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Re: Taking a Screenshot of a Print Page using JAWS

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

If you have Dropbox or OneDrive it is easiest to just enable Screenshots in either one of these programs. If you do and press Printscreen a screenshot is saved to a folder called Screenshots, this folder is either in your Dropbox or OneDrive folder depending on what you use. I find this by far the easiest way to get screenshots, all you have to do is press one key, then go to that folder and you can copy the file and paste it as an attachment to an email or attach it if you are filling out a web-based service request.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 6:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Taking a Screenshot of a Print Page using JAWS

 

 

Just press the windowsKey, then type paint, and then press

enter

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 7:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Taking a Screenshot of a Print Page using JAWS

 

There must be something different in Windows 10.  On the Start menu I cannot find anything that says All Programs.  And when I open Programs there are no Accessories.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 8:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Taking a Screenshot of a Print Page using JAWS

 

Hi Rick,

 

Open All Programs from the start menu, open accessories, & arrow down to, Paint.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Miller

Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 8:07 PM

Subject: Re: Taking a Screenshot of a Print Page using JAWS

 

How do you go into paint program?  That’s the part of it I don’t understand.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Taking a Screenshot of a Print Page using JAWS

 

When you hit the print screen button on your computer it automatically copies it to the clipboard and what you do is you go into paint program, then you hit control V to paste it in there and save it as a document and send that back to the technician, hope this helps. John Martin MARTYN

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:40 PM Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Rick,

 

The Paste Special keystroke for Word is, Control, Alt, + V.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Miller

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 9:11 PM

Subject: Re: Taking a Screenshot of a Print Page using JAWS

 

What do you mean by paste special?  Isn’t the keystroke just the Control+V keystroke?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Taking a Screenshot of a Print Page using JAWS

 

If you hit print screen then open word then paste special it will ask you if you want to paste as a device independant bitmap. This tells you it is there. You wont have any other feedback since it is an image.
On 7/14/2017 8:26 PM, Rick Miller wrote:

Dear Listers:

 

I am having trouble with a printed page, and a technician is asking me to send s screenshot to him.  He told me to print the page using the Print Screen page and then paste it into a document.  I tried that, but it didn’t work.  Have any of you ever taken a screenshot using JAWS?  If so, how did you go about it?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

 


Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Oh my, yes. In the 80's, we were astounded at what they came
up with. I guess that was the tech renaissance.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 4:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

The VoTalker ran files written in Advance Basic, without
which it would probably have been mute. We were so easily
impressed back then. The software included a little looping
demo, allowing VoTalker to do its stuff--sing bicycle Built
for Two, run some simple sound effects, change speed.
Remember this was 1986.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Yes, TTS is text to speech, very common terminology relative
to phones, tablets and devices with screen reading
capabilities, so TTS would include JAWS, I'm sure, since
that is its reason for living.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

I'm reasonably sure TTS stands for Text-to-Speech. My first
board had its own TTS module that loaded ahead of the
screen reader, or talk program, as such software was then
known.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Nancy B. Gibson
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


Hi Michael,

Thanks for the link to that document. I actually already
have that. I think they wrote it for us.

I'm beginning to wonder if the one who is making this
hardest on me is me. My first dumb question is that the
document talks about the Windows TTS and Narrator. Are they
two different things or one in the same?

As it is now, the TTS is reading what happens in the
Revation Communicator program. JAWS is responsible for
everything else -- Resource House in internet explorer, the
time clock system in Firefox and Outlook 2016. JAWS doesn't
function well within the communicator so tabbing just speaks
tab by JAWS and arrow keys are silent. Several of the
keyboard commands Revation implemented don't actually work
as supposed to.

I know Narrator has it's own set of keyboard commands so
should those be in play anywhere or not relevant because
Narrator and TTS are different?

It seems to me that there are so many children on the
playground -- some of who are not playing nice -- but I
don't know which one)s) they are.

What would I have to do to control what JAWS reads and when?


Overwhelmed and Lost
Nancy




----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Mote <miketmote73@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:40 am
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



Hi Nancy! This is very interesting to me. Based on what
you're
saying here, whoever is setting up your AT is making this
tougher on
you than it really should be. At least, I think that's
the case. I
say that because it seems to me that if Narrator can read
the incoming
messages, JAWS should be able to read them as well. To
say that you
cannot run both JAWS and Narrator together is not
accurate. You can
do that, but I wouldn't recommend it. You can switch JAWS
to your
headset, and allow Narrator to run on the computer's sound
card, if you need to do that.
My suggestion would be to figure out a way to make JAWS
read things,
when you want it read, and not when you're in the middle
of a call,
because that can be super distracting. It would be better
for you to
control when messages are read.
I am sending a link below with some information that I
found. I'm
looking for a list of shortcut keys that may help you as
well, but
haven't found that document. I also did a search on my
phone for a
Revation Communicator App, and I found one. I don't know
if this
would be easier to interact with or not.
https://wiki.revation.com/display/KB/Using+Communicator+with
+JAWS


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Nancy B.
Gibson
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This is a call center also and at first I could listen to
JAWS with
one ear and the caller with the other ear. Then we went
with In
Contact phone system and I got both JAWS and the caller in
the same
ear. A little tricky but I learned real fast to put
people on hold so I could function with JAWS.
Now it's this new Revation Communicator system and I think
they
believe that as long as what everyone else sees on the
screen is read
out to me that I can magically take it all in and process
it
accordingly -- and stay sane in the process. Oh yeah, the
other part
of this is that this is the first time this company
(whoever it is
that makes this Revation communicator system) has
endeavored to make
their system work with a screen reader. So lots of
assumptions as to how wonderful it will all be. We shall
see.

Nancy

----- Original Message -----
From: David Moore <jesusloves1966@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center,
and I had to
listen
to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second
ear, and my
boss yelling at me with my third ear LOL!
Wow, go figure LOL!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can
follow too
audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the
potential
conflicts that running 2 screen readers simultaneously
may cause.
Who is in charge of your AT needs?
On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
The system is called Revation Communicator. I think
it's proprietary.

From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the
database and follow
my
lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer.
Narrator is
following the phone/chat system in real time and advising
me of what's
going on. Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2
conversations/audio sources simultaneously -- like
multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.

Thanks for the input.

Nancy


Original Message -----
From: Randy Barnett <randy@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There
are so many
variables with a system like that.

