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antivirus program suites

p tusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi,

 

It was  suggested one try MSE or  Windows Defender.

 

I spent hours and hours trying out antivirus and actually got AVG to work for 10 weeks though it took countless hours of work.

 

Could some one  off list tell me between  MSE and Windows Defender which is easiest to use per the antivirus   and firewall functions?

 

Thank you so very much!

 

Have a fine day.

 

 

 


Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Tony
 

The technology exists to read the chip on a credit card in your pocket. It is easy to tap into WIFI on someone else's internet. The only thing stopping someone from cruising around looking for Bluetooth signals to tap into is the ease with which they can get into your computer without getting close to you. If people ever start locking down their internet, and trash cans, better the crooks will find another way to stay in business.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 11:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Someheadsets do have longer range, but nowadays usually are digital and once again it would not be very straight forward to intercept this and listen, but even if one could this would not give anybody access to your Facebook account or other accounts which would only be possible if they can somehow record what you type on your keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

My old Senhiser (that may be spelled wrong) will go from the ham shack to most or all of my upstairs. Anyone eavesdropping on that had better be either a devotee of WSM or a Reds fan. Otherwise, he'll be bored.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

And that's under optimal conditions, add walls and it should go down quite a lot.

On 6/23/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about it, a wireless keyboard works at a
distance of 40 or 50 feet at most so first of all somebody needs to be
relatively close and secondly they need some pretty sophisticated
equipment to not only intercept but also decode these signals.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

/Thanks, never realized this. Getting so much beyond a hard wire
connection seems vulnerable without a lot of consideration

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

if useing a wireless headset or keyboard they can access your computer
this way too by logging everything you say on the headset or what you
are typeing on the keyboard.
these two devices need to be a secured wireless keyboard and/or
headset to block them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws



You use the ip address 192.168.1.1



User id: admin

Password: password



Then you can change the wifi password

Hth







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





Net Gear ……



Laura







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





You need to tell us what routter you have





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: June 21, 2017 9:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wireless router password & Jaws





Hello,



Is it possible to change the password on my wireless router myself
using Jaws? …… If so, could someone please tell me how to do this?



Thanks,

Laura




















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: Will this new Microsoft speech dictation software work well with JAWS?

Onwardbob
 

Hi, which versions of MS Word does it work with?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Will this new Microsoft speech dictation software work well
with JAWS?

Sounds interesting. I tried one a while back from the same British outfit
that brought us the Thunder screen reader. It would read just about
anything, but navigation was awful. You just started at the beginning and
plowed straight through. Heaven help you if you had to stop and close the
reader. Forget trying to get back where you were.



Ted



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Will this new Microsoft speech dictation software work well
with JAWS?



I am more interested in this: Sumatra PDF
<http://r.zdbb.net/u/26ia?or=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcmag.com%2Farticle2%2F0%2C281
7%2C2487049%2C00.asp>

SumatraPDF is well-known as probably the simplest, fastest PDF reader
available for Windows. It's small so it loads things fast, and can be run
from a USB drive. But it's more than PDFs. It also reads comic book files
(in CBZ and CBR formats) and ebooks (ePub and Mobi files), among other
things.
On 6/22/2017 2:53 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Tim,



They don't just talk about 1 piece of software / program, they
discuss many programs for doing different things, & rate them.

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.
In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim Ford <mailto:ttford@gmail.com>

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 2:37 PM

Subject: Will this new Microsoft speech dictation software work well
with JAWS?



Hi All,



In today's Tech Tidbits email, there is a listing as follows:




According to PC Magazine, this is "The Best Free Software of 2017":


http://bit.ly/2sYnwUy <http://bit.ly/2sYnwUy%20>



Does anyone have any feedback on whether this new product is indeed
accessible?



Tim Ford


Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Brian said, "As in you should be able to see them, intercepting," & since many of us can't see, maybe we should be able to hear / smell them!  LOL  LOL 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Virtually all wireless headsets and keyboards use either Bluetooth or other very short range wireless protocols.  I would suggest that anyone who's worried about what the original poster is actually take the time to educate themselves about Bluetooth or the short-range wireless used by these devices.

The vulnerability claimed simply does not exist in practice and unless someone were able to get very close, as in you should be able to see them, intercepting the communications between these devices and the computer is not a practical possibility.

And, yes, I know this whole topic is off topic for the group but it's long overdue for an injection of fact.

--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.413


If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker


Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

 

Virtually all wireless headsets and keyboards use either Bluetooth or other very short range wireless protocols.  I would suggest that anyone who's worried about what the original poster is actually take the time to educate themselves about Bluetooth or the short-range wireless used by these devices.

