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Re: I found The voice that speaks cell coordinates in Excel
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
No need to wonder. Tutor and Message Voice is an option in Voice Adjustment, and is easy to check or change.
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Ted Ted
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kane Brolin Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 9:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: I found The voice that speaks cell coordinates in Excel Shannon: Just to prevent future frustration: The first word on "tutor message voice" is spelled t u d o r, not t o o t e r, as in toot toot. More like "My child was struggling in math, so we got him a tutor." Spelling this correctly will assist you or others on the list as you attempt to get more information about this feature. I don't mean this as a point of embarrassment, but am just attempting to clarify. Kind regards, -Kane
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Re: I found The voice that speaks cell coordinates in Excel
Shannon
Kane,
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You are right. Smile I was not paying attention and was too excited to have found the answer. It is the tutor message voice. Now to find out exactly what this thing is telling me, and if other voices/cursers can reach the same information as well.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kane Brolin Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: I found The voice that speaks cell coordinates in Excel Shannon: Just to prevent future frustration: The first word on "tutor message voice" is spelled t u d o r, not t o o t e r, as in toot toot. More like "My child was struggling in math, so we got him a tutor." Spelling this correctly will assist you or others on the list as you attempt to get more information about this feature. I don't mean this as a point of embarrassment, but am just attempting to clarify. Kind regards, -Kane
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Re: Jaws at startup
Mario
I think the entry would remain but it should be disabled.
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From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:ted.lisle@...] Sent: Wednesday, Jun 7, 2017 9:06 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws at startup I would have thought that disabling the startup feature would remove the line from Msconfig. I've always found that extremely useful. In the old days, I always made sure the screen reader was enabled in Autoexec. Ted Ted -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws at startup If I don't have Jaws running at the log in screen or at startup is there any reason to leave Jaws enabled in the start up group of Msconfig? Thanks
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Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it?
Mario
you could press insert+f2, type s until JAWS says Settings Center and
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press enter, or you can press insert+numrow 6.
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From: Phil Cox [mailto:pdcox@...] Sent: Wednesday, Jun 7, 2017 7:45 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Hello Dale I have tried your suggestion but it seems that I do not have Quick settings loading for the Excel program. I get the General one with Touch screen settings to start with instead. Does anyone know how to get the Excel setting loded by a different method? TIA, Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Alton To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 9:46 PM Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it? For number 2 go into verbosity with a "jaws key+v", tab e once then press the letter "c" twice this should put you on cell verbosity. Then press the spacebar for content only and press enter. HTH Denver Dale From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 1:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Hi all, I use spread sheets every single day. I have opened an excel sheet and when I am arrowing through it I am hearing things that are just…. Yucky! 1 there is this annoying voice that speaks the cell coordinates. I have futzed around with the voices so what I don’t know is which one of the voices is doing this. It is the same one that says the status of a message in Outlook un-read, forwarded and replied. And gives the erroneous indexes of the messages. (for some reason it always gives x of 44.) 2 I don’t like hearing the contents and then the cell coordinates after. I want to reverse the order. How can I do that? 3 How to make the entire first row column headers and have it only report when I change columns? I don’t want to hear it when I stay in the same column. Thanks Shannon
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Re: Jaws with Taleo
James Homuth
I
haven't seen the HR side of this program, but if it's anything like the
potential employee side, you should have no problem. The parts of the platform
I've had experience with are web-based and very
accessible.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of DAN REID Sent: June-07-17 9:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws with Taleo Greetings, Are there any scripts or suggestions when using the Taleo program? I am in need of suggestions/help as I need to use this program for my Hr role for screening/hiring. Any help would be appreciated. I can be contacted by work email at: Dan.reid@... Many thanks in advance, Dan Reid dan reid
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Re: I found The voice that speaks cell coordinates in Excel
Kane Brolin
Shannon:
Just to prevent future frustration: The first word on "tutor message voice" is spelled t u d o r, not t o o t e r, as in toot toot. More like "My child was struggling in math, so we got him a tutor." Spelling this correctly will assist you or others on the list as you attempt to get more information about this feature. I don't mean this as a point of embarrassment, but am just attempting to clarify. Kind regards, -Kane
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Jaws with Taleo
DAN REID
Greetings, Are there any scripts or suggestions when using the Taleo program? I am in need of suggestions/help as I need to use this program for my Hr role for screening/hiring. Any help would be appreciated. I can be contacted by work email at: Dan.reid@... Many thanks in advance, Dan Reid
dan reid
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Re: Jaws at startup
James Homuth
I don't think you'll do any harm by leaving JAWS in MSConfig. If memory
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serves, I'm pretty sure Windows puts every program in there whether it needs to be there or not. Because JAWS starts as a service when you set it to start automatically, I actually wonder if in that case it doesn't bypass MSConfig altogether anyway. Of course I've not tested that theory, so your milage may vary.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) Sent: June-07-17 9:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws at startup I would have thought that disabling the startup feature would remove the line from Msconfig. I've always found that extremely useful. In the old days, I always made sure the screen reader was enabled in Autoexec. Ted Ted -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws at startup If I don't have Jaws running at the log in screen or at startup is there any reason to leave Jaws enabled in the start up group of Msconfig? Thanks
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Visual Studio 2013 Express and JAWS 18
Paul Hunt <prhunt1@...>
Hello everybody. I would like to learn asp.net which is a compiled language. Visual Studio Express 2013 is free. Is it accessible? Are their alternatives.
