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Re: Is it possible to change the pitch of Eloquence?

Andre
 

Thanks Carol. I was still on default. Had no idea I had to change them individually. I definitely like WE’S option that lets you change all voices at once. One thing. How do you change the volume? I assumed it would be an option in there as well, but it was not.

 

Thanks again,

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is it possible to change the pitch of Eloquence?

 

Re: Eloquence pitch in jaws?
Yes, this can be done.  My instructions may not be the best, but I think you can figure it out since you have already been in the Jaws options and found
the voice settings.  From within the voices setting, choose voice adjustment.
Press alt-v to get to the combo box where you choose which cursor you want to modify.
you will get to an option where you can down arrow through options for default cursor, PC cursor, Jaws cursor, etc.
You can not have the option set to default.  After choosing the cursor you want to set, tab until you find the pitch setting. This is the next tab after
the punctuation setting.
You change it with the arrow keys.
Once you have it set, tab to save as and give it a name, something you will recognize, like Glen pitch 44  and press enter on OK.
You will be asked if you want to set this for the default.  Enter on yes or OK, I forgot what it is called at this point.
Now, you will have access to that voice whenever you want to use it.

Carol

On 5/25/2017 8:52 PM, Andre via Talk wrote:
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I really don't like the default pitch for the Jaws eloquence. Is it possible
to change this? I know with Window-eyes I could, but for some reason I
haven't found how to do it in Jaws. I found something that says the pitch
for uppercase where you can input a percent. I haven't found anything else.

 
Along the same lines are there hot keys to rotor through the screen,
keyboard, mouse, virtual cursor settings. In Window-Eyes it was
control-Alt-arrows etc. Still trying to get used to things. I just activated
my copy today.

 
Much thanks,

 
Andre

 
 
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On 5/25/2017 8:45 PM, Andre wrote:

I really don’t like the default pitch for the Jaws eloquence. Is it possible to change this? I know with Window-eyes I could, but for some reason I haven’t found how to do it in Jaws. I found something that says the pitch for uppercase where you can input a percent. I haven’t found anything else.

 

Along the same lines are there hot keys to rotor through the screen, keyboard, mouse, virtual cursor settings. In Window-Eyes it was control-Alt-arrows etc. Still trying to get used to things. I just activated my copy today.

 

Much thanks,

 

Andre

 

 


Re: What Happened To AVG?

Gene Stevens
 

And if that machine was new in 2007 it should be quite capable of running Windows 7.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

You can buy a retail copy of Windows 7 Home Premium on eBay for pretty cheap, in fact, I think I have a Home Premium key around I could give you, then just download the ISO from Microsoft and install it. Running Windows XP these days is pretty unsafe anyways since it gets no more security updates and so on. Here is a link for eBay:

 

http://wwwebay.com/itm/Windows-7-Home-Premium-32-Bit-by-Microsoft-Full-Version-SP1-w-COA-/331991256204

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

 

Because the machine I have is no longer supported by Dell, as it was originally purchased in 2007. So that means I would have to get an entirely new machine.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Stevens
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

Just out of curiosity why do you think it would cost over $700 to upgrade to Windows 7?

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:15 PM

Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

 

The machine I have AVG on has Windows XP, and right this moment, I don't have $787 to upgrade it to Windows 7. For some reason, I've tried uninstalling AVG, but the installer stops after a few minutes and Microsoft creates an "Error Report". I tried "Debug", then restart the computer, then restart the uninstall process, but nothing changes. It's still stuck on the same error.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

Not sure if that is what you want to do, but I would simply uninstall it and use the free anti-virus solution Microsoft provides. For Windows 7 it is called Security Essentials and you have to download it, if you have Windows 10 you have Windows Defender already built in to the OS.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What Happened To AVG?

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

I have AVG Antivirus Free Edition, and a recent update has rendered it inaccessible to JAWS. Specifically it did something where it won't let me access the menu from the System Tray like it used to. Also, I used to be able to fully access the main interface, but I think they messed with something where it's now made with Google Chrome. How do I get rid of AVG Zen? I have Antivirus Free, and it keeps telling me to renew my subscription. What's up with that? I don't have a paid subscription, and I don't think you would need one with AVG Antivirus Free.