What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?
Does it speak or does Jaws?
If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech
history will have
the message. insert + spacebar then h.
Generally you dont want two screen readers running at
the same time.
On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
Hi List,

We're starting to use a phone system at work that
includes chat
capability. I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so
struggling a little
to keep up.

Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen
to JAWS and
the TTS
at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat
message comes in
and is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the
message reread so
I can hear what I missed the first time?

Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and
Narrator if
they have
to both run at the same time?

Hope that makes sense.

Nancy














Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Myfax is a subscription.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hank & Patty
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 7:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

Great, thanks for getting back to me so quickly with this web link info on where I can get this program MyFax. Now, you say you sign up online, is it a one time price for this program MyFax & if so, what is the one time cost of this program MyFax? or do you pay a monthly subscription to be able to use this program MyFax & if so do you maybe know what is the monthly subscription price? Thanks very much in advance for any help you can maybe give me with this.





All the best,

Hank


-----Original Message-----
From: HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

Hi Guys,

http://www.myfax.com/

http://www.metrofax.com/

these are the two I use. You sign up on line.
They are pretty much straitght forward in setting up and using.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hank & Patty
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

Where can a person get this email to fax client program MyFax? Can you download it off the net? or do you pick it up at Walmart or Staples? Lastly, does this program MyFax have a free trial period to try it out? and do I need to download particular jaws scripts to make it posible for Jaws 18 to work very well and easily with this program MyFax? Any help I can maybe get with this would be so very much appreciated. Much thanks in advance for any help anyone can maybe give me with this.





All the best,
Jaws 18, Windows 7 user,

Hank


-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:14 PM
To: main@... roups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

MyFax does not, in fact, offer a free option. Strictly pay to play.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: July-19-17 2:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

I have the paid Myfax service (not sure if they offer anything for free), but with it I never even go to a website, it's all done by email. If I want to send a fax I simply send an email to the FaxNumber@... and attach any files I want, they can be text files, Word or Excel files, PDF files, pictures etc. You can put a name or recipient into the Subject field and then just send the email. Anything you write into the email body field is sent as a separate page.
Incoming faxes are received by email as well and the fax is a PDF attachment as James already pointed out.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

I use MyFax, personally, and find it quite useable. The website's very accessible. Of course, you'll need some kind of OCR ability if you intend to receive faxes, as like most companies they send them to you as PDF images, but other than that it's perfect.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Martz
Sent: July-19-17 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Fax by email services?

Hi all - I'm in need of a fax-by-email service and am wondering which are compatible with JAWS.

Now, you might think, as I did, that the interface to the service would be through email, so it would be as accessible (or not accessible ha ha) as MS Outlook or whatever email client one uses. But, I started looking into eFax just as one example, and it talked about their "friendly and easy to use web interface", which immediately made me worry that the web interface might not be accessible, because, as we all know, "friendly web interfaces" are all too often NOT accessible at all.

Okay, I'll stop being bitter now and summarize my question:

Which fax-by-email services are people using, and has JAWS presented any problem or are they pretty easy to use?

Thanks.
-Paul


Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

The VoTalker ran files written in Advance Basic, without which it would probably have been mute. We were so easily impressed back then. The software included a little looping demo, allowing VoTalker to do its stuff--sing bicycle Built for Two, run some simple sound effects, change speed. Remember this was 1986.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Yes, TTS is text to speech, very common terminology relative
to phones, tablets and devices with screen reading
capabilities, so TTS would include JAWS, I'm sure, since
that is its reason for living.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

I'm reasonably sure TTS stands for Text-to-Speech. My first
board had its own TTS module that loaded ahead of the
screen reader, or talk program, as such software was then
known.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Nancy B. Gibson
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


Hi Michael,

Thanks for the link to that document. I actually already
have that. I think they wrote it for us.

I'm beginning to wonder if the one who is making this
hardest on me is me. My first dumb question is that the
document talks about the Windows TTS and Narrator. Are they
two different things or one in the same?

As it is now, the TTS is reading what happens in the
Revation Communicator program. JAWS is responsible for
everything else -- Resource House in internet explorer, the
time clock system in Firefox and Outlook 2016. JAWS doesn't
function well within the communicator so tabbing just speaks
tab by JAWS and arrow keys are silent. Several of the
keyboard commands Revation implemented don't actually work
as supposed to.

I know Narrator has it's own set of keyboard commands so
should those be in play anywhere or not relevant because
Narrator and TTS are different?

It seems to me that there are so many children on the
playground -- some of who are not playing nice -- but I
don't know which one)s) they are.

What would I have to do to control what JAWS reads and when?


Overwhelmed and Lost
Nancy




----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Mote <miketmote73@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:40 am
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



Hi Nancy! This is very interesting to me. Based on what
you're
saying here, whoever is setting up your AT is making this
tougher on
you than it really should be. At least, I think that's
the case. I
say that because it seems to me that if Narrator can read
the incoming
messages, JAWS should be able to read them as well. To
say that you
cannot run both JAWS and Narrator together is not
accurate. You can
do that, but I wouldn't recommend it. You can switch JAWS
to your
headset, and allow Narrator to run on the computer's sound
card, if you need to do that.
My suggestion would be to figure out a way to make JAWS
read things,
when you want it read, and not when you're in the middle
of a call,
because that can be super distracting. It would be better
for you to
control when messages are read.
I am sending a link below with some information that I
found. I'm
looking for a list of shortcut keys that may help you as
well, but
haven't found that document. I also did a search on my
phone for a
Revation Communicator App, and I found one. I don't know
if this
would be easier to interact with or not.
https://wiki.revation.com/display/KB/Using+Communicator+with
+JAWS


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Nancy B.
Gibson
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This is a call center also and at first I could listen to
JAWS with
one ear and the caller with the other ear. Then we went
with In
Contact phone system and I got both JAWS and the caller in
the same
ear. A little tricky but I learned real fast to put
people on hold so I could function with JAWS.
Now it's this new Revation Communicator system and I think
they
believe that as long as what everyone else sees on the
screen is read
out to me that I can magically take it all in and process
it
accordingly -- and stay sane in the process. Oh yeah, the
other part
of this is that this is the first time this company
(whoever it is
that makes this Revation communicator system) has
endeavored to make
their system work with a screen reader. So lots of
assumptions as to how wonderful it will all be. We shall
see.

