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Re: Scroll lock on question

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

One' thing it'll do is mess up Excel navigation when turned on; it freezes it, hence the name.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John O'Regan
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 3:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scroll lock on question

Hi Marilyn,

To the right of F12 are the Print Screen, Scroll Lock, and Pause keys.
Press Scroll Lock twice quickly to turn Scroll Lock on, and press
twice quickly again to turn it off. And no, I don't know what it does
either. ;)

HTH!

John


Re: How do I lock the Insert key?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Where you have Insert, most I've seen have scroll-lock, a key that's been mostly useless since early DOS. I think we have one app here that uses it, and it's being phased out.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I lock the Insert key?

Both insert keys act the same by default. I have never had to change anything to enable it. almost all keyboards have the insert near the F12 key. Some are in the six pack and some are in a row of 3 buttons insert, print screen and pause. If you only have 5 keys in your "six pack" then it is in the 3 buttons above the "six pack".
HTH


Combining Multiple JDF's

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Wonder if anybody has had to do this.  I’m now the proud owner of the study Bible I’ve long sought.  It’s done in HTML, and, of course, requires its own dictionary, so Explorer.JDF is occupied.  However, I have another copy stored separately, and thought about adding it to the default dictionary—simple copy and paste.  What do you guys think?

 

Ted

 

Ted Lisle, PH .D. medicaid Spec 3, (502)564-2574

 


one-hand keyboard

David Pearson
 

Hello all:

Lost use of my left hand(as well as eyesight) due to stroke while undergoing surgical procedure several years ago. Consequently, am now one hand(right)typist.

Tried to re-learn typing with conventional keyboard, but extremely difficult. Have been using one-hand keyboard offered by Matias corp. for several years.

It makes liberal use of the space bar to "shift" the letters/keys to useful typing hand. Am using Dell desktop pc, Windows7, and Jaws18. Not endorsing product/company, and it may not befor everyone, but works well for my situation.

Sure that it could be configured for either typing hand, and requires practice. Believe to be Canadian company. Not sure of price, but American $ is currently at a premium.

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson


Re: using JAWS in laptop mode with one hand

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi,

If you google “one-hand keyboard left or right” there are quite a bit of search results with varying price s.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ross de Vent
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using JAWS in laptop mode with one hand

 

Hello,

I have only got the use of my left hand so use JAWS with laptop keystrokes and type with one handed technique.

 

I am not that computer savvy but able to do basic things like email and searching on the internet etc. I want to be better at getting around my computer and have been going through the basic training for JAWS.

 

I find it a struggle to reach the basic navigation keystrokes like move by word, sentence or paragraph in laptop mode. I have just been reading about the different cursors. The laptop keystroke for the JAWS cursor is caps lock + P. I can barely reach this. Then the next keystroke it goes through is route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, Laptop users press CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET. You can forget it, I cannot reach this at all.

 

I guess what I am wondering is short of remapping all the keystrokes I cannot reach, have the good people who make JAWS ever considered this? For example, it would make life so much easier if the navigation keystrokes were all on the left hand side of the keyboard because I am using the caps lock key as the JAWS key.

 

I am wondering what people think about this?

 

Kind regaards,

Ross, from Australia.

 


Re: JAWS Say Cap Letter Instead of Pitch

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I tried that once, personally do not like it like pitching
my shift keys at 40.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 3:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Say Cap Letter Instead of Pitch

Hi Stanley,

Try the following, but the steps below aren't complete
because of the various options you get after making changes
to a scheme