 


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Re: off topic possibly

David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
 

It's a different dave. But, take heart, he lives just 2 states away and
across the border from me. The border crossing is in Vancouver B C Canada.
He lives south of that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: off topic possibly

David, it sounds to me that the best thing to do is scan them onto a
computer. I'm thinking you'd need someone's help
- sorry my husband lives thousands of miles away. Or maybe you don't live in
Oregon, that's another Dave. Anyway, I'm thinking that could work, if you
could scan them onto a computer - even at Walgreens. Actually, I believe
they have a service like that at Walgreens where they will do that for you.
Once you get it in your computer, then you have control of it, wherever you
want to send it, put it on a flash drive or SD card, whatever.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David &
his pack of dogs
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: off topic possibly

I am. They are pics taken with a camera. I doubt it had a
USB port or cable come with it.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: off topic possibly



...if you're talking about photographs without words -- absolutely useless.



Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer





----- Original Message -----

From: David & his pack of dogs
<mailto:myguidedogis@...>

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 08:05

Subject: off topic possibly



Does anyone know if coloured pictures can be scanned into a
computer? If so, how isJAWS with reading it?


Re: WE and Jaws

David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
 

I left my copy installed just, set it to turn on when I wanted it too, not
automatically like before.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

From my understanding, window eyes will work in safe mode? This would be a
great feature as jaws does not and to my knowledge narrator does not either

On May 26, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
wrote:

I certainly hope so. WE always handled remote access, particularly
Citrix, better than did Jaws. In fact Jaws still will not work with Citrix
when it is running in a virtual environment.
Also, the pronounciation dictionaries were far more robust in WE. For
instance, for those of us who sometimes dictate using Dragon Naturally
Speaking, the wE dictionaries worked great for distinguishing homonyms .

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Wondering if there is any chance in heck that FS will take a hard look at
what Window Eyes might have been doing better than Jaws and incorporate some
of those things into Jaws? I fully understand that WE did some things
better than Jaws and Jaws does some thing better than WE but maybe a little
mingling of the two would end up with a overall better screen reader.


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Re: WE and Jaws

David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
 

Make sure you get the number correct when dialing. I accidently dialed
triple 8 and, got a definite wrong number.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

No joke, Joseph. Call Freedom Scientific at 800-444-4443 and ask them.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws


Hi,
I hope that was a joke... Anyway...
VFO: Vision Freedom Optelec. AI Squared acquired GW Micro, which in turn
was
acquired by VFO last year.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

Yes, The V in VFO is for V Squared, which first bought Window-Eyes from GW
Micro. Then Freedom Scientific merged with Optelec and VSquared. So
Freedom
Scientific now has the ownership of Window-Eyes which is going to be fazed
out.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Elledge via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

Stupid question: has FS acquired WE? I didn't find anything on line.

On May 26, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Marquette, Ed
<ed.marquette@...>
wrote:

I certainly hope so. WE always handled remote access, particularly
Citrix, better than did Jaws. In fact Jaws still will not work with
Citrix
when it is running in a virtual environment.
Also, the pronounciation dictionaries were far more robust in WE. For
instance, for those of us who sometimes dictate using Dragon Naturally
Speaking, the wE dictionaries worked great for distinguishing homonyms
.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Wondering if there is any chance in heck that FS will take a hard
look at
what Window Eyes might have been doing better than Jaws and incorporate
some
of those things into Jaws? I fully understand that WE did some things
better than Jaws and Jaws does some thing better than WE but maybe a
little
mingling of the two would end up with a overall better screen reader.


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Re: What Happened To AVG?

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Actually my machine has "Professional" not "Home".



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

You can buy a retail copy of Windows 7 Home Premium on eBay for pretty cheap, in fact, I think I have a Home Premium key around I could give you, then just download the ISO from Microsoft and install it. Running Windows XP these days is pretty unsafe anyways since it gets no more security updates and so on. Here is a link for eBay:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-Home-Premium-32-Bit-by-Microsoft-Full-Version-SP1-w-COA-/331991256204

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

 

Because the machine I have is no longer supported by Dell, as it was originally purchased in 2007. So that means I would have to get an entirely new machine.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Stevens
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

Just out of curiosity why do you think it would cost over $700 to upgrade to Windows 7?

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:15 PM

Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

 

The machine I have AVG on has Windows XP, and right this moment, I don't have $787 to upgrade it to Windows 7. For some reason, I've tried uninstalling AVG, but the installer stops after a few minutes and Microsoft creates an "Error Report". I tried "Debug", then restart the computer, then restart the uninstall process, but nothing changes. It's still stuck on the same error.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

Not sure if that is what you want to do, but I would simply uninstall it and use the free anti-virus solution Microsoft provides. For Windows 7 it is called Security Essentials and you have to download it, if you have Windows 10 you have Windows Defender already built in to the OS.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What Happened To AVG?

