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Thank You

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Thank you Barbara for  solving my problem.

 

Pastor Gil


Re: Opinions Sought on Surface Pro

Richard Turner
 

My wife just bought a Del Inspiron 15.6 inch laptop with the i5 7th generation processor with 8 GB Ram, 1 TB hard drive for $479 from Office Depot.
I couldn't convince her to get the one with the i7 processor and 12 GB of RAM for $600.
She doesn't use any accessibility software.
I have to say, her computer is quite fast. If I have to replace my laptop I'd go for the i7.
At work, we use the Del Latitude series which cost a bit more than double but are built for business use.
She mostly does word processing and Quicken and internet.

Richard

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 5:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opinions Sought on Surface Pro

Hi Les,

I find the price tag of most of the Microsoft Surface products (tablets or laptops) quite steep.
Is this Surface Pro you refer to a tablet or laptop? If it's a laptop you really might want to consider higher-end offerings from Asus or other manufacturers, not sure if you really gain anything by going with Microsoft other than spending more money.
My thought is that you probably want 16 Gb of RAM, 8 is not enough and 32 Gb for most people is more than you need.
As for SSD space, 1 Tb is of course better than 512 Gb, but unless you are saving massive amounts of music or photos and especially videos, 512 Gb is most likely going to do you. I bought an Asus Zenbook with a 512 Gb SSD and find it is plenty big enough for my approx. 26 or 28 Gb iTunes music library, most of the several thousand photos I have collected over the years and in my case I even have OneDrive set up to also sync to my Office 365 Business account and keep all my business documents on the laptop.
There are so many options now with online storage or external drives either USB or network attached that if you need several Tb of storage that would be the way to go.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opinions Sought on Surface Pro


What's the link for the new surface pro that you are talking about so we can check out the specs?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 7:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opinions Sought on Surface Pro

That sounds like a big difference. In August of 2015, I bought a Lenovo Windows 8 with a 1 TB, and the computer was $500. Of course, it took a whole lot of updating, but it's been a good one. So $500 for 500 gb, a dollar a gb, huh?
That sounds high to me. I got mine from Office Max if you want to check them out.

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Opinions Sought on Surface Pro

I am planning to purchase the new surface pro that was recently announced. My main concerns are to get enough RAM followed by the processor speed. As for the SSD Drive, I'm looking at a 512 GB unit or the 1 TB unit. I'm leaning away from the larger hard drive due to the $500 difference in price. It seems rather high to gain an additional 500 GB.
Am I missing something here which should be considered in my decision? Thanks.



Les


Jaws 18 And Table Mode

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Hi Barbara,

That solved the problem.

I turned off smart navigation.

 

Pastor Gil


Re: Opinions Sought on Surface Pro

 

Hi Les,

I find the price tag of most of the Microsoft Surface products (tablets or laptops) quite steep.
Is this Surface Pro you refer to a tablet or laptop? If it's a laptop you really might want to consider higher-end offerings from Asus or other manufacturers, not sure if you really gain anything by going with Microsoft other than spending more money.
My thought is that you probably want 16 Gb of RAM, 8 is not enough and 32 Gb for most people is more than you need.
As for SSD space, 1 Tb is of course better than 512 Gb, but unless you are saving massive amounts of music or photos and especially videos, 512 Gb is most likely going to do you. I bought an Asus Zenbook with a 512 Gb SSD and find it is plenty big enough for my approx. 26 or 28 Gb iTunes music library, most of the several thousand photos I have collected over the years and in my case I even have OneDrive set up to also sync to my Office 365 Business account and keep all my business documents on the laptop.
There are so many options now with online storage or external drives either USB or network attached that if you need several Tb of storage that would be the way to go.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opinions Sought on Surface Pro


What's the link for the new surface pro that you are talking about so we can check out the specs?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 7:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opinions Sought on Surface Pro

That sounds like a big difference. In August of 2015, I bought a Lenovo Windows 8 with a 1 TB, and the computer was $500. Of course, it took a whole lot of updating, but it's been a good one. So $500 for 500 gb, a dollar a gb, huh?
That sounds high to me. I got mine from Office Max if you want to check them out.

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Opinions Sought on Surface Pro

I am planning to purchase the new surface pro that was recently announced. My main concerns are to get enough RAM followed by the processor speed. As for the SSD Drive, I'm looking at a 512 GB unit or the 1 TB unit. I'm leaning away from the larger hard drive due to the $500 difference in price. It seems rather high to gain an additional 500 GB.
Am I missing something here which should be considered in my decision? Thanks.



Les


Re: Jaws 18 And Table Mode

Tom Behler
 

I’ve seen this occasionally in e-mails via Outlook 2016, and am wondering the same thing.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 11:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 18 And Table Mode

 

Had to do a repair on Jaws and now all the web sites are in tables.

How do I get Jaws out of table mode?

 

Pastor Gil


Re: Keystrokes not getting recorded correctly

david
 

Hello,
Try control panel,
Region link,
Now, go to home location,
Make the change there.

Hope this helps.


Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keystrokes not getting recorded correctly

Thanks, Mike. Where can I go to figure out if this is the issue and
change the setting if need be?

Best,
Rahul

On 08/07/2017, Mike Ulrich <mulrich@centurylink.net> wrote:
It almost sounds like some setting for the keyboard set up is in German? Or
something like that?
Those two examples are of the German language?

I know this doesn't help and hopefully someone with more knowledge will
respond.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul
Bajaj
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Keystrokes not getting recorded correctly

Hi All,

I am using JAWS 16 with Windows 8.1. On a new laptop that I was recently
given at work, I have been facing the following problem.
When I press keys that represent symbols on the keyboard, JAWS speaks out a
completely different name for the key than the one I entered.
For instance, if I press shift plus apostrophe for the quotation mark, JAWS
will read that as 'acute accent'.
Even if I press escape and get out of that edit field and try reading its
content, what JAWS speaks out is often different from what I typed.

While I am able to type what I want to after a couple of tries, this really
slows up the process. Further, JAWS also speaks out some letters with accent
or umlaut even when I simply type the letters.
What can I do to fix these issues? Thanks very much.

Best,
Rahul







Re: Keystrokes not getting recorded correctly

 

Hi Rahul,

Try the Region and Language Control Panel.

John


Re: Keystrokes not getting recorded correctly

Rahul Bajaj
 

Thanks, Mike. Where can I go to figure out if this is the issue and
change the setting if need be?

Best,
Rahul

On 08/07/2017, Mike Ulrich <mulrich@centurylink.net> wrote:
It almost sounds like some setting for the keyboard set up is in German? Or
something like that?
Those two examples are of the German language?

I know this doesn't help and hopefully someone with more knowledge will
respond.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul
Bajaj
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Keystrokes not getting recorded correctly

Hi All,

I am using JAWS 16 with Windows 8.1. On a new laptop that I was recently
given at work, I have been facing the following problem.
When I press keys that represent symbols on the keyboard, JAWS speaks out a
completely different name for the key than the one I entered.
For instance, if I press shift plus apostrophe for the quotation mark, JAWS
will read that as 'acute accent'.
Even if I press escape and get out of that edit field and try reading its
content, what JAWS speaks out is often different from what I typed.

While I am able to type what I want to after a couple of tries, this really
slows up the process. Further, JAWS also speaks out some letters with accent
or umlaut even when I simply type the letters.
What can I do to fix these issues? Thanks very much.

Best,
Rahul







Re: Keystrokes not getting recorded correctly

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

It almost sounds like some setting for the keyboard set up is in German? Or something like that?
Those two examples are of the German language?

I know this doesn't help and hopefully someone with more knowledge will respond.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Keystrokes not getting recorded correctly

Hi All,

I am using JAWS 16 with Windows 8.1. On a new laptop that I was recently given at work, I have been facing the following problem.
When I press keys that represent symbols on the keyboard, JAWS speaks out a completely different name for the key than the one I entered.
For instance, if I press shift plus apostrophe for the quotation mark, JAWS will read that as 'acute accent'.
Even if I press escape and get out of that edit field and try reading its content, what JAWS speaks out is often different from what I typed.

While I am able to type what I want to after a couple of tries, this really slows up the process. Further, JAWS also speaks out some letters with accent or umlaut even when I simply type the letters.
What can I do to fix these issues? Thanks very much.

Best,
Rahul


Keystrokes not getting recorded correctly

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi All,

I am using JAWS 16 with Windows 8.1. On a new laptop that I was
recently given at work, I have been facing the following problem.
When I press keys that represent symbols on the keyboard, JAWS speaks
out a completely different name for the key than the one I entered.
For instance, if I press shift plus apostrophe for the quotation mark,
JAWS will read that as 'acute accent'.
Even if I press escape and get out of that edit field and try reading
its content, what JAWS speaks out is often different from what I
typed.

While I am able to type what I want to after a couple of tries, this
really slows up the process. Further, JAWS also speaks out some
letters with accent or umlaut even when I simply type the letters.
What can I do to fix these issues? Thanks very much.

Best,
Rahul


question on jaws finder

john clayton
 

Hello all,

 I am new to this list but not really new to using jaws. However recently I find myself using the jaws finder a lot of times,and had  a question so figured what place better than here to ask about it?

My question is,is there a way jaws can find multiple words or look for not just 1 string but more than 1?
I.E currently,if I do ctrl f when browsing a page,and type john for instance jaws will look for the occurrence of the word john on the page. now is there a way I could make it look for not only john but also  jane on the page at once?
So that when I press f3,it gets to me either of the words it finds first,press f3 again and it does the same?
If this can only be done through scripts and the like,could someone help me out as I am not at all good with jaws scripting and bairly know a thing about it.
Thanks.


a tooltip question

mcLeod stinnett
 

--
from, mack I turned on jaws a minute ago and got this message A running program isn’t compatible with certain visual elements of Windows. Click here for more information. Tool tip I don't know what to do to get more information using win 7 64 bit. I had to turn window eyes back on to write the message, when I tried to use jaws, the keyboard would not write, just gave me verbage. I pressed insert spacebar, but that did not take me out of whatever mode I was in that made the keyboard unusable.


