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Re: Connecting to the internet

Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
 

James,

Thanks for the response, but I need to checksome things with you. When I follow your steps, I hear "unknown script..."

By the insert key I'm assuming you mean the long oblong key at the bottom left of the numpad. Could F11 be a different number? I have tried pressing them together and one at a time in quick succession, but do not get the desired outcome. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 2:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Connecting to the internet

Press insert F11, arrow down to wireless connections are available if there are some. Press enter. If you have windows 7, this should be strait forward. If you have windows 10, this might be a little harder.
Make sure to go to connect to a wireless network, and choose it from the list. If anyone has an easier approach to this, pleas jump in here.

Best:
James

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Connecting to the internet

Hello everyone,

Starting Monday next week I will be working from a different location than usual for a number of days. This means that my laptop will not automatically be connected to the internet.

Please tell me what JAWS keystrokes should I use to be able to get internet connectivity and what should I hear JAWS saying?

Many Thanks.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas.


Re: Reading emails or articles?

Richard Turner
 

That is the correct keystroke.  Are you releasing the insert key before pressing down arrow?  That would be the problem if you are, you have to be holding the insert key down when you press the down arrow, then release them both and it should read until the end or you stop it with the control key.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading emails or articles?

 

When I want JAWS to read the entire email or text, I press the insert key then the down arrow.  All it says is “down arrow” How do I get it to read the affore mentioned items without it saying just “down arrow” 


Reading emails or articles?

David & his pack of dogs
 

When I want JAWS to read the entire email or text, I press the insert key then the down arrow.  All it says is “down arrow” How do I get it to read the affore mentioned items without it saying just “down arrow” 


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Mario
 

hey David, I heard Richard Oehm has some that he is selling and also
services them. I don't know if he still is selling them these days.

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, Jun 9, 2017 8:54 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Wow!
I still have my Optacon, and I read mail with it.
I read the computer screen with my Optacon,and it went very well. I had
a job where I did just that, The Optacon allowed me to feel everything
that was on the screen. Wow, that is so great! The Optacon was one of
the best assistive technologies ever, in my apinion. It is sad that most
blind people do not know what the Optacon is, but I used it to read all
of my math and science textbooks, so I could get a degree in math. I
could trace all calculus graphs, charts, feel how the equations were set
up, and on and on. I could feel, under my finger, what a sighted person
sees. That is still so exciting to me. OCR does not compare to the
Optacon for small little things that you want to read like a tag on a
package, a piece of mail, or read what is on a computer screen. I really
wish that someone could bring it back, or a entire community would bring
it back. I would be right there, fighting and doing all I could do to
bring it back.
Have a great one, guys!
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

I too started with a Comadore 64 but I culd still see back then. My
first experience with Jaws was v3.7 and have been useing it ever since.
I thought my serial No was old being in the 40,000's. LOL
On 6/9/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Hicks wrote:
Oh my gosh, I still have my Opticon!

Have a great day!

Bob Hicks

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

I started out with a Commodore 64 using an OPTACON to read the screen in
about 1983 or so. Hard to remember back that far.

Richard


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

I probably have most of you beat, my Jaws serial number is 1056. I first
bought Jaws for DOS in 1989, I think it was version 1.1, when Windows
3.1 came out in 19992 I used it alongside DOS.
Jaws for Windows was actually first released in January 1995, it was JFW
1.0 with support for Windows 3.1/3.11 and Windows for Workgroups 3.1.
JFW 2.0 was released in 1996, not sure when, it had support for Windows
95 which was released in August of 1995. Back in those days there
usually was not support for a new OS version at the time of release.
I am looking some of this up in a Wikipedia article, for some reason
they skip JFW 3.0.
In between, in 1998, 1999 and 2000 we of course had the release of
Windows 98, 98SE and Millennium.
Windows XP was first released on August 24, 2001
JFW 4.0 which came out in September 2001 and I am pretty sure it support
Windows XP.
JFW 4.5 came out in August of 2002 and it was the first version which
had quick nav keys for IE.
JFW 5.0 was October 2003 and then there was a longer gap as JFW 6.0
didn't come out until March 2005, it introduced the ILM licensing scheme.
JFW 7 was released later that same year (2005) and 7.1 is listed with a
release date of June 2006.
Windows Vista was released in November of 2006 and I'm pretty sure JFW 8
which was released in November of 2006 had support for it as well as
introducing Realspeak Solo voices. From here on it seems to go to the
annual release schedule in late October/early November.
Other milestones:
Jaws Tandem was released with Jaws 10 in November 2008
Windows 7 was released in July of 2009 and JFW 11 came out in the fall
with support for Windows 7 and it introduced Research It
In 2010 JFW 12 replaced the old configuration manager with the Settings
Centre
Jaws 13 in 2011 introduced one of my favourite features, Convenient OCR.
JFW 14 in 2012 came with Windows 8 support and Flexible Web
JFW 15 in 2013 had Windows 8 touch screen support and introduced FS
Reader 3.0
JFW 16 in 2014 introduced command search in Settings Centre and
Convenient OCR which in V13 only applied to graphics on the screen was
expanded to handle entire PDF documents
Windows 10 first was released on July 29, 2015 and an update to Jaws 16
from the previous fall had initial support for it.
JFW 17 in 2015 introduced smart navigation for tables and Liblouis, an
open source braille translator
Finally JFW 18 in 2016 (last fall) introduced mouse echo, audio ducking
and Settings import/export was reintroduced.

Here is a link to the Wikipedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_(screen_reader)

Regards,
Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: training modules

I had an early demo version that was something like 0.76 with a serial
in the 3000s.

I should have stock in the company since I have owned every version
since DOS, either purchased or through paying for skipped updates.

Tony


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ronnie
Hill
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: training modules

Well I can't remember which year I did stgarted with JAWS Version of 3.3!
I guess it was around 1998
I thought that the first JAWS version was started from 3.2 it amazing
to know it started from version 3 but I'm not sure.
Cheers everyone.
Ronnie from London.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Hicks
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: training modules

Hard to believe I started on JAWS 3.1 isn’t it!

Have a great day!

Bob Hicks

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol
Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: training modules

If you open the FS reader, you should be able to access tutorials from
there by pressing control+J. There are links to tutorials. If they are
not already downloaded and placed in the appropriate place, the program
will do this for you. These are in Daisy format and you can use
control+P to toggle play and pause.

This is a global key command, so as long as the reader is open, it takes
presidence over other programs using that key command. This makes it
very handy if you want to practice what you are reading in an open
program. This information should be enough to get you started.

Carol
On 6/8/2017 2:46 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:
I downloaded my version of Jaws 18. How do I git the training modules
into FS reader? tia

Have a great day!

Bob Hicks


Could you use text analysis?

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Hello,

     Try pressing your windows alt and I shortcut for the text analyzer. This, of course, assumes that you have that feature available. You’ll still have to press insert f though, I think when you come across a font change. This is the only way I know how to do this.

Ashleigh

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jodie Hoger
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 6:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do I read comments/notes in red?

 

Hi Folks,
My manager insists on making notes or comments in red on information and documents I receive through Outlook. I am using Win 10 and Office 16 with latest JAWS.
Can anyone give me some strategies to work out how to know when the font colour has changed to red so I can work out my Manager's notes/comments?
Thanks,
Jo


Sent from my iPhone

 


Speech/sound schemes in JAWS

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Hello,

     You could also use the sound scheme “say all with sound.” That’s the one I use, and it works very well. The JAWS voice I use stays the same, but sounds are played during link and heading appearances on web pages/e-mails.

Ashleigh

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it?

 

I agree, it's too annoying/confusing to hear different voices for
certain events, but there's no need to uninstall and reinstall.

to get JAWS to use one voice for everything, I'd suggest to check the
following:

press insert+j to get focus on the JAWS window.
press insert+numrow 6 to open the Settings Center.
press the down arrow key to Speech And Sounds Schemes and press the
right arrow key to open this category.
press the down arrow to the Active Speech and Sounds Scheme setting.
if the setting is not set to Classic, keep pressing the spacebar until
it is announced.
press the tab to the ok button and press the spacebar.


sorry it took a while for my reply. I haven't done this in a while
because I haven't experienced this particular problem, I had to brush up
on how to do it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Jun 7, 2017 8:22 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it?

Mario,
I have fiddled around with all of the voices. I don't remember which
curser voiceI assigned to what?. I also can't remember how to change it.
I thought some of you users would know which curser voice says what?
Maybe I should go back to factory defaults? But I don't know how to do
that unless I uninstall and reinstall. But if I do that don't I have a
problem with licensing?
All of your cursers use the same voice? JAWS is a bit confusing with all
the cursers.
Thanks
Shannon
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 7:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it?

although I don't hear a different voice when coordinates are read when
navigating amung the cells using my copy of Excel, and from your
mentioning that the voice that announces cell coordinates is the same
one that says the status of a message in Outlook, I'm guessing it is
either Glenn if it is a slightly higher pitch voice or it might be Rocko
if the voice is a deeper voice.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@...]
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 6, 2017 4:29 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it?

Mario,
Do you know the answer to number 1?
Which voice is it that is saying the coordinates?
Thanks
Shannon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 3:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it?

I'd be interested in the answer to #2 also; how to reverse the
announcement of the cell contents followed by the coordinates.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@...]
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 6, 2017 3:04 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it?

Hi all,

I use spread sheets every single day.

I have opened an excel sheet and when I am arrowing through it I am
hearing things that are just…. Yucky!

1                     there is this annoying voice that speaks the cell
coordinates.



I have futzed around with the voices so what I don’t know is which one
of the voices is doing this.  It is the same one that says the status of
a message in Outlook un-read, forwarded and replied.  And gives the
erroneous indexes of the messages. (for some reason it always gives x of
44.)