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

I have AVG Antivirus Free Edition, and a recent update has rendered it inaccessible to JAWS. Specifically it did something where it won't let me access the menu from the System Tray like it used to. Also, I used to be able to fully access the main interface, but I think they messed with something where it's now made with Google Chrome. How do I get rid of AVG Zen? I have Antivirus Free, and it keeps telling me to renew my subscription. What's up with that? I don't have a paid subscription, and I don't think you would need one with AVG Antivirus Free.

 


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JAWS & the % of download?

David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
 

When downloading a file is it possible for JAWS to tell you the percentage of the download?  Or, is it browser driven.  Google does not tell you how much has been downloaded, it tells you nothing till you try to close it.  The same is true for Firefox.  However, Google is the worst of the 2. Both just tell you a file is being downloaded, “Are you sure you want to exit?” So, since I am new to JAWS, I want to know if there is a setting that will tell me the completion percentage of the file being downloaded.    


Re: giving up for now on Convenient OCR

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi Carol,

 

Convenient OCR is extremely convenient and something I use several times every day since I deal with a lot of PDF invoices ad other files.

Just install Acrobat DC from www.adobe.com, once you set it up once you are good to go and it's by far the best PDF reader even for accessible PDF's.

Once you have it and press enter on a PDF it will open in Acrobat Reader, then press Jaws Key+O followed by D, wait a bit until it finishes recognizing and you are good to go.

I think Convenient OCR is the best feature Freedom Scientific has ever come up with, a total game-changer. I used to have Openbook but haven't installed it on a PC for a long time because this is so much easier.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: giving up for now on Convenient OCR

 

I think my Adobe is version 9, but I only keep it on the pc because I use Kurzweil to convert my pdf files normally.  The Convenient OCr just sounded that, convenient.  I don't know how my original file opened.  So, for now, I think I will just go back to Kurzweil.

Thank you to all that have tried to help me.

Carol

On 5/26/2017 4:51 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

So is Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Stevens
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convenient OCR

 

Adobe Reader is a free one that can be used.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:39 PM

Subject: Re: Convenient OCR

 

What should it open with?

My options are Windows Photo Viewer, Paint Microsoft Word and Office Picture Manager.

Some pdf files I have can open in Balabolka. 

Carol

On 5/26/2017 3:00 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,

 

1st, press enter to open the PDF file!  LOL 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:29 AM

Subject: Convenient OCR

 

Hi,

I would like to read a pdf file with the Convenient OCR program. It is
not working.  I did it once on the first day I received my copy of Jaws.

Steps taken:
located the file in my user folder
pressed jaws key plus spacebar
pressed O and then D


I did the same thing again today.  When I get to the press of the d, I
get a sound and nothing happens.  Is it possible I a) either made a
mistake in what I did, or b) changed something in Jaws that won't allow
me to do this now?

Thanks for the help.

Carol


 

 


Re: deleting sent items

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Laura -

1. Bo to sent items.
2. Press Control-A, which will highlight all the items sent.
3. Press Delete, and they'll go into your delete folder.
However, if you are sure you are ready to bid the messages
adeu, once they are highlighted with the Control-A, press
Shift-Delete. JAWS will ask if you want to permanently
delete these messages. If you do, press Enter - VOILA, there
you are. They're all gone.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: deleting sent items

Hello,



How do you delete sent items? ...... I'm using Outlook 2010
and Jaws 15. Thanks for any help.



Laura


Re: Win 7 VS win 10

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 05:30 pm, David Moore wrote:
The Blind need to quit making everything comfortable just for them, because how can you do stuff on sighted people’s computers?

To be fair, this is in no way limited to those who are blind or visually-impaired.  I cannot tell you how many clients I've had, and even students I've known, who were completely flummoxed by the native interface to "Operating System X" when confronted with it because they insisted on larding their systems with things that were intentionally designed to keep things going "the way I'm used to."

Nothing is so constant as change, particularly in computing, and while I understand the desire to hold on to the familiar as much as anyone once it's become obvious that what's familiar is woefully out of date it's long past time to put in the learning curve pain to catch up.

