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Re: JAWS packaging

Joseph Norton
 

That’s a good question.

 

I do know a blind fellow learned braille in his late 30’s or 40’s, later taught himself grade II from a brochure on learning grade II that was thrown in the trash.  He never got real fast, but, could follow along in most anything he wanted to read.

 

Everyone is different.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

 

And braille wouldn't help me at all.

 

I wonder what percent of their user base is like that. I was told that

at the age I went blind - finally had to go to a screen reader rather

than magnifier in my late 20s - that it was unlikely that I would ever

become proficient enough with braille for more than short labels.

 

On 7/25/17, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@...> wrote:

> If I had never used a computer before and had no sighted assistance, I’m not

> sure if I’d know what to do with the package I received.

> Seems like I remember a note in Braille on an older cd cover saying to run

> “d:setup.exe”, but, can’t remember for sure.

> I checked the DVD and found nothing but the Basic Training materials.

> Admittedly, they’re great, but, there’s also some stuff on the getting

> started recording only downloadable from the training downloads page.  A new

> user wouldn’t know how to get to that at all.

> Most folks, though, would have some help the first time, so, I guess they

> figured it would be enough.

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Carolyn Arnold

> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:27 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

> There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea how

> to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

> Best from,

> Carolyn

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard

> Turner

> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

> Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special

> instructions are no longer necessary?

> AT least they still include some braille information.

> Richard

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph

> Norton

> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: JAWS packaging

> Hi listers:

> I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised

> by the JAWS package.

> They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which

> is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette

> tone-indexing marks).  In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the

> Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA,

> a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a

> Braille quick reference booklet.  I did not find any instructions on

> installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read.

> Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.

> I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it

> and doesn’t need any help.  Or, are they falling down on the job?

> Any thoughts.

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

> 10

 

 

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Re: Question about J 18.0

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Thanks guys! I'll download and install it right now!

Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!

On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:13 PM, Mike Rogers <harpman9@...> wrote:

I'm using Windows 7 with the latest Jaws update and it works just fine.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:32:23 -0400
"Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@...> wrote:

Howdy all,

I recently purchased a copy of J 18.0 at the NFB National Convention in
Orlando Florida.



I'm currently running Windows 7, IE 11.0 with J 16.0.

My question, do you think J 18.0 will be OK with running with W 7?



I know I should probably update up to Windows 10, but I guess you could say
I'm a bit scared to. I've heard a few scary stories about people trying to
deal with J 18.0 with W 10?



So perhaps I should just download my new version of J 18.0, but don't
install it yet? Or do you think I can install it on my W 7?



Please let me know your thoughts.





Thanks much!......Mike



Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member



Home: 239-540-7431

Cell: 239-565-5845

Email: mulrich@...





Re: Question about J 18.0

Mike Rogers
 

I'm using Windows 7 with the latest Jaws update and it works just fine.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:32:23 -0400
"Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@...> wrote:

Howdy all,

I recently purchased a copy of J 18.0 at the NFB National Convention in
Orlando Florida.



I'm currently running Windows 7, IE 11.0 with J 16.0.

My question, do you think J 18.0 will be OK with running with W 7?



I know I should probably update up to Windows 10, but I guess you could say
I'm a bit scared to. I've heard a few scary stories about people trying to
deal with J 18.0 with W 10?



So perhaps I should just download my new version of J 18.0, but don't
install it yet? Or do you think I can install it on my W 7?



Please let me know your thoughts.





Thanks much!......Mike



Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member



Home: 239-540-7431

Cell: 239-565-5845

Email: mulrich@...



Re: JAWS packaging

Soronel Haetir
 

And braille wouldn't help me at all.

I wonder what percent of their user base is like that. I was told that
at the age I went blind - finally had to go to a screen reader rather
than magnifier in my late 20s - that it was unlikely that I would ever
become proficient enough with braille for more than short labels.

On 7/25/17, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@...> wrote:
If I had never used a computer before and had no sighted assistance, I’m not
sure if I’d know what to do with the package I received.

Seems like I remember a note in Braille on an older cd cover saying to run
“d:setup.exe”, but, can’t remember for sure.

I checked the DVD and found nothing but the Basic Training materials.
Admittedly, they’re great, but, there’s also some stuff on the getting
started recording only downloadable from the training downloads page. A new
user wouldn’t know how to get to that at all.

Most folks, though, would have some help the first time, so, I guess they
figured it would be enough.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea how
to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special
instructions are no longer necessary?



AT least they still include some braille information.



Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging



Hi listers:



I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised
by the JAWS package.



They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which
is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette
tone-indexing marks). In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the
Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA,
a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a
Braille quick reference booklet. I did not find any instructions on
installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read.
Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.



I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it
and doesn’t need any help. Or, are they falling down on the job?



Any thoughts.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10









--
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soronel.haetir@...


Re: JAWS packaging

Joseph Norton
 

Hi:

 

On Windows 8 and later, you get a chime sound, with a visual alert which alerts you to the insertion of a CD or DVD.  I think you have to click on that to get an option to autorun, but, the CD or DVD doesn’t automatically start.  If you’re using a keyboard, you probably will need to know what to type, not just a matter of pressing Enter.  In addition, there’s the User Account Control dialog that pops up.  Usually, you press alt-y to say yes, but, again, you have to know this.

 

Another thing in Windows 8 and later.  If you set them up using a Microsoft account (which MS recommends), after the first reboot (after the JAWS install is finished), you will need to know how to log back into the system before JAWS will speak.  JAWS does not start at the logon screen until after you explicitly tell it to later on.

 

Right now, best thing is to have a sighted person there for the first little while until you get everything speaking.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

 

I certainly wouldn't expect cassette tapes any more these days and apart from that installing Jaws is so easy that I really don't see the need for a tutorial. Stick the dVD in the drive and it will start up, you click next a few times and it's done. OK, maybe I am over-simplifying this a bit since you may have to select "Install Jaws" or whatever, the fact is I haven't installed Jaws from DVD in many many years and neither have I used the authorization CD. But certainly it can't be much more difficult than running the downloaded file, if I install on a new computer I always just select to authorize manually and then copy and paste the key into the edit field.

I guess if somebody doesn't know how to get started at all that tech support would be more than happy to walk them through the process over the phone. I am always surprised when a new version comes out that I still get the DVD in the mail.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 8:31 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

 

I should also add that my jaws package (either 7 or 8) is a tri-fold.

It has the main installation media, a disc with the RealSpeak 32-bit SAPI voices and the authorization CD (that latter is the only reason I kept the install sleeve all this time). It does not have a separate disc with instructions.

 

On 7/25/17, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:

> It wouldn't surprise me if the main disc has that information now, I

> am pretty sure it is a DVD now so space is no longer any sort of

> issue.

> On 7/25/17, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:

>> There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest

>> idea how to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

>> 

>> Best from,

>> 

>> Carolyn

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>> Richard Turner

>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM

>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>> Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

>> 

>> Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special

>> instructions are no longer necessary?

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> AT least they still include some braille information.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Richard

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>> Joseph Norton

>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM

>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>> Subject: JAWS packaging

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Hi listers:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little

>> surprised by the JAWS package.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS

>> (which is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with

>> cassette tone-indexing marks).  In the package, I found a bifold

>> sleve containing the Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple

>> Braille sheets about the SMA, a large print document (which I assume

>> is the quick reference), and a Braille quick reference booklet.  I

>> did not find any instructions on installing JAWS, unless it was in

>> the large print document I couldn’t read.

>> Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to

>> install it and doesn’t need any help.  Or, are they falling down on the job?

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Any thoughts.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for

>> Windows

>> 10

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>>

>> 

>> 

> --

> Soronel Haetir

> soronel.haetir@...

 

 

--

Soronel Haetir

soronel.haetir@...

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Question about J 18.0

Joseph Norton
 

It should work fine with Windows 7. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about J 18.0

 

Howdy all,

I recently purchased a copy of J 18.0 at the NFB National Convention in Orlando Florida.

 

I’m currently running Windows 7, IE 11.0 with J 16.0.

My question, do you think J 18.0 will be OK with running with W 7?

 

I know I should probably update up to Windows 10, but I guess you could say I’m a bit scared to. I’ve heard a few scary stories about people trying to deal with J 18.0 with W 10?

 

So perhaps I should just download my new version of J 18.0, but don’t install it yet? Or do you think I can install it on my W 7?

 

Please let me know your thoughts.

 

 

Thanks much!......Mike

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

 

Home: 239-540-7431

Cell: 239-565-5845

Email: mulrich@...

 

 


Re: JAWS packaging

Joseph Norton
 

If I had never used a computer before and had no sighted assistance, I’m not sure if I’d know what to do with the package I received.

 

Seems like I remember a note in Braille on an older cd cover saying to run “d:setup.exe”, but, can’t remember for sure.