2                     I don’t like hearing the contents and then the
cell coordinates after.

I want to reverse the order. How can I do that?

3      How to make the entire first row  column headers and have it only
report when I change columns? I don’t want to hear it when I stay in the
same column.

Thanks

Shannon










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Re: Connecting to the internet

James Malone
 

Press insert F11, arrow down to wireless connections are available if there are some. Press enter. If you have windows 7, this should be strait forward. If you have windows 10, this might be a little harder.
Make sure to go to connect to a wireless network, and choose it from the list. If anyone has an easier approach to this, pleas jump in here.

Best:
James

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Connecting to the internet

Hello everyone,

Starting Monday next week I will be working from a different location than usual for a number of days. This means that my laptop will not automatically be connected to the internet.

Please tell me what JAWS keystrokes should I use to be able to get internet connectivity and what should I hear JAWS saying?

Many Thanks.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas.


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Angel
 


That was why I believed I would best be benefited by the Stereo-toner.  It must be remembered, by today's generation, that the Opticon, and the Stereo-toner were the only devices existing.  Which would enable a totally blind person to read print.  Of course, I heard even handwriting could be read by skilled Opticon users.  These new fangled reading devices can't even read handwriting.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

That stereo toner thing sounds truly complicated. I was briefly trained on the Optacon at the school for the blind in Marburg, Germany, but I did not have much of a nack for it and found it so slow to be useless. This may of course have to do with the fact that only a few years before then (in 1984) I blew myself up with a home-built pipe bomb and lost 2 fingers on each hand (and of course my sight), all other fingers were seriously injured, saved only because of the skill of one of the best hand surgeons in Germany at that time  and were not as fully functional as they ultimately became.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

Wow, I’ve never heard of this device!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Angel
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

There was a companion device to the Opticon called the Stereo-toner.  It worked on the same principle as did the Opticon.  excepting it translated the printed text in to tones.  Which would, in combination with other tones, decreasing and increasing in pitch to form an audio picture of the printed letter or number.  One would take a series of lessons from the Hadley school for the Blind on cassette tapes.  One would practice reading printed material thusly.  Then one would go to the school itself for two weeks.  To learn to properly use the device itself.  I thought the Sterio-toner might be a viable alternative for me to use.  As I have very limited use of my right hand.  The Opticon cost, then, three thousand dollars.  While the Stereo-toner cost one thousand dollars.  I am glad, now, I didn't get the device.  As it, like most devices which truly benefit us blind people, was discontinued shortly thereafter; and repair parts might not be so easily found.  Not to mention, it was less popular than was the Opticon.  

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:45 PM

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I certainly do remember the days of optacons.  I tried getting one myself, but by that time, they were no longer making them, and you couldn’t even get parts.  That was about 28 years ago.  LOL

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I agree with you, David, 1,000 percent. On one of my jobs, one of the doctors said that I worked in two languages, because I had Braille notes, took Braille short hand, but used my Optacon a lot more than I did Braille.

 

On that particular job, a requirement was that you had to make any corrections or modifications to reports. There was a blind guy that worked downstairs in Medical Records, and his wife had to do all of his. I worked up in Surgical Pathology. This was in the 70's, when we had multiple carbons, different colors. So, I had to keep those little slips that you use for the carbons and keep up with the colors. I had to carefully roll the typewriter to check with the Optacon about where to make the change. I could do them or would not have kept the job.

 

There is an Optacon Users List, sporatic traffic. A guy in Canada is trying to develop an Optacon that is more in line with today's technology.

 

I, for one, think that technology can be a sort of other god to some. For what the Optacon does, I think its technology is state of the art. The only improvement I could suggest would to be to see if the noise it makes could be reduced.

 

Best From,

 

Carolyn

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:54 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

Wow!

 

I still have my Optacon, and I read mail with it.

 

I read the computer screen with my Optacon,and it went very well. I had a job where I did just that, The Optacon allowed me to feel everything that was on the screen. Wow, that is so great! The Optacon was one of the best assistive technologies ever, in my apinion. It is sad that most blind people do not know what the Optacon is, but I used it to read all of my math and science textbooks, so I could get a degree in math. I could trace all calculus graphs, charts, feel how the equations were set up, and on and on. I could feel, under my finger, what a sighted person sees. That is still so exciting to me. OCR does not compare to the Optacon for small little things that you want to read like a tag on a package, a piece of mail, or read what is on a computer screen. I really wish that someone could bring it back, or a entire community would bring it back. I would be right there, fighting and doing all I could do to bring it back.

 

Have a great one, guys!

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

 

From: Randy Barnett <mailto:randy@...>

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:15 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

I too started with a Comadore 64 but I culd still see back then. My first experience with Jaws was v3.7 and have been useing it ever since.

I thought my serial No was old being in the 40,000's. LOL

On 6/9/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Hicks wrote:

 

                Oh my gosh, I still have my Opticon!

 

 

 

                Have a great day!

 

 

 

                Bob Hicks

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

                Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:25 AM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

 

                I started out with a Commodore 64 using an OPTACON to read the screen in about 1983 or so.  Hard to remember back that far

 

 

 

                Richard

 

 

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

                Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:39 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

 

                I probably have most of you beat, my Jaws serial number is 1056. I first bought Jaws for DOS in 1989, I think it was version 1.1, when Windows 3.1 came out in 19992 I used it alongside DOS.

 

                Jaws for Windows was actually first released in January 1995, it was JFW 1.0 with support for Windows 3.1/3.11 and Windows for Workgroups 3.1.

 

                JFW 2.0 was released in 1996, not sure when, it had support for Windows 95 which was released in August of 1995. Back in those days there usually was not support for a new OS version at the time of release.

 

                I am looking some of this up in a Wikipedia article, for some reason they skip JFW 3.0.

 

                In between, in 1998, 1999 and 2000 we of course had the release of Windows 98, 98SE and Millennium.

 

                Windows XP was first released on August 24, 2001

 

                JFW 4.0 which came out in September 2001 and I am pretty sure it support Windows XP.

 

                JFW 4.5 came out in August of 2002 and it was the first version which had quick nav keys for IE.

 

                JFW 5.0 was October 2003 and then there was a longer gap as JFW 6.0 didn't come out until March 2005, it introduced the ILM licensing scheme.

 

                JFW 7 was released later that same year (2005) and 7.1 is listed with a release date of June 2006.

 

                Windows Vista was released in November of 2006 and I'm pretty sure JFW 8 which was released in November of 2006 had support for it as well as introducing Realspeak Solo voices. From here on it seems to go to the annual release schedule in late October/early November.

 

                Other milestones:

 

                Jaws Tandem was released with Jaws 10 in November 2008

 

                Windows 7 was released in July of 2009 and JFW 11 came out in the fall with support for Windows 7 and it introduced Research It

 

                In 2010 JFW 12 replaced the old configuration manager with the Settings Centre

 

                Jaws 13 in 2011 introduced one of my favourite features, Convenient OCR.

 

                JFW 14 in 2012 came with Windows 8 support and Flexible Web

 

                JFW 15 in 2013 had Windows 8 touch screen support and introduced FS Reader 3.0

 

                JFW 16 in 2014 introduced command search in Settings Centre and Convenient OCR which in V13 only applied to graphics on the screen was expanded to handle entire PDF documents

 

                Windows 10 first was released on July 29, 2015 and an update to Jaws 16 from the previous fall had initial support for it.

 

                JFW 17 in 2015 introduced smart navigation for tables and Liblouis, an open source braille translator

 

                Finally JFW 18 in 2016 (last fall) introduced mouse echo, audio ducking and Settings import/export was reintroduced.

 

 

 

                Here is a link to the Wikipedia article:

 

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_(screen_reader) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_%28screen_reader%29>

 

 

 

                Regards,

 

                Sieghard

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: training modules

 

 

 

                I had an early demo version that was something like 0.76 with a serial in the 3000s.

 

 

 

                I should have stock in the company since I have owned every version since DOS, either purchased or through paying for skipped updates.

 

 

 

                Tony

 

 

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ronnie Hill

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:32 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: training modules

 

 

 

                Well I can't remember which year I did stgarted with JAWS Version of 3.3!

 

                I guess it was around 1998

 

                I thought that the first JAWS version was  started from 3.2 it amazing to know it started from version 3 but I'm not sure.

 

                Cheers everyone.

 

                Ronnie from London.

 

                                ----- Original Message -----

 

                                From: Bob Hicks <mailto:bob@...>

 

                                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

 

                                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:37 PM

 

                                Subject: Re: training modules

 

                               

 

                                Hard to believe I started on JAWS 3.1 isn’t it!

 

                               

 

                                Have a great day!

 

                               

 

                                Bob Hicks

 

                               

 

                                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io

                                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:24 PM

                                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                                Subject: Re: training modules

 

                               

 

                                If you open the FS reader, you should be able to access tutorials from there by pressing control+J.  There are links to tutorials.  If they are not already downloaded and placed in the appropriate place, the program will do this for you.  These are in Daisy format and you can use control+P to toggle play and pause.

                               

                                This is a global key command, so as long as the reader is open, it takes presidence over other programs using that key command.  This makes it very handy if you want to practice what you are reading in an open program.  This information should be enough to get you started.

                               

                                Carol

 

                                On 6/8/2017 2:46 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:

 

                                                I downloaded my version of Jaws 18.  How do I git the training modules into FS reader?  tia

 

                               

 

                                                Have a great day!

 

                               

 

                                                Bob Hicks

 

                               

 

                               

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

David Moore
 

Hi Carolyn!