Nancy

----- Original Message -----
From: David Moore <jesusloves1966@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center,
and I had to
listen
to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second
ear, and my
boss yelling at me with my third ear LOL!
Wow, go figure LOL!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can
follow too
audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the
potential
conflicts that running 2 screen readers simultaneously
may cause.
Who is in charge of your AT needs?
On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
The system is called Revation Communicator. I think
it's proprietary.

From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the
database and follow
my
lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer.
Narrator is
following the phone/chat system in real time and advising
me of what's
going on. Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2
conversations/audio sources simultaneously -- like
multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.

Thanks for the input.

Nancy


Original Message -----
From: Randy Barnett <randy@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There
are so many
variables with a system like that.

What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?
Does it speak or does Jaws?
If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech
history will have
the message. insert + spacebar then h.
Generally you dont want two screen readers running at
the same time.
On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
Hi List,

We're starting to use a phone system at work that
includes chat
capability. I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so
struggling a little
to keep up.

Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen
to JAWS and
the TTS
at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat
message comes in
and is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the
message reread so
I can hear what I missed the first time?

Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and
Narrator if
they have
to both run at the same time?

Hope that makes sense.

Nancy














Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Yes, TTS is text to speech, very common terminology relative
to phones, tablets and devices with screen reading
capabilities, so TTS would include JAWS, I'm sure, since
that is its reason for living.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

I'm reasonably sure TTS stands for Text-to-Speech. My first
board had its own TTS module that loaded ahead of the
screen reader, or talk program, as such software was then
known.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Nancy B. Gibson
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


Hi Michael,

Thanks for the link to that document. I actually already
have that. I think they wrote it for us.

I'm beginning to wonder if the one who is making this
hardest on me is me. My first dumb question is that the
document talks about the Windows TTS and Narrator. Are they
two different things or one in the same?

As it is now, the TTS is reading what happens in the
Revation Communicator program. JAWS is responsible for
everything else -- Resource House in internet explorer, the
time clock system in Firefox and Outlook 2016. JAWS doesn't
function well within the communicator so tabbing just speaks
tab by JAWS and arrow keys are silent. Several of the
keyboard commands Revation implemented don't actually work
as supposed to.

I know Narrator has it's own set of keyboard commands so
should those be in play anywhere or not relevant because
Narrator and TTS are different?

It seems to me that there are so many children on the
playground -- some of who are not playing nice -- but I
don't know which one)s) they are.

What would I have to do to control what JAWS reads and when?


Overwhelmed and Lost
Nancy




----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Mote <miketmote73@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:40 am
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



Hi Nancy! This is very interesting to me. Based on what
you're
saying here, whoever is setting up your AT is making this
tougher on
you than it really should be. At least, I think that's
the case. I
say that because it seems to me that if Narrator can read
the incoming
messages, JAWS should be able to read them as well. To
say that you
cannot run both JAWS and Narrator together is not
accurate. You can
do that, but I wouldn't recommend it. You can switch JAWS
to your
headset, and allow Narrator to run on the computer's sound
card, if you need to do that.
My suggestion would be to figure out a way to make JAWS
read things,
when you want it read, and not when you're in the middle
of a call,
because that can be super distracting. It would be better
for you to
control when messages are read.
I am sending a link below with some information that I
found. I'm
looking for a list of shortcut keys that may help you as
well, but
haven't found that document. I also did a search on my
phone for a
Revation Communicator App, and I found one. I don't know
if this
would be easier to interact with or not.
https://wiki.revation.com/display/KB/Using+Communicator+with
+JAWS


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Nancy B.
Gibson
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This is a call center also and at first I could listen to
JAWS with
one ear and the caller with the other ear. Then we went
with In
Contact phone system and I got both JAWS and the caller in
the same
ear. A little tricky but I learned real fast to put
people on hold so I could function with JAWS.
Now it's this new Revation Communicator system and I think
they
believe that as long as what everyone else sees on the
screen is read
out to me that I can magically take it all in and process
it
accordingly -- and stay sane in the process. Oh yeah, the
other part
of this is that this is the first time this company
(whoever it is
that makes this Revation communicator system) has
endeavored to make
their system work with a screen reader. So lots of
assumptions as to how wonderful it will all be. We shall
see.

Nancy

----- Original Message -----
From: David Moore <jesusloves1966@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center,
and I had to
listen
to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second
ear, and my
boss yelling at me with my third ear LOL!
Wow, go figure LOL!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can
follow too
audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the
potential
conflicts that running 2 screen readers simultaneously
may cause.
Who is in charge of your AT needs?
On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
The system is called Revation Communicator. I think
it's proprietary.

From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the
database and follow
my
lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer.
Narrator is
following the phone/chat system in real time and advising
me of what's
going on. Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2
conversations/audio sources simultaneously -- like
multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.

Thanks for the input.

Nancy


Original Message -----
From: Randy Barnett <randy@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There
are so many
variables with a system like that.

What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?
Does it speak or does Jaws?
If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech
history will have
the message. insert + spacebar then h.
Generally you dont want two screen readers running at
the same time.
On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
Hi List,

We're starting to use a phone system at work that
includes chat
capability. I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so
struggling a little
to keep up.

Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen
to JAWS and
the TTS
at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat
message comes in
and is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the
message reread so
I can hear what I missed the first time?

Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and
Narrator if
they have
to both run at the same time?

Hope that makes sense.

Nancy














Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I'm reasonably sure TTS stands for Text-to-Speech. My first board had its own TTS module that loaded ahead of the screen reader, or talk program, as such software was then known.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nancy B. Gibson
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


Hi Michael,

Thanks for the link to that document. I actually already have that. I think they wrote it for us.

I'm beginning to wonder if the one who is making this hardest on me is me. My first dumb question is that the document talks about the Windows TTS and Narrator. Are they two different things or one in the same?

As it is now, the TTS is reading what happens in the Revation Communicator program. JAWS is responsible for everything else -- Resource House in internet explorer, the time clock system in Firefox and Outlook 2016. JAWS doesn't function well within the communicator so tabbing just speaks tab by JAWS and arrow keys are silent. Several of the keyboard commands Revation implemented don't actually work as supposed to.

I know Narrator has it's own set of keyboard commands so should those be in play anywhere or not relevant because Narrator and TTS are different?

It seems to me that there are so many children on the playground -- some of who are not playing nice -- but I don't know which one)s) they are.

What would I have to do to control what JAWS reads and when?