1. Open the Settings Center with, Jaws / Insert key + 6, on
the number row, & press, control, shift + D, to open
Settings Center default all applications 2. Arrow down to
Speech & Sound Schemes, right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Modify Schemes...., & press the spacebar
to open. Don't press enter here! Pressing enter will close
the Settings Center. Also make note of what scheme is
highlighted as the default scheme.
4. Tab to, edit selected scheme button, & press the
spacebar.
5. You should be on the, General Page / tab so, control +
tab to the Misc.
page / tab, & tab 1 time into the list of options.
Arrow down to, Cap Speak text Using
SingleCapVoice,
tab 1 time to a list of choices, arrow up / down to, Speak
Item checked.
Now you'll have to choose what you want to do, modify, save,
create new....
by tabbing through the dialogues & making your choices.
It might take some experimentation because you'll need to
Apply / Okay a few times in order to make this the default
or whatever you choose to do with this altered / changed
scheme. I'm sorry I can't make these steps more complete,
but my personal choices could be different than your own, so
that's why I said it will take some experimentation.
HTH

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license
agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, &
click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stanley Haupt <mailto:bookworm@ptd.net>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 12:27 PM
Subject: JAWS Say Cap Letter Instead of Pitch


Is there a feature in JAWS to have it say Cap Letter instead
of pitch? This was a feature that was available in
Window-Eyes.



Stanley


Re: using JAWS in laptop mode with one hand

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Ross, is there some way that you could reassign hot keys to
make them more accessible for you?

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ross de Vent
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using JAWS in laptop mode with one hand

Hello,

I have only got the use of my left hand so use JAWS with
laptop keystrokes and type with one handed technique.



I am not that computer savvy but able to do basic things
like email and searching on the internet etc. I want to be
better at getting around my computer and have been going
through the basic training for JAWS.



I find it a struggle to reach the basic navigation
keystrokes like move by word, sentence or paragraph in
laptop mode. I have just been reading about the different
cursors. The laptop keystroke for the JAWS cursor is caps
lock + P. I can barely reach this. Then the next keystroke
it goes through is route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor,
Laptop users press CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET. You can forget
it, I cannot reach this at all.



I guess what I am wondering is short of remapping all the
keystrokes I cannot reach, have the good people who make
JAWS ever considered this? For example, it would make life
so much easier if the navigation keystrokes were all on the
left hand side of the keyboard because I am using the caps
lock key as the JAWS key.



I am wondering what people think about this?



Kind regaards,

Ross, from Australia.


Re: using JAWS in laptop mode with one hand

Mario
 

to point out, the insert mode is a JAWS feature, and the sticky keys is
a Windows strategy. do both features need to be enabled?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net]
Sent: Monday, Jul 10, 2017 4:02 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using JAWS in laptop mode with one hand

Hi Ross,

Have you heard about Insert & Sticky key modes? They're explained below.
Hopefully they'll offer some help.

Insert Key Mode:
Try the following to turn the Insert Key Mode on / off. This only works in
the Settings Center Default All Applications.
1. Open the Settings Center in either of these 2 ways.
A. Press, Insert / Jaws Key + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard.
B. Press, Insert / Jaws Key + F2, to open the, Jaws Manager, arrow down,
Settings Center, & press enter.
With the Settings Center open press, control, shift , + D, to open the
Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Users, right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Insert Key Mode, to check or uncheck this box. Here's the
explanation of this option:
When selected, the INSERT key functions as a sticky key. Any key pressed
immediately after pressing the INSERT key is treated as if it were pressed
in combination with the INSERT key. This check box is cleared by default.

Sticky Keys:
Sticky Keys, can be turned on / off by pressing the, Shift key, 5 times,
quickly. If you press the Shifft Key 5 times quickly
you will get a dialogue stating the following:
Sticky Keys
Do you want to turn on Sticky Keys?
Sticky Keys lets you use the SHIFT, CTRL, ALT, or Windows Logo keys by
pressing one key
at a time. The keyboard shortcut to turn on Sticky Keys is to press the
SHIFT key 5 times.
Go to the Ease of Access Center to disable the keyboard shortcut

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross de Vent
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 10:47 AM
Subject: using JAWS in laptop mode with one hand


Hello,

I have only got the use of my left hand so use JAWS with laptop keystrokes
and type with one handed technique.



