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Re: 5th time - to unsbscribe
Stephanie Switzer
Please check the links at the bottom of just about any message sent to the list. One of them should say "to unsubscribe from this list. Send an email to..." please send an email to the address listed. If you do that you shall have success i believe. :) Sent from my iPhone
On May 30, 2017, at 11:00 PM, Russell Staley <bstaley@...> wrote:
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Re: Windows update screen
Randy Barnett <randy@...>
in the Windows update window press shift + + to switch to the touch cursor then left and right arrow to read the contents of the window.
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On 5/30/2017 8:35 PM, Bill White wrote:
I believe this is because it's a screen full of controls. Have you tried the touch cursor to navigate from control to control?
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Re: On Line Banking
Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
Hi Chris,
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I have auto forms mode turned off, so I hear the pop when I press enter to turn it on when in the edit field. Also the figure is entered automatically in a total funds box at the bottom of the table before I get to the pay bills button. I found a contact for tech support at the bank so hopefully they will come up with something. Cheers Kevin.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin Sent: May 30, 2017 6:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: On Line Banking It might not be seeing what you entered into the amount field for some reason, and that is why it is taking you back to that edit field on the page. This has happened to me on a couple of sites I use at work. For this, I go back to a prior form element like combo box, edit field, etc., make sure forms mode is turned on, then tab to the edit field I was having problems with and enter the information. Once the information is entered, I tab to the button and hit the space bar. This has worked for me. Not sure this is your problem, but worth giving it a try. Chris On May 30, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com>wrote: has been quite navigable. banking institution are you using." The banking institution I use is not a main stream bank. More like a co-op type bank. So, it was not as cut and dried to start using online banking with them. Thankfully they mnade it more accessible for the blind. In the beginning, you had to click on pictures to get into the banking. Such as the question was what was the address of your first house? They'd have a picture of a house and you'd have to enter the answer. Fat lot of good that did for someone who is blind. That was part of their security questions. Now it is a lot easier, especially if I remember to use firefox when doing online banking. All other things, I use I E or firefox. Which ever is the easiest. I've not yet mastered copying listen live radio station shortcuts on my desktop with firefox to then, paste into a folder.
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Re: Statistical Software
Tim Ford
Oops, I went just from the Bing search results and assumed. Here are a couple more on point. I assume that either on these pages or via a separate search one could track down the IBM real people behind their alleged accessibility emphasis. -.
optimizing the use of a screen reader with IBM® SPSS® Modeler
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Tim, IBM SPSS Statistics V23 continues to increase accessibility to advanced analytics through new ways to analyze data--
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5th time - to unsbscribe
Russell Staley <bstaley@...>
PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE ME ON THIS MAILING LIST
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Re: Windows update screen
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Hi Bill,
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Thanks for the reminder, I use the Touch cursor, but it's not as much part of my muscle memory as is the Jaws and PC cursor. You are correct, however, it does read things a bit better and if, for example, you go to Windows Defender you only get a few options using tab, but with the touch cursor it reads the version of virus definitions, malware definitions etc. Regards, Sieghard
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows update screen I believe this is because it's a screen full of controls. Have you tried the touch cursor to navigate from control to control? Bill White Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Windows update screen I am finding that neither Window Eyes, NVDA or Jaws will read the screen for the windows update. Here is what I do. Hit the start button and in the edit box type windows update and hit enter. The next screen has a button for checking for updates as well as a lot of other info. I can tab through some of the items but I can find no way to read the screen line by line with the arrow keys or mouse keys. Why is this screen so difficult to read?
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Re: Windows update screen
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
In Windows 10 this is one area where you get the best results with Narrator.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows update screen Hi, If you have Windows 10 and if you're talking about what I think you're talking about, then JAWS cursor won't work there, as the way to retrieve screen content is very different. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:19 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows update screen I can read the screen line by line with the JAWS cursor, but that's about it. Otherwise it's tab all the way. As for why, that's a question for the ages and would be a mighty fine topic if we had one or two MS employees on-list. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H Sent: May-30-17 10:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Windows update screen I am finding that neither Window Eyes, NVDA or Jaws will read the screen for the windows update. Here is what I do. Hit the start button and in the edit box type windows update and hit enter. The next screen has a button for checking for updates as well as a lot of other info. I can tab through some of the items but I can find no way to read the screen line by line with the arrow keys or mouse keys. Why is this screen so difficult to read?
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Re: Windows update screen
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
I believe this is because it's a screen full of controls. Have you tried the touch cursor to navigate from control to control?
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Bill White Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Windows update screen I am finding that neither Window Eyes, NVDA or Jaws will read the screen for the windows update. Here is what I do. Hit the start button and in the edit box type windows update and hit enter. The next screen has a button for checking for updates as well as a lot of other info. I can tab through some of the items but I can find no way to read the screen line by line with the arrow keys or mouse keys. Why is this screen so difficult to read?