I am on that Optacon list! I hope it works out that he can get the prototype of what he is trying to make. With today’s technology, the Optacon could fit in one hand, have many more features, and be very quiet compared to the original one! I never heard of this other device either LOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

That stereo toner thing sounds truly complicated. I was briefly trained on the Optacon at the school for the blind in Marburg, Germany, but I did not have much of a nack for it and found it so slow to be useless. This may of course have to do with the fact that only a few years before then (in 1984) I blew myself up with a home-built pipe bomb and lost 2 fingers on each hand (and of course my sight), all other fingers were seriously injured, saved only because of the skill of one of the best hand surgeons in Germany at that time  and were not as fully functional as they ultimately became.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

Wow, I’ve never heard of this device!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Angel
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

There was a companion device to the Opticon called the Stereo-toner.  It worked on the same principle as did the Opticon.  excepting it translated the printed text in to tones.  Which would, in combination with other tones, decreasing and increasing in pitch to form an audio picture of the printed letter or number.  One would take a series of lessons from the Hadley school for the Blind on cassette tapes.  One would practice reading printed material thusly.  Then one would go to the school itself for two weeks.  To learn to properly use the device itself.  I thought the Sterio-toner might be a viable alternative for me to use.  As I have very limited use of my right hand.  The Opticon cost, then, three thousand dollars.  While the Stereo-toner cost one thousand dollars.  I am glad, now, I didn't get the device.  As it, like most devices which truly benefit us blind people, was discontinued shortly thereafter; and repair parts might not be so easily found.  Not to mention, it was less popular than was the Opticon.  

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:45 PM

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I certainly do remember the days of optacons.  I tried getting one myself, but by that time, they were no longer making them, and you couldn’t even get parts.  That was about 28 years ago.  LOL

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I agree with you, David, 1,000 percent. On one of my jobs, one of the doctors said that I worked in two languages, because I had Braille notes, took Braille short hand, but used my Optacon a lot more than I did Braille.

 

On that particular job, a requirement was that you had to make any corrections or modifications to reports. There was a blind guy that worked downstairs in Medical Records, and his wife had to do all of his. I worked up in Surgical Pathology. This was in the 70's, when we had multiple carbons, different colors. So, I had to keep those little slips that you use for the carbons and keep up with the colors. I had to carefully roll the typewriter to check with the Optacon about where to make the change. I could do them or would not have kept the job.

 

There is an Optacon Users List, sporatic traffic. A guy in Canada is trying to develop an Optacon that is more in line with today's technology.

 

I, for one, think that technology can be a sort of other god to some. For what the Optacon does, I think its technology is state of the art. The only improvement I could suggest would to be to see if the noise it makes could be reduced.

 

Best From,

 

Carolyn

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:54 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

Wow!

 

I still have my Optacon, and I read mail with it.

 

I read the computer screen with my Optacon,and it went very well. I had a job where I did just that, The Optacon allowed me to feel everything that was on the screen. Wow, that is so great! The Optacon was one of the best assistive technologies ever, in my apinion. It is sad that most blind people do not know what the Optacon is, but I used it to read all of my math and science textbooks, so I could get a degree in math. I could trace all calculus graphs, charts, feel how the equations were set up, and on and on. I could feel, under my finger, what a sighted person sees. That is still so exciting to me. OCR does not compare to the Optacon for small little things that you want to read like a tag on a package, a piece of mail, or read what is on a computer screen. I really wish that someone could bring it back, or a entire community would bring it back. I would be right there, fighting and doing all I could do to bring it back.

 

Have a great one, guys!

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

 

From: Randy Barnett <mailto:randy@...>

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:15 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

I too started with a Comadore 64 but I culd still see back then. My first experience with Jaws was v3.7 and have been useing it ever since.

I thought my serial No was old being in the 40,000's. LOL

On 6/9/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Hicks wrote:

 

                Oh my gosh, I still have my Opticon!

 

 

 

                Have a great day!

 

 

 

                Bob Hicks

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

                Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:25 AM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

 

                I started out with a Commodore 64 using an OPTACON to read the screen in about 1983 or so.  Hard to remember back that far

 

 

 

                Richard

 

 

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

                Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:39 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

 

                I probably have most of you beat, my Jaws serial number is 1056. I first bought Jaws for DOS in 1989, I think it was version 1.1, when Windows 3.1 came out in 19992 I used it alongside DOS.

 

                Jaws for Windows was actually first released in January 1995, it was JFW 1.0 with support for Windows 3.1/3.11 and Windows for Workgroups 3.1.

 

                JFW 2.0 was released in 1996, not sure when, it had support for Windows 95 which was released in August of 1995. Back in those days there usually was not support for a new OS version at the time of release.

 

                I am looking some of this up in a Wikipedia article, for some reason they skip JFW 3.0.

 

                In between, in 1998, 1999 and 2000 we of course had the release of Windows 98, 98SE and Millennium.

 

                Windows XP was first released on August 24, 2001

 

                JFW 4.0 which came out in September 2001 and I am pretty sure it support Windows XP.

 

                JFW 4.5 came out in August of 2002 and it was the first version which had quick nav keys for IE.

 

                JFW 5.0 was October 2003 and then there was a longer gap as JFW 6.0 didn't come out until March 2005, it introduced the ILM licensing scheme.

 

                JFW 7 was released later that same year (2005) and 7.1 is listed with a release date of June 2006.

 

                Windows Vista was released in November of 2006 and I'm pretty sure JFW 8 which was released in November of 2006 had support for it as well as introducing Realspeak Solo voices. From here on it seems to go to the annual release schedule in late October/early November.

 

                Other milestones:

 

                Jaws Tandem was released with Jaws 10 in November 2008

 

                Windows 7 was released in July of 2009 and JFW 11 came out in the fall with support for Windows 7 and it introduced Research It

 

                In 2010 JFW 12 replaced the old configuration manager with the Settings Centre

 

                Jaws 13 in 2011 introduced one of my favourite features, Convenient OCR.

 

                JFW 14 in 2012 came with Windows 8 support and Flexible Web

 

                JFW 15 in 2013 had Windows 8 touch screen support and introduced FS Reader 3.0

 

                JFW 16 in 2014 introduced command search in Settings Centre and Convenient OCR which in V13 only applied to graphics on the screen was expanded to handle entire PDF documents

 

                Windows 10 first was released on July 29, 2015 and an update to Jaws 16 from the previous fall had initial support for it.

 

                JFW 17 in 2015 introduced smart navigation for tables and Liblouis, an open source braille translator

 

                Finally JFW 18 in 2016 (last fall) introduced mouse echo, audio ducking and Settings import/export was reintroduced.

 

 

 

                Here is a link to the Wikipedia article:

 

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_(screen_reader) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_%28screen_reader%29>

 

 

 

                Regards,

 

                Sieghard

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: training modules

 

 

 

                I had an early demo version that was something like 0.76 with a serial in the 3000s.

 

 

 

                I should have stock in the company since I have owned every version since DOS, either purchased or through paying for skipped updates.

 

 

 

                Tony

 

 

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ronnie Hill

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:32 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: training modules

 

 

 

                Well I can't remember which year I did stgarted with JAWS Version of 3.3!

 

                I guess it was around 1998

 

                I thought that the first JAWS version was  started from 3.2 it amazing to know it started from version 3 but I'm not sure.

 

                Cheers everyone.

 

                Ronnie from London.

 

                                ----- Original Message -----

 

                                From: Bob Hicks <mailto:bob@...>

 

                                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

 

                                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:37 PM

 

                                Subject: Re: training modules

 

                               

 

                                Hard to believe I started on JAWS 3.1 isn’t it!

 

                               

 

                                Have a great day!

 

                               

 

                                Bob Hicks

 

                               

 

                                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io

                                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:24 PM

                                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                                Subject: Re: training modules

 

                               

 

                                If you open the FS reader, you should be able to access tutorials from there by pressing control+J.  There are links to tutorials.  If they are not already downloaded and placed in the appropriate place, the program will do this for you.  These are in Daisy format and you can use control+P to toggle play and pause.

                               

                                This is a global key command, so as long as the reader is open, it takes presidence over other programs using that key command.  This makes it very handy if you want to practice what you are reading in an open program.  This information should be enough to get you started.

                               

                                Carol

 

                                On 6/8/2017 2:46 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:

 

                                                I downloaded my version of Jaws 18.  How do I git the training modules into FS reader?  tia

 

                               

 

                                                Have a great day!

 

                               

 

                                                Bob Hicks

 

                               

 

                               

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

That stereo toner thing sounds truly complicated. I was briefly trained on the Optacon at the school for the blind in Marburg, Germany, but I did not have much of a nack for it and found it so slow to be useless. This may of course have to do with the fact that only a few years before then (in 1984) I blew myself up with a home-built pipe bomb and lost 2 fingers on each hand (and of course my sight), all other fingers were seriously injured, saved only because of the skill of one of the best hand surgeons in Germany at that time  and were not as fully functional as they ultimately became.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

Wow, I’ve never heard of this device!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Angel
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

There was a companion device to the Opticon called the Stereo-toner.  It worked on the same principle as did the Opticon.  excepting it translated the printed text in to tones.  Which would, in combination with other tones, decreasing and increasing in pitch to form an audio picture of the printed letter or number.  One would take a series of lessons from the Hadley school for the Blind on cassette tapes.  One would practice reading printed material thusly.  Then one would go to the school itself for two weeks.  To learn to properly use the device itself.  I thought the Sterio-toner might be a viable alternative for me to use.  As I have very limited use of my right hand.  The Opticon cost, then, three thousand dollars.  While the Stereo-toner cost one thousand dollars.  I am glad, now, I didn't get the device.  As it, like most devices which truly benefit us blind people, was discontinued shortly thereafter; and repair parts might not be so easily found.  Not to mention, it was less popular than was the Opticon.  

