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Re: Vocalizors and their people
Brenda <bjnite@...>
Yep, Bill, so...who is the voice behind Alex or whoever the Siri male voice is?
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Brenda
On 5/24/2017 3:41 PM, Bill White wrote:
I think what she is asking is, not the name they give the male voice of
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Jaws find and find next
Don H
Running Win 10 64 bit Creator edition and latest version of Jaws. I understand the find command to be either Control F or insert Control F. I also under the find next command to be Insert F3. This works well when in a word document however the find next insert F3 does not work if you are searching a web page. Is there another find next command for searching a web page.
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Re: Vocalizors and their people
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Brenda. Here's what Google says about Siri.
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Many of us are familiar with Apple's iOS assistant - but have you ever thought about the lives behind the voice that answers your queries and requests? Karen Jacobsen, Jon Briggs and Susan Bennett - but you will know them all as Siri. Bill White Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brenda Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Vocalizors and their people so who is male Siri? On 5/24/2017 2:30 PM, Mario wrote: as I know, Karen is Karen Jacobsen of Australia and Daniel is John
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Re: Vocalizors and their people
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
I think what she is asking is, not the name they give the male voice of
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Ceri, but who was the male who did the voiceOvers for the male Ceri, as did Susan Miller for the female voice. Bill White Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Vocalizors and their people I think its Alex. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brenda Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Vocalizors and their people so who is male Siri? On 5/24/2017 2:30 PM, Mario wrote: as I know, Karen is Karen Jacobsen of Australia and Daniel is Johnallowed under it.
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Re: Vocalizors and their people
James Malone
I think its Alex.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brenda Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Vocalizors and their people so who is male Siri? On 5/24/2017 2:30 PM, Mario wrote: as I know, Karen is Karen Jacobsen of Australia and Daniel is Johnallowed under it.
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Re: Vocalizors and their people
Brenda <bjnite@...>
so who is male Siri?
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On 5/24/2017 2:30 PM, Mario wrote:
as I know, Karen is Karen Jacobsen of Australia and Daniel is John
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Re: Big problem with JAWS and Excel.
Michael Mote
Windows 10, Excel 2016!
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Big problem with JAWS and Excel.
Windows version? Excel version? Sent from my iPhone
Good afternoon everyone! I’m working with a client who is having major problems with an Excel spreadsheet. The problem occurs when he is making edits to cells within the spreadsheet. JAWS will stop responding, and then try to reload. Still, he is not able to navigate through the spreadsheet. Eventually, he has to close Excel by going into the task manager, and closing it that way. This is hampering his work. We have performed a JAWS repair, with no luck. We have contacted MS accessibility, and they say they are able to navigate through the spreadsheet, with JAWS still running. I would appreciate any suggestions as to how to resolve this one. He is running the current build of JAWS 18 that was released on Monday of this week. Thanks in advance for any help!
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Re: Big problem with JAWS and Excel.
Dave...
Windows version? Excel version? Dave Sent from my iPhone
On May 24, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Michael Mote <miketmote73@...> wrote:
Good afternoon everyone! I’m working with a client who is having major problems with an Excel spreadsheet. The problem occurs when he is making edits to cells within the spreadsheet. JAWS will stop responding, and then try to reload. Still, he is not able to navigate through the spreadsheet. Eventually, he has to close Excel by going into the task manager, and closing it that way. This is hampering his work. We have performed a JAWS repair, with no luck. We have contacted MS accessibility, and they say they are able to navigate through the spreadsheet, with JAWS still running. I would appreciate any suggestions as to how to resolve this one. He is running the current build of JAWS 18 that was released on Monday of this week. Thanks in advance for any help!
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Big problem with JAWS and Excel.
Michael Mote
Good afternoon everyone! I’m working with a client who is having major problems with an Excel spreadsheet. The problem occurs when he is making edits to cells within the spreadsheet. JAWS will stop responding, and then try to reload. Still, he is not able to navigate through the spreadsheet. Eventually, he has to close Excel by going into the task manager, and closing it that way. This is hampering his work. We have performed a JAWS repair, with no luck. We have contacted MS accessibility, and they say they are able to navigate through the spreadsheet, with JAWS still running. I would appreciate any suggestions as to how to resolve this one. He is running the current build of JAWS 18 that was released on Monday of this week. Thanks in advance for any help!
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Accessible Software
Miranda Brown
Hello Everyone,
I am new to the group and have some questions J Does anyone use JAWS with Quickbooks? Does anyone use JAWS with the PSPP statistical software?
Thank you
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Re: tracking
Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
I don't think FS would do this first of all and second no it doesn't need the web to be used.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:22 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: tracking Has the subject ever came up about FS being able through jaws to track what you do while using jaws? Does jaws have to be able to connect to the web to work?
