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Re: repairing Jaws

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

It once had an actual repair option. I haven't had to run it for a while, before the new method involving the command line came into vogue. But in the day it worked.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: repairing Jaws

It's worth noting that the repair option really isn't much of a repair
option. All it does is remove JAWS and then reinstall it. Saves you a couple
extra steps, but if you've tried a manual reinstall before running the
repair, don't bother running the repair. And if you've already run the
repair and it didn't fix you, a manual reinstall probably won't either.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: May-25-17 1:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: repairing Jaws

you have some options when you choose to repair useing the jaws installer.
modify, remove or repair.
you need to have speech on to do this because the installer does not have
speech at this point.
but you can retain your settings or erase them to start over from scratch.
it will also ask you if you want to install more voices or brail support.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: repairing Jaws

How do you repair Jaws? I assume you just run the installer package again
and at some point it offers a repair versus reinstall. Does a repair reset
all your settings?


status line

judith bron
 

How do I  insert the status line using jaws 16?  ThanksaAZ, Judith


Re: graphics in wlm 2012

Dave...
 

Again, the graphics are likely changing ever so slightly, and thus making
your labels useless.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "netbat66" <netbat66@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:02
Subject: Re: graphics in wlm 2012


i am useing the one line view. i also tried screen refresh, which made no
difference.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave...
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: graphics in wlm 2012

It's entirely possible that the graphics change, depending on the view
you're in, or whether they are highlighted, or adjacent to other graphics.
Simply the graphic changing color slightly could cause it to not match your
labeled graphic. I gave up trying to label graphics, since it takes a lot of
work, and often they change for very innocuous reasons.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "netbat66" <netbat66@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:15
Subject: graphics in wlm 2012


is this a bug?
i have labeled most of the status graphics. like the read and unread, thread
opened and closed.
but after i read a message the graphic will not say read until i alt tab
away
and back to wlm then these graphics will read properly.
until i alt tab out and back in none of the read message graphics will speak
after opening only 1 message.


There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.


Re: Quicken

Ted Drake
 

Hi All
I manage accessibility at Intuit, so I can help with clarifying the current situation.

Quicken was Intuit's original product and helps people manage their budgets, investments, and balancing their accounts. QuickBooks is the product for small businesses. It manages accounting, sales, invoices, employees, payroll, and taxes.

Intuit spun off Quicken last year; it now runs as its own company. Intuit's management felt like Quicken was no longer fitting into our core strategy and it would have a stronger future as a standalone product.  Quicken has kept the majority of its engineers and most importantly their lead accessibility manager. Quicken made a change several years ago to modernize the operating system and accidentally made accessibility worse. We gathered a group of blind customers to beta test fixes and began a concentrated effort to restore keyboard and improve label accessibility.

The  Intuit/Quicken separation process took a while, but their team is back to working on accessibility and product quality. I still keep in touch with their team and have great confidence in their commitment to accessibility.

Quicken should work a bit better with JAWS than Window-Eyes. We discovered an old script was bundled with the JAWS product. We made some improvements  a couple years ago to provide some additional labels for controls. This script is free and you shouldn't need to download anything.

You can find more information about Quicken at https://www.quicken.com/


For basic budgeting and categorization, you could also try Mint. This is the free product from Intuit. It's a web and mobile product that does much of what Quicken covers. Mint doesn't provide Quicken's deeper reports and insights. It does have a method to pay bills. Mint's mobile apps provide a more accessible experience than the web site, but we are continually making improvements to all platforms.  You can find more information at http://mint.intuit.com

QuickBooks isn't the product for you.

I always welcome feedback on the accessibility of our products. Our product teams value customer insights.

Thank you Les for your your response.

Ted Drake, Intuit Accessibility
ted_drake@...


Re: repairing Jaws

James Homuth
 

It's worth noting that the repair option really isn't much of a repair
option. All it does is remove JAWS and then reinstall it. Saves you a couple
extra steps, but if you've tried a manual reinstall before running the
repair, don't bother running the repair. And if you've already run the
repair and it didn't fix you, a manual reinstall probably won't either.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: May-25-17 1:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: repairing Jaws

you have some options when you choose to repair useing the jaws installer.
modify, remove or repair.
you need to have speech on to do this because the installer does not have
speech at this point.
but you can retain your settings or erase them to start over from scratch.
it will also ask you if you want to install more voices or brail support.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: repairing Jaws

How do you repair Jaws? I assume you just run the installer package again
and at some point it offers a repair versus reinstall. Does a repair reset
all your settings?