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:45 PM

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I certainly do remember the days of optacons.  I tried getting one myself, but by that time, they were no longer making them, and you couldn’t even get parts.  That was about 28 years ago.  LOL

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I agree with you, David, 1,000 percent. On one of my jobs, one of the doctors said that I worked in two languages, because I had Braille notes, took Braille short hand, but used my Optacon a lot more than I did Braille.

 

On that particular job, a requirement was that you had to make any corrections or modifications to reports. There was a blind guy that worked downstairs in Medical Records, and his wife had to do all of his. I worked up in Surgical Pathology. This was in the 70's, when we had multiple carbons, different colors. So, I had to keep those little slips that you use for the carbons and keep up with the colors. I had to carefully roll the typewriter to check with the Optacon about where to make the change. I could do them or would not have kept the job.

 

There is an Optacon Users List, sporatic traffic. A guy in Canada is trying to develop an Optacon that is more in line with today's technology.

 

I, for one, think that technology can be a sort of other god to some. For what the Optacon does, I think its technology is state of the art. The only improvement I could suggest would to be to see if the noise it makes could be reduced.

 

Best From,

 

Carolyn

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:54 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

Wow!

 

I still have my Optacon, and I read mail with it.

 

I read the computer screen with my Optacon,and it went very well. I had a job where I did just that, The Optacon allowed me to feel everything that was on the screen. Wow, that is so great! The Optacon was one of the best assistive technologies ever, in my apinion. It is sad that most blind people do not know what the Optacon is, but I used it to read all of my math and science textbooks, so I could get a degree in math. I could trace all calculus graphs, charts, feel how the equations were set up, and on and on. I could feel, under my finger, what a sighted person sees. That is still so exciting to me. OCR does not compare to the Optacon for small little things that you want to read like a tag on a package, a piece of mail, or read what is on a computer screen. I really wish that someone could bring it back, or a entire community would bring it back. I would be right there, fighting and doing all I could do to bring it back.

 

Have a great one, guys!

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

 

From: Randy Barnett <mailto:randy@...>

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:15 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

I too started with a Comadore 64 but I culd still see back then. My first experience with Jaws was v3.7 and have been useing it ever since.

I thought my serial No was old being in the 40,000's. LOL

On 6/9/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Hicks wrote:

 

                Oh my gosh, I still have my Opticon!

 

 

 

                Have a great day!

 

 

 

                Bob Hicks

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

                Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:25 AM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

 

                I started out with a Commodore 64 using an OPTACON to read the screen in about 1983 or so.  Hard to remember back that far

 

 

 

                Richard

 

 

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

                Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:39 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

 

                I probably have most of you beat, my Jaws serial number is 1056. I first bought Jaws for DOS in 1989, I think it was version 1.1, when Windows 3.1 came out in 19992 I used it alongside DOS.

 

                Jaws for Windows was actually first released in January 1995, it was JFW 1.0 with support for Windows 3.1/3.11 and Windows for Workgroups 3.1.

 

                JFW 2.0 was released in 1996, not sure when, it had support for Windows 95 which was released in August of 1995. Back in those days there usually was not support for a new OS version at the time of release.

 

                I am looking some of this up in a Wikipedia article, for some reason they skip JFW 3.0.

 

                In between, in 1998, 1999 and 2000 we of course had the release of Windows 98, 98SE and Millennium.

 

                Windows XP was first released on August 24, 2001

 

                JFW 4.0 which came out in September 2001 and I am pretty sure it support Windows XP.

 

                JFW 4.5 came out in August of 2002 and it was the first version which had quick nav keys for IE.

 

                JFW 5.0 was October 2003 and then there was a longer gap as JFW 6.0 didn't come out until March 2005, it introduced the ILM licensing scheme.

 

                JFW 7 was released later that same year (2005) and 7.1 is listed with a release date of June 2006.

 

                Windows Vista was released in November of 2006 and I'm pretty sure JFW 8 which was released in November of 2006 had support for it as well as introducing Realspeak Solo voices. From here on it seems to go to the annual release schedule in late October/early November.

 

                Other milestones:

 

                Jaws Tandem was released with Jaws 10 in November 2008

 

                Windows 7 was released in July of 2009 and JFW 11 came out in the fall with support for Windows 7 and it introduced Research It

 

                In 2010 JFW 12 replaced the old configuration manager with the Settings Centre

 

                Jaws 13 in 2011 introduced one of my favourite features, Convenient OCR.

 

                JFW 14 in 2012 came with Windows 8 support and Flexible Web

 

                JFW 15 in 2013 had Windows 8 touch screen support and introduced FS Reader 3.0

 

                JFW 16 in 2014 introduced command search in Settings Centre and Convenient OCR which in V13 only applied to graphics on the screen was expanded to handle entire PDF documents

 

                Windows 10 first was released on July 29, 2015 and an update to Jaws 16 from the previous fall had initial support for it.

 

                JFW 17 in 2015 introduced smart navigation for tables and Liblouis, an open source braille translator

 

                Finally JFW 18 in 2016 (last fall) introduced mouse echo, audio ducking and Settings import/export was reintroduced.

 

 

 

                Here is a link to the Wikipedia article:

 

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_(screen_reader) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_%28screen_reader%29>

 

 

 

                Regards,

 

                Sieghard

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: training modules

 

 

 

                I had an early demo version that was something like 0.76 with a serial in the 3000s.

 

 

 

                I should have stock in the company since I have owned every version since DOS, either purchased or through paying for skipped updates.

 

 

 

                Tony

 

 

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ronnie Hill

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:32 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: training modules

 

 

 

                Well I can't remember which year I did stgarted with JAWS Version of 3.3!

 

                I guess it was around 1998

 

                I thought that the first JAWS version was  started from 3.2 it amazing to know it started from version 3 but I'm not sure.

 

                Cheers everyone.

 

                Ronnie from London.

 

                                ----- Original Message -----

 

                                From: Bob Hicks <mailto:bob@...>

 

                                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

 

                                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:37 PM

 

                                Subject: Re: training modules

 

                               

 

                                Hard to believe I started on JAWS 3.1 isn’t it!

 

                               

 

                                Have a great day!

 

                               

 

                                Bob Hicks

 

                               

 

                                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io

                                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:24 PM

                                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                                Subject: Re: training modules

 

                               

 

                                If you open the FS reader, you should be able to access tutorials from there by pressing control+J.  There are links to tutorials.  If they are not already downloaded and placed in the appropriate place, the program will do this for you.  These are in Daisy format and you can use control+P to toggle play and pause.

                               

                                This is a global key command, so as long as the reader is open, it takes presidence over other programs using that key command.  This makes it very handy if you want to practice what you are reading in an open program.  This information should be enough to get you started.

                               

                                Carol

 

                                On 6/8/2017 2:46 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:

 

                                                I downloaded my version of Jaws 18.  How do I git the training modules into FS reader?  tia

 

                               

 

                                                Have a great day!

 

                               

 

                                                Bob Hicks

 

                               

 

                               

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

Wow, I’ve never heard of this device!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Angel
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

There was a companion device to the Opticon called the Stereo-toner.  It worked on the same principle as did the Opticon.  excepting it translated the printed text in to tones.  Which would, in combination with other tones, decreasing and increasing in pitch to form an audio picture of the printed letter or number.  One would take a series of lessons from the Hadley school for the Blind on cassette tapes.  One would practice reading printed material thusly.  Then one would go to the school itself for two weeks.  To learn to properly use the device itself.  I thought the Sterio-toner might be a viable alternative for me to use.  As I have very limited use of my right hand.  The Opticon cost, then, three thousand dollars.  While the Stereo-toner cost one thousand dollars.  I am glad, now, I didn't get the device.  As it, like most devices which truly benefit us blind people, was discontinued shortly thereafter; and repair parts might not be so easily found.  Not to mention, it was less popular than was the Opticon.  

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Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:45 PM

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I certainly do remember the days of optacons.  I tried getting one myself, but by that time, they were no longer making them, and you couldn’t even get parts.  That was about 28 years ago.  LOL

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I agree with you, David, 1,000 percent. On one of my jobs, one of the doctors said that I worked in two languages, because I had Braille notes, took Braille short hand, but used my Optacon a lot more than I did Braille.

 

On that particular job, a requirement was that you had to make any corrections or modifications to reports. There was a blind guy that worked downstairs in Medical Records, and his wife had to do all of his. I worked up in Surgical Pathology. This was in the 70's, when we had multiple carbons, different colors. So, I had to keep those little slips that you use for the carbons and keep up with the colors. I had to carefully roll the typewriter to check with the Optacon about where to make the change. I could do them or would not have kept the job.

 

There is an Optacon Users List, sporatic traffic. A guy in Canada is trying to develop an Optacon that is more in line with today's technology.

 

I, for one, think that technology can be a sort of other god to some. For what the Optacon does, I think its technology is state of the art. The only improvement I could suggest would to be to see if the noise it makes could be reduced.

 

Best From,

 

Carolyn

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:54 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

Wow!

 

I still have my Optacon, and I read mail with it.

 

I read the computer screen with my Optacon,and it went very well. I had a job where I did just that, The Optacon allowed me to feel everything that was on the screen. Wow, that is so great! The Optacon was one of the best assistive technologies ever, in my apinion. It is sad that most blind people do not know what the Optacon is, but I used it to read all of my math and science textbooks, so I could get a degree in math. I could trace all calculus graphs, charts, feel how the equations were set up, and on and on. I could feel, under my finger, what a sighted person sees. That is still so exciting to me. OCR does not compare to the Optacon for small little things that you want to read like a tag on a package, a piece of mail, or read what is on a computer screen. I really wish that someone could bring it back, or a entire community would bring it back. I would be right there, fighting and doing all I could do to bring it back.