The vulnerability claimed simply does not exist in practice and unless someone were able to get very close, as in you should be able to see them, intercepting the communications between these devices and the computer is not a practical possibility.

And, yes, I know this whole topic is off topic for the group but it's long overdue for an injection of fact.

--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.413

 
If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker


Re: Jaws settings backup file

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Make sure you have your friend make a backup copy of their own settings first!
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws settings backup file

No, it's not tied to you but it maybe of limited value because your settings may include settings for programs which your friend doesn't have, it may include settings for websites he or she doesn't go to and it could contain settings specific to your system which may not apply such as dictionary definitions, custom highlight assignments and so on. But you can try it, probably it won't hurt, of course your friend would also have to like your selections for the voices including pitch, speed and all that. If you want to do it and you are both using Jaws 18 the best way to do this would be for you to go to the Jaws menu > Utilities > Import/Export and choose Export. You then send this file to your friend and they would go to the same place and choose "Import", browse to where they saved the file and import it.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws settings backup file

If I wanted to help another person set up their copy of Jaws can I simply give them a copy of my Jaws settings backup file or is it tied to my copy with such things as my serial number etc?
Thanks







Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Luis Difut
 

Off Jaws topic a bit eh?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

No one wants to hack our pc or our facebook... If we were rich and
famous or had a high security job maybe. Otherwise no one is interested
in hacking you or me... It just isnt worth the work involved. People
need to stop over hyping hacking it is not an issue for the average user
that uses common sensse while on the net. Sure a sniper could shoot me
as I walk out my door. but do we worry about that constantly?
On 6/23/2017 10:14 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:
There are capture programs to do that very thing, and send it to a remote location. That's a pretty specific hack, though. If that's what's happening, it's not a rank stranger. It occurs to me as I write this that we're straying far from the strait and narrow here.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Someheadsets do have longer range, but nowadays usually are digital and once again it would not be very straight forward to intercept this and listen, but even if one could this would not give anybody access to your Facebook account or other accounts which would only be possible if they can somehow record what you type on your keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

My old Senhiser (that may be spelled wrong) will go from the ham shack to most or all of my upstairs. Anyone eavesdropping on that had better be either a devotee of WSM or a Reds fan. Otherwise, he'll be bored.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

And that's under optimal conditions, add walls and it should go down quite a lot.

On 6/23/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about it, a wireless keyboard works at a
distance of 40 or 50 feet at most so first of all somebody needs to be
relatively close and secondly they need some pretty sophisticated
equipment to not only intercept but also decode these signals.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

/Thanks, never realized this. Getting so much beyond a hard wire
connection seems vulnerable without a lot of consideration

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

if useing a wireless headset or keyboard they can access your computer
this way too by logging everything you say on the headset or what you
are typeing on the keyboard.
these two devices need to be a secured wireless keyboard and/or
headset to block them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws



You use the ip address 192.168.1.1



User id: admin

Password: password



Then you can change the wifi password

Hth







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





Net Gear ……



Laura







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





You need to tell us what routter you have





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: June 21, 2017 9:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wireless router password & Jaws





Hello,



Is it possible to change the password on my wireless router myself
using Jaws? …… If so, could someone please tell me how to do this?



Thanks,

Laura



















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com












Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I agree partly, I have often received phone calls or had messages pop up on some websites where I was asked to call a certain number because a virus was on my computer. The phone calls usually claim to be from Microsoft and that my computer has a virus and I need to let them connect so they can fix it. Most of us hopefully are tech savvy enough not to do this, but many people especially older people who have very little technical knowledge are vulnerable and in that case it is not true that nobody wants to hack you or me.
My Uncle in Germany who is a very intelligent person and who was a top level management person at Daimler is now in his mid 80's, he fell for one of these calls and next thing he knew the guy on the phone told him that he had locked down his computer and in order for him to return it to my Uncle my Uncle had to wire him 300 Euros. These ransomware attacks are extremely worrisome and while they do target universities, hospitals and what have you, many of them do also target just you and me and the average Joe. Many people would pay a few hundred Dollars in order to get access to their computer again, if the hackers keep the demands reasonable enough it's something most people will pay. Most hackers also will actually return control and remove whatever they installed because they know that if the word gets around that this is not so nobody will pay them. If your child is kidnapped and you are requested to pay a ransom you can afford and know with certainty that your child will be returned unharmed what do you do? You pay it of course. If you are almost 100% certain that your child will be killed anyways you might want to think twice and try other options like getting the police involved or whatever.
I don't think we need to be paranoid about this, but just to say nobody would possibly target you is also not a good position to take. And don't assume you are smarter than the hackers, these ransomware attacks can be extremely sophisticated and very smart people have and are falling for them, you are not immune.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

