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Re: closing programs

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Sometimes using the pass key through (Jaws Key+3 on the number row) works for me when I use Alt+F4. Of course this would indicate that Jaws somehow blocks Alt+F4.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: closing programs

Thanks for that tip. As you say, that happens to us all.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: closing programs

No idea, but it happens to us all. Press alt+spacebar for the system menu, and arrow to close. That usually works.
At 08:08 AM 5/23/2017, you wrote:
Being a newbee I may have put Jaws in some mode unknowingly
to get
these results. When I have lets say IE open and try to use
alt F4 to
close it it won't close. I can use window key M to get
back to
desktop but if I then bring back IE from the task bar alt
F4 may or may
not work.
Any suggestions as to what is going on here?
Thanks
Re: copy and paste again

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

What browser do you use?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: copy and paste again

OK surely copy and paste works better than my results so far. Today I went to my cell phone carriers web page and looked up my billing info.
I found the amount due and used shift right arrow to select the amount and then control c to copy the four digit number. The number I tried to copy was 51.52. When I tried to paste the number on another web page to pay the bill a control V gave the amount 2.00. Not even close. Surely I am doing something wrong to get such poor results.
Thanks
Re: indexing

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I am not sure why this isn't working for you, a Say Line for me includes the "1 of 4" or whatever you have. Here is an example from one of my folders, I use Jaws speech history which I first cleared, then I did my thing and let Jaws speak and after that went into speech history with the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by H where I did a select all and Control+C for copy:

First I am just using the arrows:
DHL
Lumber Yard
Bigrock 02-10-2017
Christmas 2016 Ad
Dental Invoices 2016 and 2017

Now I am on the file Dental Invoices" and I do a say line:
Dental Invoices 2016 and 2017
‎5/‎2/‎2017 ‏‎10:24 AM Adobe Acrobat Document 71 KB
5 of 17

Say Line on DHL which is a folder not a file:
DHL
‎5/‎2/‎2017 ‏‎7:53 PM File folder
1 of 17

Now I use Jaws Key+Tab, the keyboard help describes it as follows: "Says the current Window + the associated prompt label":
DHL
‎5/‎2/‎2017 ‏‎7:53 PM File folder
1 of 17
Date created: ‎11/‎16/‎2016 ‏‎8:50 PM
Size: 1.78 MB
Files: DHL Express eMailShip, DHL Volumetric Calculator, ...
There are other files in that folder, but visually you only see the first two as well.

Regards,
Sieghard

----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: indexing

Thanks for your replay but neither of these options will do more than read the file you are on no index info is included.

On 5/23/2017 8:44 AM, Mario wrote:
in a list of files in a folder, try pressing insert+up arrow to read
the current line, or if that doesn't work, try pressing insert+tab
which "Says the current window and the associated prompt label."

-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H [mailto:lmddh50@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: indexing

Is there any way to get Jaws to include index? For example when you
open file explorer it would be nice to hear file 1 of whatever? This
function is available both in WE and NVDA.
Thanks



.
An alternative to using the numpad

David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
 

I was given an external keyboard for my lap top.  I have no idea how it was done but, the numlock has been converted to a paste key.  This means to use the numpad is virtually impossible to navigate with JAWS.  To arrow to the right with the numpad, just gets you number 6.  Is there an alternative to using the numpad with JAWS 18?   
copy and paste again

Don H
 

OK surely copy and paste works better than my results so far. Today I went to my cell phone carriers web page and looked up my billing info. I found the amount due and used shift right arrow to select the amount and then control c to copy the four digit number. The number I tried to copy was 51.52. When I tried to paste the number on another web page to pay the bill a control V gave the amount 2.00. Not even close. Surely I am doing something wrong to get such poor results.
Thanks
Re: jfw scripts

William Vandervest
 

using win10 1703 jfw latest update and windows live mail and jaws won't tell me if a message is read or unread and doesn't give me the status of threads open or closed or even tell me if the message is part of a thread
thanks





timelord09@...

There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See

William and Leader Dog Lynerd

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:02
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jfw scripts

scripts are for making programs more usable for us blind users. got a
particular program you are having problems using? maybe there are
scripts, maybe not. maybe the problems can be dealt with other than
finding a script. if you got a problem, let the list know, maybe we can
troubleshoot it.




-------- Original Message --------
From: William Vandervest [mailto:timelord09@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:18 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jfw scripts

i keep hearing about scripts in jaws, where are they located, and where
can i find new or updated ones?
thanks


timelord09@...

There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See

William and Leader Dog Lynerd
Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

Mich Verrier
 

where is the origenal file? I would like to hear this. from Mich
 

From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this
 

Yep.

 

lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 5/23/2017 11:25 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

That was DecTalk, wasn’t it?  I’ve still got one of those cards around the office.  The commonwealth paid for it back in 1997.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

I bet no one would believe I used to like Huge Harry?

 

lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/23/2017 11:16 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

Where, where?