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Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Tim, please accept heart-felt condolences for both of you. I haven’t had the greatest year in the world, and don’t really have my land legs yet. But God promised me, as he did St. Paul, that he would give me the strength I so badly need.
Ted
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please keep the subject line up to date.
Getting a bit over the top, methinkx. Sent from my iPhone
Maybe we can leave it as agreeing to disagree. I note that only a small fraction of the nearly 700 members on this list do any posting, probably well below 5%, and the 95% would greatly benefit and appreciate from the tiny burden and courtesy of asking those 5% to use more specific, meaningful, and up to date subject lines. I have said my peace!
Tim Ford
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
And in an ideal world, we'd have all attended those classes. since we didn't, and since it's presently not harming anything, see my previous post.
James, List Admin
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Tim Ford Hi James,
I will contact you in the future. In the past, when I did my occasional subject line changes, I often got a thank you note from the administrator. Frankly I think the guidelines need to be tightened, although all I am asking for should be considered as nothing more than simple respect for other people’s time and effort. I have been a list moderator, and would not do so again, because of getting notes from grumpy people like me! Frankly though, I think this is such a large membership list that we need as a community to ask those very few individuals to simply follow the basic rules I learned in my office email class. They said to make the subject line descriptive so the recipient could decide whether they needed to read it. They also said to explain up at the very beginning enough so that the reader could then decide to break off and move on.
Tim Ford
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
While this is a discussion list, I have had to close one or two threads down for getting too far off the rails in recent days. So long as we're mindful of the topic of the list, I see no problem with the thread's continuation. While the subject line could stand to be a bit more informative, there is no list policy requiring it. As such, unless it begins to cause problems, I will not mandate a change.
In future, I would strongly advise issues regarding list administration be brought to me directly. If an administrative decision needs to be made, I will make that decision. If you would like to have a part in making that decision, I have been known to accept interested parties as list moderators - provided those interested parties are not solely interested in simply making that decision. If administrative issues continue to be brought to the list at large, you will be in violation of list policies and handled accordingly.
James, List Admin
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Tim Ford Hi Folks,
My gosh, a I know I am sounding grumpy, but I am. A significant number of discussion threads on this list recently have either meaningless, as with this one, or subject lines that were originally correct, but the thread has gone far away from that subject. Many of us just cannot keep up on a list like this without being able to use the subject line to decide if it is a note we want to read. All of us should make it our responsibility to edit a subject line when we add to a thread if it is appropriate to change. Also, please do not even initiate a thread with a subject line like this one “Do not have liquids when listening to this”
Thanks, Tim Ford
From:
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On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:30 pm, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote: God forbid we enjoy ourselves while working on a spreadsheet. If you can enjoy yourself "while working on a spreadsheet" with any inducement then you're a better person than I am! Excel (and it's analogs) are the very definition of
weary work.
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Re: Please keep the subject line up to date.
James Homuth
Your
advice is appreciated, but not required. particularly as that has already been
done.
James,
List Admin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel Sent: May-24-17 3:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please keep the subject line up to date. You have the ability to stop this and many of us are as frustrated as you are and have been holding our tongues. -- Brian Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit
Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.
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Then please take it up with Mr. Ford.
You have the ability to stop this and many of us are as frustrated as you are and have been holding our tongues. -- Brian Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit
Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.
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Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
This was a 3D, called Lucid 3D. It was radical for DOS. It was, perhaps, the coolest spreadsheet I ever used.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 2:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this Yes, the formulas are what make spread sheets invaluable. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:02 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this I haven’t made serious use of a spreadsheet for a good while. Around here it’s mostly tabular. During my university days I designed a really handy grade sheet. When I entered the last exam grade, I was done. I had set up several 3D associations, so averaging (combining book reports, regular exams, mid-term, and final—was done according to preset formulas. Ted From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:30 pm, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote: God forbid we enjoy ourselves while working on a spreadsheet. If you can enjoy yourself "while working on a spreadsheet" with any inducement then you're a better person than I am! Excel (and it's analogs) are the very definition of weary work. -- Brian Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.
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Re: change of heart on caps lock as modifier
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
That's for sure. I think I've seen one app in 31 years that actually uses it, and that's to clear the screen for a password reset.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 2:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: change of heart on caps lock as modifier Scroll Lock would be a good one to use, because as far as I am concerned, it is definitely expendable. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:44 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: change of heart on caps lock as modifier Well, I went back and tried the caps lock key again. This time, it worked as it should. Now, if I use caps-J, the Jaws window opens. It has worked every time I pressed it this morning. My biggest drawback was that I could not open the Jaws settings before with the caps lock key. Also, for those of us that did not know, and I am not sure why but someone may wish to use this, the scroll lock key can also be used as a modifier. Carol
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Re: Quicken
Stan Holdeman
Keep us posted on how you get along with Q 2017.