I agree.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

No one wants to hack our pc or our facebook... If we were rich and famous or had a high security job maybe. Otherwise no one is interested in hacking you or me... It just isnt worth the work involved. People need to stop over hyping hacking it is not an issue for the average user that uses common sensse while on the net. Sure a sniper could shoot me as I walk out my door. but do we worry about that constantly?
On 6/23/2017 10:14 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:
There are capture programs to do that very thing, and send it to a remote location. That's a pretty specific hack, though. If that's what's happening, it's not a rank stranger. It occurs to me as I write this that we're straying far from the strait and narrow here.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Someheadsets do have longer range, but nowadays usually are digital and once again it would not be very straight forward to intercept this and listen, but even if one could this would not give anybody access to your Facebook account or other accounts which would only be possible if they can somehow record what you type on your keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

My old Senhiser (that may be spelled wrong) will go from the ham shack to most or all of my upstairs. Anyone eavesdropping on that had better be either a devotee of WSM or a Reds fan. Otherwise, he'll be bored.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

And that's under optimal conditions, add walls and it should go down quite a lot.

On 6/23/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about it, a wireless keyboard works at a
distance of 40 or 50 feet at most so first of all somebody needs to
be relatively close and secondly they need some pretty sophisticated
equipment to not only intercept but also decode these signals.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

/Thanks, never realized this. Getting so much beyond a hard wire
connection seems vulnerable without a lot of consideration

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

if useing a wireless headset or keyboard they can access your
computer this way too by logging everything you say on the headset or
what you are typeing on the keyboard.
these two devices need to be a secured wireless keyboard and/or
headset to block them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws



You use the ip address 192.168.1.1



User id: admin

Password: password



Then you can change the wifi password

Hth







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





Net Gear ……



Laura







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





You need to tell us what routter you have





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: June 21, 2017 9:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wireless router password & Jaws





Hello,



Is it possible to change the password on my wireless router myself
using Jaws? …… If so, could someone please tell me how to do this?



Thanks,

Laura



















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com












you might have root kit malware.

netbat66
 

they could still have some un detectable malware. like a root kit that will log all your keystrokes, like passwords to anything you log on to to the hacker without your knowlege.
some root kits are not detected by anti virus programs because they can hide themselves in the video card where most antivirus programs do not scan.
the only way to be sure they are gone is to reformat the drive and reinstall windows.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Someheadsets do have longer range, but nowadays usually are digital and once again it would not be very straight forward to intercept this and listen, but even if one could this would not give anybody access to your Facebook account or other accounts which would only be possible if they can somehow record what you type on your keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

My old Senhiser (that may be spelled wrong) will go from the ham shack to most or all of my upstairs. Anyone eavesdropping on that had better be either a devotee of WSM or a Reds fan. Otherwise, he'll be bored.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

And that's under optimal conditions, add walls and it should go down quite a lot.

On 6/23/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about it, a wireless keyboard works at a
distance of 40 or 50 feet at most so first of all somebody needs to be
relatively close and secondly they need some pretty sophisticated
equipment to not only intercept but also decode these signals.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

/Thanks, never realized this. Getting so much beyond a hard wire
connection seems vulnerable without a lot of consideration

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

if useing a wireless headset or keyboard they can access your computer
this way too by logging everything you say on the headset or what you
are typeing on the keyboard.
these two devices need to be a secured wireless keyboard and/or
headset to block them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws



You use the ip address 192.168.1.1



User id: admin

Password: password



Then you can change the wifi password

Hth







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





Net Gear ……



Laura







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





You need to tell us what routter you have





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: June 21, 2017 9:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wireless router password & Jaws





Hello,



Is it possible to change the password on my wireless router myself
using Jaws? …… If so, could someone please tell me how to do this?



Thanks,

Laura




















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: Opening Outlook attachments

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I thought that was a sequential thing--January February, Etc.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Hicks
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

Yes, that is hoe it used to work for me on Excel 2007 at home and work.  At home I have Excel 2016 and here at work I have Excel 2013.  Auto fill does not work on either version of Excel now.

 

Here at work on Excel 2013 I have a column with the words “office” or “lunch” in it.  Even though lunch repeats 10 times and office repeats 20 times, it doesn’t auto fill.  I Googled the steps to enxure that auto fill is turned on, but no dope?   I must be overlooking something, but I cannot find it.  Crap!  Auto fill is on by default as I remember it.

 

Thanks for trying.

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

For me autofill works regardlss of how many words there are. The only time where I have to type more before it kicks in is if two separate phrases start the same way. Here are some examples:

 

If I type “Scotia Bank Visa” once and then start typing it again I most likely only have to type “Sc” before the autofill kicks in.