Thanks so much.
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Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it?
Phil Cox <pdcox@...>
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Hello Dale
I have tried your suggestion but it seems that I do
not have Quick settings loading for the Excel program. I get the General one
with Touch screen settings to start with instead. Does anyone know how to get
the Excel setting loded by a different method?
TIA, Phil
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I found The voice that speaks cell coordinates in Excel
Shannon
Mario,
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I found it!!! The curser/voice that is saying that stuff like the Un-read, forwarded, replied and the cell coordinates is the Tooter Message voice. Funny I thought I had turned that off but... obviously I didn't. Being set to a different voice is choppy, at best. I'll try to change it to match the PC curser voice and see if that gets smoother. Can you turn it off? If you do What else do you lose? Shannon
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 7:44 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it? although I don't hear a different voice when coordinates are read when navigating amung the cells using my copy of Excel, and from your mentioning that the voice that announces cell coordinates is the same one that says the status of a message in Outlook, I'm guessing it is either Glenn if it is a slightly higher pitch voice or it might be Rocko if the voice is a deeper voice. -------- Original Message -------- From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@...] Sent: Tuesday, Jun 6, 2017 4:29 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Mario, Do you know the answer to number 1? Which voice is it that is saying the coordinates? Thanks Shannon -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 3:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it? I'd be interested in the answer to #2 also; how to reverse the announcement of the cell contents followed by the coordinates. -------- Original Message -------- From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@...] Sent: Tuesday, Jun 6, 2017 3:04 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Hi all, I use spread sheets every single day. I have opened an excel sheet and when I am arrowing through it I am hearing things that are just…. Yucky! 1 there is this annoying voice that speaks the cell coordinates. I have futzed around with the voices so what I don’t know is which one of the voices is doing this. It is the same one that says the status of a message in Outlook un-read, forwarded and replied. And gives the erroneous indexes of the messages. (for some reason it always gives x of 44.) 2 I don’t like hearing the contents and then the cell coordinates after. I want to reverse the order. How can I do that? 3 How to make the entire first row column headers and have it only report when I change columns? I don’t want to hear it when I stay in the same column. Thanks Shannon .
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Re: Jaws at startup
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
I would have thought that disabling the startup feature would remove the line from Msconfig. I've always found that extremely useful. In the old days, I always made sure the screen reader was enabled in Autoexec.
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Ted Ted
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws at startup If I don't have Jaws running at the log in screen or at startup is there any reason to leave Jaws enabled in the start up group of Msconfig? Thanks
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Jaws at startup
Don H
If I don't have Jaws running at the log in screen or at startup is there any reason to leave Jaws enabled in the start up group of Msconfig?
Thanks
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Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it?
Shannon
Dale, Yes that will do just what you said but I don’t want that. I want to hear the coordinates before the contents and the only choices are contents no coordinates or contents with coordinates. Unless this is a separate verbosity setting? Thanks Shannon
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 8:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it?
For number 2 go into verbosity with a "jaws key+v", tab e once then press the letter "c" twice this should put you on cell verbosity. Then press the spacebar for content only and press enter. HTH
Denver Dale
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Hi all, I use spread sheets every single day. I have opened an excel sheet and when I am arrowing through it I am hearing things that are just…. Yucky! 1 there is this annoying voice that speaks the cell coordinates.