 

I checked the DVD and found nothing but the Basic Training materials.  Admittedly, they’re great, but, there’s also some stuff on the getting started recording only downloadable from the training downloads page.  A new user wouldn’t know how to get to that at all.

 

Most folks, though, would have some help the first time, so, I guess they figured it would be enough.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

 

There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea how to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

 

Best from,

 

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

 

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special instructions are no longer necessary?

 

 

AT least they still include some braille information.

 

 

Richard

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: JAWS packaging

 

 

Hi listers:

 

 

I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised by the JAWS package.

 

 

They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette tone-indexing marks).  In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA, a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a Braille quick reference booklet.  I did not find any instructions on installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read.  Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.

 

 

I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it and doesn’t need any help.  Or, are they falling down on the job?

 

 

Any thoughts.

 

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Question about J 18.0

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Howdy all,

I recently purchased a copy of J 18.0 at the NFB National Convention in Orlando Florida.

 

I’m currently running Windows 7, IE 11.0 with J 16.0.

My question, do you think J 18.0 will be OK with running with W 7?

 

I know I should probably update up to Windows 10, but I guess you could say I’m a bit scared to. I’ve heard a few scary stories about people trying to deal with J 18.0 with W 10?

 

So perhaps I should just download my new version of J 18.0, but don’t install it yet? Or do you think I can install it on my W 7?

 

Please let me know your thoughts.

 

 

Thanks much!......Mike

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

 

Home: 239-540-7431

Cell: 239-565-5845

Email: mulrich@...

 


Re: JAWS packaging

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I certainly wouldn't expect cassette tapes any more these days and apart from that installing Jaws is so easy that I really don't see the need for a tutorial. Stick the dVD in the drive and it will start up, you click next a few times and it's done. OK, maybe I am over-simplifying this a bit since you may have to select "Install Jaws" or whatever, the fact is I haven't installed Jaws from DVD in many many years and neither have I used the authorization CD. But certainly it can't be much more difficult than running the downloaded file, if I install on a new computer I always just select to authorize manually and then copy and paste the key into the edit field.
I guess if somebody doesn't know how to get started at all that tech support would be more than happy to walk them through the process over the phone. I am always surprised when a new version comes out that I still get the DVD in the mail.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

I should also add that my jaws package (either 7 or 8) is a tri-fold.
It has the main installation media, a disc with the RealSpeak 32-bit SAPI voices and the authorization CD (that latter is the only reason I kept the install sleeve all this time). It does not have a separate disc with instructions.

On 7/25/17, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if the main disc has that information now, I
am pretty sure it is a DVD now so space is no longer any sort of
issue.

On 7/25/17, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest
idea how to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special
instructions are no longer necessary?



AT least they still include some braille information.



Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Joseph Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging



Hi listers:



I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little
surprised by the JAWS package.



They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS
(which is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with
cassette tone-indexing marks). In the package, I found a bifold
sleve containing the Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple
Braille sheets about the SMA, a large print document (which I assume
is the quick reference), and a Braille quick reference booklet. I
did not find any instructions on installing JAWS, unless it was in
the large print document I couldn’t read.
Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.



I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to
install it and doesn’t need any help. Or, are they falling down on the job?



Any thoughts.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows
10









--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Re: JAWS packaging

Soronel Haetir
 

I should also add that my jaws package (either 7 or 8) is a tri-fold.
It has the main installation media, a disc with the RealSpeak 32-bit
SAPI voices and the authorization CD (that latter is the only reason I
kept the install sleeve all this time). It does not have a separate
disc with instructions.

On 7/25/17, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if the main disc has that information now, I
am pretty sure it is a DVD now so space is no longer any sort of
issue.

On 7/25/17, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea
how
to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special
instructions are no longer necessary?



AT least they still include some braille information.



Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging



Hi listers:



I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little
surprised
by the JAWS package.



They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS
(which
is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette
tone-indexing marks). In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing
the
Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the
SMA,
a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a
Braille quick reference booklet. I did not find any instructions on
installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t
read.
Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.



I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it
and doesn’t need any help. Or, are they falling down on the job?



Any thoughts.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows
10









--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...
--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Re: JAWS packaging

Soronel Haetir
 

It wouldn't surprise me if the main disc has that information now, I
am pretty sure it is a DVD now so space is no longer any sort of
issue.

On 7/25/17, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea how
to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special
instructions are no longer necessary?



AT least they still include some braille information.



Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging



Hi listers:



I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised
by the JAWS package.