If I now want to type “Scotia Bank Line of Credit”, I will get the autofill for “Scotia Bank Visa” while I type “Scotia Bank”, only after I press the space bar and type the “L” for the word “Line” will the autofill end and I can finish typing “Line of Credit”.

Now having typed both phrases, autofill will not kick in when I type “Scotia Bank”, it will only kick in and fill the rest of the words if I type “V” or “L” after Scotia Bank and the spacebar. In the case of “Scotia Bank Visa” it will only complete the “isa” of “Visa”, in the case of “Line of Credit” it will autofill “ine of credit” after I type the “L”.

I hope this makes sense.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Hicks
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

Tnx.  What about having 2 or 3 different words in the same column?  I am trying for auto fill whenever I duplicate the same word in the same column.

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

Hi,

 

Can’t you just press Control + S in a protected document to unprotect it? You will be prompted to allow saving or something like that. Should work in Excel too, I think.

 

If you want to fill cells with the same info, in your example, type “Lunch” in the first cell. Then, press Control + G to open the “Go to Cell” dialogue box and type in the last cell you want. Press Shift + enter and that range will be selected. If the cells you wish to fill with “lunch” are below the cell you are in, press Control + D to fill down. If the cells are to the right, press Control + R to fill right.

 

HTH

 

Russell

On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:09 PM, Bob Hicks <bob@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Sieghard, I’ll try that.  

 

I know how            to get Word 2016 documents out of protectedview, but how do you get Excel 2016 documents out of protected view?  The same set of key strokes doesn’t work for Excel.

 

Also, how do you get Excel 2016 to auto fill?  I checked the settings and they all seem to be in the correct position.  I do my time sheet in Excel and there are many words duplicated and it is a pain typing “lunch” 10 times.

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

If you use Shift+F10 and select “Open” do Excel attachments still not open in Excel?

I think I did also have this issue at one point, but only if I pressed enter on the attachment. I unfortunately can’t remember what I did or if I did anything. On my current laptop Excel attachments do open in Excel if I press enter on them. You might want to try Microsoft Accessibility since this is something where I think they could probably help you.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Hicks
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 6:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

I can find Outlook 2016 attachments and I can open Word attachments, but for the life of me I cannot open Excel 2016 attachments.  What is the secret to opening Excel attachments?  tia

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

Thanks, Sieghard.

 

I was not aware of this alternate command for accessing Outlook e-mail attachments, and will give it a try here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

You can also try Jaws Key+A when you are in an open message, it usually put focus on the attachments list.

You can then use right arrow or left arrow to move around, Jaws says “Press Alt+Down arrow for more options” and either that or Shift+F10 will open the menu where you have things like “Open”, “Save As”, “Save All Attachments”, “Remove Attachment” etc.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 6:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

Danney:

 

I’m  using Outlook 2016, but you should be able to access all attachments by first doing a shift-tab, and then, once in the attachments list, use your right and left arrow keys to get the names of those attachments.

 

At least,  this has always worked for me.

 

Am using  Jaws 18 here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Yates, Danney
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 4:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Opening Outlook attachments

 

Using JAWS 18 and Outlook 2013.  When I tab over to see attachments, can rarely gat JAWS to read me the titles, might read the first one or two, but not those remaining.  How can I get a display of the attachments?

Thanks forany help,

Danney

 

 

Roosevelt Warm Springs

Danney Yates, M.Ed, CRC

Director of Residential and Campus Life

Residential and Campus Life

Office: (706) 655-5129  Fax: (706) 655-5118  Georgia Relay: 711

6135 Roosevelt Highway│P.O. Box 1000 │Warm Springs, GA 31830

www.gvs.ga.gov                                       

 

 

*Emails may now be sent to: Danney.Yates@...*

 

 


Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I agree.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

No one wants to hack our pc or our facebook... If we were rich and
famous or had a high security job maybe. Otherwise no one is interested
in hacking you or me... It just isnt worth the work involved. People
need to stop over hyping hacking it is not an issue for the average user
that uses common sensse while on the net. Sure a sniper could shoot me
as I walk out my door. but do we worry about that constantly?
On 6/23/2017 10:14 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:
There are capture programs to do that very thing, and send it to a remote location. That's a pretty specific hack, though. If that's what's happening, it's not a rank stranger. It occurs to me as I write this that we're straying far from the strait and narrow here.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Someheadsets do have longer range, but nowadays usually are digital and once again it would not be very straight forward to intercept this and listen, but even if one could this would not give anybody access to your Facebook account or other accounts which would only be possible if they can somehow record what you type on your keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

My old Senhiser (that may be spelled wrong) will go from the ham shack to most or all of my upstairs. Anyone eavesdropping on that had better be either a devotee of WSM or a Reds fan. Otherwise, he'll be bored.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

And that's under optimal conditions, add walls and it should go down quite a lot.

