Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
May I interject? If I understand correctly, what you’re describing is default behavior. There are minor tweaks you can make (for instance the function of the two insert keys), and the type of keyboard you’re using—desktop, laptop, Kenesis (See the startup menu under Help).
There’s a lot you can do, but there’s no need to swallow the whole load in one sitting. Read the included documentation, and play around with the various features. There’s no reason this can’t be fun.
Ted
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of andy.tidwell
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
Hello Shannon, like I told Kevin I knew this was there but I have never played with it I downloaded the other voices but have never tried them either I need to but when you work 16 hours a day it takes a tole on you but I was glad I could help you.
From: Shannon Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:06 PM Subject: Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
Yes, this is exactly what I wanted to know. I use the T arrow keys all the time just to check out the text I am on or up and down but often need access to that mouse too. So separating these is very cool otherwise I have to constantly keep checking and or changing the perspective of the information. Kevin just posted another observation. He said that separating the keys still uses the Jaws voice to report is that true? I haven’t made the change yet. All these cursers and voices are cool but sort of confusing. At the moment I have played with the pc voice and it is different from all the other choices. In fact they are all different from each other. I thought it might be easier to tell “Who” is giving feedback. I am sort of confused by why this voice is being used and that one is not? Example in Outlook. I am arrowing up and down through the list of messages. I used Nathan as the PC voice but when I get to a message I have not read yet the Keyboard voice Alison is reporting the status of Unread? And she is also telling me the index of the item at the very last of each message even if the message has been read? I don’t understand that. So if Kevin is right and the T arrow keys are going to review at the PC level they are going to talk with the JAWS voice who I have set to Samantha?
So this is still going to get confusing?
Thanks Shannon From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of andy.tidwell
Yes you can separate the extended keys from the numpad keys using jaws. You first need to open the jaws settings sinter by pressing the jaws key plus the number 6 at the same time and then if you want to make this the default, press control shift and the letter d at the same time. Then go down until you hear jaws say, keyboard closed, then right arrow to open it, then go down until you hear jaws say separate extended keys from numpad and press space bar to check it. there may be quite a few settings in the settings sinter you may want to change, if you don’t understand what something means just press the tab key and jaws will explain it to you. When you are dun just press alt f4 to get out of it and then press the space bar to save your settings. I hope this helps, if someone knows another way please let me know. I hope this is what you wanted to know.
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
I believe you can set the cursor you want and then turn on the numlock for numbers. When you are ready to change your Jaws keys, turn off the numpad. On 6/2/2017 10:31 AM, Shannon wrote:
Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him? Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?
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Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
Kevin Minor
Hi again.
This is strange. In the in box of Outlook 2016, when I activate the JAWS cursor and use the extended arrow keys to navigate, the JAWS cursor voice is heard. If I open a message and read it with the extended arrow keys, all is well.
Now for the really weird part. If I reply to a message and have the AWS cursor active, I can’t read the message I’m typing. If I switch to the PC cursor all works well. I’m using Outlook 2016. Go figure.
Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.
Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY
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Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
andy.tidwell
Hello Shannon, like I told Kevin I knew this was there but I have never
played with it I downloaded the other voices
but have never tried them either I need to but when you work 16 hours a day
it takes a tole on you but I was glad I
could help you.
From: Shannon
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number
pad? Yes, this is exactly what I wanted to know. I use the T arrow keys all the time just to check out the text I am on or up and down but often need access to that mouse too. So separating these is very cool otherwise I have to constantly keep checking and or changing the perspective of the information. Kevin just posted another observation. He said that separating the keys still uses the Jaws voice to report is that true? I haven’t made the change yet. All these cursers and voices are cool but sort of confusing. At the moment I have played with the pc voice and it is different from all the other choices. In fact they are all different from each other. I thought it might be easier to tell “Who” is giving feedback. I am sort of confused by why this voice is being used and that one is not? Example in Outlook. I am arrowing up and down through the list of messages. I used Nathan as the PC voice but when I get to a message I have not read yet the Keyboard voice Alison is reporting the status of Unread? And she is also telling me the index of the item at the very last of each message even if the message has been read? I don’t understand that. So if Kevin is right and the T arrow keys are going to review at the PC level they are going to talk with the JAWS voice who I have set to Samantha?
So this is still going to get confusing?