 

Have a great one, guys!

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

 

From: Randy Barnett <mailto:randy@...>

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:15 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

I too started with a Comadore 64 but I culd still see back then. My first experience with Jaws was v3.7 and have been useing it ever since.

I thought my serial No was old being in the 40,000's. LOL

On 6/9/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Hicks wrote:

 

                Oh my gosh, I still have my Opticon!

 

 

 

                Have a great day!

 

 

 

                Bob Hicks

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

                Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:25 AM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

 

                I started out with a Commodore 64 using an OPTACON to read the screen in about 1983 or so.  Hard to remember back that far

 

 

 

                Richard

 

 

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

                Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:39 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

 

                I probably have most of you beat, my Jaws serial number is 1056. I first bought Jaws for DOS in 1989, I think it was version 1.1, when Windows 3.1 came out in 19992 I used it alongside DOS.

 

                Jaws for Windows was actually first released in January 1995, it was JFW 1.0 with support for Windows 3.1/3.11 and Windows for Workgroups 3.1.

 

                JFW 2.0 was released in 1996, not sure when, it had support for Windows 95 which was released in August of 1995. Back in those days there usually was not support for a new OS version at the time of release.

 

                I am looking some of this up in a Wikipedia article, for some reason they skip JFW 3.0.

 

                In between, in 1998, 1999 and 2000 we of course had the release of Windows 98, 98SE and Millennium.

 

                Windows XP was first released on August 24, 2001

 

                JFW 4.0 which came out in September 2001 and I am pretty sure it support Windows XP.

 

                JFW 4.5 came out in August of 2002 and it was the first version which had quick nav keys for IE.

 

                JFW 5.0 was October 2003 and then there was a longer gap as JFW 6.0 didn't come out until March 2005, it introduced the ILM licensing scheme.

 

                JFW 7 was released later that same year (2005) and 7.1 is listed with a release date of June 2006.

 

                Windows Vista was released in November of 2006 and I'm pretty sure JFW 8 which was released in November of 2006 had support for it as well as introducing Realspeak Solo voices. From here on it seems to go to the annual release schedule in late October/early November.

 

                Other milestones:

 

                Jaws Tandem was released with Jaws 10 in November 2008

 

                Windows 7 was released in July of 2009 and JFW 11 came out in the fall with support for Windows 7 and it introduced Research It

 

                In 2010 JFW 12 replaced the old configuration manager with the Settings Centre

 

                Jaws 13 in 2011 introduced one of my favourite features, Convenient OCR.

 

                JFW 14 in 2012 came with Windows 8 support and Flexible Web

 

                JFW 15 in 2013 had Windows 8 touch screen support and introduced FS Reader 3.0

 

                JFW 16 in 2014 introduced command search in Settings Centre and Convenient OCR which in V13 only applied to graphics on the screen was expanded to handle entire PDF documents

 

                Windows 10 first was released on July 29, 2015 and an update to Jaws 16 from the previous fall had initial support for it.

 

                JFW 17 in 2015 introduced smart navigation for tables and Liblouis, an open source braille translator

 

                Finally JFW 18 in 2016 (last fall) introduced mouse echo, audio ducking and Settings import/export was reintroduced.

 

 

 

                Here is a link to the Wikipedia article:

 

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_(screen_reader) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_%28screen_reader%29>

 

 

 

                Regards,

 

                Sieghard

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: training modules

 

 

 

                I had an early demo version that was something like 0.76 with a serial in the 3000s.

 

 

 

                I should have stock in the company since I have owned every version since DOS, either purchased or through paying for skipped updates.

 

 

 

                Tony

 

 

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ronnie Hill

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:32 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: training modules

 

 

 

                Well I can't remember which year I did stgarted with JAWS Version of 3.3!

 

                I guess it was around 1998

 

                I thought that the first JAWS version was  started from 3.2 it amazing to know it started from version 3 but I'm not sure.

 

                Cheers everyone.

 

                Ronnie from London.

 

                                ----- Original Message -----

 

                                From: Bob Hicks <mailto:bob@...>

 

                                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

 

                                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:37 PM

 

                                Subject: Re: training modules

 

                               

 

                                Hard to believe I started on JAWS 3.1 isn’t it!

 

                               

 

                                Have a great day!

 

                               

 

                                Bob Hicks

 

                               

 

                                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io

                                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:24 PM

                                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                                Subject: Re: training modules

 

                               

 

                                If you open the FS reader, you should be able to access tutorials from there by pressing control+J.  There are links to tutorials.  If they are not already downloaded and placed in the appropriate place, the program will do this for you.  These are in Daisy format and you can use control+P to toggle play and pause.

                               

                                This is a global key command, so as long as the reader is open, it takes presidence over other programs using that key command.  This makes it very handy if you want to practice what you are reading in an open program.  This information should be enough to get you started.

                               

                                Carol

 

                                On 6/8/2017 2:46 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:

 

                                                I downloaded my version of Jaws 18.  How do I git the training modules into FS reader?  tia

 

                               

 

                                                Have a great day!

 

                               

 

                                                Bob Hicks

 

                               

 

                               

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Angel
 


There was a companion device to the Opticon called the Stereo-toner.  It worked on the same principle as did the Opticon.  excepting it translated the printed text in to tones.  Which would, in combination with other tones, decreasing and increasing in pitch to form an audio picture of the printed letter or number.  One would take a series of lessons from the Hadley school for the Blind on cassette tapes.  One would practice reading printed material thusly.  Then one would go to the school itself for two weeks.  To learn to properly use the device itself.  I thought the Sterio-toner might be a viable alternative for me to use.  As I have very limited use of my right hand.  The Opticon cost, then, three thousand dollars.  While the Stereo-toner cost one thousand dollars.  I am glad, now, I didn't get the device.  As it, like most devices which truly benefit us blind people, was discontinued shortly thereafter; and repair parts might not be so easily found.  Not to mention, it was less popular than was the Opticon.  

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

I certainly do remember the days of optacons.  I tried getting one myself, but by that time, they were no longer making them, and you couldn’t even get parts.  That was about 28 years ago.  LOL

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I agree with you, David, 1,000 percent. On one of my jobs, one of the doctors said that I worked in two languages, because I had Braille notes, took Braille short hand, but used my Optacon a lot more than I did Braille.

 

On that particular job, a requirement was that you had to make any corrections or modifications to reports. There was a blind guy that worked downstairs in Medical Records, and his wife had to do all of his. I worked up in Surgical Pathology. This was in the 70's, when we had multiple carbons, different colors. So, I had to keep those little slips that you use for the carbons and keep up with the colors. I had to carefully roll the typewriter to check with the Optacon about where to make the change. I could do them or would not have kept the job.

 

There is an Optacon Users List, sporatic traffic. A guy in Canada is trying to develop an Optacon that is more in line with today's technology.

 

I, for one, think that technology can be a sort of other god to some. For what the Optacon does, I think its technology is state of the art. The only improvement I could suggest would to be to see if the noise it makes could be reduced.

 

Best From,

 

Carolyn

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:54 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

Wow!

 

I still have my Optacon, and I read mail with it.

 

I read the computer screen with my Optacon,and it went very well. I had a job where I did just that, The Optacon allowed me to feel everything that was on the screen. Wow, that is so great! The Optacon was one of the best assistive technologies ever, in my apinion. It is sad that most blind people do not know what the Optacon is, but I used it to read all of my math and science textbooks, so I could get a degree in math. I could trace all calculus graphs, charts, feel how the equations were set up, and on and on. I could feel, under my finger, what a sighted person sees. That is still so exciting to me. OCR does not compare to the Optacon for small little things that you want to read like a tag on a package, a piece of mail, or read what is on a computer screen. I really wish that someone could bring it back, or a entire community would bring it back. I would be right there, fighting and doing all I could do to bring it back.

 

Have a great one, guys!

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

 

From: Randy Barnett <mailto:randy@...>

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:15 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

I too started with a Comadore 64 but I culd still see back then. My first experience with Jaws was v3.7 and have been useing it ever since.

I thought my serial No was old being in the 40,000's. LOL

On 6/9/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Hicks wrote:

 

                Oh my gosh, I still have my Opticon!

 

 

 

                Have a great day!

 

 

 

                Bob Hicks

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

                Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:25 AM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

 

                I started out with a Commodore 64 using an OPTACON to read the screen in about 1983 or so.  Hard to remember back that far

 

 

 

                Richard

 

 

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

                Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:39 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

 

                I probably have most of you beat, my Jaws serial number is 1056. I first bought Jaws for DOS in 1989, I think it was version 1.1, when Windows 3.1 came out in 19992 I used it alongside DOS.

 

                Jaws for Windows was actually first released in January 1995, it was JFW 1.0 with support for Windows 3.1/3.11 and Windows for Workgroups 3.1.

 

                JFW 2.0 was released in 1996, not sure when, it had support for Windows 95 which was released in August of 1995. Back in those days there usually was not support for a new OS version at the time of release.

 

                I am looking some of this up in a Wikipedia article, for some reason they skip JFW 3.0.

 

                In between, in 1998, 1999 and 2000 we of course had the release of Windows 98, 98SE and Millennium.

 

                Windows XP was first released on August 24, 2001

 

                JFW 4.0 which came out in September 2001 and I am pretty sure it support Windows XP.

 

                JFW 4.5 came out in August of 2002 and it was the first version which had quick nav keys for IE.

 

                JFW 5.0 was October 2003 and then there was a longer gap as JFW 6.0 didn't come out until March 2005, it introduced the ILM licensing scheme.

 

                JFW 7 was released later that same year (2005) and 7.1 is listed with a release date of June 2006.