I also routinely tell my clients that it's generally much easier (grand scheme, not personal discomfort) going through these learning curves when everyone else is having to do the same.  You have a much larger pool of ready help because any question you'll be asking will be one someone else most likely has and information is flying around at lightning speed to answer them during those periods.   Once things settle down no one's paying attention, particularly to issues that have been talked about a million times, and it becomes a research slog to find what you want.

That's also why I encourage my students to join groups such as this one.  They need to get used to lurking at first just to see what's being discussed and get a feel for the culture but be ready to step out as either a questioner or someone giving an answer when the opportunity presents itself.  It is almost impossible to overstate the value of having a community of fellow-travelers during those times when you may be most feeling adrift. 
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.332

 
If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker


Re: What Happened To AVG?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

You can buy a retail copy of Windows 7 Home Premium on eBay for pretty cheap, in fact, I think I have a Home Premium key around I could give you, then just download the ISO from Microsoft and install it. Running Windows XP these days is pretty unsafe anyways since it gets no more security updates and so on. Here is a link for eBay:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-Home-Premium-32-Bit-by-Microsoft-Full-Version-SP1-w-COA-/331991256204

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

 

Because the machine I have is no longer supported by Dell, as it was originally purchased in 2007. So that means I would have to get an entirely new machine.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Stevens
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

Just out of curiosity why do you think it would cost over $700 to upgrade to Windows 7?

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:15 PM

Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

 

The machine I have AVG on has Windows XP, and right this moment, I don't have $787 to upgrade it to Windows 7. For some reason, I've tried uninstalling AVG, but the installer stops after a few minutes and Microsoft creates an "Error Report". I tried "Debug", then restart the computer, then restart the uninstall process, but nothing changes. It's still stuck on the same error.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What Happened To AVG?

Not sure if that is what you want to do, but I would simply uninstall it and use the free anti-virus solution Microsoft provides. For Windows 7 it is called Security Essentials and you have to download it, if you have Windows 10 you have Windows Defender already built in to the OS.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What Happened To AVG?

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

I have AVG Antivirus Free Edition, and a recent update has rendered it inaccessible to JAWS. Specifically it did something where it won't let me access the menu from the System Tray like it used to. Also, I used to be able to fully access the main interface, but I think they messed with something where it's now made with Google Chrome. How do I get rid of AVG Zen? I have Antivirus Free, and it keeps telling me to renew my subscription. What's up with that? I don't have a paid subscription, and I don't think you would need one with AVG Antivirus Free.

 


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Re: WE and Jaws

Chris G <jedikent@...>
 

We all have those from time to time. (smile)



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:34 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: WE and Jaws

Yep, you're right. I had a brain fade for a moment.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

The company that merged with GW Micro in 2014 was Ai Squared, not V Squared.
The V in VFO is for Vector.
Thanks,
Chris



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From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:20 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: WE and Jaws

Yes, The V in VFO is for V Squared, which first bought Window-Eyes from GW
Micro. Then Freedom Scientific merged with Optelec and VSquared. So Freedom
Scientific now has the ownership of Window-Eyes which is going to be fazed
out.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Elledge via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

Stupid question: has FS acquired WE? I didn't find anything on line.

On May 26, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
wrote:

I certainly hope so. WE always handled remote access, particularly
Citrix, better than did Jaws. In fact Jaws still will not work with Citrix
when it is running in a virtual environment.
Also, the pronounciation dictionaries were far more robust in WE. For
instance, for those of us who sometimes dictate using Dragon Naturally
Speaking, the wE dictionaries worked great for distinguishing homonyms .

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Wondering if there is any chance in heck that FS will take a hard look at
what Window Eyes might have been doing better than Jaws and incorporate some
of those things into Jaws? I fully understand that WE did some things
better than Jaws and Jaws does some thing better than WE but maybe a little
mingling of the two would end up with a overall better screen reader.




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Re: WE and Jaws

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Yep, you're right. I had a brain fade for a moment.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

The company that merged with GW Micro in 2014 was Ai Squared, not V Squared.
The V in VFO is for Vector.
Thanks,
Chris



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:20 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: WE and Jaws

Yes, The V in VFO is for V Squared, which first bought Window-Eyes from GW
Micro. Then Freedom Scientific merged with Optelec and VSquared. So Freedom
Scientific now has the ownership of Window-Eyes which is going to be fazed
out.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Elledge via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

Stupid question: has FS acquired WE? I didn't find anything on line.