Overwhelmed and Lost
Nancy




----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Mote <miketmote73@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:40 am
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



Hi Nancy! This is very interesting to me. Based on what you're saying
here, whoever is setting up your AT is making this tougher on you than it
really should be. At least, I think that's the case. I say that because it
seems to me that if Narrator can read the incoming messages, JAWS should be
able to read them as well. To say that you cannot run both JAWS and
Narrator together is not accurate. You can do that, but I wouldn't
recommend it. You can switch JAWS to your headset, and allow Narrator to
run on the computer's sound card, if you need to do that.
My suggestion would be to figure out a way to make JAWS read things, when
you want it read, and not when you're in the middle of a call, because that
can be super distracting. It would be better for you to control when
messages are read.
I am sending a link below with some information that I found. I'm looking
for a list of shortcut keys that may help you as well, but haven't found
that document. I also did a search on my phone for a Revation Communicator
App, and I found one. I don't know if this would be easier to interact with
or not.
https://wiki.revation.com/display/KB/Using+Communicator+with+JAWS


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nancy B.
Gibson
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This is a call center also and at first I could listen to JAWS with one ear
and the caller with the other ear. Then we went with In Contact phone
system and I got both JAWS and the caller in the same ear. A little tricky
but I learned real fast to put people on hold so I could function with JAWS.
Now it's this new Revation Communicator system and I think they believe that
as long as what everyone else sees on the screen is read out to me that I
can magically take it all in and process it accordingly -- and stay sane in
the process. Oh yeah, the other part of this is that this is the first time
this company (whoever it is that makes this Revation communicator system)
has endeavored to make their system work with a screen reader. So lots of
assumptions as to how wonderful it will all be. We shall see.

Nancy

----- Original Message -----
From: David Moore <jesusloves1966@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center, and I had to listen
to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second ear, and my boss
yelling at me with my third ear LOL!
Wow, go figure LOL!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can follow too
audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the potential
conflicts that running 2 screen readers simultaneously may cause.
Who is in charge of your AT needs?
On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
The system is called Revation Communicator. I think it's proprietary.

From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the database and follow my
lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer. Narrator is
following the phone/chat system in real time and advising me of what's going
on. Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2 conversations/audio sources
simultaneously -- like multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.

Thanks for the input.

Nancy


Original Message -----
From: Randy Barnett <randy@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There are so many
variables with a system like that.

What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?
Does it speak or does Jaws?
If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech history will have
the message. insert + spacebar then h.
Generally you dont want two screen readers running at the same time.
On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
Hi List,

We're starting to use a phone system at work that includes chat
capability. I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so struggling a little to
keep up.

Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen to JAWS and the TTS
at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat message comes in and
is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the message reread so I can
hear what I missed the first time?

Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and Narrator if they have
to both run at the same time?

Hope that makes sense.

Nancy














Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Nancy B. Gibson
 

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the link to that document. I actually already have that. I think they wrote it for us.

I'm beginning to wonder if the one who is making this hardest on me is me. My first dumb question is that the document talks about the Windows TTS and Narrator. Are they two different things or one in the same?

As it is now, the TTS is reading what happens in the Revation Communicator program. JAWS is responsible for everything else -- Resource House in internet explorer, the time clock system in Firefox and Outlook 2016. JAWS doesn't function well within the communicator so tabbing just speaks tab by JAWS and arrow keys are silent. Several of the keyboard commands Revation implemented don't actually work as supposed to.

I know Narrator has it's own set of keyboard commands so should those be in play anywhere or not relevant because Narrator and TTS are different?

It seems to me that there are so many children on the playground -- some of who are not playing nice -- but I don't know which one)s) they are.

What would I have to do to control what JAWS reads and when?

Overwhelmed and Lost
Nancy

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Mote <miketmote73@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:40 am
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



Hi Nancy! This is very interesting to me. Based on what you're saying
here, whoever is setting up your AT is making this tougher on you than it
really should be. At least, I think that's the case. I say that because it
seems to me that if Narrator can read the incoming messages, JAWS should be
able to read them as well. To say that you cannot run both JAWS and
Narrator together is not accurate. You can do that, but I wouldn't
recommend it. You can switch JAWS to your headset, and allow Narrator to
run on the computer's sound card, if you need to do that.
My suggestion would be to figure out a way to make JAWS read things, when
you want it read, and not when you're in the middle of a call, because that
can be super distracting. It would be better for you to control when
messages are read.
I am sending a link below with some information that I found. I'm looking
for a list of shortcut keys that may help you as well, but haven't found
that document. I also did a search on my phone for a Revation Communicator
App, and I found one. I don't know if this would be easier to interact with
or not.
https://wiki.revation.com/display/KB/Using+Communicator+with+JAWS


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nancy B.
Gibson
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This is a call center also and at first I could listen to JAWS with one ear
and the caller with the other ear. Then we went with In Contact phone
system and I got both JAWS and the caller in the same ear. A little tricky
but I learned real fast to put people on hold so I could function with JAWS.
Now it's this new Revation Communicator system and I think they believe that
as long as what everyone else sees on the screen is read out to me that I
can magically take it all in and process it accordingly -- and stay sane in
the process. Oh yeah, the other part of this is that this is the first time
this company (whoever it is that makes this Revation communicator system)
has endeavored to make their system work with a screen reader. So lots of
assumptions as to how wonderful it will all be. We shall see.

Nancy

----- Original Message -----
From: David Moore <jesusloves1966@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center, and I had to listen
to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second ear, and my boss
yelling at me with my third ear LOL!
Wow, go figure LOL!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can follow too
audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the potential
conflicts that running 2 screen readers simultaneously may cause.
Who is in charge of your AT needs?
On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
The system is called Revation Communicator. I think it's proprietary.

From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the database and follow my
lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer. Narrator is
following the phone/chat system in real time and advising me of what's going
on. Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2 conversations/audio sources
simultaneously -- like multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.

Thanks for the input.

Nancy


Original Message -----
From: Randy Barnett <randy@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There are so many
variables with a system like that.

What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?
Does it speak or does Jaws?
If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech history will have
the message. insert + spacebar then h.
Generally you dont want two screen readers running at the same time.
On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
Hi List,

We're starting to use a phone system at work that includes chat
capability. I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so struggling a little to
keep up.

Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen to JAWS and the TTS
at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat message comes in and
is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the message reread so I can
hear what I missed the first time?

Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and Narrator if they have
to both run at the same time?

Hope that makes sense.