 

                Windows Vista was released in November of 2006 and I'm pretty sure JFW 8 which was released in November of 2006 had support for it as well as introducing Realspeak Solo voices. From here on it seems to go to the annual release schedule in late October/early November.

 

                Other milestones:

 

                Jaws Tandem was released with Jaws 10 in November 2008

 

                Windows 7 was released in July of 2009 and JFW 11 came out in the fall with support for Windows 7 and it introduced Research It

 

                In 2010 JFW 12 replaced the old configuration manager with the Settings Centre

 

                Jaws 13 in 2011 introduced one of my favourite features, Convenient OCR.

 

                JFW 14 in 2012 came with Windows 8 support and Flexible Web

 

                JFW 15 in 2013 had Windows 8 touch screen support and introduced FS Reader 3.0

 

                JFW 16 in 2014 introduced command search in Settings Centre and Convenient OCR which in V13 only applied to graphics on the screen was expanded to handle entire PDF documents

 

                Windows 10 first was released on July 29, 2015 and an update to Jaws 16 from the previous fall had initial support for it.

 

                JFW 17 in 2015 introduced smart navigation for tables and Liblouis, an open source braille translator

 

                Finally JFW 18 in 2016 (last fall) introduced mouse echo, audio ducking and Settings import/export was reintroduced.

 

 

 

                Here is a link to the Wikipedia article:

 

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_(screen_reader) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_%28screen_reader%29>

 

 

 

                Regards,

 

                Sieghard

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: training modules

 

 

 

                I had an early demo version that was something like 0.76 with a serial in the 3000s.

 

 

 

                I should have stock in the company since I have owned every version since DOS, either purchased or through paying for skipped updates.

 

 

 

                Tony

 

 

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ronnie Hill

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:32 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: training modules

 

 

 

                Well I can't remember which year I did stgarted with JAWS Version of 3.3!

 

                I guess it was around 1998

 

                I thought that the first JAWS version was  started from 3.2 it amazing to know it started from version 3 but I'm not sure.

 

                Cheers everyone.

 

                Ronnie from London.

 

                                ----- Original Message -----

 

                                From: Bob Hicks <mailto:bob@...>

 

                                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

 

                                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:37 PM

 

                                Subject: Re: training modules

 

                               

 

                                Hard to believe I started on JAWS 3.1 isn’t it!

 

                               

 

                                Have a great day!

 

                               

 

                                Bob Hicks

 

                               

 

                                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io

                                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:24 PM

                                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                                Subject: Re: training modules

 

                               

 

                                If you open the FS reader, you should be able to access tutorials from there by pressing control+J.  There are links to tutorials.  If they are not already downloaded and placed in the appropriate place, the program will do this for you.  These are in Daisy format and you can use control+P to toggle play and pause.

                               

                                This is a global key command, so as long as the reader is open, it takes presidence over other programs using that key command.  This makes it very handy if you want to practice what you are reading in an open program.  This information should be enough to get you started.

                               

                                Carol

 

                                On 6/8/2017 2:46 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:

 

                                                I downloaded my version of Jaws 18.  How do I git the training modules into FS reader?  tia

 

                               

 

                                                Have a great day!

 

                               

 

                                                Bob Hicks

 

                               

 

                               

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Ring Video Pro accessibility

 

I have a regular Ring Video Doorbell at home and a Pro at my retail store’s backdoor.

As Luis says, it’s relatively accessible, but it could be improved. I find especially sometimes when a notification comes in that somebody rang the doorbell and I tap on it, then I have to unlock my device with Touch Id it sometimes goes straight to the video screen and sometimes it does not.

Also, at least for me you have to double tap a button to speak, it would make sense to me if this would be automatically done or at least if there were a setting where you could enable or disable this.

I also wish they could figure out how you could answer the doorbell from your lockscreen just as you can answer a phone call, but that maybe something Apple prevents.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Luis Difut
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 4:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Ring Video Pro accessibility

 

Yes I use one. It's not perfect but I can answer the door & talk to the ringer. Most everything is labeled "Miles my vary!"

I have the Ring video door bell with two extra stick up cams for the back door and yard.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Ring Video Pro accessibility

 

Hello list,

Was considering getting a Ring Video Pro and would like to know if the accompanying app/cloud service is at all accessible?

I’d likely get someone to install it, but I’m interested in the notifications aspect. Both the wife and I run our businesses out of the house, so we’re home throughout the day. We’ve already got a no solicitations, no surveys and no sermons sign in front to cut down on people coming to the door, but there are always those who would never consider that such a sign applies to them.

In any event, I’d like to know people’s experiences with this device and accompanying desktop app for Windows.

Using the latest JFW 18.

Thanks,


Re: Connecting to the internet

Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
 

Hello everyone,

Starting Monday next week I will be working from a different location than usual for a number of days. This means that my laptop will not automatically be connected to the internet.

Please tell me what JAWS keystrokes should I use to be able to get internet connectivity and what should I hear JAWS saying?

Many Thanks.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas.


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I certainly do remember the days of optacons.  I tried getting one myself, but by that time, they were no longer making them, and you couldn’t even get parts.  That was about 28 years ago.  LOL

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I agree with you, David, 1,000 percent. On one of my jobs, one of the doctors said that I worked in two languages, because I had Braille notes, took Braille short hand, but used my Optacon a lot more than I did Braille.

 

On that particular job, a requirement was that you had to make any corrections or modifications to reports. There was a blind guy that worked downstairs in Medical Records, and his wife had to do all of his. I worked up in Surgical Pathology. This was in the 70's, when we had multiple carbons, different colors. So, I had to keep those little slips that you use for the carbons and keep up with the colors. I had to carefully roll the typewriter to check with the Optacon about where to make the change. I could do them or would not have kept the job.

 

There is an Optacon Users List, sporatic traffic. A guy in Canada is trying to develop an Optacon that is more in line with today's technology.

 

I, for one, think that technology can be a sort of other god to some. For what the Optacon does, I think its technology is state of the art. The only improvement I could suggest would to be to see if the noise it makes could be reduced.

 

Best From,

 

Carolyn

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:54 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

Wow!

 

I still have my Optacon, and I read mail with it.

 

I read the computer screen with my Optacon,and it went very well. I had a job where I did just that, The Optacon allowed me to feel everything that was on the screen. Wow, that is so great! The Optacon was one of the best assistive technologies ever, in my apinion. It is sad that most blind people do not know what the Optacon is, but I used it to read all of my math and science textbooks, so I could get a degree in math. I could trace all calculus graphs, charts, feel how the equations were set up, and on and on. I could feel, under my finger, what a sighted person sees. That is still so exciting to me. OCR does not compare to the Optacon for small little things that you want to read like a tag on a package, a piece of mail, or read what is on a computer screen. I really wish that someone could bring it back, or a entire community would bring it back. I would be right there, fighting and doing all I could do to bring it back.

 

Have a great one, guys!

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

 

From: Randy Barnett <mailto:randy@...>

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:15 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

I too started with a Comadore 64 but I culd still see back then. My first experience with Jaws was v3.7 and have been useing it ever since.

I thought my serial No was old being in the 40,000's. LOL

On 6/9/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Hicks wrote:

 

                Oh my gosh, I still have my Opticon!

 

 

 

                Have a great day!

 

 

 

                Bob Hicks

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

                Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:25 AM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

 

                I started out with a Commodore 64 using an OPTACON to read the screen in about 1983 or so.  Hard to remember back that far.

 

 

 

                Richard

 

 

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

                Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:39 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

 

 

                I probably have most of you beat, my Jaws serial number is 1056. I first bought Jaws for DOS in 1989, I think it was version 1.1, when Windows 3.1 came out in 19992 I used it alongside DOS.

 

                Jaws for Windows was actually first released in January 1995, it was JFW 1.0 with support for Windows 3.1/3.11 and Windows for Workgroups 3.1.

 

                JFW 2.0 was released in 1996, not sure when, it had support for Windows 95 which was released in August of 1995. Back in those days there usually was not support for a new OS version at the time of release.

 

                I am looking some of this up in a Wikipedia article, for some reason they skip JFW 3.0.

 

                In between, in 1998, 1999 and 2000 we of course had the release of Windows 98, 98SE and Millennium.

 

                Windows XP was first released on August 24, 2001

 

                JFW 4.0 which came out in September 2001 and I am pretty sure it support Windows XP.

 

                JFW 4.5 came out in August of 2002 and it was the first version which had quick nav keys for IE.

 

                JFW 5.0 was October 2003 and then there was a longer gap as JFW 6.0 didn't come out until March 2005, it introduced the ILM licensing scheme.

 

                JFW 7 was released later that same year (2005) and 7.1 is listed with a release date of June 2006.

 

                Windows Vista was released in November of 2006 and I'm pretty sure JFW 8 which was released in November of 2006 had support for it as well as introducing Realspeak Solo voices. From here on it seems to go to the annual release schedule in late October/early November.

 

                Other milestones:

 

                Jaws Tandem was released with Jaws 10 in November 2008

 

                Windows 7 was released in July of 2009 and JFW 11 came out in the fall with support for Windows 7 and it introduced Research It

 

                In 2010 JFW 12 replaced the old configuration manager with the Settings Centre

 

                Jaws 13 in 2011 introduced one of my favourite features, Convenient OCR.

 

                JFW 14 in 2012 came with Windows 8 support and Flexible Web

 

                JFW 15 in 2013 had Windows 8 touch screen support and introduced FS Reader 3.0

 

                JFW 16 in 2014 introduced command search in Settings Centre and Convenient OCR which in V13 only applied to graphics on the screen was expanded to handle entire PDF documents

 

                Windows 10 first was released on July 29, 2015 and an update to Jaws 16 from the previous fall had initial support for it.

