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locked Re: Please change the subject line! Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

You do sound grumpy, and demanding.

"Fun threads" do come into existence and are long because they are popular.  Thread drift on a thread like this one, which had amusement as its primary purpose, is inevitable.

I suggest you look at the links at the end of each and every message, especially "Mute this Topic," as it's not up to the cohort to manage your e-mail for you when the tools are already in your hands.  Learn to use them.

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Re: system tray

Don H
 

So if I simply tab around until I get to the system tray and arrow down all my system tray items read just fine.

On 5/23/2017 6:37 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
It works but you have to set them to be visible in the tray. I usually just check the show all icons in notification tray.
On 5/23/2017 4:27 PM, Don H wrote:
The help file regarding Jaws keystrokes says that either Jaws key F11 or control shift F11 is supposed to read all the items in the system tray. It simply doesn't work. If either is used you will get a list of two items when in fact in my case there is eight items in the system tray.
How often does FS check to see if their keystrokes really work?



Re: Audio Ducking is working in reverse in JAWS 18 and Windows 10 1703.

Kevin Minor
 

Hi..

 

Audio ducking isn’t on.  I hit INSERT+SPACE, D to double check this.

 

Thanks for the thought.

 

Kevin


Re: system tray

David Moore
 

Yes, I do too.

It works great if you do that!

Have a great one, guys!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: system tray

 

It works but you have to set them to be visible in the tray. I usually

just check the show all icons in notification tray.

On 5/23/2017 4:27 PM, Don H wrote:

> The help file regarding Jaws keystrokes says that either Jaws key F11

> or control shift F11 is supposed to read all the items in the system

> tray. It simply doesn't work.  If either is used you will get a list

> of two items when in fact in my case there is eight items in the

> system tray.

> How often does FS check to see if their keystrokes really work?

>

 

 

 

 


Re: system tray

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

It works but you have to set them to be visible in the tray. I usually just check the show all icons in notification tray.

On 5/23/2017 4:27 PM, Don H wrote:
The help file regarding Jaws keystrokes says that either Jaws key F11 or control shift F11 is supposed to read all the items in the system tray. It simply doesn't work. If either is used you will get a list of two items when in fact in my case there is eight items in the system tray.
How often does FS check to see if their keystrokes really work?


Re: system tray

David Moore
 

Hi,

I just tried:

Insert+F11, and all of my system tray items show up in a list. I just press Windows+B and access the tray that way, but my JAWS command does work, I have the latest JAWS and Win10 Creators update.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: system tray

 

The help file regarding Jaws keystrokes says that either Jaws key F11 or

control shift F11 is supposed to read all the items in the system tray.

It simply doesn't work.  If either is used you will get a list of two

items when in fact in my case there is eight items in the system tray.

How often does FS check to see if their keystrokes really work?

 

 

 


reporting jaws bugs

Don H
 

How do you report Jaws bugs?


system tray

Don H
 

The help file regarding Jaws keystrokes says that either Jaws key F11 or control shift F11 is supposed to read all the items in the system tray. It simply doesn't work. If either is used you will get a list of two items when in fact in my case there is eight items in the system tray.
How often does FS check to see if their keystrokes really work?


locked Please change the subject line! Do not have liquids when listening to this

Tim Ford
 

Hi Folks,

 

My gosh, a I know I am sounding grumpy, but I am.  A significant number of discussion threads on this list recently have either meaningless, as with this one, or subject lines that were originally correct, but the thread has gone far away from that subject.  Many of us just cannot keep up on a list like this without being able to use the subject line to decide if it is a note we want to read.  All of us should make it our responsibility to edit a subject line when we add to a thread if it is appropriate to change.

Also, please do not even initiate a thread with a subject line like this one “Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

 

Thanks,

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:30 pm, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

God forbid we enjoy ourselves while working on a spreadsheet.

If you can enjoy yourself "while working on a spreadsheet" with any inducement then you're a better person than I am!  Excel (and it's analogs) are the very definition of weary work
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Re: copy and paste again

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Mario,
 
You're not wrong, but you just learned something.  Rather than me explaining, just give the Insert, shift, + arrows keystrokes a try.  I just used the keystroke to copy this word:  explaining
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: copy and paste again

Mike, I always thought shift+control+right moves to and selected the
next word, shift+control+left arrow moves to and selected the prior
word. and I don't recall the insert/JAWSKey ever being a part of the
command. am I wrong? please explain if I am.

------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 4:35 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: copy and paste again

Hi Don,

Shift + right arrow only selects the next character, use, Insert / Jaws key,
shift + right arrow, this command selects the next word.

Selecting / Highlighing text

Selecting a letter/character;  Shift +left arrow selects prior character.
Shift + right arrow selects next character.

Selecting prior word;  Insert/Jaws key, shift + left arrow or control,
shift, + left arrow.

Selecting next word;  Insert/Jaws key, shift, + right arrow or control,
shift, + right arrow.