I am not that computer savvy but able to do basic things like email and
searching on the internet etc. I want to be better at getting around my
computer and have been going through the basic training for JAWS.



I find it a struggle to reach the basic navigation keystrokes like move by
word, sentence or paragraph in laptop mode. I have just been reading about
the different cursors. The laptop keystroke for the JAWS cursor is caps lock
+ P. I can barely reach this. Then the next keystroke it goes through is
route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, Laptop users press CAPS LOCK+LEFT
BRACKET. You can forget it, I cannot reach this at all.



I guess what I am wondering is short of remapping all the keystrokes I
cannot reach, have the good people who make JAWS ever considered this? For
example, it would make life so much easier if the navigation keystrokes were
all on the left hand side of the keyboard because I am using the caps lock
key as the JAWS key.



I am wondering what people think about this?



Kind regaards,

Ross, from Australia.


Re: Word lists, pretty cool things!

Pablo Morales
 

Word list does exactly what you are asking.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of john clayton
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 8:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Word lists, pretty cool things!

 

Hello Ashleigh,

Thank you for the detailed explanation, this answers all my questions on wordlists, but alas wordlists do not deal with my original question of finding multiple arguments during ctrl f, jaws find searches.

Suppose scripting is the only way so far to deal with this.

Thank you either way, learned something I did not know before,eh. :)

 

On 10 July 2017 at 18:16, Ashleigh Piccinino <apiccinino@...> wrote:

Hello,

     No, I’m not Smith, but I can give you a little tutorial on the word list. When you’re in a Microsoft Word document, or something else I presume and you want to bring up the word list, just hit insert CTRL and w. This’ll bring up the word list, and words are indexed by how many times they’ve been used. In other words, if you’ve used the word sociology a bunch of times in your document, it’ll show up with that number of uses behind it in the list. The words which’ve only been used once won’t have a number, but they’ll be near the bottom of the list. Here’s the neat thing though! If you search for a word—I’d do this by either trying to type a couple letters of it but searching the list by arrow works too--, you can press enter on the first time that word’s used. When your navigation quick keys are turned on (insert z), you can hit a plain w to go to the next instance of that word. However, IF YOU SEEK TO ARROW THROUGH this document while your quick-nav is running, you will have to turn it back on in order to find the next occurrence of your word. You cannot edit the document when this is on, so you’d have to turn it off beforehand. However, the word list gives you an idea of how many times you’ve used certain words/the whole documents worth of words common or not. If you need any more help, feel free to either send to apiccinino@... or write to the list. Yes, this goes for everyone here since, in my opinion, these aren’t really talked about. When you need extra help than I’ve provided, the JAWS help topics in training (JAWS window and alt h for the help) can assist you. Word lists are near the bottom of the books of training materials. If you’ve not updated this in a while, just press enter as if you were going to read and follow any instructions to download a new version of the book.

Thank you for reading, and I hope these tips help,

Ashleigh S. Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: john clayton
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question on jaws finder

 

Hello Smith,

I haven't heard about wordlists at all,besides of course when pressing w on a webpage. so could you explain what they are and how do they work?

or point me to a help file/dock that explains it?

Thank you!

 

On 9 July 2017 at 01:43, HH. Smith Jr. <teos1@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Just pulling a rabbit out of my hat, a word list just might be the only solution to your query; unless, someone has a better solution.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of nishantrana3@...
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 12:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question on jaws finder

 

Hello all,

 I am new to this list but not really new to using jaws. However recently I find myself using the jaws finder a lot of times,and had  a question so figured what place better than here to ask about it?

My question is,is there a way jaws can find multiple words or look for not just 1 string but more than 1?
I.E currently,if I do ctrl f when browsing a page,and type john for instance jaws will look for the occurrence of the word john on the page. now is there a way I could make it look for not only john but also  jane on the page at once?
So that when I press f3,it gets to me either of the words it finds first,press f3 again and it does the same?
If this can only be done through scripts and the like,could someone help me out as I am not at all good with jaws scripting and bairly know a thing about it.
Thanks.