I have futzed around with the voices so what I don’t know is which one of the voices is doing this. It is the same one that says the status of a message in Outlook un-read, forwarded and replied. And gives the erroneous indexes of the messages. (for some reason it always gives x of 44.) 2 I don’t like hearing the contents and then the cell coordinates after. I want to reverse the order. How can I do that? 3 How to make the entire first row column headers and have it only report when I change columns? I don’t want to hear it when I stay in the same column. Thanks Shannon
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Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it?
Shannon
Mario,
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I have fiddled around with all of the voices. I don't remember which curser voiceI assigned to what?. I also can't remember how to change it. I thought some of you users would know which curser voice says what? Maybe I should go back to factory defaults? But I don't know how to do that unless I uninstall and reinstall. But if I do that don't I have a problem with licensing? All of your cursers use the same voice? JAWS is a bit confusing with all the cursers. Thanks Shannon
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 7:44 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it? although I don't hear a different voice when coordinates are read when navigating amung the cells using my copy of Excel, and from your mentioning that the voice that announces cell coordinates is the same one that says the status of a message in Outlook, I'm guessing it is either Glenn if it is a slightly higher pitch voice or it might be Rocko if the voice is a deeper voice. -------- Original Message -------- From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@...] Sent: Tuesday, Jun 6, 2017 4:29 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Mario, Do you know the answer to number 1? Which voice is it that is saying the coordinates? Thanks Shannon -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 3:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it? I'd be interested in the answer to #2 also; how to reverse the announcement of the cell contents followed by the coordinates. -------- Original Message -------- From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@...] Sent: Tuesday, Jun 6, 2017 3:04 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Hi all, I use spread sheets every single day. I have opened an excel sheet and when I am arrowing through it I am hearing things that are just…. Yucky! 1 there is this annoying voice that speaks the cell coordinates. I have futzed around with the voices so what I don’t know is which one of the voices is doing this. It is the same one that says the status of a message in Outlook un-read, forwarded and replied. And gives the erroneous indexes of the messages. (for some reason it always gives x of 44.) 2 I don’t like hearing the contents and then the cell coordinates after. I want to reverse the order. How can I do that? 3 How to make the entire first row column headers and have it only report when I change columns? I don’t want to hear it when I stay in the same column. Thanks Shannon .
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cannot install latest web visum firefox 52
marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
Hi, when I login into webvisum, and then click the install press alt a a couple of times, but I do not hear the install screen. Just goes back to the install link. Any one got any ideas, how to get around this. Thanks. Or another capture solution which is free, need to use this, trying to contact amazon aws educate and they don’t have a audio option, only the image, and webvisum is not working. Any ideas. Thanks.
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Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it?
Dale Alton <blinkydale@...>
For number 2 go into verbosity with a "jaws key+v", tab e once then press the letter "c" twice this should put you on cell verbosity. Then press the spacebar for content only and press enter. HTH
Denver Dale
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 1:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it?
Hi all, I use spread sheets every single day. I have opened an excel sheet and when I am arrowing through it I am hearing things that are just…. Yucky! 1 there is this annoying voice that speaks the cell coordinates.
I have futzed around with the voices so what I don’t know is which one of the voices is doing this. It is the same one that says the status of a message in Outlook un-read, forwarded and replied. And gives the erroneous indexes of the messages. (for some reason it always gives x of 44.) 2 I don’t like hearing the contents and then the cell coordinates after. I want to reverse the order. How can I do that? 3 How to make the entire first row column headers and have it only report when I change columns? I don’t want to hear it when I stay in the same column. Thanks Shannon
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Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it?
Mario
although I don't hear a different voice when coordinates are read when
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navigating amung the cells using my copy of Excel, and from your mentioning that the voice that announces cell coordinates is the same one that says the status of a message in Outlook, I'm guessing it is either Glenn if it is a slightly higher pitch voice or it might be Rocko if the voice is a deeper voice.
