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Re: 5th time - to unsubscribe

David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
 

I have to agree.  Perhaps Russel just sent the message and has ignored or just not read the kind directions. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 5th time - to unsubscribe

 

I might suggest that the moderator simply remove him.  Although the links are there, Russel is either not interested, or as with me, I have lost track of my password and would need to ask the moderator anyway. 

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 5th time - to unsbscribe

 

For Heaven’s sake, read the bottom of the mesage—any message!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Russell Staley
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: 5th time - to unsbscribe

 

PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE ME ON THIS MAILING LIST


Re: 5th time - to unsubscribe

Tim Ford
 

I might suggest that the moderator simply remove him.  Although the links are there, Russel is either not interested, or as with me, I have lost track of my password and would need to ask the moderator anyway. 

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 5th time - to unsbscribe

 

For Heaven’s sake, read the bottom of the mesage—any message!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Russell Staley
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: 5th time - to unsbscribe

 

PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE ME ON THIS MAILING LIST


Re: Statistical Software

Tim Ford
 

Hi Brian,

 

Very good points, especially when the JAWS user does not have someone else paying for the SPSS license.  An office However, an employer would presumably cover the cost, and probably already have such a license.  If this is a small employer, the state vocational rehabilitation agency could pick up the cost, and most critically, the cost of providing specific/focused JAWS training on use of that SPSS.  In office situations, it is usually frowned upon to ask to use open source alternative software; the tech folks get very nervous, and for good reason.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 6:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Statistical Software

 

I'm not pooh-poohing SPSS, but the issue arises even if it's 100% accessible someone's going to have to pay to license it, and those fees were, at least way back when I was using it (several decades ago), not insubstantial.

That's why I suggest folks take a look at PSPP first.  It's very well thought of and it may be accessible, though I can't state that for sure.  But it costs you nothing but a bit of time to check out and determine whether it's accessible and, if so, just how accessible.  You can also use it anywhere at no charge, which at least can be a big bonus.
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.332

 
If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker


Re: Newby

David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
 

You are both ahead of me because I have heard the term "scripts" but, have
no idea what it is all about.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Newby

Hi Vic,

You are ahead of me as I have not used scripting! I am a medical
transcriptionist and have not needed to script anything as of yet.

Hope all is going well for you,

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Newby

Hi Lee Anne,

You are so right. I have found the training materials to be fantastic. I
haven't gotten into the help much yet. I have started reading the Basics of
Scripting, though.

I do have one question now. I want the home key to speak the current
character when I am in any kind of an editing situation. I found the
jawsHome script and added a check for the caret and told it to speak the
character if the caret was present. It works everywhere I have found except
in Outlook 2010. Was there an easier way to accomplish this? Why doesn't it
work in Outlook?


Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Newby

Hi Vic,

Welcome! The only silly question is the one you don't ask. The JAWS help
topics are very helpful and this list even more so.

Good luck with learning JAWS.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Newby

Hello,

I am a new convert from the debunked Window-Eyes screen reader. I am trying
to learn JAWS as quickly as possible. I may ask some very silly questions. I
hope you will bear with me during this process. Thanks in advance for any
help.


Vic Beckley


Re: Newby

Lee Anne Atkinson
 

Hi Vic,

You are ahead of me as I have not used scripting! I am a medical
transcriptionist and have not needed to script anything as of yet.

Hope all is going well for you,

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Newby

Hi Lee Anne,

You are so right. I have found the training materials to be fantastic. I
haven't gotten into the help much yet. I have started reading the Basics of
Scripting, though.

I do have one question now. I want the home key to speak the current
character when I am in any kind of an editing situation. I found the
jawsHome script and added a check for the caret and told it to speak the
character if the caret was present. It works everywhere I have found except
in Outlook 2010. Was there an easier way to accomplish this? Why doesn't it
work in Outlook?


Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Newby

Hi Vic,

Welcome! The only silly question is the one you don't ask. The JAWS help
topics are very helpful and this list even more so.