On 6/23/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about it, a wireless keyboard works at a
distance of 40 or 50 feet at most so first of all somebody needs to be
relatively close and secondly they need some pretty sophisticated
equipment to not only intercept but also decode these signals.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

/Thanks, never realized this. Getting so much beyond a hard wire
connection seems vulnerable without a lot of consideration

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

if useing a wireless headset or keyboard they can access your computer
this way too by logging everything you say on the headset or what you
are typeing on the keyboard.
these two devices need to be a secured wireless keyboard and/or
headset to block them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws



You use the ip address 192.168.1.1



User id: admin

Password: password



Then you can change the wifi password

Hth







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





Net Gear ……



Laura







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





You need to tell us what routter you have





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: June 21, 2017 9:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wireless router password & Jaws





Hello,



Is it possible to change the password on my wireless router myself
using Jaws? …… If so, could someone please tell me how to do this?



Thanks,

Laura



















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com












Re: Opening Outlook attachments

Bob Hicks
 

Yes, that is hoe it used to work for me on Excel 2007 at home and work.  At home I have Excel 2016 and here at work I have Excel 2013.  Auto fill does not work on either version of Excel now.

 

Here at work on Excel 2013 I have a column with the words “office” or “lunch” in it.  Even though lunch repeats 10 times and office repeats 20 times, it doesn’t auto fill.  I Googled the steps to enxure that auto fill is turned on, but no dope?   I must be overlooking something, but I cannot find it.  Crap!  Auto fill is on by default as I remember it.

 

Thanks for trying.

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

For me autofill works regardlss of how many words there are. The only time where I have to type more before it kicks in is if two separate phrases start the same way. Here are some examples:

 

If I type “Scotia Bank Visa” once and then start typing it again I most likely only have to type “Sc” before the autofill kicks in.

If I now want to type “Scotia Bank Line of Credit”, I will get the autofill for “Scotia Bank Visa” while I type “Scotia Bank”, only after I press the space bar and type the “L” for the word “Line” will the autofill end and I can finish typing “Line of Credit”.

Now having typed both phrases, autofill will not kick in when I type “Scotia Bank”, it will only kick in and fill the rest of the words if I type “V” or “L” after Scotia Bank and the spacebar. In the case of “Scotia Bank Visa” it will only complete the “isa” of “Visa”, in the case of “Line of Credit” it will autofill “ine of credit” after I type the “L”.

I hope this makes sense.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Hicks
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

Tnx.  What about having 2 or 3 different words in the same column?  I am trying for auto fill whenever I duplicate the same word in the same column.

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

Hi,

 

Can’t you just press Control + S in a protected document to unprotect it? You will be prompted to allow saving or something like that. Should work in Excel too, I think.

 

If you want to fill cells with the same info, in your example, type “Lunch” in the first cell. Then, press Control + G to open the “Go to Cell” dialogue box and type in the last cell you want. Press Shift + enter and that range will be selected. If the cells you wish to fill with “lunch” are below the cell you are in, press Control + D to fill down. If the cells are to the right, press Control + R to fill right.

 

HTH

 

Russell

On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:09 PM, Bob Hicks <bob@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Sieghard, I’ll try that.  

 

I know how            to get Word 2016 documents out of protectedview, but how do you get Excel 2016 documents out of protected view?  The same set of key strokes doesn’t work for Excel.

 

Also, how do you get Excel 2016 to auto fill?  I checked the settings and they all seem to be in the correct position.  I do my time sheet in Excel and there are many words duplicated and it is a pain typing “lunch” 10 times.

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

If you use Shift+F10 and select “Open” do Excel attachments still not open in Excel?

I think I did also have this issue at one point, but only if I pressed enter on the attachment. I unfortunately can’t remember what I did or if I did anything. On my current laptop Excel attachments do open in Excel if I press enter on them. You might want to try Microsoft Accessibility since this is something where I think they could probably help you.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Hicks
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 6:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

I can find Outlook 2016 attachments and I can open Word attachments, but for the life of me I cannot open Excel 2016 attachments.  What is the secret to opening Excel attachments?  tia

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

Thanks, Sieghard.

 

I was not aware of this alternate command for accessing Outlook e-mail attachments, and will give it a try here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

You can also try Jaws Key+A when you are in an open message, it usually put focus on the attachments list.

You can then use right arrow or left arrow to move around, Jaws says “Press Alt+Down arrow for more options” and either that or Shift+F10 will open the menu where you have things like “Open”, “Save As”, “Save All Attachments”, “Remove Attachment” etc.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 6:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening Outlook attachments

 

Danney:

 

I’m  using Outlook 2016, but you should be able to access all attachments by first doing a shift-tab, and then, once in the attachments list, use your right and left arrow keys to get the names of those attachments.

