Don - Wrong. Both versions are the same price.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 07:45
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are
different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:

Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as
a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:

yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?

There are many fine programs for work or play. But, when you get right down to it, JAWS (or substitute any other reader) is the key to them all. Without these apps, the fanciest laptop or desktop is just a paperweight. Pioneers like David Holiday, Ron Hutchinson, and all those who have followed, allowed us to become part of the computer revolution. You bet your bottom dollar it's worth it to me.
Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
It can be a logistical nightmare, I know. But, I've seen those who have more money than they know what to do with and would drop $100 or more on dinner but, can't find the money for something like this. Or, spend money on junk food and say they have no money. I take no stand. However, my sibling falls into the latter category. The most offensive thing was when we offered to get toiletries for her at Costco because we were going there for our monthly shopping and toiletries are cheaper there. Naturally she would reimburse us. Her comment? "Why should I buy it, I can get ... to give it to me."
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: June 13, 2017 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
It's not that simple. How is the five dollars a month going to FVO, off a charge card, automatic withdrawal from a bank account (what bank account in some cases? Some get their Social Security or SSI on a credit card),from the mail. Then one has to remember to write a check monthly, address an envelope, put a stamp on it, or is FVO going to send a statement? There are too many logistics for that to work. It makes mathematical sense to put aside five dollars a month toward sending in the SMA, but for people on marginal incomes, there are too many other things that absorb that money, yes, even Star Bucks on occasion, maybe.
Best from,
Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
Smoking is an addiction and when you addicted to something nothing will get in the way of that, including Jaws. Smile. Having made that flippant remark, you are right, $5 per month is not much. Just give up one day of Starbucks coffee.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: June 13, 2017 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.
Regards,
Sieghard
----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
What do most major updates cost without an SMA?
On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:

yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
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containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
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Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?

Don - Wrong. Both versions are the same price.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 07:45
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are
different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.
On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:

Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:

yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?

Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:

yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?

Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics, processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:

yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?

yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?

There are some things Window Eyes will read but Jaws won’t. I am thinking of a YouTube converter.  Window Eyes would read the different formats you could convert the movie or music too, JAWS doesn’t read those formats out.  Neither does NVDA. So, JAWS is my main screen reader but, wen it doesn’t read out something, I close it and open up Window Eyes.  I also have NVDA on my computer as well as a third choice.  A JAWS user set up, the Ctr,alt as a shortcut. I want JAWS, I just hit ctr,altJ.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: June 13, 2017 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

 

Thanks.  I was migrated to Jaws from Window-eyes so I may end up selling my Jaws and sticking with NVDA anyway as that's what I'veen using for around 2 years.  Both my wife and I are unemployed so if I don't need to throw money at screen access, so much the better for me.

 

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 6:38 PM Dave... <dgcarlson@...> wrote:

More like seven or eight times per year. Not monthly

Dave
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 13, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

> On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
> yes, that is correct.
>
>
>
> Chris Grabowski
> Mystic Access
> Where the magic is in learning.
> https://www.MysticAccess.com
> Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
> actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
> tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
> eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
> containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
> downloads, and so much more.
>    Contact:
> Phone: (716) 543-3323  (Ext. 500)
> Twitter: MysticAccess
> Facebook: mysticaccessempower
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Don H
> Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Jaws updates
>
> Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
> and a major update once a year?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--

Sent from my iPhone using G-mail.

I guess this is a dumb question, but what does the latest name (VFO) stand for.

Ted

Ted Lisle, PH .D. medicaid Spec 3, (502)564-2574

yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics, processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:

yes, that is correct.



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?

yes, that is correct.



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?

Let me know if it works leaving the question mark in.

On Jun 13, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
<Pamela.A.Ekstrand.-ND@disney.com> wrote:

Thanks, Russell, I will try that. I had gotten the message "Bad request"
when I tried the manual method, but I had removed the question mark.
Thanks for that clarification.

Pam
________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Russell
Solowoniuk [rsolowoniuk@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help with using jaws on microsoft online package

Hi Pam,

I wasn’t able to find the Settings link either, but, by following the
below manual steps, it temporarily puts you in the light version. From
there you just need to look for an “Options” link, click on that, go to
Outlook versions, enter on that, and then check “Change to light version”
or something similar. You must then arrow up to the save button and enter
on it, log out and then the next time you log in, you should be in the
light view. Make sure you delete everything after the question mark (?) in
the URL, but not the question mark itself before you enter layout=light.
Good luck.