Good luck with learning JAWS.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Newby

Hello,

I am a new convert from the debunked Window-Eyes screen reader. I am trying
to learn JAWS as quickly as possible. I may ask some very silly questions. I
hope you will bear with me during this process. Thanks in advance for any
help.


Vic Beckley


Re: On Line Banking

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

No I did not, but have now, with no success.
All the other buttons do what they are supposed to do when pressed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: May 31, 2017 9:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Hi, Kevin. I'm sure you already tried this, but have you tried using JAWS
Key plus Escape to refresh your screen, once you have submitted your
information to the banking site?

Sometimes, even though the page has refreshed in the browser, JAWS doesn't
see the new page unless this is done.

Also, once you have submitted your information to the site, and the new page
doesn't come up, have you tried doing an F5 to refresh the browser's page?

I don't know if either of these will work, but I'd feel remiss if one of
them would have worked, and I hadn't mentioned them.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

No luck,thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: May 31, 2017 5:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Try a control and enter on that button as this works on my banking site at
timesg

On May 30, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
wrote:

Hi,
I have been entering it manually, with a dollar sign, and tried it
without
a dollar sign as you suggest, but still no go.
Thank you,
Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
andy.tidwell
Sent: May 30, 2017 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Hello Kevin I wonder if what happened to you is what I ran in to last
week
with my bank while trying to pay a bill.
I copied and pasted the amount from one sight in to the pay to field
on my
bank's web sight and it kept kicking me out and saying invalid entry. I
finally had to erase everything out of the pay to field and manually inter
it with no dollar sign and then it went through with no problem.
That may not be your problem but I just thought I would tell you my
mishap
in hopes maybe it will help.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

It is "Island Savings Credit Union", and everything else about the
site
has been quite navigable.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David & his pack of dogs
Sent: May 30, 2017 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Kevin, there is a lot to be said about what one of the mods said,
"What
banking institution are you using." The banking institution I use is not a
main stream bank. More like a co-op type bank. So, it was not as cut and
dried to start using online banking with them. Thankfully they mnade it
more accessible for the blind. In the beginning, you had to click on
pictures to get into the banking. Such as the question was what was the
address of your first house? They'd have a picture of a house and you'd
have to enter the answer. Fat lot of good that did for someone who is
blind. That was part of their security questions. Now it is a lot easier,
especially if I remember to use firefox when doing online banking. All
other things, I use I E or firefox. Which ever is the easiest. I've not yet
mastered copying listen live radio station shortcuts on my desktop with
firefox to then, paste into a folder.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Sorry that was supposed to be shift + + to activate the touch cursor
On
5/30/2017 5:00 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
did you try the Jaws cursor? and the shift + On 5/30/2017 4:52 PM,
Kevin Hourigan wrote:
No ad blocker.
The pass through, insert 3, did nothing.
Insert plus space bar and left mouse nothing, And I cannot remember
the toggle for the touch cursor.
Thank you for all of your suggestions.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: May 30, 2017 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

are you useing a add on that will block java scripts. like no script.
many pa+ activates the touch cursor
ge control buttons like continue, submit etc. will not activate if
the java scripts are blocked.
are you useing a ad blocker? if so try turning off for your banking
page.

if the confirmation is a pop up it could also be the firefox popup
blocker. try turning this off to see if the page loads.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: On Line Banking



Greetings Group,

I am attempting to make a payment on line from my banking site.
After entering the information in the appropriate fields I exit the
table and arrow down to a pay bills button. When I press space bar
or enter on that button the cursor returns to the amount edit field
in the payments table, and the people at the bank tell me I should
be getting a confirmation page instead. They indicated that it is a
technical issue due to my screen reader.

Any suggestions, please?

Jaws 18, Windows 10, IE, all latest build

Thank you,

Kevin.





















Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?