Jaws 18 And Table Mode

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

There are 2 web sites in particular.

Game day audio and weatherunderground.com.

Pastor Gil


Re: Jaws 18 And Table Mode

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

I have never had that happen. I dont think it is an option. You may have to run /type repair again. Or do a freash install useing narrator.

On 7/7/2017 8:24 PM, Pastor Gil Pries wrote:

Had to do a repair on Jaws and now all the web sites are in tables.

How do I get Jaws out of table mode?

 

Pastor Gil



Jaws 18 And Table Mode

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Had to do a repair on Jaws and now all the web sites are in tables.

How do I get Jaws out of table mode?

 

Pastor Gil


Re: I am actually on the web to send this

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Go to your g-mail account and then settings. find the two factor autherization and disable it. I did this and it fixed my issue.

On 7/7/2017 3:52 PM, Shannon wrote:
Funny just to day a coworker had issue with Gmail and Thunderbird. The answer ended up being to download and update the newest Thunderbird using the Gmail is now using two-step verification. You have to change the protocol set into the one that includes two. Zero.
The version was 52 point something I can't remember exactly. That's the latest one I think. My coworker went from 45 to 52. I hope that helps.



Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Jenni Kent <jennipalmer@...> wrote:

Hi guys I decided to tinker with my gmail well it started to use oauth and that made thunderbird mad. I ended up uninstalling thunderbird and trying windows mail and it throws sync errors all the time now. all and all windows ten mail is accessible withy jaws if you like pressing a button for everything and i can't change anything to normal password the manage settings dialog has changed to where i cant change most of the account settings. thunderbird won't let me do a thing i reinstalled hooked up all five accounts and it just sat there so any ideas are are wonderful i need to write a resume and have no idea how and imap would be wonderful i have my iphone but i need computer access.



Re: wizmo

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

You are talking about a laptop? on a pc just turn off the monitor...:)
Well before win 10 I just told my laptop to connect to a projector. It didnt matter If you had a projector it would turn off the display on the laptop. But another user with a PC said this didnt work in win 10 but no feedback from a laptop user yet. I am not running a win 10 laptop right now so I cant test it.

On 7/7/2017 2:35 PM, Jonas Voll wrote:

Hey guys!

I am a jaws screen reader user, I am blind and I just wanted to know if wizmo can do the following!

I am looking to turn off my computer screen, so no one can see what I am doing on my computer.

But I still want to use the key board or mouse.

Can I configure wizmo to turn off the screen and still have the computer screen off if I use the key board or mouse?

Thanks!!

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


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Dragon dictate update?

David & his pack of dogs
 

What is the update to Dragon Naturally speaking and Zoom tech?  My sister has a windows 7 computer and refuses to update it because she doesn’t want to loose the programs mentioned above.    


Re: JAWS Not Reading Outlook Messages

Jason White
 

When I press enter in the list of messages, I'm taken to the body of the
message and I can use arrow keys to read and navigate through the text.
However, I'm running Outlook 2016.

Is there a chance you could try with a more recent version of Outlook? If
not, it's probably a question for VFO Technical Support.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nancy B.
Gibson
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 5:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Not Reading Outlook Messages


Hi List,

I'm relatively new to JAWS after using Window-Eyes for years. I'm using the
latest Jaws 18 on a Windows 7 system running Outlook 2007.

When I press enter on the email message, JAWS automatically reads the
sender, subject etc. but then stops and never reads the message. The
"automatically read message" box is checked in settings.

The thing is that it won't read even with the arrow keys. It stays silent.
The "read line" command just says "blank" and the dedicated arrow keys and
the numpad arrow keys do/say nothing.

If I switch to the JAWS cursor, I first hear the subject then what must be a
menu because it says outlook adins, find etc. and if I keep going I hear all
the message headers and finally the message. But as soon as I switch back
to the PC cursor, I get nothing.

BTW - it still works correctly with Window-Eyes. I didn't try NVDA.

Any help would be appreciated.

Nancy


JAWS Not Reading Outlook Messages

Nancy B. Gibson
 

Hi List,

I'm relatively new to JAWS after using Window-Eyes for years. I'm using the latest Jaws 18 on a Windows 7 system running Outlook 2007.

When I press enter on the email message, JAWS automatically reads the sender, subject etc. but then stops and never reads the message. The "automatically read message" box is checked in settings.

The thing is that it won't read even with the arrow keys. It stays silent. The "read line" command just says "blank" and the dedicated arrow keys and the numpad arrow keys do/say nothing.

If I switch to the JAWS cursor, I first hear the subject then what must be a menu because it says outlook adins, find etc. and if I keep going I hear all the message headers and finally the message. But as soon as I switch back to the PC cursor, I get nothing.

BTW - it still works correctly with Window-Eyes. I didn't try NVDA.

Any help would be appreciated.

Nancy