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Unable to disable speaking of punctuation and symbols

bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
 

I am new to V18 of Jaws.  What I am trying to do is turn off speaking of all punctuation and symbols when browsing web sites.  So far, I tried the following:

1.        Disabled punctuation under Options, Voice Adjustments.

2.       2.  In Settings Center, set numbers to be spoken as digits

3.       3.  In Settings Center, made sure Announce Special Symbols was unchecked.

4.       Made sure Default All Applications was selected prior to making these changes.  However, when using Firefox, Jaws is still announcing Beginning and ending of articles and regions.  Also, a colon is still announced when using Jaws-F12 to check the time.  I’m confused.

5.              

 

 


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Angel
 

The Stereo-toner could be used with ear buds. I don't know any way one could have turned off the noise the opticon made.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules


I remember the Stereo-toner, wanted one, because of the price difference in it and the Optacon. So, I got this demo tape from Hadley. My husband said, that I should have seen our dog's face, when the Stereo-toner made its noises.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

There was a companion device to the Opticon called the Stereo-toner. It worked on the same principle as did the Opticon. excepting it translated the printed text in to tones. Which would, in combination with other tones, decreasing and increasing in pitch to form an audio picture of the printed letter or number. One would take a series of lessons from the Hadley school for the Blind on cassette tapes. One would practice reading printed material thusly. Then one would go to the school itself for two weeks. To learn to properly use the device itself. I thought the Sterio-toner might be a viable alternative for me to use. As I have very limited use of my right hand. The Opticon cost, then, three thousand dollars. While the Stereo-toner cost one thousand dollars. I am glad, now, I didn't get the device. As it, like most devices which truly benefit us blind people, was discontinued shortly thereafter; and repair parts might not be so easily found. Not to mention, it was less popular than was the Opticon.

----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa Stott <mailto:mstott69@verizon.net>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules


I certainly do remember the days of optacons. I tried getting one myself, but by that time, they were no longer making them, and you couldn’t even get parts. That was about 28 years ago. LOL



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From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules



I agree with you, David, 1,000 percent. On one of my jobs, one of the doctors said that I worked in two languages, because I had Braille notes, took Braille short hand, but used my Optacon a lot more than I did Braille.



On that particular job, a requirement was that you had to make any corrections or modifications to reports. There was a blind guy that worked downstairs in Medical Records, and his wife had to do all of his. I worked up in Surgical Pathology. This was in the 70's, when we had multiple carbons, different colors. So, I had to keep those little slips that you use for the carbons and keep up with the colors. I had to carefully roll the typewriter to check with the Optacon about where to make the change. I could do them or would not have kept the job.



There is an Optacon Users List, sporatic traffic. A guy in Canada is trying to develop an Optacon that is more in line with today's technology.



I, for one, think that technology can be a sort of other god to some. For what the Optacon does, I think its technology is state of the art. The only improvement I could suggest would to be to see if the noise it makes could be reduced.



Best From,



Carolyn







-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:54 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules



Wow!



I still have my Optacon, and I read mail with it.



I read the computer screen with my Optacon,and it went very well. I had a job where I did just that, The Optacon allowed me to feel everything that was on the screen. Wow, that is so great! The Optacon was one of the best assistive technologies ever, in my apinion. It is sad that most blind people do not know what the Optacon is, but I used it to read all of my math and science textbooks, so I could get a degree in math. I could trace all calculus graphs, charts, feel how the equations were set up, and on and on. I could feel, under my finger, what a sighted person sees. That is still so exciting to me. OCR does not compare to the Optacon for small little things that you want to read like a tag on a package, a piece of mail, or read what is on a computer screen. I really wish that someone could bring it back, or a entire community would bring it back. I would be right there, fighting and doing all I could do to bring it back.



Have a great one, guys!