Re: On Line Banking

David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
 

We have 2 Island savings here and I found them very helpful especially when it came to business insurance. But, still have all of my bank accounts with Coast capitol. They too were very helpful when I got locked out of my accounts via online banking, twice.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Out of all the people on this list from all over the world?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: May 30, 2017 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Well, that's a coincidence because I use Coast Capitol a derivative of Island savings.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

It is "Island Savings Credit Union", and everything else about the site has been quite navigable.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: May 30, 2017 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Kevin, there is a lot to be said about what one of the mods said, "What banking institution are you using." The banking institution I use is not a main stream bank. More like a co-op type bank. So, it was not as cut and dried to start using online banking with them. Thankfully they mnade it more accessible for the blind. In the beginning, you had to click on pictures to get into the banking. Such as the question was what was the address of your first house? They'd have a picture of a house and you'd have to enter the answer. Fat lot of good that did for someone who is blind. That was part of their security questions. Now it is a lot easier, especially if I remember to use firefox when doing online banking. All other things, I use I E or firefox. Which ever is the easiest. I've not yet mastered copying listen live radio station shortcuts on my desktop with firefox to then, paste into a folder.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Sorry that was supposed to be shift + + to activate the touch cursor On
5/30/2017 5:00 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
did you try the Jaws cursor? and the shift + On 5/30/2017 4:52 PM,
Kevin Hourigan wrote:
No ad blocker.
The pass through, insert 3, did nothing.
Insert plus space bar and left mouse nothing, And I cannot remember
the toggle for the touch cursor.
Thank you for all of your suggestions.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: May 30, 2017 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

are you useing a add on that will block java scripts. like no script.
many pa+ activates the touch cursor
ge control buttons like continue, submit etc. will not activate if
the java scripts are blocked.
are you useing a ad blocker? if so try turning off for your banking
page.

if the confirmation is a pop up it could also be the firefox popup
blocker. try turning this off to see if the page loads.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: On Line Banking



Greetings Group,

I am attempting to make a payment on line from my banking site. After
entering the information in the appropriate fields I exit the table
and arrow down to a pay bills button. When I press space bar or enter
on that button the cursor returns to the amount edit field in the
payments table, and the people at the bank tell me I should be
getting a confirmation page instead. They indicated that it is a
technical issue due to my screen reader.

Any suggestions, please?

Jaws 18, Windows 10, IE, all latest build

Thank you,

Kevin.











Re: using insert f11 to read system tray

Don H
 

There are definitely numerous ways to get the info from the system tray. The fact that insert F11 not reading all items in the system tray really isn't a major issue but I think it is always a good idea to report all bugs no matter how small.

On 5/31/2017 11:29 AM, john.falter wrote:
You might try windows key plus B
On 5/31/2017 12:22 PM, Don H wrote:
I am one of those chosen that only get two items listed in the system tray when using insert F11 to read the system tray. I reported this issue to FS and I gust finished a tandem session with them. The Tech was able to see that indeed the insert F11 function was not working as it should on my system. He said he would report the issue to the next level as it is definitely not working as it should.



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Re: On Line Banking

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Kevin. I'm sure you already tried this, but have you tried using JAWS
Key plus Escape to refresh your screen, once you have submitted your
information to the banking site?

Sometimes, even though the page has refreshed in the browser, JAWS doesn't
see the new page unless this is done.

Also, once you have submitted your information to the site, and the new page
doesn't come up, have you tried doing an F5 to refresh the browser's page?

I don't know if either of these will work, but I'd feel remiss if one of
them would have worked, and I hadn't mentioned them.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

No luck,thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: May 31, 2017 5:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Try a control and enter on that button as this works on my banking site at
timesg

On May 30, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
wrote:

Hi,
I have been entering it manually, with a dollar sign, and tried it without
a dollar sign as you suggest, but still no go.
Thank you,
Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
andy.tidwell
Sent: May 30, 2017 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Hello Kevin I wonder if what happened to you is what I ran in to last week
with my bank while trying to pay a bill.
I copied and pasted the amount from one sight in to the pay to field on my
bank's web sight and it kept kicking me out and saying invalid entry. I
finally had to erase everything out of the pay to field and manually inter
it with no dollar sign and then it went through with no problem.
That may not be your problem but I just thought I would tell you my mishap
in hopes maybe it will help.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