Selecting text from cursor to beginning of line;  Shift + Home/7 key on
number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to end of line;  Shift +End/1 on the number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to the end of a document;  Control, shift, +
end/1 key on the number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to the beginning of a document;  Control, shift,
+ home/7 key on the number pad.

Selecting more than 1 line of text;  Hold the Shift key down while arrowing
up or down until you have selected/highlighted the lines you want.

Selecting all text;  Control + A.  This keystroke will select all the text
in a document no matter the size or length of the document.

to select a page at a time: shift page up or down

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:52 AM
Subject: copy and paste again


OK surely copy and paste works better than my results so far.  Today I
went to my cell phone carriers web page and looked up my billing info.
I found the amount due and used shift right arrow to select the amount
and then control c to copy the four digit number.  The number I tried to
copy was 51.52.  When I tried to paste the number on another web page to
pay the bill a control V gave the amount 2.00.  Not even close.  Surely
I am doing something wrong to get such poor results.
Thanks








Re: copy and paste again

Mario
 

Mike, I always thought shift+control+right moves to and selected the
next word, shift+control+left arrow moves to and selected the prior
word. and I don't recall the insert/JAWSKey ever being a part of the
command. am I wrong? please explain if I am.

------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 4:35 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: copy and paste again

Hi Don,

Shift + right arrow only selects the next character, use, Insert / Jaws key,
shift + right arrow, this command selects the next word.

Selecting / Highlighing text

Selecting a letter/character; Shift +left arrow selects prior character.
Shift + right arrow selects next character.

Selecting prior word; Insert/Jaws key, shift + left arrow or control,
shift, + left arrow.

Selecting next word; Insert/Jaws key, shift, + right arrow or control,
shift, + right arrow.

Selecting text from cursor to beginning of line; Shift + Home/7 key on
number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to end of line; Shift +End/1 on the number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to the end of a document; Control, shift, +
end/1 key on the number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to the beginning of a document; Control, shift,
+ home/7 key on the number pad.

Selecting more than 1 line of text; Hold the Shift key down while arrowing
up or down until you have selected/highlighted the lines you want.

Selecting all text; Control + A. This keystroke will select all the text
in a document no matter the size or length of the document.

to select a page at a time: shift page up or down

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:52 AM
Subject: copy and paste again


OK surely copy and paste works better than my results so far. Today I
went to my cell phone carriers web page and looked up my billing info.
I found the amount due and used shift right arrow to select the amount
and then control c to copy the four digit number. The number I tried to
copy was 51.52. When I tried to paste the number on another web page to
pay the bill a control V gave the amount 2.00. Not even close. Surely
I am doing something wrong to get such poor results.
Thanks


Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:30 pm, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:
God forbid we enjoy ourselves while working on a spreadsheet.

If you can enjoy yourself "while working on a spreadsheet" with any inducement then you're a better person than I am!  Excel (and it's analogs) are the very definition of weary work
--
Brian        Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

 

        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.


Configuring braille display hotkeys

Vaughan Dodd
 

Greetings.

I have the luxury of being able to use different braille displays with JFW, and at the moment I am running the Edge from HIMS.

Having shifted from Window-Eyes, I am struggling with how to configure display hotkeys.

I noticde in the keyboard manager that there is a braile function called auto advance, but keys are not assigned to it.

In the details around this, it seems to call up a script. But: no option to add braille display commands.

Perhaps i'm looking in the wrong place: help please.

Vaughan.


Re: Quicken

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Cash manager is a full fledged accounting app that is completely accessible. Although it will cost more than 40.00. :)

On 5/23/2017 2:34 PM, Milton Ota wrote:
At the present time I don't think there is access to using JAWS with Quicken. I recently heard that Intuit was sold to another company so we can only hope that they will make the software accessable.

If you want a check writing program that is fully accessable and you can setup multiple accounts to keep track and write check, the only program of that sort is the Money Talk from the American Printing House. A download was priced at $39.99 and the disk would cost another $10.00 more. If you do use the download version, you will need to contact the American Printing House to provide payment to get the registration key.

Original message:

Anyone using JAWS with Quicken? I’ll be moving to JAWS from Window-Eyes, which has some level of accessibility with the personal Quicken.
Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager
Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
720-304-1060 | Robin_Van_Lant@key.com
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Re: indexing

netbat66
 

about the only time jaws speaks the indexes is if i alt tab away and back to the file list then it will anounce the index where i am but not continue when i arrow up or down the list. where ever the index setting is it says its on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: indexing

So here is what I am finding. I know all screen readers are different
but with my current settings both Window Eyes and NVDA will read the
index of the files in file explorer and Thunderbird. Jaws is the only
one that doesn't.
For file explorer I have tried both the list view and detail view and
neither work with JAWS. If there any settings I need to change I would
appreciate knowing them. The insert tab or insert up arrow does not
provide the index.


Re: Quicken

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

As I understand it Quicken is now accessible with some pricey scripts...