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From: Randy Barnett <mailto:randy@soundtique.net>

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:15 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules







I too started with a Comadore 64 but I culd still see back then. My first experience with Jaws was v3.7 and have been useing it ever since.

I thought my serial No was old being in the 40,000's. LOL

On 6/9/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Hicks wrote:



Oh my gosh, I still have my Opticon!







Have a great day!







Bob Hicks







From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:25 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules







I started out with a Commodore 64 using an OPTACON to read the screen in about 1983 or so. Hard to remember back that far







Richard











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:39 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules







I probably have most of you beat, my Jaws serial number is 1056. I first bought Jaws for DOS in 1989, I think it was version 1.1, when Windows 3.1 came out in 19992 I used it alongside DOS.



Jaws for Windows was actually first released in January 1995, it was JFW 1.0 with support for Windows 3.1/3.11 and Windows for Workgroups 3.1.



JFW 2.0 was released in 1996, not sure when, it had support for Windows 95 which was released in August of 1995. Back in those days there usually was not support for a new OS version at the time of release.



I am looking some of this up in a Wikipedia article, for some reason they skip JFW 3.0.



In between, in 1998, 1999 and 2000 we of course had the release of Windows 98, 98SE and Millennium.



Windows XP was first released on August 24, 2001



JFW 4.0 which came out in September 2001 and I am pretty sure it support Windows XP.



JFW 4.5 came out in August of 2002 and it was the first version which had quick nav keys for IE.



JFW 5.0 was October 2003 and then there was a longer gap as JFW 6.0 didn't come out until March 2005, it introduced the ILM licensing scheme.



JFW 7 was released later that same year (2005) and 7.1 is listed with a release date of June 2006.



Windows Vista was released in November of 2006 and I'm pretty sure JFW 8 which was released in November of 2006 had support for it as well as introducing Realspeak Solo voices. From here on it seems to go to the annual release schedule in late October/early November.



Other milestones:



Jaws Tandem was released with Jaws 10 in November 2008



Windows 7 was released in July of 2009 and JFW 11 came out in the fall with support for Windows 7 and it introduced Research It



In 2010 JFW 12 replaced the old configuration manager with the Settings Centre



Jaws 13 in 2011 introduced one of my favourite features, Convenient OCR.



JFW 14 in 2012 came with Windows 8 support and Flexible Web



JFW 15 in 2013 had Windows 8 touch screen support and introduced FS Reader 3.0



JFW 16 in 2014 introduced command search in Settings Centre and Convenient OCR which in V13 only applied to graphics on the screen was expanded to handle entire PDF documents



Windows 10 first was released on July 29, 2015 and an update to Jaws 16 from the previous fall had initial support for it.



JFW 17 in 2015 introduced smart navigation for tables and Liblouis, an open source braille translator



Finally JFW 18 in 2016 (last fall) introduced mouse echo, audio ducking and Settings import/export was reintroduced.







Here is a link to the Wikipedia article:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_(screen_reader) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_%28screen_reader%29>







Regards,



Sieghard







From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: training modules







I had an early demo version that was something like 0.76 with a serial in the 3000s.







I should have stock in the company since I have owned every version since DOS, either purchased or through paying for skipped updates.







Tony











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ronnie Hill

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:32 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: training modules







Well I can't remember which year I did stgarted with JAWS Version of 3.3!



I guess it was around 1998



I thought that the first JAWS version was started from 32 it amazing to know it started from version 3 but I'm not sure.



Cheers everyone.



Ronnie from London.



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From: Bob Hicks <mailto:bob@seeinghandassociation.com>



To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>



Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:37 PM



Subject: Re: training modules







Hard to believe I started on JAWS 3.1 isn’t it!







Have a great day!







Bob Hicks







From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfwgroups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:24 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: training modules







If you open the FS reader, you should be able to access tutorials from there by pressing control+J. There are links to tutorials. If they are not already downloaded and placed in the appropriate place, the program will do this for you. These are in Daisy format and you can use control+P to toggle play and pause.