It is "Island Savings Credit Union", and everything else about the site
has been quite navigable.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David & his pack of dogs
Sent: May 30, 2017 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Kevin, there is a lot to be said about what one of the mods said, "What
banking institution are you using." The banking institution I use is not a
main stream bank. More like a co-op type bank. So, it was not as cut and
dried to start using online banking with them. Thankfully they mnade it
more accessible for the blind. In the beginning, you had to click on
pictures to get into the banking. Such as the question was what was the
address of your first house? They'd have a picture of a house and you'd
have to enter the answer. Fat lot of good that did for someone who is
blind. That was part of their security questions. Now it is a lot easier,
especially if I remember to use firefox when doing online banking. All
other things, I use I E or firefox. Which ever is the easiest. I've not yet
mastered copying listen live radio station shortcuts on my desktop with
firefox to then, paste into a folder.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Sorry that was supposed to be shift + + to activate the touch cursor
On
5/30/2017 5:00 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
did you try the Jaws cursor? and the shift + On 5/30/2017 4:52 PM,
Kevin Hourigan wrote:
No ad blocker.
The pass through, insert 3, did nothing.
Insert plus space bar and left mouse nothing, And I cannot remember
the toggle for the touch cursor.
Thank you for all of your suggestions.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: May 30, 2017 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

are you useing a add on that will block java scripts. like no script.
many pa+ activates the touch cursor
ge control buttons like continue, submit etc. will not activate if
the java scripts are blocked.
are you useing a ad blocker? if so try turning off for your banking
page.

if the confirmation is a pop up it could also be the firefox popup
blocker. try turning this off to see if the page loads.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: On Line Banking



Greetings Group,

I am attempting to make a payment on line from my banking site.
After entering the information in the appropriate fields I exit the
table and arrow down to a pay bills button. When I press space bar
or enter on that button the cursor returns to the amount edit field
in the payments table, and the people at the bank tell me I should
be getting a confirmation page instead. They indicated that it is a
technical issue due to my screen reader.

Any suggestions, please?

Jaws 18, Windows 10, IE, all latest build

Thank you,

Kevin.





















Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?








Re: using insert f11 to read system tray

john.falter
 

You might try windows key plus B


On 5/31/2017 12:22 PM, Don H wrote:
I am one of those chosen that only get two items listed in the system tray when using insert F11 to read the system tray.  I reported this issue to FS and I gust finished a tandem session with them.  The Tech was able to see that indeed the insert F11 function was not working as it should on my system.  He said he would report the issue to the next level as it is definitely not working as it should.






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using insert f11 to read system tray

Don H
 

I am one of those chosen that only get two items listed in the system tray when using insert F11 to read the system tray. I reported this issue to FS and I gust finished a tandem session with them. The Tech was able to see that indeed the insert F11 function was not working as it should on my system. He said he would report the issue to the next level as it is definitely not working as it should.


Re: On Line Banking

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Out of all the people on this list from all over the world?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: May 30, 2017 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Well, that's a coincidence because I use Coast Capitol a derivative of Island savings.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

It is "Island Savings Credit Union", and everything else about the site has been quite navigable.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: May 30, 2017 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Kevin, there is a lot to be said about what one of the mods said, "What banking institution are you using." The banking institution I use is not a main stream bank. More like a co-op type bank. So, it was not as cut and dried to start using online banking with them. Thankfully they mnade it more accessible for the blind. In the beginning, you had to click on pictures to get into the banking. Such as the question was what was the address of your first house? They'd have a picture of a house and you'd have to enter the answer. Fat lot of good that did for someone who is blind. That was part of their security questions. Now it is a lot easier, especially if I remember to use firefox when doing online banking. All other things, I use I E or firefox. Which ever is the easiest. I've not yet mastered copying listen live radio station shortcuts on my desktop with firefox to then, paste into a folder.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Sorry that was supposed to be shift + + to activate the touch cursor On
5/30/2017 5:00 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
did you try the Jaws cursor? and the shift + On 5/30/2017 4:52 PM,
Kevin Hourigan wrote:
No ad blocker.
The pass through, insert 3, did nothing.
Insert plus space bar and left mouse nothing, And I cannot remember
the toggle for the touch cursor.
Thank you for all of your suggestions.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: May 30, 2017 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

are you useing a add on that will block java scripts. like no script.
many pa+ activates the touch cursor
ge control buttons like continue, submit etc. will not activate if
the java scripts are blocked.
are you useing a ad blocker? if so try turning off for your banking
page.