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Stan
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:42 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Quicken Thanks to Les and Stan. That sounds about like the access I had with Window Eyes. Quicken is offering a 60-day money back guarantee on trying Quicken 2017 and they say they've revamped the interface, which could go either way on accessibility. I lost a year's worth of Quicken files due to a computer crash last summer, so I'm going to start fresh and maybe given Quicken 2017 a try. I tried the Cash Manager software someone else mentioned and didn't have the patience to figure it out; it was not intuitive. Like Les, I'm mainly tracking spending categories for my accountant and our family budgeting. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Quicken Hi Robin, I'm using it for downloading of transactions into various accounts. You can tab through the check registries, but often, double entries are read. Accessibility needs lots of work. As mentioned, Intuit sold the Quicken product to Quicken itself. The web site is quicken.com. They provide support, but it depends on who you get when you call. I use it now because I want to categorize transactions for tax purposes for our accountant. If there was another viable option, I'd take it. I will probably add investment accounts to my accounts list, something I don't think other programs support. Cash Management had some potential, but they didn't support the Quicken format, and there was poor follow-up from their contact when I approached them about this issue. Every package I know of supports the Quicken format, so that was disappointing. Hope this helps. Les -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 4:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Quicken Anyone using JAWS with Quicken? I'll be moving to JAWS from Window-Eyes, which has some level of accessibility with the personal Quicken. Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance 720-304-1060 | Robin_Van_Lant@key.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Please keep the subject line up to date.
James Homuth
This
is being delt with off-list, as I requested it be yesterday. I've about had my
fill of making that request multiple times.
James,
List Admin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave... Sent: May-24-17 3:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please keep the subject line up to date. Getting a bit over the top, methinkx.
Dave Sent from my iPhone Maybe we can leave it as agreeing to disagree. I note that only a small fraction of the nearly 700 members on this list do any posting, probably well below 5%, and the 95% would greatly benefit and appreciate from the tiny burden and courtesy of asking those 5% to use more specific, meaningful, and up to date subject lines. I have said my peace!
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
James Homuth And in an ideal world, we'd have all attended those classes. since we didn't, and since it's presently not harming anything, see my previous post. James, List Admin From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tim Ford Hi James,
I will contact you in the future. In the past, when I did my occasional subject line changes, I often got a thank you note from the administrator. Frankly I think the guidelines need to be tightened, although all I am asking for should be considered as nothing more than simple respect for other people’s time and effort. I have been a list moderator, and would not do so again, because of getting notes from grumpy people like me! Frankly though, I think this is such a large membership list that we need as a community to ask those very few individuals to simply follow the basic rules I learned in my office email class. They said to make the subject line descriptive so the recipient could decide whether they needed to read it. They also said to explain up at the very beginning enough so that the reader could then decide to break off and move on.
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
James Homuth While this is a discussion list, I have had to close one or two threads down for getting too far off the rails in recent days. So long as we're mindful of the topic of the list, I see no problem with the thread's continuation. While the subject line could stand to be a bit more informative, there is no list policy requiring it. As such, unless it begins to cause problems, I will not mandate a change. In future, I would strongly advise issues regarding list administration be brought to me directly. If an administrative decision needs to be made, I will make that decision. If you would like to have a part in making that decision, I have been known to accept interested parties as list moderators - provided those interested parties are not solely interested in simply making that decision. If administrative issues continue to be brought to the list at large, you will be in violation of list policies and handled accordingly. James, List Admin From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tim Ford Hi Folks,
My gosh, a I know I am sounding grumpy, but I am. A significant number of discussion threads on this list recently have either meaningless, as with this one, or subject lines that were originally correct, but the thread has gone far away from that subject. Many of us just cannot keep up on a list like this without being able to use the subject line to decide if it is a note we want to read. All of us should make it our responsibility to edit a subject line when we add to a thread if it is appropriate to change. Also, please do not even initiate a thread with a subject line like this one “Do not have liquids when listening to this”
Thanks, Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:30 pm, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote: God forbid we enjoy ourselves while working on a spreadsheet. If you can enjoy yourself "while working on a spreadsheet" with any
inducement then you're a better person than I am! Excel (and it's analogs)
are the very definition of weary work.
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Re: Please keep the subject line up to date.
Dave...
Getting a bit over the top, methinkx. Dave Sent from my iPhone
On May 24, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
Maybe we can leave it as agreeing to disagree. I note that only a small fraction of the nearly 700 members on this list do any posting, probably well below 5%, and the 95% would greatly benefit and appreciate from the tiny burden and courtesy of asking those 5% to use more specific, meaningful, and up to date subject lines. I have said my peace!