On 5/23/2017 1:53 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io wrote:

Anyone using JAWS with Quicken?  I’ll be moving to JAWS from Window-Eyes, which has some level of accessibility with the personal Quicken. 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager

Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance

720-304-1060 | Robin_Van_Lant@...

 



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Re: Quicken

Stan Holdeman
 

Yes, Robin, I am using Quicken 2016 with jaws 18. The level of accessibility is pretty low in my view. I have a little sight, so I can use Magic along with Jaws. That keeps me going in Quicken.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 4:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Quicken

 

Anyone using JAWS with Quicken?  I’ll be moving to JAWS from Window-Eyes, which has some level of accessibility with the personal Quicken. 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager

Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance

720-304-1060 | Robin_Van_Lant@...

 



This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

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Re: Quicken

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

At the present time I don't think there is access to using JAWS with Quicken. I recently heard that Intuit was sold to another company so we can only hope that they will make the software accessable.

If you want a check writing program that is fully accessable and you can setup multiple accounts to keep track and write check, the only program of that sort is the Money Talk from the American Printing House. A download was priced at $39.99 and the disk would cost another $10.00 more. If you do use the download version, you will need to contact the American Printing House to provide payment to get the registration key.

Original message:

Anyone using JAWS with Quicken? I’ll be moving to JAWS from Window-Eyes, which has some level of accessibility with the personal Quicken.
Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager
Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
720-304-1060 | Robin_Van_Lant@key.com
This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.
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Re: voices and pitch

David & his pack of dogs
 

Agreed. I just need to learn the ropes with JAWS. Specifically using office 365 with JAWS. How can I envoice clients if I have no idea how JAWS works with 365? There is a seminare at the end of this month from F S, that I have registered for.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

Hi David,

I think this email was great. All dogs need a good place to unwind.
And, those Jaws users have a great opportunity for learning new things.

Carol



On 5/23/2017 5:03 PM, David & his pack of dogs wrote:
We board unruly dogs. Dogs that no other facility will board because the dog has issues such as growling at humans and/or other dogs because of being sequestered and, they basically have never been propperly socialized in the first place. Or, have been terrorized by other dogs or humans. We have 2 staff dogs on the premisis at all times who help with the rehabilitation process, and have had as many as 5 boarders at one time. To keep this JAWS related, yes, they all have Jaws. Huge Grin.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

You know, if they ever get the synthesized voices perfected, I wondered if they were going to put talking books on them.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

So, how many dogs do you have? Haahaahaa



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David & his pack of dogs
Sent: May 23, 2017 7:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch



I don’t know if this has been covered by you Carol but, to change the pitch, that feature is under the spell upper case function settings.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: voices and pitch



Hi Sieghard,

OK, thanks. This makes sense. I will try it. I sort of like all of the cursors sounding the same, but I suppose it would have advantages with separate voices.

Carol

On 5/22/2017 5:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

You can’t adjust pitch for the All Context voice, you have to be on one of the other 4, PC cursor voice, Jaws cursor voice, keyboard voice or tutor and message voice.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: voices and pitch



Hi Carol,



Try the following:

1. Press, Insert / Jaws key + J, to open the Jaws context menu.

2. Press the letter, O, to open Options.

3. Press the letter, V, to open Voices, or arrow down to it & press enter.

4. Press enter on, Voice Adjustment, & tab down to, Voice Adjust. Here you can make the pitch change amongst many other setting adjustments. Make sure to Apply & Okay your changes.

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
<mailto:carollablady=aol.com@groups.io>

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:27 PM

Subject: voices and pitch



Hi,

Although I am getting used to playing around with voices and their
settings, I have not been able to change the pitch for any of them. Is
this possible? For example, the Reid voice would be reasonable except
it is a bit too bassy. On the other hand, Glenn sounds better, but this
voice is too high to suite me. Is there a way I can change the
settings? Also, does pitch work for other synthes? Thanks.

Carol













Re: Pros and cons of the various JAWS voice options.

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

I agree whole heartily Tim. Eloquence is a voice that I can get a ton of work done fast. For just messing around and perhaps having a little fun in the process; I have other voices I use.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Pros and cons of the various JAWS voice options.

 

Just changing the subject line to describe the actual subject of this discussion. 

Also, I still prefer Eloquence since I run JAWS pretty fast, and I have yet to find any of the more human sounding voices that can be run that fast without turning to mush!

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

God forbid we enjoy ourselves while working on a spreadsheet.  All kidding aside, I’ve already said I like Eloquence for anything involving Say All.

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 07:21 am, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

My female manager heard the senthetic voice and said, “Can’t you get a sexy man to be the voice?  Does it have to be so robotic?”

That may have been a ridiculous question then, but not so much now.

There are some very "sexy" sounding voices available for speech synthesis that sound virtually human.  This is particularly so on GPS devices, and some of these voices are a hoot (unless someone is easily offended by directions being given in very suggestive, as opposed to demanding, tones).
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