 

At least,  this has always worked for me.

 

Am using  Jaws 18 here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Yates, Danney
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 4:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Opening Outlook attachments

 

Using JAWS 18 and Outlook 2013.  When I tab over to see attachments, can rarely gat JAWS to read me the titles, might read the first one or two, but not those remaining.  How can I get a display of the attachments?

Thanks forany help,

Danney

 

 

Roosevelt Warm Springs

Danney Yates, M.Ed, CRC

Director of Residential and Campus Life

Residential and Campus Life

Office: (706) 655-5129  Fax: (706) 655-5118  Georgia Relay: 711

6135 Roosevelt Highway│P.O. Box 1000 │Warm Springs, GA 31830

www.gvs.ga.gov                                       

 

 

*Emails may now be sent to: Danney.Yates@...*

 

 


Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

No one wants to hack our pc or our facebook... If we were rich and famous or had a high security job maybe. Otherwise no one is interested in hacking you or me... It just isnt worth the work involved. People need to stop over hyping hacking it is not an issue for the average user that uses common sensse while on the net. Sure a sniper could shoot me as I walk out my door. but do we worry about that constantly?

On 6/23/2017 10:14 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:
There are capture programs to do that very thing, and send it to a remote location. That's a pretty specific hack, though. If that's what's happening, it's not a rank stranger. It occurs to me as I write this that we're straying far from the strait and narrow here.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Someheadsets do have longer range, but nowadays usually are digital and once again it would not be very straight forward to intercept this and listen, but even if one could this would not give anybody access to your Facebook account or other accounts which would only be possible if they can somehow record what you type on your keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

My old Senhiser (that may be spelled wrong) will go from the ham shack to most or all of my upstairs. Anyone eavesdropping on that had better be either a devotee of WSM or a Reds fan. Otherwise, he'll be bored.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

And that's under optimal conditions, add walls and it should go down quite a lot.

On 6/23/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about it, a wireless keyboard works at a
distance of 40 or 50 feet at most so first of all somebody needs to be
relatively close and secondly they need some pretty sophisticated
equipment to not only intercept but also decode these signals.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

/Thanks, never realized this. Getting so much beyond a hard wire
connection seems vulnerable without a lot of consideration

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

if useing a wireless headset or keyboard they can access your computer
this way too by logging everything you say on the headset or what you
are typeing on the keyboard.
these two devices need to be a secured wireless keyboard and/or
headset to block them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws



You use the ip address 192.168.1.1



User id: admin

Password: password



Then you can change the wifi password

Hth







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





Net Gear ……



Laura







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





You need to tell us what routter you have





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: June 21, 2017 9:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wireless router password & Jaws





Hello,



Is it possible to change the password on my wireless router myself
using Jaws? …… If so, could someone please tell me how to do this?



Thanks,

Laura



















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com











Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

There are capture programs to do that very thing, and send it to a remote location. That's a pretty specific hack, though. If that's what's happening, it's not a rank stranger. It occurs to me as I write this that we're straying far from the strait and narrow here.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Someheadsets do have longer range, but nowadays usually are digital and once again it would not be very straight forward to intercept this and listen, but even if one could this would not give anybody access to your Facebook account or other accounts which would only be possible if they can somehow record what you type on your keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

My old Senhiser (that may be spelled wrong) will go from the ham shack to most or all of my upstairs. Anyone eavesdropping on that had better be either a devotee of WSM or a Reds fan. Otherwise, he'll be bored.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

And that's under optimal conditions, add walls and it should go down quite a lot.

On 6/23/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about it, a wireless keyboard works at a
distance of 40 or 50 feet at most so first of all somebody needs to be
relatively close and secondly they need some pretty sophisticated
equipment to not only intercept but also decode these signals.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

/Thanks, never realized this. Getting so much beyond a hard wire
connection seems vulnerable without a lot of consideration

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

if useing a wireless headset or keyboard they can access your computer
this way too by logging everything you say on the headset or what you
are typeing on the keyboard.
these two devices need to be a secured wireless keyboard and/or
headset to block them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws



You use the ip address 192.168.1.1



User id: admin

Password: password



Then you can change the wifi password

Hth







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





Net Gear ……



Laura







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





You need to tell us what routter you have





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: June 21, 2017 9:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wireless router password & Jaws





Hello,



Is it possible to change the password on my wireless router myself
using Jaws? …… If so, could someone please tell me how to do this?