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“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”

 




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“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”


Re: migration from w/e to jaws question

Phil Cox <pdcox@...>
 

Hello
 
jawskey+j  then h, then a  which will open the About Jaws page that contains the SMA info on your system.
 
HTH
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: migration from w/e to jaws question

Press your insert CTRL and v command when you’re on the JAWS window. It won’t say SMA, but upgrade, so it’ll say “upgrades remaining: 2.” Need more help? Feel free to write back.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: mcLeod stinnett
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 12:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: migration from w/e to jaws question

 

--
  from, mack  when I migrated to jaws from w/e, I had 2 sma's remaining with w/e. where do I go in jaws to check if I still have them, thanks

 


Re: using JAWS in laptop mode with one hand

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

I have the use of both hands, but I often thought having a keyboard with a numpad and escape key on both sides would be handy just for when I am having my morning coffee if nothing else.

Cheers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ross de Vent
Sent: July 10, 2017 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using JAWS in laptop mode with one hand

 

Hello,

I have only got the use of my left hand so use JAWS with laptop keystrokes and type with one handed technique.

 

I am not that computer savvy but able to do basic things like email and searching on the internet etc. I want to be better at getting around my computer and have been going through the basic training for JAWS.

 

I find it a struggle to reach the basic navigation keystrokes like move by word, sentence or paragraph in laptop mode. I have just been reading about the different cursors. The laptop keystroke for the JAWS cursor is caps lock + P. I can barely reach this. Then the next keystroke it goes through is route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, Laptop users press CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET. You can forget it, I cannot reach this at all.

 

I guess what I am wondering is short of remapping all the keystrokes I cannot reach, have the good people who make JAWS ever considered this? For example, it would make life so much easier if the navigation keystrokes were all on the left hand side of the keyboard because I am using the caps lock key as the JAWS key.

 

I am wondering what people think about this?

 

Kind regaards,

Ross, from Australia.

 


Re: using JAWS in laptop mode with one hand

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Ross,
 
Have you heard about Insert & Sticky key modes?  They're explained below.  Hopefully they'll offer some help.
 
Insert Key Mode:
Try the following to turn the Insert Key Mode on / off.  This only works in
the Settings Center Default All Applications.
1. Open the Settings Center in either of these 2 ways.
A. Press, Insert / Jaws Key + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard.
B. Press, Insert / Jaws Key + F2, to open the, Jaws Manager, arrow down,
Settings Center, & press enter.
With the Settings Center open press, control, shift , + D, to open the
Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Users, right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Insert Key Mode, to check or uncheck this box.  Here's the
explanation of this option:
When selected, the INSERT key functions as a sticky key. Any key pressed
immediately after pressing the INSERT key is treated as if it were pressed
in combination with the INSERT key. This check box is cleared by default.
 
Sticky Keys:
Sticky Keys, can be turned on / off by pressing the, Shift key, 5 times, quickly.  If you press the Shifft Key 5 times quickly
you will get a dialogue stating the following:
Sticky Keys
Do you want to turn on Sticky Keys?
Sticky Keys lets you use the SHIFT, CTRL, ALT, or Windows Logo keys by
pressing one key
at a time. The keyboard shortcut to turn on Sticky Keys is to press the
SHIFT key 5 times.
Go to the Ease of Access Center to disable the keyboard shortcut
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 10:47 AM
Subject: using JAWS in laptop mode with one hand

Hello,

I have only got the use of my left hand so use JAWS with laptop keystrokes and type with one handed technique.

 

I am not that computer savvy but able to do basic things like email and searching on the internet etc. I want to be better at getting around my computer and have been going through the basic training for JAWS.