Re: graphics in wlm 2012

netbat66
 

i am useing the one line view. i also tried screen refresh, which made no difference.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave...
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: graphics in wlm 2012

It's entirely possible that the graphics change, depending on the view
you're in, or whether they are highlighted, or adjacent to other graphics.
Simply the graphic changing color slightly could cause it to not match your
labeled graphic. I gave up trying to label graphics, since it takes a lot of
work, and often they change for very innocuous reasons.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "netbat66" <netbat66@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:15
Subject: graphics in wlm 2012


is this a bug?
i have labeled most of the status graphics. like the read and unread, thread
opened and closed.
but after i read a message the graphic will not say read until i alt tab
away
and back to wlm then these graphics will read properly.
until i alt tab out and back in none of the read message graphics will speak
after opening only 1 message.


There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.


Re: Reversed Documents List

Shirley Tracy
 

Thank you so much. So simple, but I didn't know.
Shirley Tracy
author
OPERATION CODE CHARLIE
now available at major book sellers

---- "Carol Smith via Groups.Io" <carollablady=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

=============
While in your list of files, press alt-v (view menu)
Press o for sort order
Press enter on name.
This will return the files to the original sort order.

Carol

On 5/25/2017 1:25 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:
Help! I'm running Windows 7 and JAWS 18. Suddenly my "Documents" has inverted--instead of running from the A's to the Z's, they list from the Z's to the A's. It's not a big deal, but I'm not used to it and would really like to get it back where it was. have no idea what made it reverse.
Not sure if this is a JAWS issue or not, but I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to fix it since I'll need to use JAWS to do it.

Thank you in advance.

Shirley





Re: repairing Jaws

netbat66
 

you have some options when you choose to repair useing the jaws installer.
modify, remove or repair.
you need to have speech on to do this because the installer does not have speech at this point.
but you can retain your settings or erase them to start over from scratch.
it will also ask you if you want to install more voices or brail support.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: repairing Jaws

How do you repair Jaws? I assume you just run the installer package
again and at some point it offers a repair versus reinstall. Does a
repair reset all your settings?


Re: Reversed Documents List

Dave...
 

What list of documents are you referring to? What program is listing them?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shirley Tracy" <stracy5@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:25
Subject: Reversed Documents List


Help! I'm running Windows 7 and JAWS 18. Suddenly my "Documents" has
inverted--instead of running from the A's to the Z's, they list from the Z's
to the A's. It's not a big deal, but I'm not used to it and would really
like to get it back where it was. have no idea what made it reverse.
Not sure if this is a JAWS issue or not, but I'd be grateful if someone
could tell me how to fix it since I'll need to use JAWS to do it.

Thank you in advance.

Shirley


Re: Reversed Documents List

Carol Smith
 

While in your list of files, press alt-v (view menu)
Press o for sort order
Press enter on name.
This will return the files to the original sort order.

Carol

On 5/25/2017 1:25 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:
Help! I'm running Windows 7 and JAWS 18. Suddenly my "Documents" has inverted--instead of running from the A's to the Z's, they list from the Z's to the A's. It's not a big deal, but I'm not used to it and would really like to get it back where it was. have no idea what made it reverse.
Not sure if this is a JAWS issue or not, but I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to fix it since I'll need to use JAWS to do it.

Thank you in advance.

Shirley




Re: repairing Jaws

Dave...
 

Yes, and no it does not require you to remove your settings.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:44
Subject: repairing Jaws


How do you repair Jaws? I assume you just run the installer package
again and at some point it offers a repair versus reinstall. Does a
repair reset all your settings?


Re: graphics in wlm 2012

Dave...
 

It's entirely possible that the graphics change, depending on the view
you're in, or whether they are highlighted, or adjacent to other graphics.
Simply the graphic changing color slightly could cause it to not match your
labeled graphic. I gave up trying to label graphics, since it takes a lot of
work, and often they change for very innocuous reasons.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "netbat66" <netbat66@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:15
Subject: graphics in wlm 2012


is this a bug?
i have labeled most of the status graphics. like the read and unread, thread
opened and closed.
but after i read a message the graphic will not say read until i alt tab
away
and back to wlm then these graphics will read properly.
until i alt tab out and back in none of the read message graphics will speak
after opening only 1 message.


There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.


Re: Reversed Documents List

Brenda <bjnite@...>
 

Not sure of your email program, but in Thunderbird you go to view by pressing ALT, arrow down to sort and then check or uncheck ascending or descending. If you are using outlook, it is probably similar.

Brenda

On 5/25/2017 1:25 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:
Help! I'm running Windows 7 and JAWS 18. Suddenly my "Documents" has inverted--instead of running from the A's to the Z's, they list from the Z's to the A's. It's not a big deal, but I'm not used to it and would really like to get it back where it was. have no idea what made it reverse.
Not sure if this is a JAWS issue or not, but I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to fix it since I'll need to use JAWS to do it.
Thank you in advance.
Shirley


Re: Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDF Articles

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

How would that help, unless it’s an image?  If it was, he couldn’t have seen the first page either.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDF Articles

 

Did you try OCR?