On May 26, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
wrote:

I certainly hope so. WE always handled remote access, particularly
Citrix, better than did Jaws. In fact Jaws still will not work with Citrix
when it is running in a virtual environment.
Also, the pronounciation dictionaries were far more robust in WE. For
instance, for those of us who sometimes dictate using Dragon Naturally
Speaking, the wE dictionaries worked great for distinguishing homonyms .

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Wondering if there is any chance in heck that FS will take a hard look at
what Window Eyes might have been doing better than Jaws and incorporate some
of those things into Jaws? I fully understand that WE did some things
better than Jaws and Jaws does some thing better than WE but maybe a little
mingling of the two would end up with a overall better screen reader.




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Re: giving up for now on Convenient OCR

Mario
 

your version of adobe reader is old. that may be your problem. grab a
copy of the latest installer, adobe reader dc which is version 15, and
install it. make sure to uninstall version 9 first.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io [mailto:carollablady@...]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:06 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: giving up for now on Convenient OCR

I think my Adobe is version 9, but I only keep it on the pc because I
use Kurzweil to convert my pdf files normally. The Convenient OCr just
sounded that, convenient. I don't know how my original file opened. So,
for now, I think I will just go back to Kurzweil.

Thank you to all that have tried to help me.

Carol


On 5/26/2017 4:51 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

So is Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.

Tom Behler

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Gene Stevens
*Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 4:50 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Convenient OCR

Adobe Reader is a free one that can be used.

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Carol Smith via Groups.Io
<mailto:carollablady@...>

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:*Friday, May 26, 2017 4:39 PM

*Subject:*Re: Convenient OCR

What should it open with?

My options are Windows Photo Viewer, Paint Microsoft Word and
Office Picture Manager.

Some pdf files I have can open in Balabolka.

Carol

On 5/26/2017 3:00 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,

1st, press enter to open the PDF file! LOL

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license
agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click
I agree.

----- Original Message -----

*From:* Carol Smith via Groups.Io
<mailto:carollablady@...>

*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 11:29 AM

*Subject:* Convenient OCR

Hi,

I would like to read a pdf file with the Convenient OCR
program. It is
not working. I did it once on the first day I received my
copy of Jaws.

Steps taken:
located the file in my user folder
pressed jaws key plus spacebar
pressed O and then D


I did the same thing again today. When I get to the press of
the d, I
get a sound and nothing happens. Is it possible I a) either
made a
mistake in what I did, or b) changed something in Jaws that
won't allow
me to do this now?

Thanks for the help.

Carol


Re: WE and Jaws

 

Hi,
Ah, gotcha, thanks for the correction.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

Actually, the V stands for Vector, not vision.

https://www.freedomscientific.com/About/News/Article/149



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more.
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-------- Original Message --------
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:33 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: WE and Jaws

Hi,
I was kidding... And yes, "V" stands for Vision.
The day VFO acquired AI Squared, many analysts predicted the demise of Window-Eyes, which happened on May 15, 2017. This will be final once Microsoft stops supporting Office-backed Window-Eyes in June.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

No joke, Joseph. Call Freedom Scientific at 800-444-4443 and ask them.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws


Hi,
I hope that was a joke... Anyway...
VFO: Vision Freedom Optelec. AI Squared acquired GW Micro, which in turn was acquired by VFO last year.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

Yes, The V in VFO is for V Squared, which first bought Window-Eyes from GW Micro. Then Freedom Scientific merged with Optelec and VSquared. So Freedom Scientific now has the ownership of Window-Eyes which is going to be fazed out.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Elledge via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

Stupid question: has FS acquired WE? I didn't find anything on line.

On May 26, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
wrote:

I certainly hope so. WE always handled remote access, particularly Citrix, better than did Jaws. In fact Jaws still will not work with Citrix when it is running in a virtual environment.
Also, the pronounciation dictionaries were far more robust in WE. For instance, for those of us who sometimes dictate using Dragon Naturally Speaking, the wE dictionaries worked great for distinguishing homonyms .

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Wondering if there is any chance in heck that FS will take a hard look at what Window Eyes might have been doing better than Jaws and incorporate some of those things into Jaws? I fully understand that WE did some things better than Jaws and Jaws does some thing better than WE but maybe a little mingling of the two would end up with a overall better screen reader.




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Re: Win 7 VS win 10

David Moore
 

Amen!