Nancy














Re: Fax by email service client My Fax with JFW18 & Win7

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi again,

Both services I mentioned have a thirty day trial. In my candid opinion,
Metrofax is better. More sheets per price. In Metro fax, their basic plan
gives you 500 sheets for $7.19/month and MyFax.com gives you 300 sheets
(restricted to 100sent and 200received) for $9.17/month.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hank &
Patty
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

Great, thanks for getting back to me so quickly with this web link info on
where I can get this program MyFax. Now, you say you sign up online, is it a
one time price for this program MyFax & if so, what is the one time cost of
this program MyFax? or do you pay a monthly subscription to be able to use
this program MyFax & if so do you maybe know what is the monthly
subscription price? Thanks very much in advance for any help you can maybe
give me with this.





All the best,

Hank


-----Original Message-----
From: HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

Hi Guys,

http://www.myfax.com/

http://www.metrofax.com/

these are the two I use. You sign up on line.
They are pretty much straitght forward in setting up and using.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hank &
Patty
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

Where can a person get this email to fax client program MyFax? Can you
download it off the net? or do you pick it up at Walmart or Staples? Lastly,
does this program MyFax have a free trial period to try it out? and do I
need to download particular jaws scripts to make it posible for Jaws 18 to
work very well and easily with this program MyFax? Any help I can maybe get
with this would be so very much appreciated. Much thanks in advance for any
help anyone can maybe give me with this.





All the best,
Jaws 18, Windows 7 user,

Hank


-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:14 PM
To: main@... roups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

MyFax does not, in fact, offer a free option. Strictly pay to play.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: July-19-17 2:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

I have the paid Myfax service (not sure if they offer anything for free),
but with it I never even go to a website, it's all done by email. If I want
to send a fax I simply send an email to the FaxNumber@... and attach
any files I want, they can be text files, Word or Excel files, PDF files,
pictures etc. You can put a name or recipient into the Subject field and
then just send the email. Anything you write into the email body field is
sent as a separate page.
Incoming faxes are received by email as well and the fax is a PDF attachment
as James already pointed out.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

I use MyFax, personally, and find it quite useable. The website's very
accessible. Of course, you'll need some kind of OCR ability if you intend to
receive faxes, as like most companies they send them to you as PDF images,
but other than that it's perfect.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Martz
Sent: July-19-17 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Fax by email services?

Hi all - I'm in need of a fax-by-email service and am wondering which are
compatible with JAWS.

Now, you might think, as I did, that the interface to the service would be
through email, so it would be as accessible (or not accessible ha ha) as MS
Outlook or whatever email client one uses. But, I started looking into eFax
just as one example, and it talked about their "friendly and easy to use web
interface", which immediately made me worry that the web interface might not
be accessible, because, as we all know, "friendly web interfaces" are all
too often NOT accessible at all.

Okay, I'll stop being bitter now and summarize my question:

Which fax-by-email services are people using, and has JAWS presented any
problem or are they pretty easy to use?

Thanks.
-Paul


Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

Hank & Patty <hank1patty@...>
 

Great, thanks for getting back to me so quickly with this web link info on where I can get this program MyFax. Now, you say you sign up online, is it a one time price for this program MyFax & if so, what is the one time cost of this program MyFax? or do you pay a monthly subscription to be able to use this program MyFax & if so do you maybe know what is the monthly subscription price? Thanks very much in advance for any help you can maybe give me with this.





All the best,

Hank

-----Original Message-----
From: HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

Hi Guys,

http://www.myfax.com/

http://www.metrofax.com/

these are the two I use. You sign up on line.
They are pretty much straitght forward in setting up and using.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hank &
Patty
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

Where can a person get this email to fax client program MyFax? Can you
download it off the net? or do you pick it up at Walmart or Staples? Lastly,
does this program MyFax have a free trial period to try it out? and do I
need to download particular jaws scripts to make it posible for Jaws 18 to
work very well and easily with this program MyFax? Any help I can maybe get
with this would be so very much appreciated. Much thanks in advance for any
help anyone can maybe give me with this.





All the best,
Jaws 18, Windows 7 user,

Hank


-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:14 PM
To: main@... roups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

MyFax does not, in fact, offer a free option. Strictly pay to play.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: July-19-17 2:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

I have the paid Myfax service (not sure if they offer anything for free),
but with it I never even go to a website, it's all done by email. If I want
to send a fax I simply send an email to the FaxNumber@... and attach
any files I want, they can be text files, Word or Excel files, PDF files,
pictures etc. You can put a name or recipient into the Subject field and
then just send the email. Anything you write into the email body field is
sent as a separate page.
Incoming faxes are received by email as well and the fax is a PDF attachment
as James already pointed out.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

I use MyFax, personally, and find it quite useable. The website's very
accessible. Of course, you'll need some kind of OCR ability if you intend to
receive faxes, as like most companies they send them to you as PDF images,
but other than that it's perfect.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Martz
Sent: July-19-17 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Fax by email services?

Hi all - I'm in need of a fax-by-email service and am wondering which are
compatible with JAWS.

Now, you might think, as I did, that the interface to the service would be
through email, so it would be as accessible (or not accessible ha ha) as MS
Outlook or whatever email client one uses. But, I started looking into eFax
just as one example, and it talked about their "friendly and easy to use web
interface", which immediately made me worry that the web interface might not
be accessible, because, as we all know, "friendly web interfaces" are all
too often NOT accessible at all.

Okay, I'll stop being bitter now and summarize my question:

Which fax-by-email services are people using, and has JAWS presented any
problem or are they pretty easy to use?

Thanks.
-Paul


Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi Guys,

http://www.myfax.com/

http://www.metrofax.com/

these are the two I use. You sign up on line.
They are pretty much straitght forward in setting up and using.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hank &
Patty
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

Where can a person get this email to fax client program MyFax? Can you
download it off the net? or do you pick it up at Walmart or Staples? Lastly,
does this program MyFax have a free trial period to try it out? and do I
need to download particular jaws scripts to make it posible for Jaws 18 to
work very well and easily with this program MyFax? Any help I can maybe get
with this would be so very much appreciated. Much thanks in advance for any
help anyone can maybe give me with this.





