----- Original Message -----

From: Dale Alton

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 9:46 PM

Subject: Re: Excel bothers me How to customize it?

For number 2 go into verbosity with a "jaws key+v", tab e once then press the letter "c" twice this should put you on cell verbosity.  Then press the spacebar for content only and press enter.

HTH

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 1:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel bothers me How to customize it?

 

Hi all,

I use spread sheets every single day.

I have opened an excel sheet and when I am arrowing through it I am hearing things that are just…. Yucky!

1                     there is this annoying voice that speaks the cell coordinates.

 

I have futzed around with the voices so what I don’t know is which one of the voices is doing this.  It is the same one that says the status of a message in Outlook un-read, forwarded and replied.  And gives the erroneous indexes of the messages. (for some reason it always gives x of 44.)

2                     I don’t like hearing the contents and then the cell coordinates after.

I want to reverse the order. How can I do that?

3      How to make the entire first row  column headers and have it only report when I change columns? I don’t want to hear it when I stay in the same column.

Thanks

Shannon

For number 2 go into verbosity with a "jaws key+v", tab e once then press the letter "c" twice this should put you on cell verbosity.  Then press the spacebar for content only and press enter.

HTH

Good, and the tips given here give me encouragement that
maybe it won't be that bad in the future.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can't close programs or shut down computer/Help
please?

Carolyn,

I did get help from others on this list. I shut down those
programs through the task bar and then was able to shut down
the computer correctly. When I turned it on this morning
everything seems to be working as it should ......
Fingers crossed (smile). Thanks for your support.

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can't close programs or shut down computer/Help
please?

I hope you get help, Laura. So far, when that happens to me,
I call on my husband if in the room, otherwise, Windows X,
U, U. That is not the greatest thing, but what else can I
do, when I get stuck like a bee in a spider web.

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 11:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Can't close programs or shut down computer/Help
please?

Hello,



Using Windows 10, MS Word 2016 and Jaws 18 .. Pressing alt
plus f4 will not allow me to close Outlook and will not
allow me to shut down the computer.
Can anybody help?



Laura

Thanks,

Where will that information be placed Title then heading, Contents then coordinates or will it append to the end contents, coordinates, then column heading?

With the column heading on will I still have to listen to the contents then the coordinates?

I just read the  Popular applications  portion of the documentation.

Unless someone  does chime in and tell me/us we are wrong there are only two options

Cell Verbosity

This option controls whether to announce both cell content and coordinates or only cell content as cells are navigated. The default setting is to announce both cell content and coordinates.

I just don’t like that. I want to know where I am first then what is in the cell. That is another reason to use the column headings or titles.

This may be my first feature request.

This section also mentions something about document settings. This may be where that title section can be done for documents that are similar in naming

Workbook Settings

This option controls whether workbook settings are set for the settings file to be an exact match of the current file name, or a best match for the current file name. The default is exact match.

What do you think? Would this hold on to the Jaws setting for column and row titles?

Thanks again

Shannon

Yes, you have to do that for each Spreadsheet, unless someone with more experience knows how to make that universal.

I can’t find anything that would allow yu to change the order of the cell contents and coordinates.

I find it hard to believe that is true.

Maybe someone will chime in with the place to find that setting.

Richard

Richard,

Thank you, Do I have to do this for every spread sheet.?

I want to hear the coordenants before the contents not after. I want to hear A2, meadows plaza not Meadows plaza A2

I looked around and found the spot to turn off the coordinates but not how to reverse the order of what is spoken. Is this one of the advanced settings of the verbosity settings?

Thanks again

Shannon

I can help you with the column headers, but I’m not sure why my coordinates speak after the data.

To set the column headers to read the way you want do the following:

One, Go to a1 and tap the alt key to bring up the upper ribbon and arrow to the formulas tab.

2.  down arrow to the lower ribbon and right arrow to the Define Names tab.

3.  Hit enter.

4.  Hit alt+n to create a new name.

5.  Write the word “title” without the quotes and hit enter.

6.  tab to the close button and hit spacebar.

Now, when you arrow down a column, it will speak the contents of the cell, but if you right arrow or tab, you will hear the column title.  As you down arrow, you will also hear the row title.

I hope that helps,

Richard