This is a global key command, so as long as the reader is open, it takes presidence over other programs using that key command. This makes it very handy if you want to practice what you are reading in an open program. This information should be enough to get you started.



Carol



On 6/8/2017 2:46 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:



I downloaded my version of Jaws 18. How do I git the training modules into FS reader? tia







Have a great day!







Bob Hicks


Re: Connecting to the internet

Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
 

Ann,

Thanks - I have been able to get beyond the first two steps, but then do not
find all the terms you mention. Perhaps they're named something different on
my machine. I'll keep trying.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Connecting to the internet

Sounds like a possible problem with the JAWS script. Another way to
get to the connect item is to press Windows+b. This also puts you
into the system tray, although Windows often calls it something like
'notification chevron'. Arrow down to the internet item and press enter.
Then tab 4 or 5 times, past WiFi and airplane mode and such to the list of
available networks.

Good luck!
At 09:51 AM 6/10/2017, you wrote:
James,

Thanks for the response, but I need to checksome things with you.
When I follow your steps, I hear "unknown script..."

By the insert key I'm assuming you mean the long oblong key at the
bottom left of the numpad. Could F11 be a different number? I have
tried pressing them together and one at a time in quick succession, but
do not get the desired outcome. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 2:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Connecting to the internet

Press insert F11, arrow down to wireless connections are available if
there are some. Press enter. If you have windows 7, this should be
strait forward. If you have windows 10, this might be a little harder.
Make sure to go to connect to a wireless network, and choose it from
the list. If anyone has an easier approach to this, pleas jump in here.

Best:
James

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Marilyn Bland
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Connecting to the internet

Hello everyone,

Starting Monday next week I will be working from a different location
than usual for a number of days. This means that my laptop will not
automatically be connected to the internet.

Please tell me what JAWS keystrokes should I use to be able to get
internet connectivity and what should I hear JAWS saying?

Many Thanks.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas.










Re: Reading emails or articles?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Big difference - I've done the same thing, that's how I knew

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 2:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

Wait a minute, the numlock must be off? Carol, where would
I be without your wisdom? LOL. I generally leave the
numlock off most of the time but, I did check to see if it
was on. It wasn't.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: June 10, 2017 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

And, you know, that Num Lock has to be off for that to work.


Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

Have you tried using the insert key in the numpad and the
number 2 key in the numpad? Hold down insert, quickly press
num 2, and release both. The reading should begin and
continue.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

Try unloading and reloading JAWS. And BTW which Insert key
are you suing?
The one you need to use is in the numpad.

Another thought...are you using a laptop with the laptop
layout? If so, you need to be using the CapsLock key in
place of insert.

Lots of possibilities, here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: David & his pack of dogs
<mailto:myguidedogis@gmail.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 07:54
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?


Should, but, doesn't. I press both keys simultaneously then
release them and all it says is "down arrow" I know it
works, just don't know how to fix
my screw up.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: June 10, 2017 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?



That is the correct keystroke. Are you releasing the insert
key before pressing down arrow? That would be the problem
if you are, you have to be holding the insert key down when
you press the down arrow, then release them both and it
should read until the end or you stop it with the control
key.



HTH,

Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading emails or articles?



When I want JAWS to read the entire email or text, I press
the insert key then the down arrow. All it says is "down
arrow" How do I get it to read the affore mentioned items
without it saying just "down arrow"


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Melissa Stott
 

Oh yes… I do remember reformatting those disks.  Those were the days!

 

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From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

Remember when we had to format disks for the computers? JAWS was really in its infancy then.

 

Best from,

 

Carolyn

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 11:04 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I remember those days well. The smallest things can be the biggest problems, even now.