All the best,
Jaws 18, Windows 7 user,

Hank


-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:14 PM
To: main@... roups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

MyFax does not, in fact, offer a free option. Strictly pay to play.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: July-19-17 2:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

I have the paid Myfax service (not sure if they offer anything for free),
but with it I never even go to a website, it's all done by email. If I want
to send a fax I simply send an email to the FaxNumber@... and attach
any files I want, they can be text files, Word or Excel files, PDF files,
pictures etc. You can put a name or recipient into the Subject field and
then just send the email. Anything you write into the email body field is
sent as a separate page.
Incoming faxes are received by email as well and the fax is a PDF attachment
as James already pointed out.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

I use MyFax, personally, and find it quite useable. The website's very
accessible. Of course, you'll need some kind of OCR ability if you intend to
receive faxes, as like most companies they send them to you as PDF images,
but other than that it's perfect.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Martz
Sent: July-19-17 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Fax by email services?

Hi all - I'm in need of a fax-by-email service and am wondering which are
compatible with JAWS.

Now, you might think, as I did, that the interface to the service would be
through email, so it would be as accessible (or not accessible ha ha) as MS
Outlook or whatever email client one uses. But, I started looking into eFax
just as one example, and it talked about their "friendly and easy to use web
interface", which immediately made me worry that the web interface might not
be accessible, because, as we all know, "friendly web interfaces" are all
too often NOT accessible at all.

Okay, I'll stop being bitter now and summarize my question:

Which fax-by-email services are people using, and has JAWS presented any
problem or are they pretty easy to use?

Thanks.
-Paul


Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

honestly don’t know.  It even came with a decent hard case.  It would look like new if the vinyl covering had not torn off; if I’d known then what I know now, that would not have happened.  It’s USB, with one of those little mics that looks like a UHF whip antenna.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

 

Hi Ted!  What is the model of the ear piece that you’re using?  Just curious!  Thanks!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

 

I had a Plantronics double headset once that allowed me to listen to calls and JAWS.  Trouble is, I wound up with a cauliflower ear; at the end of the day I looked like Dumbo.  We sent it back, and I now do the same job with a single ear piece.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

 

This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center, and I had to listen to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second ear, and my boss yelling at me with my third ear LOL!

Wow, go figure LOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

 

That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can follow too

audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the potential conflicts

that running 2 screen readers simultaneously may cause.

Who is in charge of your AT needs?

On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:

> The system is called Revation Communicator.  I think it's proprietary.

>  From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the database and follow my lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer.  Narrator is following the phone/chat system in real time and advising me of what's going on.  Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2 conversations/audio sources simultaneously -- like multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.

> Thanks for the input.

> Nancy

> Original Message -----

> From: Randy Barnett  <randy@...>

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm

> Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

>> 

>> This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There are so many

>> variables with a system like that.

>> 

>> What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?

>> Does it speak or does Jaws?

>> If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech history will have the

>> message. insert + spacebar then h.

>> Generally you dont want two screen readers running at the same time.

>> On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:

>>> Hi List,

>>> 

>>> We're starting to use a phone system at work that includes chat capability.  I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so struggling a little to keep up.

>>> 

>>> Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen to JAWS and the TTS at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat message comes in and is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the message reread so I can hear what I missed the first time?

>>> 

>>> Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and Narrator if they have to both run at the same time?

>>> 

>>> Hope that makes sense.

>>> 

>>> Nancy

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 


Re: Fax by email service client MyFax with JFW18 & Win7

Hank & Patty <hank1patty@...>
 

Where can a person get this email to fax client program MyFax? Can you download it off the net? or do you pick it up at Walmart or Staples? Lastly, does this program MyFax have a free trial period to try it out? and do I need to download particular jaws scripts to make it posible for Jaws 18 to work very well and easily with this program MyFax? Any help I can maybe get with this would be so very much appreciated. Much thanks in advance for any help anyone can maybe give me with this.





All the best,
Jaws 18, Windows 7 user,

Hank

-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:14 PM
To: main@... roups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

MyFax does not, in fact, offer a free option. Strictly pay to play.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: July-19-17 2:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

I have the paid Myfax service (not sure if they offer anything for free),
but with it I never even go to a website, it's all done by email. If I want
to send a fax I simply send an email to the FaxNumber@... and attach
any files I want, they can be text files, Word or Excel files, PDF files,
pictures etc. You can put a name or recipient into the Subject field and
then just send the email. Anything you write into the email body field is
sent as a separate page.
Incoming faxes are received by email as well and the fax is a PDF attachment
as James already pointed out.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Fax by email services?

I use MyFax, personally, and find it quite useable. The website's very
accessible. Of course, you'll need some kind of OCR ability if you intend to
receive faxes, as like most companies they send them to you as PDF images,
but other than that it's perfect.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Martz
Sent: July-19-17 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Fax by email services?

Hi all - I'm in need of a fax-by-email service and am wondering which are
compatible with JAWS.

Now, you might think, as I did, that the interface to the service would be
through email, so it would be as accessible (or not accessible ha ha) as MS
Outlook or whatever email client one uses. But, I started looking into eFax
just as one example, and it talked about their "friendly and easy to use web
interface", which immediately made me worry that the web interface might not
be accessible, because, as we all know, "friendly web interfaces" are all
too often NOT accessible at all.

Okay, I'll stop being bitter now and summarize my question:

Which fax-by-email services are people using, and has JAWS presented any
problem or are they pretty easy to use?

Thanks.
-Paul


Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Michael Mote
 

Hi Ted!  What is the model of the ear piece that you’re using?  Just curious!  Thanks!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

 

I had a Plantronics double headset once that allowed me to listen to calls and JAWS.  Trouble is, I wound up with a cauliflower ear; at the end of the day I looked like Dumbo.  We sent it back, and I now do the same job with a single ear piece.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

 

This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center, and I had to listen to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second ear, and my boss yelling at me with my third ear LOL!

Wow, go figure LOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

 

That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can follow too

audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the potential conflicts

that running 2 screen readers simultaneously may cause.

Who is in charge of your AT needs?

On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:

> The system is called Revation Communicator.  I think it's proprietary.

>  From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the database and follow my lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer.  Narrator is following the phone/chat system in real time and advising me of what's going on.  Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2 conversations/audio sources simultaneously -- like multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.

> Thanks for the input.

> Nancy

> Original Message -----

> From: Randy Barnett  <randy@...>

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm

> Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

>> 

>> This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There are so many

>> variables with a system like that.

>> 

>> What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?

>> Does it speak or does Jaws?

>> If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech history will have the

>> message. insert + spacebar then h.

>> Generally you dont want two screen readers running at the same time.

>> On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:

>>> Hi List,

>>> 

>>> We're starting to use a phone system at work that includes chat capability.  I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so struggling a little to keep up.