Thanks,

Laura




















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi Tony,

I am Not saying that the NSA or some sophisticated hacker can't do all sorts of things. But I wonder why they would want to go through all that trouble to gain access to my (or Laura's) Facebook account. If they can why not steel her banking password and transfer all her money to them. Now, as for 50 years ago, that would be in 1967, I mean, really? I know theoretically computers existed then, but there certainly was no bluetooth or much of anything wireless at that time and I'm sure a few security advances were made in terms of encryption and so on since then.
Somebody can also set up a van a few hundred feet from your house, point a highly sophisticated laser at your window and hear everything that is said in your house. If you want to avoid any of this you better don't go online or, for that matter own a computer.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

While I use both Bluetooth keyboards and audio devices, you have vastly understated the danger of information being intercepted with these devices.

There are Bluetooth and rf specs used by some devices that work over distances of more than 300 ft. With good equipment and a focusing antenna these signals can probably be received more than a mile from the devices.

I know of one instance the nave setup a van several hundred feet outside a secured computer center in Norfolk, VA and were able to duplicate data entered on keypunches inside the building,. They were able to determine with machine was used for what data. That was over 50 years ago.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 11:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, a wireless keyboard works at a distance of 40 or 50 feet at most so first of all somebody needs to be relatively close and secondly they need some pretty sophisticated equipment to not only intercept but also decode these signals.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

/Thanks, never realized this. Getting so much beyond a hard wire connection seems vulnerable without a lot of consideration

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

if useing a wireless headset or keyboard they can access your computer this way too by logging everything you say on the headset or what you are typeing on the keyboard.
these two devices need to be a secured wireless keyboard and/or headset to block them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws



You use the ip address 192.168.1.1



User id: admin

Password: password



Then you can change the wifi password

Hth







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





Net Gear ……



Laura







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





You need to tell us what routter you have





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: June 21, 2017 9:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wireless router password & Jaws





Hello,



Is it possible to change the password on my wireless router myself using
Jaws? …… If so, could someone please tell me how to do this?



Thanks,

Laura


Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Tony
 

While I use both Bluetooth keyboards and audio devices, you have vastly understated the danger of information being intercepted with these devices.

There are Bluetooth and rf specs used by some devices that work over distances of more than 300 ft. With good equipment and a focusing antenna these signals can probably be received more than a mile from the devices.

I know of one instance the nave setup a van several hundred feet outside a secured computer center in Norfolk, VA and were able to duplicate data entered on keypunches inside the building,. They were able to determine with machine was used for what data. That was over 50 years ago.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 11:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, a wireless keyboard works at a distance of 40 or 50 feet at most so first of all somebody needs to be relatively close and secondly they need some pretty sophisticated equipment to not only intercept but also decode these signals.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

/Thanks, never realized this. Getting so much beyond a hard wire connection seems vulnerable without a lot of consideration

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

if useing a wireless headset or keyboard they can access your computer this way too by logging everything you say on the headset or what you are typeing on the keyboard.
these two devices need to be a secured wireless keyboard and/or headset to block them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws



You use the ip address 192.168.1.1



User id: admin

Password: password



Then you can change the wifi password

Hth







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





Net Gear ……



Laura







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





You need to tell us what routter you have





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura
Richardson
Sent: June 21, 2017 9:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wireless router password & Jaws





Hello,



Is it possible to change the password on my wireless router myself using
Jaws? …… If so, could someone please tell me how to do this?



Thanks,

Laura


Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Someheadsets do have longer range, but nowadays usually are digital and once again it would not be very straight forward to intercept this and listen, but even if one could this would not give anybody access to your Facebook account or other accounts which would only be possible if they can somehow record what you type on your keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

My old Senhiser (that may be spelled wrong) will go from the ham shack to most or all of my upstairs. Anyone eavesdropping on that had better be either a devotee of WSM or a Reds fan. Otherwise, he'll be bored.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

And that's under optimal conditions, add walls and it should go down quite a lot.

On 6/23/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about it, a wireless keyboard works at a
distance of 40 or 50 feet at most so first of all somebody needs to be
relatively close and secondly they need some pretty sophisticated
equipment to not only intercept but also decode these signals.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

/Thanks, never realized this. Getting so much beyond a hard wire
connection seems vulnerable without a lot of consideration

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

if useing a wireless headset or keyboard they can access your computer
this way too by logging everything you say on the headset or what you
are typeing on the keyboard.
these two devices need to be a secured wireless keyboard and/or
headset to block them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws



You use the ip address 192.168.1.1



User id: admin

Password: password



Then you can change the wifi password

Hth







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





Net Gear ……



Laura







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





You need to tell us what routter you have





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Richardson
Sent: June 21, 2017 9:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wireless router password & Jaws





Hello,



Is it possible to change the password on my wireless router myself
using Jaws? …… If so, could someone please tell me how to do this?