 

                JFW 17 in 2015 introduced smart navigation for tables and Liblouis, an open source braille translator

 

                Finally JFW 18 in 2016 (last fall) introduced mouse echo, audio ducking and Settings import/export was reintroduced.

 

 

 

                Here is a link to the Wikipedia article:

 

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_(screen_reader) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_%28screen_reader%29>

 

 

 

                Regards,

 

                Sieghard

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: training modules

 

 

 

                I had an early demo version that was something like 0.76 with a serial in the 3000s.

 

 

 

                I should have stock in the company since I have owned every version since DOS, either purchased or through paying for skipped updates.

 

 

 

                Tony

 

 

 

 

 

                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ronnie Hill

                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:32 PM

                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                Subject: Re: training modules

 

 

 

                Well I can't remember which year I did stgarted with JAWS Version of 3.3!

 

                I guess it was around 1998

 

                I thought that the first JAWS version was  started from 3.2 it amazing to know it started from version 3 but I'm not sure.

 

                Cheers everyone.

 

                Ronnie from London.

 

                                ----- Original Message -----

 

                                From: Bob Hicks <mailto:bob@...>

 

                                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

 

                                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:37 PM

 

                                Subject: Re: training modules

 

                               

 

                                Hard to believe I started on JAWS 3.1 isn’t it!

 

                               

 

                                Have a great day!

 

                               

 

                                Bob Hicks

 

                               

 

                                From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io

                                Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:24 PM

                                To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

                                Subject: Re: training modules

 

                               

 

                                If you open the FS reader, you should be able to access tutorials from there by pressing control+J.  There are links to tutorials.  If they are not already downloaded and placed in the appropriate place, the program will do this for you.  These are in Daisy format and you can use control+P to toggle play and pause.

                               

                                This is a global key command, so as long as the reader is open, it takes presidence over other programs using that key command.  This makes it very handy if you want to practice what you are reading in an open program.  This information should be enough to get you started.

                               

                                Carol

 

                                On 6/8/2017 2:46 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:

 

                                                I downloaded my version of Jaws 18.  How do I git the training modules into FS reader?  tia

 

                               

 

                                                Have a great day!

 

                               

 

                                                Bob Hicks

 

                               

 

                               

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I agree with you, David, 1,000 percent. On one of my jobs, one of the doctors said that I worked in two languages, because I had Braille notes, took Braille short hand, but used my Optacon a lot more than I did Braille.

On that particular job, a requirement was that you had to make any corrections or modifications to reports. There was a blind guy that worked downstairs in Medical Records, and his wife had to do all of his. I worked up in Surgical Pathology. This was in the 70's, when we had multiple carbons, different colors. So, I had to keep those little slips that you use for the carbons and keep up with the colors. I had to carefully roll the typewriter to check with the Optacon about where to make the change. I could do them or would not have kept the job.

There is an Optacon Users List, sporatic traffic. A guy in Canada is trying to develop an Optacon that is more in line with today's technology.

I, for one, think that technology can be a sort of other god to some. For what the Optacon does, I think its technology is state of the art. The only improvement I could suggest would to be to see if the noise it makes could be reduced.

Best From,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Wow!

I still have my Optacon, and I read mail with it.

I read the computer screen with my Optacon,and it went very well. I had a job where I did just that, The Optacon allowed me to feel everything that was on the screen. Wow, that is so great! The Optacon was one of the best assistive technologies ever, in my apinion. It is sad that most blind people do not know what the Optacon is, but I used it to read all of my math and science textbooks, so I could get a degree in math. I could trace all calculus graphs, charts, feel how the equations were set up, and on and on. I could feel, under my finger, what a sighted person sees. That is still so exciting to me. OCR does not compare to the Optacon for small little things that you want to read like a tag on a package, a piece of mail, or read what is on a computer screen. I really wish that someone could bring it back, or a entire community would bring it back. I would be right there, fighting and doing all I could do to bring it back.

Have a great one, guys!

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10



From: Randy Barnett <mailto:randy@soundtique.net>
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules



I too started with a Comadore 64 but I culd still see back then. My first experience with Jaws was v3.7 and have been useing it ever since.
I thought my serial No was old being in the 40,000's. LOL
On 6/9/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Hicks wrote:

Oh my gosh, I still have my Opticon!



Have a great day!



Bob Hicks



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules



I started out with a Commodore 64 using an OPTACON to read the screen in about 1983 or so. Hard to remember back that far.



Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules



I probably have most of you beat, my Jaws serial number is 1056. I first bought Jaws for DOS in 1989, I think it was version 1.1, when Windows 3.1 came out in 19992 I used it alongside DOS.

Jaws for Windows was actually first released in January 1995, it was JFW 1.0 with support for Windows 3.1/3.11 and Windows for Workgroups 3.1.

JFW 2.0 was released in 1996, not sure when, it had support for Windows 95 which was released in August of 1995. Back in those days there usually was not support for a new OS version at the time of release.

I am looking some of this up in a Wikipedia article, for some reason they skip JFW 3.0.

In between, in 1998, 1999 and 2000 we of course had the release of Windows 98, 98SE and Millennium.

Windows XP was first released on August 24, 2001

JFW 4.0 which came out in September 2001 and I am pretty sure it support Windows XP.

JFW 4.5 came out in August of 2002 and it was the first version which had quick nav keys for IE.

JFW 5.0 was October 2003 and then there was a longer gap as JFW 6.0 didn't come out until March 2005, it introduced the ILM licensing scheme.

JFW 7 was released later that same year (2005) and 7.1 is listed with a release date of June 2006.

Windows Vista was released in November of 2006 and I'm pretty sure JFW 8 which was released in November of 2006 had support for it as well as introducing Realspeak Solo voices. From here on it seems to go to the annual release schedule in late October/early November.

Other milestones:

Jaws Tandem was released with Jaws 10 in November 2008

Windows 7 was released in July of 2009 and JFW 11 came out in the fall with support for Windows 7 and it introduced Research It

In 2010 JFW 12 replaced the old configuration manager with the Settings Centre

Jaws 13 in 2011 introduced one of my favourite features, Convenient OCR.

JFW 14 in 2012 came with Windows 8 support and Flexible Web

JFW 15 in 2013 had Windows 8 touch screen support and introduced FS Reader 3.0

JFW 16 in 2014 introduced command search in Settings Centre and Convenient OCR which in V13 only applied to graphics on the screen was expanded to handle entire PDF documents

Windows 10 first was released on July 29, 2015 and an update to Jaws 16 from the previous fall had initial support for it.

JFW 17 in 2015 introduced smart navigation for tables and Liblouis, an open source braille translator

Finally JFW 18 in 2016 (last fall) introduced mouse echo, audio ducking and Settings import/export was reintroduced.



Here is a link to the Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_(screen_reader) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_%28screen_reader%29>



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: training modules



I had an early demo version that was something like 0.76 with a serial in the 3000s.



I should have stock in the company since I have owned every version since DOS, either purchased or through paying for skipped updates.



Tony





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ronnie Hill
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: training modules



Well I can't remember which year I did stgarted with JAWS Version of 3.3!

I guess it was around 1998

I thought that the first JAWS version was started from 3.2 it amazing to know it started from version 3 but I'm not sure.

Cheers everyone.

Ronnie from London.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob Hicks <mailto:bob@seeinghandassociation.com>

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:37 PM

Subject: Re: training modules



Hard to believe I started on JAWS 3.1 isn’t it!



Have a great day!



Bob Hicks



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: training modules



If you open the FS reader, you should be able to access tutorials from there by pressing control+J. There are links to tutorials. If they are not already downloaded and placed in the appropriate place, the program will do this for you. These are in Daisy format and you can use control+P to toggle play and pause.

This is a global key command, so as long as the reader is open, it takes presidence over other programs using that key command. This makes it very handy if you want to practice what you are reading in an open program. This information should be enough to get you started.

Carol

On 6/8/2017 2:46 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:

I downloaded my version of Jaws 18. How do I git the training modules into FS reader? tia



Have a great day!



Bob Hicks


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

David Moore
 

Wow!

I still have my Optacon, and I read mail with it.

I read the computer screen with my Optacon,and it went very well. I had a job where I did just that, The Optacon allowed me to feel everything that was on the screen. Wow, that is so great! The Optacon was one of the best assistive technologies ever, in my apinion. It is sad that most blind people do not know what the Optacon is, but I used it to read all of my math and science textbooks, so I could get a degree in math. I could trace all calculus graphs, charts, feel how the equations were set up, and on and on. I could feel, under my finger, what a sighted person sees. That is still so exciting to me. OCR does not compare to the Optacon for small little things that you want to read like a tag on a package, a piece of mail, or read what is on a computer screen. I really wish that someone could bring it back, or a entire community would bring it back. I would be right there, fighting and doing all I could do to bring it back.

Have a great one, guys!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I too started with a Comadore 64 but I culd still see back then. My first experience with Jaws was v3.7 and have been useing it ever since.
I thought my serial No was old being in the 40,000's. LOL
On 6/9/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Hicks wrote:

Oh my gosh, I still have my Opticon!

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I started out with a Commodore 64 using an OPTACON to read the screen in about 1983 or so.  Hard to remember back that far.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I probably have most of you beat, my Jaws serial number is 1056. I first bought Jaws for DOS in 1989, I think it was version 1.1, when Windows 3.1 came out in 19992 I used it alongside DOS.

Jaws for Windows was actually first released in January 1995, it was JFW 1.0 with support for Windows 3.1/3.11 and Windows for Workgroups 3.1.

JFW 2.0 was released in 1996, not sure when, it had support for Windows 95 which was released in August of 1995. Back in those days there usually was not support for a new OS version at the time of release.