If you use someone else’s computer, which I do all of the time, you have to be able to use the Windows 10 interface just the way it is. I am with sighted friends all of the time playing with them on their computer. I can use their computer just the way it is with Narrator, and a portable version of NVDA. The Blind need to quit making everything comfortable just for them, because how can you do stuff on sighted people’s computers?

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 7 VS win 10

 

The principle of learning to use the native interface that you're presented with rather than adding layers on top of it to emulate an old one is an important one in my experience.

If you're like most individuals I've known, you will find yourself on another computer (or other computers) away from home that may even have the software you're used to (e.g., JAWS, NVDA, etc.) but where you are not able to make changes to settings or the like.

If you have become dependent on something like the virtual ribbon, Classic Shell, etc., you are up the proverbial creek without a paddle.  In addition, if you have a very good memory about where you are in a given program and what you need to do to get out gracefully, you can do so if your screen reader suddenly refuses to speak for some reason.
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.332

 
If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker

 


Re: WE and Jaws

Chris G <jedikent@...>
 

The company that merged with GW Micro in 2014 was Ai Squared, not V Squared.
The V in VFO is for Vector.
Thanks,
Chris



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:20 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: WE and Jaws

Yes, The V in VFO is for V Squared, which first bought Window-Eyes from GW
Micro. Then Freedom Scientific merged with Optelec and VSquared. So Freedom
Scientific now has the ownership of Window-Eyes which is going to be fazed
out.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Elledge via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

Stupid question: has FS acquired WE? I didn't find anything on line.

On May 26, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
wrote:

I certainly hope so. WE always handled remote access, particularly
Citrix, better than did Jaws. In fact Jaws still will not work with Citrix
when it is running in a virtual environment.
Also, the pronounciation dictionaries were far more robust in WE. For
instance, for those of us who sometimes dictate using Dragon Naturally
Speaking, the wE dictionaries worked great for distinguishing homonyms .

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Wondering if there is any chance in heck that FS will take a hard look at
what Window Eyes might have been doing better than Jaws and incorporate some
of those things into Jaws? I fully understand that WE did some things
better than Jaws and Jaws does some thing better than WE but maybe a little
mingling of the two would end up with a overall better screen reader.




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Re: WE and Jaws

Chris G <jedikent@...>
 

Actually, the V stands for Vector, not vision.

https://www.freedomscientific.com/About/News/Article/149



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower

-------- Original Message --------
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:33 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: WE and Jaws

Hi,
I was kidding... And yes, "V" stands for Vision.
The day VFO acquired AI Squared, many analysts predicted the demise of
Window-Eyes, which happened on May 15, 2017. This will be final once
Microsoft stops supporting Office-backed Window-Eyes in June.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

No joke, Joseph. Call Freedom Scientific at 800-444-4443 and ask them.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws


Hi,
I hope that was a joke... Anyway...
VFO: Vision Freedom Optelec. AI Squared acquired GW Micro, which in turn
was
acquired by VFO last year.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

Yes, The V in VFO is for V Squared, which first bought Window-Eyes from GW
Micro. Then Freedom Scientific merged with Optelec and VSquared. So
Freedom
Scientific now has the ownership of Window-Eyes which is going to be fazed
out.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Elledge via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: WE and Jaws

Stupid question: has FS acquired WE? I didn't find anything on line.

On May 26, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Marquette, Ed
<ed.marquette@...>
wrote:

I certainly hope so. WE always handled remote access, particularly
Citrix, better than did Jaws. In fact Jaws still will not work with
Citrix
when it is running in a virtual environment.
Also, the pronounciation dictionaries were far more robust in WE. For
instance, for those of us who sometimes dictate using Dragon Naturally
Speaking, the wE dictionaries worked great for distinguishing homonyms
.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Wondering if there is any chance in heck that FS will take a hard
look at
what Window Eyes might have been doing better than Jaws and incorporate
some
of those things into Jaws? I fully understand that WE did some things
better than Jaws and Jaws does some thing better than WE but maybe a
little
mingling of the two would end up with a overall better screen reader.




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Re: deleting sent items

James Malone
 

I just go in to the sent items folder, do a select all, and hit the delete key. In regards to the recycle bin, I just empty everything.

Hope this helps.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: deleting sent items

 

Hello,

 

How do you delete sent items? ...... I’m using Outlook 2010 and Jaws 15.  Thanks for any help.

 

Laura

 


deleting sent items

Laura Richardson
 

Hello,

 

How do you delete sent items? ...... I’m using Outlook 2010 and Jaws 15.  Thanks for any help.

 

Laura