 

James

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 7:31 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

Exactly, that is how I remember it was for me. When I had my first computer at the uNiversity of Western Ontario in the fall of 1989 most things were still on 5.25 inch floppy isk, the ones which really were “floppy”. My PC had both a 5.25 and 3.5 inch drive, it had a “huge” 70 Mb hard drive where most of my fellow students still had 40 Mb drives or even 20 Mb drives. At some point my PC was upgraded to 1 Mb of RAM and I remember that it cost I think $700, of course a good PC back then could easily be $3,000. My first IBM Thinkpad (I think that was around 1993 or 1994 was $7,000 (all of this is Canadian Dollars).

 

I also had an HP Scanjet Plus scanner with Arkenstone and in 1989 when I got my first package it included a Eureka notetaker which had a braille keyboard and speech, but no braille display. It also had a 3.5 inch floppy drive and a built-in modem and it was a very compact device, maybe the size of a 13 inch laptop. It had a word processor, calculator incl. scientific, clock/calendar, reminders, I think a voice recorder as well and I remember it had a music composer. Anybody remember these, it was about $3,500 Canadian back then. Ah, the good old days, how many times did I go next door in my University dorm to ask a sighted friend why my computer wasn’t booting up only for him to walk in the room, remove the floppy disk I had forgotten to take out and all was good.

 

 

Regards,

 

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 6:14 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

Wow. I can't say I was ever told JFD and JFW had to operate as a package... and in fact a lot of places used ASAP before switching to JFW. But in my own personal experience, I had no issues using JFD to get me into Windows. Of course JFD stopped talking as soon as Windows loaded, but then... you weren't in DOS anymore.

 

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 05:45 am, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

 

                I never liked JFD. I was already a MicroTalk ASAP user, and found it to be a vastly superior product. For instance, my department was told that JFD and JFW must operate as a package. Well, guess what, JFD couldn't handle the handoff to Windows; Windows wouldn't talk. So I loaded my authorized copy of ASAP instead, and it took right off. So much for JFD.

               

                Moving to Windows was another matter, where JFW proved to be vastly superior to ASAW. I guess developing a Windows screen reader was too big a job for even the most talented individual programmer.

               

                Ted

               

                -----Original Message-----

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 7:03 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

               

                JAWS 2.x was for MS-DOS. It must have been 1992 when I bought it for use with

                the DECTALK-PC speech card that I had just obtained. I remember making a

                telephone call to the United States, very early in the morning Australian

                time, to find out whether JAWS supported the new DECTALK-PC synthesizers. It

                did, and, as I recall, Ted Henter himself was on the other end of the line to

                tell me about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: copy and paste

Richard Turner
 

That is a nice tip.  I did not know about the temporary place marker.

But, if you are using the shift+down-arrow, when you get to the last line, while holding the shift key, press the end key to make sure you get all of that last line.

Or, copy a line beyond where you wanted.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: copy and paste

 

You could use your place marker keystrokes. I would hope youd not forgotten about these, but I use them many times in life; love em! Anyway, go to where you’d like to start your copy, press windows CTRL and k. this’ll place a temporary placemarker there. Just arrow down your text until you want to stop copying. If you have a period or something else at the end of this, I’d right arrow past it—place markers pick this up too. Press your layered command of insert space and them m. “selecting from marked place to current position” should be heard with       JAWS. Just press CTRL c to copy it, and to make sure, you can press insert windows and x for confirmation the text is on the clipboard. Go into your word document and just paste with CTRL v. I know, it’s a lot. However, doing it is much faster than writing it out ha ha! Need anymore help, please feel free to e-mail me at apiccinino@.... However, you could also send to the list. Please make sure you’re using JAWS; commands I gave work here but not sure for NVDA. Never used that software.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

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From: Don H
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: copy and paste

 

I am finding that the copy and paste function in Jaws is somewhat
troublesome in that it does not copy all that you have selected.
Here is what I am doing and please tell me what I am doing wrong.
I go to a web page that has a recipe I wish to copy.  I go to the top of
where I want to start copying and while holding down the shift control
keys I arrow down the page until I have selected all I wish to copy.  I
then hit control C to copy the selected data to the clip board.  I then
open a word document and hit control v to paste the info.  It seems that
I am always missing the last few lines I am trying to copy.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