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Re: Statistical Software
Tim,
For the sake of clarity, the title on the page you linked to is: IBM SPSS Statistics V23 continues to increase accessibility to advanced analytics through new ways to analyze data
-- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.332
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Re: Windows update screen
Soronel Haetir
Also, make sure you have the window maximized as without that even tab
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won't see everything it can. This is true for pretty much all windows 10 control panel windows (actually I believe that dates back to win8).
On 5/30/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: On Line Banking
David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
I think it is time to toddle into your bank and let them figure it out. After all that's what they are there for.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: On Line Banking Hi, I have been entering it manually, with a dollar sign, and tried it without a dollar sign as you suggest, but still no go. Thank you, Kevin. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of andy.tidwell Sent: May 30, 2017 6:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: On Line Banking Hello Kevin I wonder if what happened to you is what I ran in to last week with my bank while trying to pay a bill. I copied and pasted the amount from one sight in to the pay to field on my bank's web sight and it kept kicking me out and saying invalid entry. I finally had to erase everything out of the pay to field and manually inter it with no dollar sign and then it went through with no problem. That may not be your problem but I just thought I would tell you my mishap in hopes maybe it will help. -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Hourigan Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: On Line Banking It is "Island Savings Credit Union", and everything else about the site has been quite navigable. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs Sent: May 30, 2017 5:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: On Line Banking Kevin, there is a lot to be said about what one of the mods said, "What banking institution are you using." The banking institution I use is not a main stream bank. More like a co-op type bank. So, it was not as cut and dried to start using online banking with them. Thankfully they mnade it more accessible for the blind. In the beginning, you had to click on pictures to get into the banking. Such as the question was what was the address of your first house? They'd have a picture of a house and you'd have to enter the answer. Fat lot of good that did for someone who is blind. That was part of their security questions. Now it is a lot easier, especially if I remember to use firefox when doing online banking. All other things, I use I E or firefox. Which ever is the easiest. I've not yet mastered copying listen live radio station shortcuts on my desktop with firefox to then, paste into a folder. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: On Line Banking Sorry that was supposed to be shift + + to activate the touch cursor On 5/30/2017 5:00 PM, Randy Barnett wrote: did you try the Jaws cursor? and the shift + On 5/30/2017 4:52 PM, Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?
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Re: Comments in Microsoft Word
douglas richard dexheimer
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Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 home phone 773-409-6163 cell phone 913-244-0612 drichardd@earthlink.net
On 5/30/2017 9:26 PM, doug slotten wrote:
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Re: Windows update screen
Hi,
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If you have Windows 10 and if you're talking about what I think you're talking about, then JAWS cursor won't work there, as the way to retrieve screen content is very different. Cheers, Joseph
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:19 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows update screen I can read the screen line by line with the JAWS cursor, but that's about it. Otherwise it's tab all the way. As for why, that's a question for the ages and would be a mighty fine topic if we had one or two MS employees on-list. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H Sent: May-30-17 10:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Windows update screen I am finding that neither Window Eyes, NVDA or Jaws will read the screen for the windows update. Here is what I do. Hit the start button and in the edit box type windows update and hit enter. The next screen has a button for checking for updates as well as a lot of other info. I can tab through some of the items but I can find no way to read the screen line by line with the arrow keys or mouse keys. Why is this screen so difficult to read?
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Re: Comments in Microsoft Word
doug slotten
Have the same problem. I have found no solution.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Comments in Microsoft Word Hello: I have not yet tried the control + alt + M yet, but I will. I do not relish having to power down my computer again. Nevertheless, I will give it a try. I highlight the words for my sighted colleagues. It brings focus for the comment to the specific words. The highlighted words have their color changed, and the pointer leads from those words to the comment box. Also, JAWS identifies the txt so-highlighted by saying "has comment." There is no danger that the highlighted terms will end up in the comment. I have used comments like this for years. It is only recently that there has been a problem. Perhaps it is just JAWS, but perhaps it is a recent Word update coupled with JAWS. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Comments in Microsoft Word Ed, I don't use Word 2013, but as a suggestion, try pressing control+alt+m to add the comment as an alternative to the application key method. please explain the reason for selecting words relative to a comment? by doing this, might the words that are selected get inserted into the comment, or might you be wanting to do something else? -------- Original Message -------- From: Marquette, Ed [mailto:ed.marquette@kutakrock.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:26 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Comments in Microsoft Word Using JAWS 18 and Microsoft 2013, I have started encountering huge problems with comments. I swear these used to work. Now, if I highlight words relevant to a comment, press applications key, and select "New Comment" Word 2013 goes into a perpetual loop. The little arrows, I am told, go round and round. Of course, the system is locked and will respond to nothing. One cannot type in the comment box. Sometimes it takes 5 or 10 minutes for Word to recover. Sometimes it never recovers. It seems this is related to JAWS. The behavior does not occur with JAWS turned off, and it does not occur if I use NVDA. I'll report to Freedom Scientific, or whoever they are now, but I'm hoping someone on the list has encountered, and overcome, this problem. I. Edward Marquette Direct Dial: 816.502.4646 Mobile: 816.812.0088 Google Voice: 408.692.5640 Facsimile: 816.960.0041 Kutak Rock LLP 2300 Main Street, Suite 800 Kansas City, MO 64108 ed.marquette@kutakrock.com<mailto:ed.marquette@kutakrock.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you.