if the confirmation is a pop up it could also be the firefox popup
blocker. try turning this off to see if the page loads.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: On Line Banking



Greetings Group,

I am attempting to make a payment on line from my banking site. After
entering the information in the appropriate fields I exit the table
and arrow down to a pay bills button. When I press space bar or enter
on that button the cursor returns to the amount edit field in the
payments table, and the people at the bank tell me I should be
getting a confirmation page instead. They indicated that it is a
technical issue due to my screen reader.

Any suggestions, please?

Jaws 18, Windows 10, IE, all latest build

Thank you,

Kevin.











Re: On Line Banking

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

No luck,thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: May 31, 2017 5:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Try a control and enter on that button as this works on my banking site at
timesg

On May 30, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
wrote:

Hi,
I have been entering it manually, with a dollar sign, and tried it without
a dollar sign as you suggest, but still no go.
Thank you,
Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
andy.tidwell
Sent: May 30, 2017 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Hello Kevin I wonder if what happened to you is what I ran in to last week
with my bank while trying to pay a bill.
I copied and pasted the amount from one sight in to the pay to field on my
bank's web sight and it kept kicking me out and saying invalid entry. I
finally had to erase everything out of the pay to field and manually inter
it with no dollar sign and then it went through with no problem.
That may not be your problem but I just thought I would tell you my mishap
in hopes maybe it will help.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

It is "Island Savings Credit Union", and everything else about the site
has been quite navigable.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David & his pack of dogs
Sent: May 30, 2017 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Kevin, there is a lot to be said about what one of the mods said, "What
banking institution are you using." The banking institution I use is not a
main stream bank. More like a co-op type bank. So, it was not as cut and
dried to start using online banking with them. Thankfully they mnade it
more accessible for the blind. In the beginning, you had to click on
pictures to get into the banking. Such as the question was what was the
address of your first house? They'd have a picture of a house and you'd
have to enter the answer. Fat lot of good that did for someone who is
blind. That was part of their security questions. Now it is a lot easier,
especially if I remember to use firefox when doing online banking. All
other things, I use I E or firefox. Which ever is the easiest. I've not yet
mastered copying listen live radio station shortcuts on my desktop with
firefox to then, paste into a folder.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Sorry that was supposed to be shift + + to activate the touch cursor
On
5/30/2017 5:00 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
did you try the Jaws cursor? and the shift + On 5/30/2017 4:52 PM,
Kevin Hourigan wrote:
No ad blocker.
The pass through, insert 3, did nothing.
Insert plus space bar and left mouse nothing, And I cannot remember
the toggle for the touch cursor.
Thank you for all of your suggestions.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: May 30, 2017 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

are you useing a add on that will block java scripts. like no script.
many pa+ activates the touch cursor
ge control buttons like continue, submit etc. will not activate if
the java scripts are blocked.
are you useing a ad blocker? if so try turning off for your banking
page.

if the confirmation is a pop up it could also be the firefox popup
blocker. try turning this off to see if the page loads.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: On Line Banking



Greetings Group,

I am attempting to make a payment on line from my banking site.
After entering the information in the appropriate fields I exit the
table and arrow down to a pay bills button. When I press space bar
or enter on that button the cursor returns to the amount edit field
in the payments table, and the people at the bank tell me I should
be getting a confirmation page instead. They indicated that it is a
technical issue due to my screen reader.

Any suggestions, please?

Jaws 18, Windows 10, IE, all latest build

Thank you,

Kevin.





















Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?