 


Re: copy and paste

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

You could use your place marker keystrokes. I would hope youd not forgotten about these, but I use them many times in life; love em! Anyway, go to where you’d like to start your copy, press windows CTRL and k. this’ll place a temporary placemarker there. Just arrow down your text until you want to stop copying. If you have a period or something else at the end of this, I’d right arrow past it—place markers pick this up too. Press your layered command of insert space and them m. “selecting from marked place to current position” should be heard with       JAWS. Just press CTRL c to copy it, and to make sure, you can press insert windows and x for confirmation the text is on the clipboard. Go into your word document and just paste with CTRL v. I know, it’s a lot. However, doing it is much faster than writing it out ha ha! Need anymore help, please feel free to e-mail me at apiccinino@.... However, you could also send to the list. Please make sure you’re using JAWS; commands I gave work here but not sure for NVDA. Never used that software.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: copy and paste

 

I am finding that the copy and paste function in Jaws is somewhat
troublesome in that it does not copy all that you have selected.
Here is what I am doing and please tell me what I am doing wrong.
I go to a web page that has a recipe I wish to copy.  I go to the top of
where I want to start copying and while holding down the shift control
keys I arrow down the page until I have selected all I wish to copy.  I
then hit control C to copy the selected data to the clip board.  I then
open a word document and hit control v to paste the info.  It seems that
I am always missing the last few lines I am trying to copy.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

 


Re: Reading emails or articles?

David & his pack of dogs
 

Wait a minute, the numlock must be off? Carol, where would I be without
your wisdom? LOL. I generally leave the numlock off most of the time but,
I did check to see if it was on. It wasn't.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: June 10, 2017 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

And, you know, that Num Lock has to be off for that to work.


Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn
Bland
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

Have you tried using the insert key in the numpad and the number 2 key in
the numpad? Hold down insert, quickly press num 2, and release both. The
reading should begin and continue.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

Try unloading and reloading JAWS. And BTW which Insert key are you suing?
The one you need to use is in the numpad.

Another thought...are you using a laptop with the laptop layout? If so, you
need to be using the CapsLock key in place of insert.

Lots of possibilities, here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: David & his pack of dogs
<mailto:myguidedogis@gmail.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 07:54
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?


Should, but, doesn't. I press both keys simultaneously then release them
and all it says is "down arrow" I know it works, just don't know how to fix
my screw up.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: June 10, 2017 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?



That is the correct keystroke. Are you releasing the insert key before
pressing down arrow? That would be the problem if you are, you have to be
holding the insert key down when you press the down arrow, then release them
both and it should read until the end or you stop it with the control key.



HTH,

Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David &
his pack of dogs
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading emails or articles?



When I want JAWS to read the entire email or text, I press the insert key
then the down arrow. All it says is "down arrow" How do I get it to read
the affore mentioned items without it saying just "down arrow"


Re: Reading emails or articles?

David & his pack of dogs
 

No. I have not tried it till I read your post. It worked. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn
Bland
Sent: June 10, 2017 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

Have you tried using the insert key in the numpad and the number 2 key in
the numpad? Hold down insert, quickly press num 2, and release both. The
reading should begin and continue.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

Try unloading and reloading JAWS. And BTW which Insert key are you suing?
The one you need to use is in the numpad.

Another thought...are you using a laptop with the laptop layout? If so, you
need to be using the CapsLock key in place of insert.

Lots of possibilities, here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: David & his pack of dogs <mailto:myguidedogis@gmail.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 07:54
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?


Should, but, doesn't. I press both keys simultaneously then release them
and all it says is "down arrow" I know it works, just don't know how to fix
my screw up.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: June 10, 2017 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?