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Re: Comments in Microsoft Word
doug slotten
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Comments in Microsoft Word Hello: I have not yet tried the control + alt + M yet, but I will. I do not relish having to power down my computer again. Nevertheless, I will give it a try. I highlight the words for my sighted colleagues. It brings focus for the comment to the specific words. The highlighted words have their color changed, and the pointer leads from those words to the comment box. Also, JAWS identifies the txt so-highlighted by saying "has comment." There is no danger that the highlighted terms will end up in the comment. I have used comments like this for years. It is only recently that there has been a problem. Perhaps it is just JAWS, but perhaps it is a recent Word update coupled with JAWS. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Comments in Microsoft Word Ed, I don't use Word 2013, but as a suggestion, try pressing control+alt+m to add the comment as an alternative to the application key method. please explain the reason for selecting words relative to a comment? by doing this, might the words that are selected get inserted into the comment, or might you be wanting to do something else? -------- Original Message -------- From: Marquette, Ed [mailto:ed.marquette@kutakrock.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:26 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Comments in Microsoft Word Using JAWS 18 and Microsoft 2013, I have started encountering huge problems with comments. I swear these used to work. Now, if I highlight words relevant to a comment, press applications key, and select "New Comment" Word 2013 goes into a perpetual loop. The little arrows, I am told, go round and round. Of course, the system is locked and will respond to nothing. One cannot type in the comment box. Sometimes it takes 5 or 10 minutes for Word to recover. Sometimes it never recovers. It seems this is related to JAWS. The behavior does not occur with JAWS turned off, and it does not occur if I use NVDA. I'll report to Freedom Scientific, or whoever they are now, but I'm hoping someone on the list has encountered, and overcome, this problem. I. Edward Marquette Direct Dial: 816.502.4646 Mobile: 816.812.0088 Google Voice: 408.692.5640 Facsimile: 816.960.0041 Kutak Rock LLP 2300 Main Street, Suite 800 Kansas City, MO 64108 ed.marquette@kutakrock.com<mailto:ed.marquette@kutakrock.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you.
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Re: Windows update screen
Don H
Please explain how you use the jaws cursor to read this screen. I am a Jaws newbe and don't fully understand all the cursors available with Jaws.
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Thanks
On 5/30/2017 9:18 PM, James Homuth wrote:
I can read the screen line by line with the JAWS cursor, but that's about
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Re: Windows update screen
James Homuth
I can read the screen line by line with the JAWS cursor, but that's about
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it. Otherwise it's tab all the way. As for why, that's a question for the ages and would be a mighty fine topic if we had one or two MS employees on-list.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H Sent: May-30-17 10:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Windows update screen I am finding that neither Window Eyes, NVDA or Jaws will read the screen for the windows update. Here is what I do. Hit the start button and in the edit box type windows update and hit enter. The next screen has a button for checking for updates as well as a lot of other info. I can tab through some of the items but I can find no way to read the screen line by line with the arrow keys or mouse keys. Why is this screen so difficult to read?
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Re: msaa info
netbat66
this is for windows 7 and firefox 45 esr.
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thanks. this kind of works. i can enter the bookmark list once. but after i click a bookmark and the next page loads the virtual cursor turns back on. so if i don't press jaws z every time before i press f6 to get back to the bookmark list it will hang again. i don't have these problems if i use nvda.
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From: John Covici Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: msaa info I have never tried this, but try insert-z which turns off the virtual cursor -- that might work. On Tue, 30 May 2017 20:15:29 -0400, netbat66 wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com
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Windows update screen
Don H
I am finding that neither Window Eyes, NVDA or Jaws will read the screen for the windows update.
Here is what I do. Hit the start button and in the edit box type windows update and hit enter. The next screen has a button for checking for updates as well as a lot of other info. I can tab through some of the items but I can find no way to read the screen line by line with the arrow keys or mouse keys. Why is this screen so difficult to read?
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Re: Statistical Software
Tim Ford
I would check with IBM. They claim otherwise, and if your experience is several years old, there is probably a huge difference. If not, IBM makes it clear that they consider SPSS accessibility a priority, and if it were me, I would give them the chance. Have them work on any problems. Have good training materials. If we give up on companies before they get religion and try harder, then we are cutting off our own potential opportunities.
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alyssa
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:04 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Statistical Software
Unfortunately SPSS is not accessible. I was supposed to use it a few years back for grad school. Even with scripts, it did not play well with JAWS.
-Alyssa
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Hello Miranda,
You may want to check out this web page
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:26 PM
Miranda,
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