 

I find it a struggle to reach the basic navigation keystrokes like move by word, sentence or paragraph in laptop mode. I have just been reading about the different cursors. The laptop keystroke for the JAWS cursor is caps lock + P. I can barely reach this. Then the next keystroke it goes through is route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, Laptop users press CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET. You can forget it, I cannot reach this at all.

 

I guess what I am wondering is short of remapping all the keystrokes I cannot reach, have the good people who make JAWS ever considered this? For example, it would make life so much easier if the navigation keystrokes were all on the left hand side of the keyboard because I am using the caps lock key as the JAWS key.

 

I am wondering what people think about this?

 

Kind regaards,

Ross, from Australia.

 


Re: JAWS Say Cap Letter Instead of Pitch

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Stanley,
 
Try the following, but the steps below aren't complete because of the
various options you get after making changes to a scheme

1. Open the Settings Center with, Jaws / Insert key + 6, on the number row,
& press, control, shift + D, to open Settings Center default all
applications
2. Arrow down to Speech & Sound Schemes, right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Modify Schemes...., & press the spacebar to open.  Don't
press enter here!  Pressing enter will close the Settings Center.  Also make
note of what scheme is highlighted as the default scheme.
4. Tab to, edit selected scheme button, & press the spacebar.
5. You should be on the, General Page / tab so, control + tab to the Misc.
page / tab, & tab 1 time into the list of options.
 Arrow down to, Cap             Speak text           Using SingleCapVoice,
tab 1 time to a list of choices, arrow up / down to, Speak Item checked.
Now you'll have to choose what you want to do, modify, save, create new....
by tabbing through the dialogues & making your choices.
It might take some experimentation because you'll need to Apply / Okay a few
times in order to make this the default or whatever you choose to do with
this altered / changed scheme.  I'm sorry I can't make these steps more
complete, but my personal choices could be different than your own, so
that's why I said it will take some experimentation.
HTH
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 12:27 PM
Subject: JAWS Say Cap Letter Instead of Pitch

Is there a feature in JAWS to have it say Cap Letter instead of pitch? This was a feature that was available in Window-Eyes.

 

Stanley

 

 


Re: JAWS Not Reading Outlook Messages

Nancy B. Gibson
 

 

Hi Paul,

 

Thanks for the suggestions but the difference seems to be between 2007 and 2010 and newer.  A very nice gentleman named Dennis called me today and was able to figure it out.  I’m not technical so all I can say is that it had something to do with a setting in Outlook 2007 that is no longer relevant for newer versions of MS Office.  So now I am easily able to read all my email using JAWS.

 

Nancy

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Martz
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Not Reading Outlook Messages

 

I occasionally encounter this issue. I’m using current JAWS with Outlook 2010 on Windows 7. I think there are two different situations that cause the issue.

 

First, I believe it’s somehow related to the format of the email message. There are plain text emails, HTML emails, and then some strange third flavor that causes JAWS to freak out. If JAWS is able to read some emails but not others, then you should suspect message format as the culprit. I don’t know a way to work around this.

 

Second, sometimes JAWS just gets in a mode where it won’t read any emails. If it refuses to read even emails it has successfully read in the past, then this is the problem you’re encountering. I usually try a series of restarts until things are working again (e.g., close and re-open Outlook, if that doesn’t work close and restart JAWS, if that doesn’t work reboot the computer).

 

Here are a couple other issues I’ve noticed.

 

Sometimes you hit enter to read an email, but JAWS focus lands on the message subject instead of the message body. You have to tab around to find the message body. Frustrating.

 

And, from working with computers owned by other JAWS users, I’ve discovered that the Outlook configuration can contribute to usage problems. I find it best to turn off preview pane, set the messages to display as a list with a single line showing sender, subject, and date, and configuring each message to open in a new window. The setting to nest messages in a thread is personal preference – turning it on causes its own set of headaches, but turning it off might be intolerable.

 

Well I hope all this rambling helps.