Re: On Line Banking

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Agreed!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: May 30, 2017 7:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

I think it is time to toddle into your bank and let them figure it out. After all that's what they are there for.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Hi,
I have been entering it manually, with a dollar sign, and tried it without a dollar sign as you suggest, but still no go.
Thank you,
Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of andy.tidwell
Sent: May 30, 2017 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Hello Kevin I wonder if what happened to you is what I ran in to last week with my bank while trying to pay a bill.
I copied and pasted the amount from one sight in to the pay to field on my bank's web sight and it kept kicking me out and saying invalid entry. I finally had to erase everything out of the pay to field and manually inter it with no dollar sign and then it went through with no problem.
That may not be your problem but I just thought I would tell you my mishap in hopes maybe it will help.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

It is "Island Savings Credit Union", and everything else about the site has been quite navigable.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: May 30, 2017 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Kevin, there is a lot to be said about what one of the mods said, "What banking institution are you using." The banking institution I use is not a main stream bank. More like a co-op type bank. So, it was not as cut and dried to start using online banking with them. Thankfully they mnade it more accessible for the blind. In the beginning, you had to click on pictures to get into the banking. Such as the question was what was the address of your first house? They'd have a picture of a house and you'd have to enter the answer. Fat lot of good that did for someone who is blind. That was part of their security questions. Now it is a lot easier, especially if I remember to use firefox when doing online banking. All other things, I use I E or firefox. Which ever is the easiest. I've not yet mastered copying listen live radio station shortcuts on my desktop with firefox to then, paste into a folder.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Sorry that was supposed to be shift + + to activate the touch cursor On
5/30/2017 5:00 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
did you try the Jaws cursor? and the shift + On 5/30/2017 4:52 PM,
Kevin Hourigan wrote:
No ad blocker.
The pass through, insert 3, did nothing.
Insert plus space bar and left mouse nothing, And I cannot remember
the toggle for the touch cursor.
Thank you for all of your suggestions.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: May 30, 2017 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

are you useing a add on that will block java scripts. like no script.
many pa+ activates the touch cursor
ge control buttons like continue, submit etc. will not activate if
the java scripts are blocked.
are you useing a ad blocker? if so try turning off for your banking
page.

if the confirmation is a pop up it could also be the firefox popup
blocker. try turning this off to see if the page loads.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: On Line Banking



Greetings Group,

I am attempting to make a payment on line from my banking site. After
entering the information in the appropriate fields I exit the table
and arrow down to a pay bills button. When I press space bar or enter
on that button the cursor returns to the amount edit field in the
payments table, and the people at the bank tell me I should be
getting a confirmation page instead. They indicated that it is a
technical issue due to my screen reader.

Any suggestions, please?

Jaws 18, Windows 10, IE, all latest build

Thank you,

Kevin.





















Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?


Re: Statistical Software

 

I'm not pooh-poohing SPSS, but the issue arises even if it's 100% accessible someone's going to have to pay to license it, and those fees were, at least way back when I was using it (several decades ago), not insubstantial.

That's why I suggest folks take a look at PSPP first.  It's very well thought of and it may be accessible, though I can't state that for sure.  But it costs you nothing but a bit of time to check out and determine whether it's accessible and, if so, just how accessible.  You can also use it anywhere at no charge, which at least can be a big bonus.
--
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Re: 5th time - to unsbscribe

 


On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 05:51 am, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:
For Heaven’s sake, read the bottom of the mesage—any message!

And that serves a useful purpose for knowing about a lot more than just unsubscribing.

For the sake of completeness, the unsubscribe address is:  main+unsubscribe@jfw.groups.io 

If you want to get a message back detailing everything you can control via e-mail, including unsubscribing, send a message to:  main+help@jfw.groups.io 
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what is wrong with access 2016

Pablo Morales
 

Hi guys,

I have used access several times for several years. However I am finding that in access 2016 I am finding a lot of accessibility issues. Even reading controls, or navigating. I am wondering if is there any kind of configuration that I need to modify?