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 07:21 am, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

My female manager heard the senthetic voice and said, “Can’t you get a sexy man to be the voice?  Does it have to be so robotic?”

That may have been a ridiculous question then, but not so much now.

There are some very "sexy" sounding voices available for speech synthesis that sound virtually human.  This is particularly so on GPS devices, and some of these voices are a hoot (unless someone is easily offended by directions being given in very suggestive, as opposed to demanding, tones).
--
Brian        Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

 

        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

 
Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

Maria Campbell
 

Yep.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 5/23/2017 11:25 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

That was DecTalk, wasn’t it?  I’ve still got one of those cards around the office.  The commonwealth paid for it back in 1997.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

I bet no one would believe I used to like Huge Harry?

 

lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/23/2017 11:16 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

Where, where?

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 07:21 am, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

My female manager heard the senthetic voice and said, “Can’t you get a sexy man to be the voice?  Does it have to be so robotic?”

That may have been a ridiculous question then, but not so much now.

There are some very "sexy" sounding voices available for speech synthesis that sound virtually human.  This is particularly so on GPS devices, and some of these voices are a hoot (unless someone is easily offended by directions being given in very suggestive, as opposed to demanding, tones).
--
Brian        Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

 

        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

 
Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That was DecTalk, wasn’t it?  I’ve still got one of those cards around the office.  The commonwealth paid for it back in 1997.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

I bet no one would believe I used to like Huge Harry?

 

lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/23/2017 11:16 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

Where, where?

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 07:21 am, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

My female manager heard the senthetic voice and said, “Can’t you get a sexy man to be the voice?  Does it have to be so robotic?”

That may have been a ridiculous question then, but not so much now.

There are some very "sexy" sounding voices available for speech synthesis that sound virtually human.  This is particularly so on GPS devices, and some of these voices are a hoot (unless someone is easily offended by directions being given in very suggestive, as opposed to demanding, tones).
--
Brian        Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

 

        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

 
unlabeled graphics

Don H
 

am coming across links that say
Link Graphic followed by a bunch of useless numbers. I thought I had Jaws to only voice labeled graphics but these are still read. Is there a way to get Jaws to ignore such links?
Thanks
Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

Maria Campbell
 

I bet no one would believe I used to like Huge Harry?


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 5/23/2017 11:16 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

Where, where?

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 07:21 am, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

My female manager heard the senthetic voice and said, “Can’t you get a sexy man to be the voice?  Does it have to be so robotic?”

That may have been a ridiculous question then, but not so much now.

There are some very "sexy" sounding voices available for speech synthesis that sound virtually human.  This is particularly so on GPS devices, and some of these voices are a hoot (unless someone is easily offended by directions being given in very suggestive, as opposed to demanding, tones).
--
Brian        Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

 

        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.
Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Where, where?

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 07:21 am, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

My female manager heard the senthetic voice and said, “Can’t you get a sexy man to be the voice?  Does it have to be so robotic?”

That may have been a ridiculous question then, but not so much now.

There are some very "sexy" sounding voices available for speech synthesis that sound virtually human.  This is particularly so on GPS devices, and some of these voices are a hoot (unless someone is easily offended by directions being given in very suggestive, as opposed to demanding, tones).
--
Brian        Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

 

        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.
Re: voices and pitch

Carol Smith
 

Hi,

The pitch I am taklkig about is the overall pitch change for the voices.  For example, I think Glenn sounds too trebly and Reid sounds too bassy.  So, I like having the ability to set each voice just the way I like it.  This change only shows up when a specific cursor is chosen.  The pitch for capitalization can be changed with the default for all cursors settings.  The difference is the pitch changes only for the capitalized word under the default cursor setting and it changes for the total voice with the setting I was looking for, and found, with help.  I hope this makes sense to you.

Carol


On 5/23/2017 10:21 AM, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

I don’t know if this has been covered by you Carol but, to change the pitch, that feature is under the spell upper case function settings.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Hi Sieghard,

OK, thanks.  This makes sense.  I will try it.  I sort of like all of the cursors sounding the same, but I suppose it would have advantages with separate voices.

Carol

On 5/22/2017 5:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

You can’t adjust pitch for the All Context voice, you have to be on one of the other 4, PC cursor voice, Jaws cursor voice, keyboard voice or tutor and message voice.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Hi Carol,

 

Try the following:

1. Press, Insert / Jaws key + J, to open the Jaws context menu.

2. Press the letter, O, to open Options.

3. Press the letter, V, to open Voices, or arrow down to it & press enter.           

4. Press enter on, Voice Adjustment, & tab down to, Voice Adjust.  Here you can make the pitch change amongst many other setting adjustments.  Make sure to Apply & Okay your changes.

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:27 PM

Subject: voices and pitch

 

Hi,

Although I am getting used to playing around with voices and their
settings, I have not been able to change the pitch for any of them.  Is
this possible?  For example, the Reid voice would be reasonable except
it is a bit too bassy.  On the other hand, Glenn sounds better, but this
voice is too high to suite me.  Is there a way I can change the
settings?  Also, does pitch work for other synthes?  Thanks.