Thanks Shannon From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
andy.tidwell
Yes you can separate the extended keys from the numpad keys using jaws. You first need to open the jaws settings sinter by pressing the jaws key plus the number 6 at the same time and then if you want to make this the default, press control shift and the letter d at the same time. Then go down until you hear jaws say, keyboard closed, then right arrow to open it, then go down until you hear jaws say separate extended keys from numpad and press space bar to check it. there may be quite a few settings in the settings sinter you may want to change, if you don’t understand what something means just press the tab key and jaws will explain it to you. When you are dun just press alt f4 to get out of it and then press the space bar to save your settings. I hope this helps, if someone knows another way please let me know. I hope this is what you wanted to know.
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 10:49 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
I believe you can set the cursor you want and then turn
on the numlock for numbers. When you are ready to change your Jaws keys,
turn off the numpad. On 6/2/2017 10:31 AM, Shannon wrote:
Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him? Jesus dyed
for us, why can't we live for him?
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Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
andy.tidwell
Hello Kevin I didn’t know about the jaws voice I never used this feature
myself but I knew it was there, I am glad I
could finally help someone, thanks for your feedback.
From: Kevin
Minor
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number
pad? Hi.
Thanks for the info on how to set the extended keys to operate independent of the numpad. My only complaint is that if I choose the JAWS cursor, when I use the extended arrow keys, the voice for the JAWS cursor is used. Oh well, at least the feature works.
Thanks for the info.
Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard. Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY Jesus dyed
for us, why can't we live for him?
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Re: JAWS &T M I
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Under Settings center, fifth item down. Each verbosity level can be customized. Once you choose the one you want, tab over and start cursoring down, if you want to tweak.
Ted
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS &T M I
Pardon me, but, how do you change the verbosity? Is it in the voice menu? If not where.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Dave...
Adjust your verbosity settings.
Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: David & his pack of dogs Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 08:18 Subject: JAWS &T M I
How do I limit the information JAWS gives me? Here is what happens. I do a spell-checker before sending out an email and JAWS reads out all options. Not in dictionary, U S dictionary, add to dictionary, ignore, ignore all, change, auto correct, options, close. I just need to know it is incorrectly spelled or any grammatical errors and possible word choices. Not everything else.
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Re: JAWS &T M I
David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
Pardon me, but, how do you change the verbosity? Is it in the voice menu? If not where.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 8:21 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS &T M I
Adjust your verbosity settings.
Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: David & his pack of dogs Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 08:18 Subject: JAWS &T M I
How do I limit the information JAWS gives me? Here is what happens. I do a spell-checker before sending out an email and JAWS reads out all options. Not in dictionary, U S dictionary, add to dictionary, ignore, ignore all, change, auto correct, options, close. I just need to know it is incorrectly spelled or any grammatical errors and possible word choices. Not everything else.
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Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
Shannon
Yes, this is exactly what I wanted to know. I use the T arrow keys all the time just to check out the text I am on or up and down but often need access to that mouse too. So separating these is very cool otherwise I have to constantly keep checking and or changing the perspective of the information. Kevin just posted another observation. He said that separating the keys still uses the Jaws voice to report is that true? I haven’t made the change yet. All these cursers and voices are cool but sort of confusing. At the moment I have played with the pc voice and it is different from all the other choices. In fact they are all different from each other. I thought it might be easier to tell “Who” is giving feedback. I am sort of confused by why this voice is being used and that one is not? Example in Outlook. I am arrowing up and down through the list of messages. I used Nathan as the PC voice but when I get to a message I have not read yet the Keyboard voice Alison is reporting the status of Unread? And she is also telling me the index of the item at the very last of each message even if the message has been read? I don’t understand that. So if Kevin is right and the T arrow keys are going to review at the PC level they are going to talk with the JAWS voice who I have set to Samantha?
So this is still going to get confusing?
Thanks Shannon
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of andy.tidwell
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:40 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
Yes you can separate the extended keys from the numpad keys using jaws. You first need to open the jaws settings sinter by pressing the jaws key plus the number 6 at the same time and then if you want to make this the default, press control shift and the letter d at the same time. Then go down until you hear jaws say, keyboard closed, then right arrow to open it, then go down until you hear jaws say separate extended keys from numpad and press space bar to check it. there may be quite a few settings in the settings sinter you may want to change, if you don’t understand what something means just press the tab key and jaws will explain it to you. When you are dun just press alt f4 to get out of it and then press the space bar to save your settings. I hope this helps, if someone knows another way please let me know. I hope this is what you wanted to know.