They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which
is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette
tone-indexing marks). In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the
Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA,
a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a
Braille quick reference booklet. I did not find any instructions on
installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read.
Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.



I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it
and doesn’t need any help. Or, are they falling down on the job?



Any thoughts.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10








--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Re: JAWS packaging

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea how to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special instructions are no longer necessary?



AT least they still include some braille information.



Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging



Hi listers:



I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised by the JAWS package.



They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette tone-indexing marks). In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA, a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a Braille quick reference booklet. I did not find any instructions on installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read. Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.



I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it and doesn’t need any help. Or, are they falling down on the job?



Any thoughts.



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Re: JAWS packaging

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special instructions are no longer necessary?

 

AT least they still include some braille information.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging

 

Hi listers:

 

I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised by the JAWS package.

 

They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette tone-indexing marks).  In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA, a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a Braille quick reference booklet.  I did not find any instructions on installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read.  Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.

 

I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it and doesn’t need any help.  Or, are they falling down on the job?

 

Any thoughts.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


JAWS packaging

Joseph Norton
 

Hi listers:

 

I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised by the JAWS package.

 

They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette tone-indexing marks).  In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA, a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a Braille quick reference booklet.  I did not find any instructions on installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read.  Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.

 

I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it and doesn’t need any help.  Or, are they falling down on the job?

 

Any thoughts.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Removing footnotes from documents

turab chimthanawala
 

Hi all
Would like to know to get rid of the footnotes from scanned books. As
they are a big hurdle while reading the books after converting into
word documents.
Thanks in anticipation
Best
Turab


Braille Not Displaying using JFW18 and Excel in office 365

Kerry Fielding <littlemisslovely1973@...>
 

Hi folks.


Just got round to using Excel 2016 on my new pc with the latest update of JAWS and there appears to be no Braille whatsoever on my Braille display despite the speech reporting cell contents. I have seen some stuff on here about problems with Excel but didn't bother to read it at the time so if this has already been covered and answered I apologise. If you could point me to the thread save re-posting the stuff I'll gladly look there.


Many Thanks.

Kerry Fielding


Re: Where is the wish list and the complaint box? was: Overlay window 0?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Has anybody confirmed that this is a Jaws issue and not something from Windows 10? I run Jaws 18 on several Windows 7 Desktops at work and don’t recall ever seeing this except on my Windows 10 laptop recently. It would be good to know in the first place what exactly it is.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 1:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where is the wish list and the complaint box? was: Overlay window 0?

 

Try

support@...

I just sent an email about this overlay window myself and got a canned received message with more to come, hopefully.

 

lucky1inct@...
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 7/24/2017 3:55 PM, Shannon wrote:

How would one go about complaining viggerously or other wise to VFO? And, where is the suggestion/wish list?

Thanks

Shannon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Overlay window 0?

 

I had not seen it till JAWS 18.  I believe you should complain vigorously to VFO if it interferes in any way.  It doesn't yet seem to bother me.

 

lucky1inct@...
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 7/24/2017 2:19 PM, Jacob wrote:

Here it always comes up when I open a webbrowser. As long as the window is open I can't see the menus at my Braille display. I have seen it long time ago in an older JAWS version but now it return in the previous version of JAWS 18.

OZ0TE Jacob

On 2017-07-24 at 18:43 Shannon wrote:

What is this overlay window 0?

I have heard it before and it seams to come and go.

What is it and how do you get away from it? It seams to appear when I am having focus problems.

Thanks

Shannon

 

 

 


Re: jaws and abbyy finereader

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

I have not used that particular app, but insert+up-arrow will read the current line.
I've used that a lot with edit boxes that didn't read another way and it worked.
HTH,
Richard

On Jul 24, 2017, at 6:39 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:

Hi. I was trying to use Jaws to work with Abbyy Finereader version
12, and I could not get it to read the edit box where the text is.
Anyone had any luck doing that?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...



jaws and abbyy finereader

John Covici
 

Hi. I was trying to use Jaws to work with Abbyy Finereader version
12, and I could not get it to read the edit box where the text is.
Anyone had any luck doing that?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...


Re: So Long for now

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Nice having you on the list.

All the best to you in your future.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 1:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: So Long for now

 

I know multiple recipients are frowned upon, but please indulge this one.  I’m leaving Medicaid this week, and want to tie up all loose ends, including these lists.  You guys have been helpful, and I’ve enjoyed the discussions—signing off and unsubscribing.

 

Ted

 

Ted Lisle, PH .D. medicaid Spec 3, (502)564-2574

 

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