Thanks in advance,

 


Re: 5th time - to unsbscribe

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

For Heaven’s sake, read the bottom of the mesage—any message!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Russell Staley
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: 5th time - to unsbscribe

 

PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE ME ON THIS MAILING LIST


Re: On Line Banking

Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
 

Try a control and enter on that button as this works on my banking site at timesg

On May 30, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...> wrote:

Hi,
I have been entering it manually, with a dollar sign, and tried it without a dollar sign as you suggest, but still no go.
Thank you,
Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of andy.tidwell
Sent: May 30, 2017 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Hello Kevin I wonder if what happened to you is what I ran in to last week with my bank while trying to pay a bill.
I copied and pasted the amount from one sight in to the pay to field on my bank's web sight and it kept kicking me out and saying invalid entry. I finally had to erase everything out of the pay to field and manually inter it with no dollar sign and then it went through with no problem.
That may not be your problem but I just thought I would tell you my mishap in hopes maybe it will help.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

It is "Island Savings Credit Union", and everything else about the site has been quite navigable.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: May 30, 2017 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Kevin, there is a lot to be said about what one of the mods said, "What banking institution are you using." The banking institution I use is not a main stream bank. More like a co-op type bank. So, it was not as cut and dried to start using online banking with them. Thankfully they mnade it more accessible for the blind. In the beginning, you had to click on pictures to get into the banking. Such as the question was what was the address of your first house? They'd have a picture of a house and you'd have to enter the answer. Fat lot of good that did for someone who is blind. That was part of their security questions. Now it is a lot easier, especially if I remember to use firefox when doing online banking. All other things, I use I E or firefox. Which ever is the easiest. I've not yet mastered copying listen live radio station shortcuts on my desktop with firefox to then, paste into a folder.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

Sorry that was supposed to be shift + + to activate the touch cursor On
5/30/2017 5:00 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
did you try the Jaws cursor? and the shift + On 5/30/2017 4:52 PM,
Kevin Hourigan wrote:
No ad blocker.
The pass through, insert 3, did nothing.
Insert plus space bar and left mouse nothing, And I cannot remember
the toggle for the touch cursor.
Thank you for all of your suggestions.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: May 30, 2017 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking

are you useing a add on that will block java scripts. like no script.
many pa+ activates the touch cursor
ge control buttons like continue, submit etc. will not activate if
the java scripts are blocked.
are you useing a ad blocker? if so try turning off for your banking
page.

if the confirmation is a pop up it could also be the firefox popup
blocker. try turning this off to see if the page loads.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: On Line Banking



Greetings Group,

I am attempting to make a payment on line from my banking site. After
entering the information in the appropriate fields I exit the table
and arrow down to a pay bills button. When I press space bar or enter
on that button the cursor returns to the amount edit field in the
payments table, and the people at the bank tell me I should be
getting a confirmation page instead. They indicated that it is a
technical issue due to my screen reader.

Any suggestions, please?

Jaws 18, Windows 10, IE, all latest build

Thank you,

Kevin.





















Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?








Re: Statistical Software

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I agree.  During my DisplayWrite days,  I found their support to  be platinum—couldn’t have asked for better.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Statistical Software

 

I would check with IBM.  They claim otherwise, and if your experience is several years old, there is probably a huge difference.  If not, IBM makes it clear that they consider SPSS accessibility a priority, and if it were me, I would give them the chance.  Have them work on any problems.  Have good training materials.  If we give up on companies before they get religion and try harder, then we are cutting off our own potential opportunities. 

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alyssa
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Statistical Software

 

Unfortunately SPSS is not accessible. I was supposed to use it a few years back for grad school. Even with scripts, it did not play well with JAWS.

 

 

-Alyssa

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Statistical Software

 

Hello Miranda,

 

You may want to check out this web page

Accessibility of IBM SPSS

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel

 

Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Statistical Software

 

Miranda,

         You should certainly take a look at PSPP, which is the open-source alternative to IBM's proprietary SPSS.  And, of course, check out whether the organization you'll be working for/with has licensed access to SPSS.
--
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