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From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@...] Sent: Tuesday, Jun 6, 2017 4:29 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Mario, Do you know the answer to number 1? Which voice is it that is saying the coordinates? Thanks Shannon -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 3:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it? I'd be interested in the answer to #2 also; how to reverse the announcement of the cell contents followed by the coordinates. -------- Original Message -------- From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@...] Sent: Tuesday, Jun 6, 2017 3:04 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Hi all, I use spread sheets every single day. I have opened an excel sheet and when I am arrowing through it I am hearing things that are just…. Yucky! 1 there is this annoying voice that speaks the cell coordinates. I have futzed around with the voices so what I don’t know is which one of the voices is doing this. It is the same one that says the status of a message in Outlook un-read, forwarded and replied. And gives the erroneous indexes of the messages. (for some reason it always gives x of 44.) 2 I don’t like hearing the contents and then the cell coordinates after. I want to reverse the order. How can I do that? 3 How to make the entire first row column headers and have it only report when I change columns? I don’t want to hear it when I stay in the same column. Thanks Shannon .
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Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it?
Mario
correction, Ted mentioned the use of a template, not me.
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From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...] Sent: Tuesday, Jun 6, 2017 7:25 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Shannon, I sent you a message off list with a template attached with the title row predefined at a1 on all 4 worksheets in the workbook. However, I made the mistake of saving it after doing sheet 4. So, when you open it, it opens to sheet 4. If you choose to use it, you will need to open that template file in Excel and move up to sheet 1 and save it again. Sorry about that. Mario’s suggestion of creating a template works perfectly. Richard From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 1:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Thanks, Where will that information be placed Title then heading, Contents then coordinates or will it append to the end contents, coordinates, then column heading? With the column heading on will I still have to listen to the contents then the coordinates? I just read the Popular applications portion of the documentation. Unless someone does chime in and tell me/us we are wrong there are only two options Cell Verbosity This option controls whether to announce both cell content and coordinates or only cell content as cells are navigated. The default setting is to announce both cell content and coordinates. I just don’t like that. I want to know where I am first then what is in the cell. That is another reason to use the column headings or titles. This may be my first feature request. This section also mentions something about document settings. This may be where that title section can be done for documents that are similar in naming Workbook Settings This option controls whether workbook settings are set for the settings file to be an exact match of the current file name, or a best match for the current file name. The default is exact match. What do you think? Would this hold on to the Jaws setting for column and row titles? Thanks again Shannon From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 3:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Yes, you have to do that for each Spreadsheet, unless someone with more experience knows how to make that universal. I can’t find anything that would allow yu to change the order of the cell contents and coordinates. I find it hard to believe that is true. Maybe someone will chime in with the place to find that setting. Richard From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 12:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Richard, Thank you, Do I have to do this for every spread sheet.? I want to hear the coordenants before the contents not after. I want to hear A2, meadows plaza not Meadows plaza A2 I looked around and found the spot to turn off the coordinates but not how to reverse the order of what is spoken. Is this one of the advanced settings of the verbosity settings? Thanks again Shannon From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 2:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it? I can help you with the column headers, but I’m not sure why my coordinates speak after the data. To set the column headers to read the way you want do the following: One, Go to a1 and tap the alt key to bring up the upper ribbon and arrow to the formulas tab. 2. down arrow to the lower ribbon and right arrow to the Define Names tab. 3. Hit enter. 4. Hit alt+n to create a new name. 5. Write the word “title” without the quotes and hit enter. 6. tab to the close button and hit spacebar. Now, when you arrow down a column, it will speak the contents of the cell, but if you right arrow or tab, you will hear the column title. As you down arrow, you will also hear the row title. I hope that helps, Richard From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 12:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it? Hi all, I use spread sheets every single day. I have opened an excel sheet and when I am arrowing through it I am hearing things that are just…. Yucky! 1 there is this annoying voice that speaks the cell coordinates. I have futzed around with the voices so what I don’t know is which one of the voices is doing this. It is the same one that says the status of a message in Outlook un-read, forwarded and replied. And gives the erroneous indexes of the messages. (for some reason it always gives x of 44.) 2 I don’t like hearing the contents and then the cell coordinates after. I want to reverse the order. How can I do that? 3 How to make the entire first row column headers and have it only report when I change columns? I don’t want to hear it when I stay in the same column. Thanks Shannon
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Re: Can't close programs or shut down computer/Help please?
Gene Stevens
If you are using windows 10 try this...
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1. Hit the windows key. 2. Tab till you hear Navigation menu. 3. Down arrow till you hear Power, then hit enter. Now down arrow till you hear either shut down or restart and hit enter.
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From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 6:47 PM Subject: Re: Can't close programs or shut down computer/Help please? Good, and the tips given here give me encouragement that
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