   -Paul

 

 


Re: migration from w/e to jaws question

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Press your insert CTRL and v command when you’re on the JAWS window. It won’t say SMA, but upgrade, so it’ll say “upgrades remaining: 2.” Need more help? Feel free to write back.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: mcLeod stinnett
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 12:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: migration from w/e to jaws question

 

--
  from, mack  when I migrated to jaws from w/e, I had 2 sma's remaining with w/e. where do I go in jaws to check if I still have them, thanks

 


Re: JAWS Not Reading Outlook Messages

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

One thing I have experienced severl times is the Outlook window, or the message window, has somehow gotten changed from maximized to a smaller screen. I’ve been told by sighted folks seeing this situation that I needed to expand the window. So, I do an Alt plus spacebar, followed by X on both the Outlook window and message window, and that has worked some of the time.


Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Martz
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 10:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Not Reading Outlook Messages

 

I occasionally encounter this issue. I’m using current JAWS with Outlook 2010 on Windows 7. I think there are two different situations that cause the issue.

 

First, I believe it’s somehow related to the format of the email message. There are plain text emails, HTML emails, and then some strange third flavor that causes JAWS to freak out. If JAWS is able to read some emails but not others, then you should suspect message format as the culprit. I don’t know a way to work around this.

 

Second, sometimes JAWS just gets in a mode where it won’t read any emails. If it refuses to read even emails it has successfully read in the past, then this is the problem you’re encountering. I usually try a series of restarts until things are working again (e.g., close and re-open Outlook, if that doesn’t work close and restart JAWS, if that doesn’t work reboot the computer).

 

Here are a couple other issues I’ve noticed.

 

Sometimes you hit enter to read an email, but JAWS focus lands on the message subject instead of the message body. You have to tab around to find the message body. Frustrating.

 

And, from working with computers owned by other JAWS users, I’ve discovered that the Outlook configuration can contribute to usage problems. I find it best to turn off preview pane, set the messages to display as a list with a single line showing sender, subject, and date, and configuring each message to open in a new window. The setting to nest messages in a thread is personal preference – turning it on causes its own set of headaches, but turning it off might be intolerable.

 

Well I hope all this rambling helps.

   -Paul

 

 


JAWS Say Cap Letter Instead of Pitch

Stanley Haupt
 

Is there a feature in JAWS to have it say Cap Letter instead of pitch? This was a feature that was available in Window-Eyes.

 

Stanley

 

 


using JAWS in laptop mode with one hand

Ross de Vent <ross@...>
 

Hello,

I have only got the use of my left hand so use JAWS with laptop keystrokes and type with one handed technique.

 

I am not that computer savvy but able to do basic things like email and searching on the internet etc. I want to be better at getting around my computer and have been going through the basic training for JAWS.

 

I find it a struggle to reach the basic navigation keystrokes like move by word, sentence or paragraph in laptop mode. I have just been reading about the different cursors. The laptop keystroke for the JAWS cursor is caps lock + P. I can barely reach this. Then the next keystroke it goes through is route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, Laptop users press CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET. You can forget it, I cannot reach this at all.

 

I guess what I am wondering is short of remapping all the keystrokes I cannot reach, have the good people who make JAWS ever considered this? For example, it would make life so much easier if the navigation keystrokes were all on the left hand side of the keyboard because I am using the caps lock key as the JAWS key.

 

I am wondering what people think about this?

 

Kind regaards,

Ross, from Australia.

 


Re: JAWS Not Reading Outlook Messages

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

I occasionally encounter this issue. I’m using current JAWS with Outlook 2010 on Windows 7. I think there are two different situations that cause the issue.

 

First, I believe it’s somehow related to the format of the email message. There are plain text emails, HTML emails, and then some strange third flavor that causes JAWS to freak out. If JAWS is able to read some emails but not others, then you should suspect message format as the culprit. I don’t know a way to work around this.

