re: u pux host

 

Laura,

          There is a lot of information out there about unpuxhost, see:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=unpuxhost&t=hu&atb=v33-7__&ia=web

          None of it is particularly clear about its actual purpose but it is something from Microsoft and it's widely agreed it's safe, but not essential.  I stopped reading after finding the same basic information in multiple sources and none that looked any more promising with details.

--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

 
If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker


Re: Web sites issue

Richard Turner
 

Dave,
I just installed Chrome to check it out and it does seem very useable now on Windows 10 with Jaws 18.
At least, for quick searches, which is all I have done thus far.

HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

Sieghard,

I must have been asleep for a while, because when I last dozed off, Google
Chrome was nearly completely inaccessible. Have things improved?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:51
Subject: Re: Web sites issue


As I said, the simple solution is to install Google Chrome, using IE
exclusively often is just not enough anymore and will continue to be more
and more problematic.
You have to look at this like you look at apps on iOS, most of us use
several map/GPS apps like Apple Maps and/or Google Maps along with
Blindsquare, Seeing Eye GPS or Nearby Explorer. Most of us use various apps
for doing OCR and identifying/recognizing objects, money, barcodes etc.
Using two browsers on the PC is no different, try Chrome and then use it
either as your primary or secondary browser along with IE. For basic
browsing Chrome is not a steep learning curve, all quick nav keys work just
the same as in IE as these are Jaws functions and they are the same in all
browsers.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura
Richardson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

I'm not glad you're having the same problem but I'm glad it's not just me.
This just started a few days ago but it doesn't happen every time ......
Frustrating ......

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 10:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web sites issue

I have the same complaint, and it is of recent onset.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura
Richardson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 7:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Web sites issue

Hello,



During the past few days, when I enter on a link from a web site for a
specific page, sometimes I get a fairly long message saying something about
"the security of this site cannot be verified". When this happens I cannot
get it to go away; when I press alt + f4 or try to go back to the previous
page Jaws just keeps repeating this message. This morning it happened again
and I kept pressing alt + f4 about six or seven times and finally it got me
off the internet.



Sometimes this occurs and sometimes not. The web sites I'm speaking of are
ones that I've used regularly for a long time without any problems .. This
does not happen every time and does not happen on all web sites.



One of the web sites is accuweather.com .. I go to this site, read the three
day local forecast, and then click on extended forecast".



Again, this problem does not occur every time and it does happen on some
other web sites. I'm using Jaws 18, Windows 10, and IE 11. Does anybody
have any thoughts on why this is happening? Any suggestions are greatly
appreciated.



Laura