I am looking some of this up in a Wikipedia article, for some reason they skip JFW 3.0.

In between, in 1998, 1999 and 2000 we of course had the release of Windows 98, 98SE and Millennium.

Windows XP was first released on August 24, 2001

JFW 4.0 which came out in September 2001 and I am pretty sure it support Windows XP.

JFW 4.5 came out in August of 2002 and it was the first version which had quick nav keys for IE.

JFW 5.0 was October 2003 and then there was a longer gap as JFW 6.0 didn't come out until March 2005, it introduced the ILM licensing scheme.

JFW 7 was released later that same year (2005) and 7.1 is listed with a release date of June 2006.

Windows Vista was released in November of 2006 and I'm pretty sure JFW 8 which was released in November of 2006 had support for it as well as introducing Realspeak Solo voices. From here on it seems to go to the annual release schedule in late October/early November.

Other milestones:

Jaws Tandem was released with Jaws 10 in November 2008

Windows 7 was released in July of 2009 and JFW 11 came out in the fall with support for Windows 7 and it introduced Research It

In 2010 JFW 12 replaced the old configuration manager with the Settings Centre

Jaws 13 in 2011 introduced one of my favourite features, Convenient OCR.

JFW 14 in 2012 came with Windows 8 support and Flexible Web

JFW 15 in 2013 had Windows 8 touch screen support and introduced FS Reader 3.0

JFW 16 in 2014 introduced command search in Settings Centre and Convenient OCR which in V13 only applied to graphics on the screen was expanded to handle entire PDF documents

Windows 10 first was released on July 29, 2015 and an update to Jaws 16 from the previous fall had initial support for it.

JFW 17 in 2015 introduced smart navigation for tables and Liblouis, an open source braille translator

Finally JFW 18 in 2016 (last fall) introduced mouse echo, audio ducking and Settings import/export was reintroduced.

 

Here is a link to the Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_(screen_reader)

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: training modules

 

I had an early demo version that was something like 0.76 with a serial in the 3000s.

 

I should have stock in the company since I have owned every version since DOS, either purchased or through paying for skipped updates.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ronnie Hill
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: training modules

 

Well I can't remember which year I did stgarted with JAWS Version of 3.3!

I guess it was around 1998

I thought that the first JAWS version was  started from 3.2 it amazing to know it started from version 3 but I'm not sure.

Cheers everyone.

Ronnie from London.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob Hicks

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:37 PM

Subject: Re: training modules

 

Hard to believe I started on JAWS 3.1 isn’t it!

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: training modules

 

If you open the FS reader, you should be able to access tutorials from there by pressing control+J.  There are links to tutorials.  If they are not already downloaded and placed in the appropriate place, the program will do this for you.  These are in Daisy format and you can use control+P to toggle play and pause. 

This is a global key command, so as long as the reader is open, it takes presidence over other programs using that key command.  This makes it very handy if you want to practice what you are reading in an open program.  This information should be enough to get you started. 

Carol

On 6/8/2017 2:46 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:

I downloaded my version of Jaws 18.  How do I git the training modules into FS reader?  tia

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

 

 

 


Re: Word 2016 and JAWS 18

Richard Turner
 

Thanks very much Jerry,
Though on my Windows 10 with Office 365 and Word 2016, one press of f6 got me to the status line. Shift f10 brought up the list but all I had to do was hit the space bar on each item I wanted to check or uncheck.

Works great now.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerry Ellis
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Word 2016 and JAWS 18

Hi,

Let's be a little more precice.

When in the body of the Word document, hit F6 twice to get to the status
line. Hit Shift and F10 to get to the list of choices that you can make
appear or disappear on the status line. Use up and down arrow to find the
one you want to and hit Enter to select or de-select it. Once done hit tab
to say OK.

I hope this helps



Take care,

Gerry Ellis

If you don't know where you're going,
How will you know when you get there?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Word 2016 and JAWS 18

f6 should take you to the status bar so you can add the things you want. It
maybe requires the applications menu to apply the settings.
At 06:56 PM 6/9/2017, you wrote:
I'll have to see if I get your same experience when I upgrade to office
2016 here at home.
Jaws gives me page number and the word count and some other information.
Curious.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 7:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Word 2016 and JAWS 18

At work, I have Jaws 18 and Word 2013 and insert+PageDown tells me the
status bar info like page number, line number, etc.
At home using Word 2016, Jaws 18 Home Use, insert+PageDown gives me the
word count.
Where on Earth would I go to make it tell me the page number at least?
I just went through the Word Verbosity settings with insert+v and
didn't find anything useful.

Thanks for any help,
Richard







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Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

I too started with a Comadore 64 but I culd still see back then. My first experience with Jaws was v3.7 and have been useing it ever since.
I thought my serial No was old being in the 40,000's. LOL

On 6/9/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Hicks wrote:

Oh my gosh, I still have my Opticon!

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I started out with a Commodore 64 using an OPTACON to read the screen in about 1983 or so.  Hard to remember back that far.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I probably have most of you beat, my Jaws serial number is 1056. I first bought Jaws for DOS in 1989, I think it was version 1.1, when Windows 3.1 came out in 19992 I used it alongside DOS.

Jaws for Windows was actually first released in January 1995, it was JFW 1.0 with support for Windows 3.1/3.11 and Windows for Workgroups 3.1.

JFW 2.0 was released in 1996, not sure when, it had support for Windows 95 which was released in August of 1995. Back in those days there usually was not support for a new OS version at the time of release.

I am looking some of this up in a Wikipedia article, for some reason they skip JFW 3.0.

In between, in 1998, 1999 and 2000 we of course had the release of Windows 98, 98SE and Millennium.

Windows XP was first released on August 24, 2001

JFW 4.0 which came out in September 2001 and I am pretty sure it support Windows XP.

JFW 4.5 came out in August of 2002 and it was the first version which had quick nav keys for IE.

JFW 5.0 was October 2003 and then there was a longer gap as JFW 6.0 didn't come out until March 2005, it introduced the ILM licensing scheme.

JFW 7 was released later that same year (2005) and 7.1 is listed with a release date of June 2006.

Windows Vista was released in November of 2006 and I'm pretty sure JFW 8 which was released in November of 2006 had support for it as well as introducing Realspeak Solo voices. From here on it seems to go to the annual release schedule in late October/early November.

Other milestones:

Jaws Tandem was released with Jaws 10 in November 2008

Windows 7 was released in July of 2009 and JFW 11 came out in the fall with support for Windows 7 and it introduced Research It

In 2010 JFW 12 replaced the old configuration manager with the Settings Centre

Jaws 13 in 2011 introduced one of my favourite features, Convenient OCR.

JFW 14 in 2012 came with Windows 8 support and Flexible Web

JFW 15 in 2013 had Windows 8 touch screen support and introduced FS Reader 3.0

JFW 16 in 2014 introduced command search in Settings Centre and Convenient OCR which in V13 only applied to graphics on the screen was expanded to handle entire PDF documents

Windows 10 first was released on July 29, 2015 and an update to Jaws 16 from the previous fall had initial support for it.

JFW 17 in 2015 introduced smart navigation for tables and Liblouis, an open source braille translator

Finally JFW 18 in 2016 (last fall) introduced mouse echo, audio ducking and Settings import/export was reintroduced.

 

Here is a link to the Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_(screen_reader)

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: training modules

 

I had an early demo version that was something like 0.76 with a serial in the 3000s.

 

I should have stock in the company since I have owned every version since DOS, either purchased or through paying for skipped updates.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ronnie Hill
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: training modules

 

Well I can't remember which year I did stgarted with JAWS Version of 3.3!

I guess it was around 1998

I thought that the first JAWS version was  started from 3.2 it amazing to know it started from version 3 but I'm not sure.

Cheers everyone.

Ronnie from London.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob Hicks

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:37 PM

Subject: Re: training modules

 

Hard to believe I started on JAWS 3.1 isn’t it!

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: training modules

 

If you open the FS reader, you should be able to access tutorials from there by pressing control+J.  There are links to tutorials.  If they are not already downloaded and placed in the appropriate place, the program will do this for you.  These are in Daisy format and you can use control+P to toggle play and pause. 

This is a global key command, so as long as the reader is open, it takes presidence over other programs using that key command.  This makes it very handy if you want to practice what you are reading in an open program.  This information should be enough to get you started. 

Carol

On 6/8/2017 2:46 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:

I downloaded my version of Jaws 18.  How do I git the training modules into FS reader?  tia

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

 



Re: Word 2016 and JAWS 18

Gerry Ellis <gerry.ellis@...>
 

Hi,

Let's be a little more precice.

When in the body of the Word document, hit F6 twice to get to the status
line. Hit Shift and F10 to get to the list of choices that you can make
appear or disappear on the status line. Use up and down arrow to find the
one you want to and hit Enter to select or de-select it. Once done hit tab
to say OK.

I hope this helps



Take care,

Gerry Ellis

If you don't know where you're going,
How will you know when you get there?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Word 2016 and JAWS 18

f6 should take you to the status bar so you can add the things you want. It
maybe requires the applications menu to apply the settings.
At 06:56 PM 6/9/2017, you wrote:
I'll have to see if I get your same experience when I upgrade to office
2016 here at home.
Jaws gives me page number and the word count and some other information.
Curious.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 7:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Word 2016 and JAWS 18

At work, I have Jaws 18 and Word 2013 and insert+PageDown tells me the
status bar info like page number, line number, etc.
At home using Word 2016, Jaws 18 Home Use, insert+PageDown gives me the
word count.
Where on Earth would I go to make it tell me the page number at least?
I just went through the Word Verbosity settings with insert+v and
didn't find anything useful.

Thanks for any help,
Richard







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