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 10:49 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
I believe you can set the cursor you want and then turn on the numlock for numbers. When you are ready to change your Jaws keys, turn off the numpad. On 6/2/2017 10:31 AM, Shannon wrote:
Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?
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Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
Kevin Minor
Hi.
Thanks for the info on how to set the extended keys to operate independent of the numpad. My only complaint is that if I choose the JAWS cursor, when I use the extended arrow keys, the voice for the JAWS cursor is used. Oh well, at least the feature works.
Thanks for the info.
Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard. Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY
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Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
andy.tidwell
Yes you can separate the extended keys from the numpad keys using
jaws.
You first need to open the jaws settings sinter by pressing the jaws key
plus the number 6 at the same time and then
if you want to make this the default, press control shift and the letter d
at the same time.
Then go down until you hear jaws say, keyboard closed, then right arrow to
open it, then go down until
you hear jaws say separate extended keys from numpad and press space bar to
check it.
there may be quite a few settings in the settings sinter you may want to
change, if you don’t understand what something means just press the tab key and
jaws will explain it to you.
When you are dun just press alt f4 to get out of it and then press the
space bar to save your settings.
I hope this helps, if someone knows another way please let me know. I hope
this is what you wanted to know.
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number
pad? I
believe you can set the cursor you want and then turn on the numlock for
numbers. When you are ready to change your Jaws keys, turn off the
numpad.
Carol On 6/2/2017 10:31 AM, Shannon wrote:
Jesus dyed
for us, why can't we live for him?
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Re: JAWS &T M I
Dave...
Adjust your verbosity settings.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: David &
his pack of dogs
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 08:18
Subject: JAWS &T M I How do I limit the information JAWS gives me? Here is what happens. I do a spell-checker before sending out an email and JAWS reads out all options. Not in dictionary, U S dictionary, add to dictionary, ignore, ignore all, change, auto correct, options, close. I just need to know it is incorrectly spelled or any grammatical errors and possible word choices. Not everything else.
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JAWS &T M I
David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
How do I limit the information JAWS gives me? Here is what happens. I do a spell-checker before sending out an email and JAWS reads out all options. Not in dictionary, U S dictionary, add to dictionary, ignore, ignore all, change, auto correct, options, close. I just need to know it is incorrectly spelled or any grammatical errors and possible word choices. Not everything else.
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Re: On Line Banking Update
David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
Nothing wrong with asking for help from the sighted community from time to time. When applying to get a guide dog, you need character references. One of mine said the one sense that she would be terrified of losing is her sight. She could live with being deaf but, loosing her sight would be terrifying. What’s my point? Some sighted are more then willing to help. You just must be careful it is not for the wrong reasons, and that, is a Pandora’s box which this is not the forum for.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 7:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: On Line Bankingg Update
Hello Shannon, I wrote to the help line on the site, first I received an instruction to insure I pressed the confirmation button. Then I replied that it was not coming up and that I was using a screen reader. I was told that the issue was probably particular to my software, and was left to my own devices, so I wrote to the technical help address on the site, and during our email exchange I offered to come into the branch laptop in tow. Actually all I really needed was sighted assistance to report the account selection box that JAWS did not. The best advice I could give after this is to use the insert control and L for list, T for table, B for button etc., And sadly, sighted assistance when you are stuck. Cheers Kevin.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Hi Kevin, I've been watching the saga. I'm glad you figured out the problem, but how did you solve it? I have issues finding controlthings on my banking site as well. Just wondering what the tricks and tips are. Thanks Shannon
Hello All, Problem solved; when I pressed the “Pay Bills” button a little box came up asking if it was to come from checking or savings, which JAWS did not recognize. Cheers Kevin
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Re: Speeding up the JAWS starting time?
Alyssa <lyssassong@...>
I have noticed JAWS can be slowed down by other programs starting at start-up. If you have another screen reader starting too, that could be a problem. Some antivirus programs slow it as well, and some printer software .can too.