Thanks,

Laura




















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: How accessible is Word Press for creating websites with JAWS?

Jim Portillo
 

Hi Steve,

 

Could you also please email me privately for the same reasons?  Thanks.

Portillo.jim@...

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How accessible is Word Press for creating websites with JAWS?

 

Hi Steve. Would you email me privately? I’d like to discuss wordpress with you. My email address is stepserve@...

 

Thanks,

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How accessible is Word Press for creating websites with JAWS?

 

Hi David,

 

I built my own web site at http://www.comproom.co.uk using Wordpress.

 

I also offer Wordpress training for those interested, and I am totally blind.

 

And yes, I have used JAWS and Window-Eyes and NVDA for web development.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: 12 June 2017 04:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How accessible is Word Press for creating websites with JAWS?

 

I’m curious to know the answer too.  A sighted person, computer tech, told me when we were working on my website last Thursday, “David WordPress is not that accessible for working on a website.  Posting, yes.  But building a website, No.  She is learning a lot working with a screen reader.  She was the one who said what is on the screen for the sighted is not always what your screen reader is reading out to you.  Last week, she had to turn off JAWS because as it was reading out the screen, the curser was moving along like the proverbial ball.  She was not able to take over even though we were using Team viewer, screen sharing. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Negoslav Sabev
Sent: June 11, 2017 8:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How accessible is Word Press for creating websites with JAWS?

 

Search Google for Wordpress for bad eyes. It's a book from the blindness perspective. It costs about $10 but you won't regret paying.

Negoslav Sabev

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 6, 2017, at 10:12 PM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

Hi!

 

Is Word Press accessible with JAWS for creating websites?  Where is a good place to start for a beginning blind webmaster?  Are there any tips and tricks?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

My old Senhiser (that may be spelled wrong) will go from the ham shack to most or all of my upstairs. Anyone eavesdropping on that had better be either a devotee of WSM or a Reds fan. Otherwise, he'll be bored.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

And that's under optimal conditions, add walls and it should go down
quite a lot.

On 6/23/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about it, a wireless keyboard works at a distance
of 40 or 50 feet at most so first of all somebody needs to be relatively
close and secondly they need some pretty sophisticated equipment to not only
intercept but also decode these signals.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

/Thanks, never realized this. Getting so much beyond a hard wire connection
seems vulnerable without a lot of consideration

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: wireless headsets and keyboards are at risk too.

if useing a wireless headset or keyboard they can access your computer this
way too by logging everything you say on the headset or what you are typeing
on the keyboard.
these two devices need to be a secured wireless keyboard and/or headset to
block them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws



You use the ip address 192.168.1.1



User id: admin

Password: password



Then you can change the wifi password

Hth







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura
Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





Net Gear ……



Laura







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wireless router password & Jaws





You need to tell us what routter you have





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura
Richardson
Sent: June 21, 2017 9:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wireless router password & Jaws





Hello,



Is it possible to change the password on my wireless router myself using
Jaws? …… If so, could someone please tell me how to do this?



Thanks,

Laura




















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: How accessible is Word Press for creating websites with JAWS?

Andre
 

Hi Steve. Would you email me privately? I’d like to discuss wordpress with you. My email address is stepserve@...

 

Thanks,

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How accessible is Word Press for creating websites with JAWS?

 

Hi David,

 

I built my own web site at http://www.comproom.co.uk using Wordpress.

 

I also offer Wordpress training for those interested, and I am totally blind.

 

And yes, I have used JAWS and Window-Eyes and NVDA for web development.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: 12 June 2017 04:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How accessible is Word Press for creating websites with JAWS?

 

I’m curious to know the answer too.  A sighted person, computer tech, told me when we were working on my website last Thursday, “David WordPress is not that accessible for working on a website.  Posting, yes.  But building a website, No.  She is learning a lot working with a screen reader.  She was the one who said what is on the screen for the sighted is not always what your screen reader is reading out to you.  Last week, she had to turn off JAWS because as it was reading out the screen, the curser was moving along like the proverbial ball.  She was not able to take over even though we were using Team viewer, screen sharing. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Negoslav Sabev
Sent: June 11, 2017 8:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How accessible is Word Press for creating websites with JAWS?

 

Search Google for Wordpress for bad eyes. It's a book from the blindness perspective. It costs about $10 but you won't regret paying.

Negoslav Sabev

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 6, 2017, at 10:12 PM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

Hi!

 

Is Word Press accessible with JAWS for creating websites?  Where is a good place to start for a beginning blind webmaster?  Are there any tips and tricks?

 

Thanks,

Richard