Manual method:
After signing in by whatever method (probably
outlook.yourinstitution.com<http://outlook.yourinstitution.com><http://outlook.yourinstitution.com>),
look at the address bar, it will probably start with something like the
following: https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?blahblahblah
Just go and delete the blahblahblah part, and put in layout=light, so the
new address would be https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?layout=light

Russell
On Jun 13, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
<Pamela.A.Ekstrand.-ND@disney.com<mailto:ND@disney.com>> wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to find the settings gear that is
referenced in these links?

I went back to using Internet Explorer 8 because the mail interface
changed so drastically and became too inefficient. It still works fine
there, but I would like to go to IE 11.

I am trying to change to the light interface using Firefox or Chrome in
order to test that, but I am not finding the settings.

Thanks for any help.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] on behalf of Russell
Solowoniuk [rsolowoniuk@gmail.com<mailto:rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Need help with using jaws on microsoft online package

Hi,

Here are the instructions.
If the following websites instructions don’t work by changing it in the
settings, then try the below directions:
Proper way, via settings:
https://msonlinehelpdesk.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205104708-Switch-Outlook-Web-App-to-use-the-light-weight-classic-look-for-lower-bandwidth-consumption-or-other-reasons

Another site:
https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=34411

Manual method:
After signing in by whatever method (probably
outlook.yourinstitution.com<http://outlook.yourinstitution.com>), look at
the address bar, it will probably start with something like the following:
https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?blahblahblah
Just go and delete the blahblahblah part, and put in layout=light, so the
new address would be https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?layout=light

HTH

Russell
On Jun 12, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Adekoya Rasak
<rasakadekoya@gmail.com<mailto:rasakadekoya@gmail.com>> wrote:

hello.
How do I change to the like version.
Please guide me on this.

On 12/06/2017, Russell Solowoniuk
<rsolowoniuk@gmail.com<mailto:rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

Yes, I can second the advice to switch to the Light version of Outlook
web
access. My workplace also just moved from Groupwise to Outlook last week,
and thankfully a friend had told me earlier about the Outlook Light
version.
It works great.

Good luck.

Russell
On Jun 12, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Jim Fettgather
<jimfettgather@gmail.com<mailto:jimfettgather@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Hello, I have found that by far, the most helpful and important option
to change is in Options, outlook version, and to use the lite mode.
Then, you are not presented with Tree Views which are highly difficult
to navigate, but a more typical interface, very similar to Gmail's
Basic HTML version, all check boxes and links are very clearly
labeled, and Outlook on the web in lite mode is very useable.
Thanks.



On 6/12/17, Adekoya Rasak
<rasakadekoya@gmail.com<mailto:rasakadekoya@gmail.com>> wrote:
hello All,

My office just switch to office 365 and I need to know how to access
my company email using microsoftonline.com<http://microsoftonline.com> to
access my email in the
situation when I am not at office. I login to the page and signed in
successfully but I have challenge navigating the web page.
I will be usinng the web app soon but not yet.
any help guys. any one with experience on this.

Regard.

--
Rasak Adekoya
|Public Awareness and Communications Manager
USAID Civil Society Project (SACE)

17, Euphrates Street, Maitama, Abuja

T: +2348034829045, +2348090359417
E: radekoya@kemonics.com<mailto:radekoya@kemonics.com>
Skype: Asiwaju.rasak29














--
Rasak Adekoya
|Public Awareness and Communications Manager
USAID Civil Society Project (SACE)

17, Euphrates Street, Maitama, Abuja

T: +2348034829045, +2348090359417
E: radekoya@kemonics.com<mailto:radekoya@kemonics.com>
Skype: Asiwaju.rasak29

Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics, processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:

yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?

Richard,
No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within a week of getting my JAWS serial number.
Best Regards From Ohio,
Vic
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....
I'd asked VFO for clarification.
Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?
Best Regards From Ohio,
Vic
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics, processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.
Best from,
Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.
Regards,
Sieghard
----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
What do most major updates cost without an SMA?
On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:

yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?

yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?