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Re: On Line Banking Update
Shannon
Thanks for the update, So if that is not reported by JAWS how do you know that it is there without another pair of eyes? Are you still left on your own to wait? Or did this lesson teach you how to find the account choice area so that doesn’t happen and be able to complete the transaction? Thanks Shannon
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: On Line Bankingg Update
Hello Shannon, I wrote to the help line on the site, first I received an instruction to insure I pressed the confirmation button. Then I replied that it was not coming up and that I was using a screen reader. I was told that the issue was probably particular to my software, and was left to my own devices, so I wrote to the technical help address on the site, and during our email exchange I offered to come into the branch laptop in tow. Actually all I really needed was sighted assistance to report the account selection box that JAWS did not. The best advice I could give after this is to use the insert control and L for list, T for table, B for button etc., And sadly, sighted assistance when you are stuck. Cheers Kevin.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Hi Kevin, I've been watching the saga. I'm glad you figured out the problem, but how did you solve it? I have issues finding controlthings on my banking site as well. Just wondering what the tricks and tips are. Thanks Shannon
Hello All, Problem solved; when I pressed the “Pay Bills” button a little box came up asking if it was to come from checking or savings, which JAWS did not recognize. Cheers Kevin
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Re: Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
Carol Smith
I believe you can set the cursor you want and then turn on the
numlock for numbers. When you are ready to change your Jaws keys,
turn off the numpad.
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Carol
On 6/2/2017 10:31 AM, Shannon wrote:
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Re: Speeding up the JAWS starting time?
David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
Are you talking about an SSD? Or something else. Please enlighten me.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Heltzer
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 6:16 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Speeding up the JAWS starting time?
Get a solid-state drive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
I got a slight scare earlier this morning. I restarted the computer and there was no JAWS starting up. NVDA started up on the login screen but then went silent. JAWS finally came on. My question is, is there anyway to get it to come on quicker? Honestly, I could have drank a cup of coffee waiting for JAWS to start speaking.
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Re: Driver update utility which is useable with JAWS
Gene Stevens
Ok... it's been a while since I used Windows 7. So tell me how you get that it is using the FS driver as the quote default display driver?
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I can't remember the Windows 7 device manager well enough to be sure but on Windows 10 doesn't have a 1uote default driver that I can find. It simply lists the FS driver and the driver for the video hardware currently in use.
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From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 8:39 AM Subject: Re: Driver update utility which is useable with JAWS Hello David:
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Re: On Line Bankingg Update
Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
Hello Shannon, I wrote to the help line on the site, first I received an instruction to insure I pressed the confirmation button. Then I replied that it was not coming up and that I was using a screen reader. I was told that the issue was probably particular to my software, and was left to my own devices, so I wrote to the technical help address on the site, and during our email exchange I offered to come into the branch laptop in tow. Actually all I really needed was sighted assistance to report the account selection box that JAWS did not. The best advice I could give after this is to use the insert control and L for list, T for table, B for button etc., And sadly, sighted assistance when you are stuck. Cheers Kevin.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: June 1, 2017 7:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: On Line Bankingg Update
Hi Kevin, I've been watching the saga. I'm glad you figured out the problem, but how did you solve it? I have issues finding controlthings on my banking site as well. Just wondering what the tricks and tips are. Thanks Shannon
Hello All, Problem solved; when I pressed the “Pay Bills” button a little box came up asking if it was to come from checking or savings, which JAWS did not recognize. Cheers Kevin
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Re: Speeding up the JAWS starting time?
David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
Thanks Melissa. Because my sister gave me the computer on loan, and it had to be reserected twice from the blue screen, my first thought was it’s died. Not a good thing when you have a remote scheduled in 9 hours and it all happens in the wee hours of the morning, think I have to cut back on the coffee. LOL.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 2:35 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Speeding up the JAWS starting time?
I don’t think that there is a way to speed up start time for Jaws. I’ve had this happen to me also. There were times when I didn’t think that Jaws was going to start.
Melissa
From: David & his pack of dogs
I got a slight scare earlier this morning. I restarted the computer and there was no JAWS starting up. NVDA started up on the login screen but then went silent. JAWS finally came on. My question is, is there anyway to get it to come on quicker? Honestly, I could have drank a cup of coffee waiting for JAWS to start speaking.
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Can I separate the arrow keys from the number pad?
Shannon
Hello, I would like to know if I can separate the arrow keys from the number pad? I want the PC curser and the virtual pc curser to use the inverted T arrow keys and have the various JAWS curser, Invisible curser, and the Touch curser to use the number pad keys. Can I do that and if so how do I do it? Thanks Shannon
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