>>> 

>>> Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen to JAWS and the TTS at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat message comes in and is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the message reread so I can hear what I missed the first time?

>>> 

>>> Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and Narrator if they have to both run at the same time?

>>> 

>>> Hope that makes sense.

>>> 

>>> Nancy

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 


Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Michael Mote
 

Hi Nancy! This is very interesting to me. Based on what you're saying
here, whoever is setting up your AT is making this tougher on you than it
really should be. At least, I think that's the case. I say that because it
seems to me that if Narrator can read the incoming messages, JAWS should be
able to read them as well. To say that you cannot run both JAWS and
Narrator together is not accurate. You can do that, but I wouldn't
recommend it. You can switch JAWS to your headset, and allow Narrator to
run on the computer's sound card, if you need to do that.
My suggestion would be to figure out a way to make JAWS read things, when
you want it read, and not when you're in the middle of a call, because that
can be super distracting. It would be better for you to control when
messages are read.
I am sending a link below with some information that I found. I'm looking
for a list of shortcut keys that may help you as well, but haven't found
that document. I also did a search on my phone for a Revation Communicator
App, and I found one. I don't know if this would be easier to interact with
or not.
https://wiki.revation.com/display/KB/Using+Communicator+with+JAWS

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nancy B.
Gibson
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This is a call center also and at first I could listen to JAWS with one ear
and the caller with the other ear. Then we went with In Contact phone
system and I got both JAWS and the caller in the same ear. A little tricky
but I learned real fast to put people on hold so I could function with JAWS.
Now it's this new Revation Communicator system and I think they believe that
as long as what everyone else sees on the screen is read out to me that I
can magically take it all in and process it accordingly -- and stay sane in
the process. Oh yeah, the other part of this is that this is the first time
this company (whoever it is that makes this Revation communicator system)
has endeavored to make their system work with a screen reader. So lots of
assumptions as to how wonderful it will all be. We shall see.

Nancy

----- Original Message -----
From: David Moore <jesusloves1966@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center, and I had to listen
to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second ear, and my boss
yelling at me with my third ear LOL!
Wow, go figure LOL!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can follow too
audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the potential
conflicts that running 2 screen readers simultaneously may cause.
Who is in charge of your AT needs?
On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
The system is called Revation Communicator. I think it's proprietary.

From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the database and follow my
lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer. Narrator is
following the phone/chat system in real time and advising me of what's going
on. Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2 conversations/audio sources
simultaneously -- like multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.

Thanks for the input.

Nancy


Original Message -----
From: Randy Barnett <randy@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There are so many
variables with a system like that.

What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?
Does it speak or does Jaws?
If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech history will have
the message. insert + spacebar then h.
Generally you dont want two screen readers running at the same time.
On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
Hi List,

We're starting to use a phone system at work that includes chat
capability. I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so struggling a little to
keep up.

Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen to JAWS and the TTS
at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat message comes in and
is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the message reread so I can
hear what I missed the first time?

Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and Narrator if they have
to both run at the same time?

Hope that makes sense.

Nancy









Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I had a Plantronics double headset once that allowed me to listen to calls and JAWS.  Trouble is, I wound up with a cauliflower ear; at the end of the day I looked like Dumbo.  We sent it back, and I now do the same job with a single ear piece.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

 

This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center, and I had to listen to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second ear, and my boss yelling at me with my third ear LOL!

Wow, go figure LOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

 

That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can follow too

audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the potential conflicts

that running 2 screen readers simultaneously may cause.

Who is in charge of your AT needs?

On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:

> The system is called Revation Communicator.  I think it's proprietary.

>  From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the database and follow my lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer.  Narrator is following the phone/chat system in real time and advising me of what's going on.  Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2 conversations/audio sources simultaneously -- like multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.

> Thanks for the input.

> Nancy

> Original Message -----

> From: Randy Barnett  <randy@...>

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm

> Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

>> 

>> This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There are so many

>> variables with a system like that.

>> 

>> What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?

>> Does it speak or does Jaws?

>> If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech history will have the

>> message. insert + spacebar then h.

>> Generally you dont want two screen readers running at the same time.

>> On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:

>>> Hi List,

>>> 

>>> We're starting to use a phone system at work that includes chat capability.  I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so struggling a little to keep up.

>>> 

>>> Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen to JAWS and the TTS at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat message comes in and is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the message reread so I can hear what I missed the first time?

>>> 

>>> Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and Narrator if they have to both run at the same time?

>>> 

>>> Hope that makes sense.

>>> 

>>> Nancy

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 


Re: Multiple JAWS Versions On One License

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

It was one of those situations where I was having a lot of trouble with Juno, which I eventually abandoned.  Furthermore, I was using Chrome, which was a no-no at that time.  The crash trashed the authorization, and Restore brought it back—end of story.]

 

Another time my antivirus put the volume control in quarantine—gotta watch those volume controls.  Of course, I got it out but, in doing so, lost it;  Restore fixed that too.

 

Overall, that’s one of the coolest tools Microsoft has ever given us.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Multiple JAWS Versions On One License

 

System restore wouldn't bring the authorization back if it mysteriously went missing. I don't think Windows considers it a settings file.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: July-19-17 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Multiple JAWS Versions On One License

Even then, System Restore might put you right again.  It worked for me a few years back after a faulty shutdown.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Multiple JAWS Versions On One License

 

That depends exactly what problems you're having, and what version you're running now. That may be beneficial to put in a new thread. To your question, using the versions of JAWS you're licensed for won't use up your SMA's. Only if you have to do a reinstall, or somehow the authorization gets deleted.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: July-19-17 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Multiple JAWS Versions On One License

I am running Windows 7 and have some difficulties with the internet.  Do you think I would do any better if I were to put an older version of Jaws on my computer?  If so, which would you reccommend?  Thanks.  Also, would additional versions use up my SMAs?

Carol

On 7/19/2017 2:17 PM, James Homuth wrote:

It's perfectly fine, and probably encouraged. You're authorized to run any version of JAWS up to and including whichever version your SMA stops at. In the "about JAWS" dialogue box, it'll give you a number of upgrades remaining. This is the number of versions of JAWS you're authorized to use with this license. You could have every single one of them installed on your machine and switch between them as needed if you were so inclined.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: July-19-17 2:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Multiple JAWS Versions On One License

Hi, it's Annabelle.