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDF Articles

 

Try the view menu, there is a place there to move up, down by page or goto a page.  The shortcuts never work for me.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDF Articles

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.

 

Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or the page up and page down keys.

 

Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be  stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the file.

 

I’m using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe Acrobat DC.

 

Any suggestions would be apreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 

 
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Re: Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDF Articles

Jonas Voll
 

Did you try OCR?

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDF Articles

 

Try the view menu, there is a place there to move up, down by page or goto a page.  The shortcuts never work for me.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDF Articles

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.

 

Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or the page up and page down keys.

 

Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be  stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the file.

 

I’m using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe Acrobat DC.

 

Any suggestions would be apreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 

 
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Re: Win 7 VS win 10

Mario
 

I haven't done anything to IE to make it behave that way. anyway, I got
the file saved. thanks Brian.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:25 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Win 7 VS win 10

Mario,

Again, I cannot answer that question because use of the
download manager is typically something that gets set in the browser
itself. I do not use them though I will occasionally call up the
download manager after I've finished downloading something.

You seem to have IE configured such that when a download is
requested it automatically opens the download manager. I have not used
Internet Explorer in years so I cannot tell you where to look in
settings for this.
--
*Brian* Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit


If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you
furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap
and you won't mind. ~ Irving Becker


repairing Jaws

Don H
 

How do you repair Jaws? I assume you just run the installer package again and at some point it offers a repair versus reinstall. Does a repair reset all your settings?


Reversed Documents List

Shirley Tracy
 

Help! I'm running Windows 7 and JAWS 18. Suddenly my "Documents" has inverted--instead of running from the A's to the Z's, they list from the Z's to the A's. It's not a big deal, but I'm not used to it and would really like to get it back where it was. have no idea what made it reverse.
Not sure if this is a JAWS issue or not, but I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to fix it since I'll need to use JAWS to do it.

Thank you in advance.

Shirley


Re: Vocalizors and their people

Gudrun Brunot
 

I'd take male Siri. He reminds me a little of Data the android, on whom I
would have had a crush if I wasn't otherwise engaged.

Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vocalizors and their people

I'd marry Daniel I think if he were real.
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vocalizors and their people

as I know, Karen is Karen Jacobsen of Australia and Daniel is John Cribbs
of England. BTW, Siri is Susan Bennet of Alabama.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ashleigh Piccinino [mailto:apiccinino@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 2:19 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Vocalizors and their people

Hello,
Wouldn't it be cool if we actually knew these people as they
originally wer/are? However, some/most might've died out but left heir
recordings to use for voices with JAWS/decktalk and other things. BY the
way, I believe Caren's already married to Lee-another Australian, you know?
This is just my opinion.


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10

From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)<mailto:ted.lisle@ky.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

That's our girl! Hope Colleen never finds out.

Ted

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

Are you talking about Karen from Australia?
Man, I've had some big time fun writing scripts for her to say!
And that's all I got to say about that! LOL!

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

How about slowing down your listening speed? LOL. The JAWS diffult is set
to 15, slower then snails.

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

Well, pilgrim, how 'bout The duke reading your shopping list oh, how I wish
I could write that in Winterset, Iowa dialect)! I'm personally a fan of
Vocalizer's Karen, but reading at my speed means I can't use any of them,
except Eloquence, for very long.

Ted

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

Well, "sexy" is in the ear of the beholder, that's for sure.

I've found some of the "foreign" (for the United States) accented voices on
Garmin, particularly one of the British female and Australian male, voices
to be rather mellifluous and somewhat sexy. Everyone's mileage will, of
course, vary,

I don't find, for instance, the SAPI voice "Microsoft David" that I use with
NVDA "sexy" but I do find it, in many instances, particularly when it's
reading through something at beyond the letter or word levels to be
remarkably lifelike in most instances.

Not knowing the synthesizers that various people are using it's impossible
to suggest generic ways to search for a "sexy" voice for them, but I'd be
willing to bet that someone has created them, even if they're not
commercially available, but it's a matter of finding them.
Inflection, breathiness (or lack thereof), and vowel duration are a lot of
what get's tagged as "sexy" when you think about voices in real people that
are described as sexy. These are parameters that it's possible to control
in a speech synthesizer.

It would be an absolute riot to create a "femme fatale" or the male
counterpart thereof synthesized voices for use with anything, screen reader
or not. I don't think that anyone would use the most "over the top"
versions for any period of time, but they could make for great entertainment
value over a short term.

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Re: graphics in wlm 2012

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

How did you lable them?
WLM doesn't tell me that there is an attachment.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: netbat66
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: graphics in wlm 2012

is this a bug?
i have labeled most of the status graphics. like the read and unread, thread
opened and closed.
but after i read a message the graphic will not say read until i alt tab away
and back to wlm then these graphics will read properly.
until i alt tab out and back in none of the read message graphics will speak
after opening only 1 message.


There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.