That is the correct keystroke. Are you releasing the insert key before
pressing down arrow? That would be the problem if you are, you have to be
holding the insert key down when you press the down arrow, then release them
both and it should read until the end or you stop it with the control key.



HTH,

Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David &
his pack of dogs
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading emails or articles?



When I want JAWS to read the entire email or text, I press the insert key
then the down arrow. All it says is "down arrow" How do I get it to read
the affore mentioned items without it saying just "down arrow"


Re: installing apps from windows store, in creators update

Richard Turner
 

I’m running Windows 10, Creator Edition and the hotkey for Narrator is control+Windows+Enter.

Just Windows+Enter does nothing.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerry Ellis
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: installing apps from windows store, in creators update

 

Hi,

 

Try just windows and enter for Narrator. It has changed.

 

Also, try using narrator in the app store. It works better than JAWS the last time I tried.

 

 

 

Take care,

 

Gerry Ellis

 

If you don’t know where you’re going,

How will you know when you get there?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: installing apps from windows store, in creators update

 

Hi,

I’m happily running the creators update, as of a few minutes ago.

 

I had a few issues.

 

  1. Narrator never started, when I pressed control, windows, enter; and still won’t.
  2. Also, I’m haing trouble installing apps from the windows store.

What can I do?

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: installing apps from windows store, in creators update

Gerry Ellis <gerry.ellis@...>
 

Hi,

 

Try just windows and enter for Narrator. It has changed.

 

Also, try using narrator in the app store. It works better than JAWS the last time I tried.

 

 

 

Take care,

 

Gerry Ellis

 

If you don’t know where you’re going,

How will you know when you get there?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: installing apps from windows store, in creators update

 

Hi,

I’m happily running the creators update, as of a few minutes ago.

 

I had a few issues.

 

  1. Narrator never started, when I pressed control, windows, enter; and still won’t.
  2. Also, I’m haing trouble installing apps from the windows store.

What can I do?

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: installing apps from windows store, in creators update

Mario
 

I believe it's 5900, not 5960.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Pastor Gil Pries [mailto:gilp@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, Jun 10, 2017 1:20 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: installing apps from windows store, in creators update

I would contact Microsoft disabilities desk at 1800-936-5960 and they
can give you some help.

Something might have gone wrong with the installed update.

That’s what happened to me.

Pastor Gil



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: installing apps from windows store, in creators update



Hi,

I’m happily running the creators update, as of a few minutes ago.



I had a few issues.



1. Narrator never started, when I pressed control, windows, enter; and
still won’t.
2. Also, I’m haing trouble installing apps from the windows store.

What can I do?



Thanks,

Jessica





Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10


Re: installing apps from windows store, in creators update

Shai
 

Slight correction; that number is (800)936-5900.

On 6/10/17, Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I would contact Microsoft disabilities desk at 1800-936-5960 and they can
give you some help.

Something might have gone wrong with the installed update.

That’s what happened to me.

Pastor Gil



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: installing apps from windows store, in creators update



Hi,

I’m happily running the creators update, as of a few minutes ago.



I had a few issues.



1. Narrator never started, when I pressed control, windows, enter; and still
won’t.
2. Also, I’m haing trouble installing apps from the windows store.

What can I do?



Thanks,

Jessica





Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10






Re: installing apps from windows store, in creators update

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

I would contact Microsoft disabilities desk at 1800-936-5960 and they can give you some help.

Something might have gone wrong with the installed update.

That’s what happened to me.

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: installing apps from windows store, in creators update

 

Hi,

I’m happily running the creators update, as of a few minutes ago.

 

I had a few issues.

 

  1. Narrator never started, when I pressed control, windows, enter; and still won’t.
  2. Also, I’m haing trouble installing apps from the windows store.

What can I do?

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Reading emails or articles?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

And, you know, that Num Lock has to be off for that to work.


Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

Have you tried using the insert key in the numpad and the
number 2 key in the numpad? Hold down insert, quickly press
num 2, and release both. The reading should begin and
continue.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

Try unloading and reloading JAWS. And BTW which Insert key
are you suing?
The one you need to use is in the numpad.

Another thought...are you using a laptop with the laptop
layout? If so, you need to be using the CapsLock key in
place of insert.

Lots of possibilities, here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: David & his pack of dogs
<mailto:myguidedogis@gmail.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 07:54
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?


Should, but, doesn't. I press both keys simultaneously then
release them and all it says is "down arrow" I know it
works, just don't know how to fix
my screw up.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: June 10, 2017 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?



That is the correct keystroke. Are you releasing the insert
key before pressing down arrow? That would be the problem
if you are, you have to be holding the insert key down when
you press the down arrow, then release them both and it
should read until the end or you stop it with the control
key.



HTH,

Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading emails or articles?



When I want JAWS to read the entire email or text, I press
the insert key then the down arrow. All it says is "down
arrow" How do I get it to read the affore mentioned items
without it saying just "down arrow"


installing apps from windows store, in creators update

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,

I’m happily running the creators update, as of a few minutes ago.

 

I had a few issues.

 

  1. Narrator never started, when I pressed control, windows, enter; and still won’t.
  2. Also, I’m haing trouble installing apps from the windows store.

What can I do?

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Reading emails or articles?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I tried, and Insert Down Arrow will work from Num Pad or the
regular ones on the computer.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

Try unloading and reloading JAWS. And BTW which Insert key
are you suing? The one you need to use is in the numpad.

Another thought...are you using a laptop with the laptop
layout? If so, you need to be using the CapsLock key in
place of insert.

Lots of possibilities, here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: David & his pack of dogs
<mailto:myguidedogis@gmail.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 07:54
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?


Should, but, doesn't. I press both keys simultaneously then
release them and all it says is "down arrow" I know it
works, just don't know how to fix my screw up.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: June 10, 2017 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?



That is the correct keystroke. Are you releasing the insert
key before pressing down arrow? That would be the problem
if you are, you have to be holding the insert key down when
you press the down arrow, then release them both and it
should read until the end or you stop it with the control
key.



HTH,

Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of
dogs
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Reading emails or articles?



When I want JAWS to read the entire email or text, I press
the insert key then the down arrow. All it says is "down
arrow" How do I get it to read the affore mentioned items
without it saying just "down arrow"


: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Ronnie Hill
 

Hi all , I do have an old single speaker that I believe it was working with Appolo12 it was expensice device, just wondering is there any value to it today?
Thank you.
Ronnie.


Re: CSS and Website Mockups with JAWS

Walker, Michael E
 

Thanks! I thought sighted assistance was probably the best method of verification.


Re: Reading emails or articles?

Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
 

Have you tried using the insert key in the numpad and the number 2 key in
the numpad? Hold down insert, quickly press num 2, and release both. The
reading should begin and continue.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?

Try unloading and reloading JAWS. And BTW which Insert key are you suing?
The one you need to use is in the numpad.

Another thought...are you using a laptop with the laptop layout? If so, you
need to be using the CapsLock key in place of insert.

Lots of possibilities, here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: David & his pack of dogs <mailto:myguidedogis@gmail.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 07:54
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?


Should, but, doesn't. I press both keys simultaneously then release them
and all it says is "down arrow" I know it works, just don't know how to fix
my screw up.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: June 10, 2017 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading emails or articles?



That is the correct keystroke. Are you releasing the insert key before
pressing down arrow? That would be the problem if you are, you have to be
holding the insert key down when you press the down arrow, then release them
both and it should read until the end or you stop it with the control key.



HTH,

Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David &
his pack of dogs
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading emails or articles?



When I want JAWS to read the entire email or text, I press the insert key
then the down arrow. All it says is "down arrow" How do I get it to read
the affore mentioned items without it saying just "down arrow"