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
And in an ideal world, we'd have all attended those classes. since we didn't, and since it's presently not harming anything, see my previous post.
James, List Admin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford Hi James,
I will contact you in the future. In the past, when I did my occasional subject line changes, I often got a thank you note from the administrator. Frankly I think the guidelines need to be tightened, although all I am asking for should be considered as nothing more than simple respect for other people’s time and effort. I have been a list moderator, and would not do so again, because of getting notes from grumpy people like me! Frankly though, I think this is such a large membership list that we need as a community to ask those very few individuals to simply follow the basic rules I learned in my office email class. They said to make the subject line descriptive so the recipient could decide whether they needed to read it. They also said to explain up at the very beginning enough so that the reader could then decide to break off and move on.
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
While this is a discussion list, I have had to close one or two threads down for getting too far off the rails in recent days. So long as we're mindful of the topic of the list, I see no problem with the thread's continuation. While the subject line could stand to be a bit more informative, there is no list policy requiring it. As such, unless it begins to cause problems, I will not mandate a change.
In future, I would strongly advise issues regarding list administration be brought to me directly. If an administrative decision needs to be made, I will make that decision. If you would like to have a part in making that decision, I have been known to accept interested parties as list moderators - provided those interested parties are not solely interested in simply making that decision. If administrative issues continue to be brought to the list at large, you will be in violation of list policies and handled accordingly.
James, List Admin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford Hi Folks,
My gosh, a I know I am sounding grumpy, but I am. A significant number of discussion threads on this list recently have either meaningless, as with this one, or subject lines that were originally correct, but the thread has gone far away from that subject. Many of us just cannot keep up on a list like this without being able to use the subject line to decide if it is a note we want to read. All of us should make it our responsibility to edit a subject line when we add to a thread if it is appropriate to change. Also, please do not even initiate a thread with a subject line like this one “Do not have liquids when listening to this”
Thanks, Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:30 pm, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote: God forbid we enjoy ourselves while working on a spreadsheet. If you can enjoy yourself "while working on a spreadsheet" with any inducement then you're a better person than I am! Excel (and it's analogs) are the very definition of weary work.
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Re: Please keep the subject line up to date.
Tim Ford
Maybe we can leave it as agreeing to disagree. I note that only a small fraction of the nearly 700 members on this list do any posting, probably well below 5%, and the 95% would greatly benefit and appreciate from the tiny burden and courtesy of asking those 5% to use more specific, meaningful, and up to date subject lines. I have said my peace!
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please change the subject line! Do not have liquids when listening to this
And in an ideal world, we'd have all attended those classes. since we didn't, and since it's presently not harming anything, see my previous post.
James, List Admin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford Hi James,
I will contact you in the future. In the past, when I did my occasional subject line changes, I often got a thank you note from the administrator. Frankly I think the guidelines need to be tightened, although all I am asking for should be considered as nothing more than simple respect for other people’s time and effort. I have been a list moderator, and would not do so again, because of getting notes from grumpy people like me! Frankly though, I think this is such a large membership list that we need as a community to ask those very few individuals to simply follow the basic rules I learned in my office email class. They said to make the subject line descriptive so the recipient could decide whether they needed to read it. They also said to explain up at the very beginning enough so that the reader could then decide to break off and move on.
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
While this is a discussion list, I have had to close one or two threads down for getting too far off the rails in recent days. So long as we're mindful of the topic of the list, I see no problem with the thread's continuation. While the subject line could stand to be a bit more informative, there is no list policy requiring it. As such, unless it begins to cause problems, I will not mandate a change.
In future, I would strongly advise issues regarding list administration be brought to me directly. If an administrative decision needs to be made, I will make that decision. If you would like to have a part in making that decision, I have been known to accept interested parties as list moderators - provided those interested parties are not solely interested in simply making that decision. If administrative issues continue to be brought to the list at large, you will be in violation of list policies and handled accordingly.
James, List Admin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford Hi Folks,
My gosh, a I know I am sounding grumpy, but I am. A significant number of discussion threads on this list recently have either meaningless, as with this one, or subject lines that were originally correct, but the thread has gone far away from that subject. Many of us just cannot keep up on a list like this without being able to use the subject line to decide if it is a note we want to read. All of us should make it our responsibility to edit a subject line when we add to a thread if it is appropriate to change. Also, please do not even initiate a thread with a subject line like this one “Do not have liquids when listening to this”
Thanks, Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:30 pm, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote: God forbid we enjoy ourselves while working on a spreadsheet. If you can enjoy yourself "while working on a spreadsheet" with any inducement then you're a better person than I am! Excel (and it's analogs) are the very definition of weary work.
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