Freedom Scientific just upgraded my license of JAWS to JAWS 15 for free, and I have a couple important questions. First of all, is it OK for me to have two versions of JAWS on the same machine? More importantly, is it OK to have two versions on the same license?


Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I worked in a hospital, had three scissor headsets put together with tapes - one for my screen reader (Vocal Eyes back then) one headset for my main Dictaphone machine and one for a little cassette recorder we used for x-ray reports.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center, and I had to listen to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second ear, and my boss yelling at me with my third ear LOL!

Wow, go figure LOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10



From: Randy Barnett <mailto:randy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can follow too

audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the potential conflicts

that running 2 screen readers simultaneously may cause.

Who is in charge of your AT needs?

On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:

The system is called Revation Communicator. I think it's proprietary.
From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the database and follow my lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer. Narrator is following the phone/chat system in real time and advising me of what's going on. Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2 conversations/audio sources simultaneously -- like multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.
Thanks for the input.
Nancy
Original Message -----
From: Randy Barnett <randy@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18
This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There are so many
variables with a system like that.
What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?
Does it speak or does Jaws?
If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech history will have the
message. insert + spacebar then h.
Generally you dont want two screen readers running at the same time.
On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
Hi List,
We're starting to use a phone system at work that includes chat capability. I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so struggling a little to keep up.
Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen to JAWS and the TTS at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat message comes in and is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the message reread so I can hear what I missed the first time?
Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and Narrator if they have to both run at the same time?
Hope that makes sense.
Nancy


Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Nancy B. Gibson
 

This is a call center also and at first I could listen to JAWS with one ear and the caller with the other ear. Then we went with In Contact phone system and I got both JAWS and the caller in the same ear. A little tricky but I learned real fast to put people on hold so I could function with JAWS. Now it's this new Revation Communicator system and I think they believe that as long as what everyone else sees on the screen is read out to me that I can magically take it all in and process it accordingly -- and stay sane in the process. Oh yeah, the other part of this is that this is the first time this company (whoever it is that makes this Revation communicator system) has endeavored to make their system work with a screen reader. So lots of assumptions as to how wonderful it will all be. We shall see.

Nancy

----- Original Message -----
From: David Moore <jesusloves1966@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18



This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center, and I had to listen to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second ear, and my boss yelling at me with my third ear LOL!
Wow, go figure LOL!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can follow too
audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the potential conflicts
that running 2 screen readers simultaneously may cause.
Who is in charge of your AT needs?
On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
The system is called Revation Communicator. I think it's proprietary.

From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the database and follow my lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer. Narrator is following the phone/chat system in real time and advising me of what's going on. Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2 conversations/audio sources simultaneously -- like multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.

Thanks for the input.

Nancy


Original Message -----
From: Randy Barnett <randy@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There are so many
variables with a system like that.

What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?
Does it speak or does Jaws?
If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech history will have the
message. insert + spacebar then h.
Generally you dont want two screen readers running at the same time.
On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:
Hi List,

We're starting to use a phone system at work that includes chat capability. I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so struggling a little to keep up.

Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen to JAWS and the TTS at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat message comes in and is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the message reread so I can hear what I missed the first time?

Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and Narrator if they have to both run at the same time?

Hope that makes sense.

Nancy









Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

Jason White
 

When I’m in a teleconference or on a phone call, I use Insert+Space, S to turn speech off, then work entirely from the braille display. I use the braille display a lot anyway, but in those situations I find it better to turn speech off altogether.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

 

This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center, and I had to listen to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second ear, and my boss yelling at me with my third ear LOL!

Wow, go figure LOL!

David Moore

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From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

 

That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can follow too

audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the potential conflicts

that running 2 screen readers simultaneously may cause.

Who is in charge of your AT needs?

On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:

> The system is called Revation Communicator.  I think it's proprietary.

>  From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the database and follow my lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer.  Narrator is following the phone/chat system in real time and advising me of what's going on.  Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2 conversations/audio sources simultaneously -- like multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.

> Thanks for the input.

> Nancy

> Original Message -----

> From: Randy Barnett  <randy@...>

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm

> Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

>> 

>> This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There are so many

>> variables with a system like that.

>> 

>> What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?

>> Does it speak or does Jaws?

>> If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech history will have the

>> message. insert + spacebar then h.

>> Generally you dont want two screen readers running at the same time.

>> On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:

>>> Hi List,

>>> 

>>> We're starting to use a phone system at work that includes chat capability.  I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so struggling a little to keep up.

>>> 

>>> Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen to JAWS and the TTS at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat message comes in and is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the message reread so I can hear what I missed the first time?

>>> 

>>> Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and Narrator if they have to both run at the same time?

>>> 

>>> Hope that makes sense.

>>> 

>>> Nancy

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 


Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

David Moore
 

This is a good discussion. I worked in a call center, and I had to listen to JAWS in one ear, the person on the phone in my second ear, and my boss yelling at me with my third ear LOL!

Wow, go figure LOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

 

That is an unreasonable requirement. Not many people can follow too

audio sources at the same time... Not to mention the potential conflicts

that running 2 screen readers simultaneously may cause.

Who is in charge of your AT needs?

On 7/19/2017 10:37 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:

> The system is called Revation Communicator.  I think it's proprietary.

>  From what I gather, JAWS is there to read the database and follow my lead of what I need to look up or read on the computer.  Narrator is following the phone/chat system in real time and advising me of what's going on.  Ultimately, I'm supposed to keep track of 2 conversations/audio sources simultaneously -- like multi-tasking but I don't multi-task well that way.

> Thanks for the input.

> Nancy

> Original Message -----

> From: Randy Barnett  <randy@...>

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:13 pm

> Subject: Re: Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

>> 

>> This sounds like an issue for the IT department.There are so many

>> variables with a system like that.

>> 

>> What phone system is it? Is it proprietary?

>> Does it speak or does Jaws?

>> If Jaws is reading the chat window then speech history will have the

>> message. insert + spacebar then h.

>> Generally you dont want two screen readers running at the same time.

>> On 7/19/2017 9:59 AM, Nancy B. Gibson wrote:

>>> Hi List,

>>> 

>>> We're starting to use a phone system at work that includes chat capability.  I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so struggling a little to keep up.

>>> 

>>> Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen to JAWS and the TTS at the same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat message comes in and is spoken by the TTS, is there a way to have the message reread so I can hear what I missed the first time?

>>> 

>>> Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and Narrator if they have to both run at the same time?

>>> 

>>> Hope that makes sense.

>>> 

>>> Nancy

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 

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