 

Second, sometimes JAWS just gets in a mode where it won’t read any emails. If it refuses to read even emails it has successfully read in the past, then this is the problem you’re encountering. I usually try a series of restarts until things are working again (e.g., close and re-open Outlook, if that doesn’t work close and restart JAWS, if that doesn’t work reboot the computer).

 

Here are a couple other issues I’ve noticed.

 

Sometimes you hit enter to read an email, but JAWS focus lands on the message subject instead of the message body. You have to tab around to find the message body. Frustrating.

 

And, from working with computers owned by other JAWS users, I’ve discovered that the Outlook configuration can contribute to usage problems. I find it best to turn off preview pane, set the messages to display as a list with a single line showing sender, subject, and date, and configuring each message to open in a new window. The setting to nest messages in a thread is personal preference – turning it on causes its own set of headaches, but turning it off might be intolerable.

 

Well I hope all this rambling helps.

   -Paul

 

 


Re: Word lists, pretty cool things!

john clayton
 

Hello Ashleigh,
Thank you for the detailed explanation, this answers all my questions on wordlists, but alas wordlists do not deal with my original question of finding multiple arguments during ctrl f, jaws find searches.
Suppose scripting is the only way so far to deal with this.
Thank you either way, learned something I did not know before,eh. :)

On 10 July 2017 at 18:16, Ashleigh Piccinino <apiccinino@...> wrote:

Hello,

     No, I’m not Smith, but I can give you a little tutorial on the word list. When you’re in a Microsoft Word document, or something else I presume and you want to bring up the word list, just hit insert CTRL and w. This’ll bring up the word list, and words are indexed by how many times they’ve been used. In other words, if you’ve used the word sociology a bunch of times in your document, it’ll show up with that number of uses behind it in the list. The words which’ve only been used once won’t have a number, but they’ll be near the bottom of the list. Here’s the neat thing though! If you search for a word—I’d do this by either trying to type a couple letters of it but searching the list by arrow works too--, you can press enter on the first time that word’s used. When your navigation quick keys are turned on (insert z), you can hit a plain w to go to the next instance of that word. However, IF YOU SEEK TO ARROW THROUGH this document while your quick-nav is running, you will have to turn it back on in order to find the next occurrence of your word. You cannot edit the document when this is on, so you’d have to turn it off beforehand. However, the word list gives you an idea of how many times you’ve used certain words/the whole documents worth of words common or not. If you need any more help, feel free to either send to apiccinino@... or write to the list. Yes, this goes for everyone here since, in my opinion, these aren’t really talked about. When you need extra help than I’ve provided, the JAWS help topics in training (JAWS window and alt h for the help) can assist you. Word lists are near the bottom of the books of training materials. If you’ve not updated this in a while, just press enter as if you were going to read and follow any instructions to download a new version of the book.

Thank you for reading, and I hope these tips help,

Ashleigh S. Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: john clayton
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question on jaws finder

 

Hello Smith,

I haven't heard about wordlists at all,besides of course when pressing w on a webpage. so could you explain what they are and how do they work?

or point me to a help file/dock that explains it?

Thank you!

 

On 9 July 2017 at 01:43, HH. Smith Jr. <teos1@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Just pulling a rabbit out of my hat, a word list just might be the only solution to your query; unless, someone has a better solution.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of nishantrana3@...
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 12:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question on jaws finder

 

Hello all,

 I am new to this list but not really new to using jaws. However recently I find myself using the jaws finder a lot of times,and had  a question so figured what place better than here to ask about it?

My question is,is there a way jaws can find multiple words or look for not just 1 string but more than 1?
I.E currently,if I do ctrl f when browsing a page,and type john for instance jaws will look for the occurrence of the word john on the page. now is there a way I could make it look for not only john but also  jane on the page at once?
So that when I press f3,it gets to me either of the words it finds first,press f3 again and it does the same?
If this can only be done through scripts and the like,could someone help me out as I am not at all good with jaws scripting and bairly know a thing about it.
Thanks.




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