Carol

 
Re: closing programs

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Thanks for that tip. As you say, that happens to us all.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: closing programs

No idea, but it happens to us all. Press alt+spacebar for
the system menu, and arrow to close. That usually works.
At 08:08 AM 5/23/2017, you wrote:
Being a newbee I may have put Jaws in some mode unknowingly
to get
these results. When I have lets say IE open and try to use
alt F4 to
close it it won't close. I can use window key M to get
back to
desktop but if I then bring back IE from the task bar alt
F4 may or may
not work.
Any suggestions as to what is going on here?
Thanks
Re: most responsive syn

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I have the same problem with the ears ringing, since the 80's at least.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin kotler
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

This is Marv here. I have a hearing problem and I find eloquence works the best for me. I have tinnitus which means my ears ring all the time; I have used jaws for 26 years or so and find that glen or reed work the best. Have a nice evening.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I like Eloquence and Reid. I've listened to others, but they do not have the clarity to me that Reid has - not like Siri and Talk Back do.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I can't stand the compact voices. Guess I am hard to please? LOL. It is interesting and sad in a way because I went with W E originally because they had more human sounding voices as opposed to the synthetic voices on JAWS.
I had no idea JAWS had such a variety of voices. I was never told by JAWS users about the extra voices. It is probably because they like the Eloquence voice so, never explored the other voices. Who knows.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

Not always, but I have found the crankiness goes away from the female voices some if you use the compact or whatever it is they call the lesser-quality voices.


On 5/22/2017 10:04 AM, David & his pack of dogs wrote:
Melcom is my primary voice. I do use Ava as well. This is just a
preference but, I found a lot of the female voices sound cranky like
they are having a bad day. Again, that is a personal preference.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Marquette, Ed
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

Synthesizer preferences are totally subjective. The Vocalizer voices
are all pretty responsive now. They sound nice, for the most part,
but when they miss a word, they miss it badly, and I'm talking about
some pretty common words.
Eloquence and DecTalk Access both, by comparison, sound a little
robotic (That's because you've never heard an Echo or an Echo PC from
Street Electronics in the 80's). Eloquence and DecTalk, to me, are
the clear champions when it comes to responsiveness. I think that, on
average, they do a better job on common words than do the Vocalizer voices.
In the last decade, for various reasons related to work, I have had to
switch back and forth between JAWS and WindowEyes, and my wife has a
Macintosh.
My synthesizer of choice is still good old Eloquence.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Chris G
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I'm using Malcolm, I like him a lot.


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Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 8:52 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: most responsive syn

Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
Would like to get some opinions regarding which is the best and most
responsive syn to use with JAWS I am currently using the vocalizer
Tom high.


That's what I'm using too, and it's responsive enough for daily use.
I'm running the new version released for JAWS 18, not the old 1.x version.









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Re: indexing

Don H
 

Thanks for your replay but neither of these options will do more than read the file you are on no index info is included.

On 5/23/2017 8:44 AM, Mario wrote:
in a list of files in a folder, try pressing insert+up arrow to read the
current line, or if that doesn't work, try pressing insert+tab which
"Says the current window and the associated prompt label."
-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H [mailto:lmddh50@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: indexing
Is there any way to get Jaws to include index? For example when you
open file explorer it would be nice to hear file 1 of whatever? This
function is available both in WE and NVDA.
Thanks
.
Re: Do not have liquids when listening to this

Brian Vogel
 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 07:21 am, David & his pack of dogs wrote:
My female manager heard the senthetic voice and said, “Can’t you get a sexy man to be the voice?  Does it have to be so robotic?”

That may have been a ridiculous question then, but not so much now.

There are some very "sexy" sounding voices available for speech synthesis that sound virtually human.  This is particularly so on GPS devices, and some of these voices are a hoot (unless someone is easily offended by directions being given in very suggestive, as opposed to demanding, tones).
--
Brian        Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

 

        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.
Re: An Alternative to Pitch Change to Indicate Capitalization

Dale Heltzer
 

Thanks for the reminder, Ed.

For those of us with imperfect recall and/or attention, this is helpful.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An Alternative to Pitch Change to Indicate Capitalization

 

Sometimes when I’m distracted (I like to think of that as multitasking), I don’t always catch a pitch change to indicate a capital letter.  Often, that’s just fine.

In a complex agreement with 25 or 30 precisely defined terms, terms that, when used in the specifically defined sense, are capitalized, close enough won’t work.

Whether a term is or is not capitalized can be crucial, and an error can cost a client thousands of dollars.

For those on the list new to JAWS who similarly MUST be certain when a word is capitalized (or in bold or italics), therefore, it might be helpful to know that JAWS has a wonderful proofreading tool called “Sound Scheme.”

These “Schemes” may be reached with JawsKey + Alt + S.  An array of previously defined schemes are available, and you can modify or add your own.  There are two proofreading schemes that I use frequently and they are named fittingly, “Proof Reading.” .

Instead of changing pitch, they say “Cap.”  Pitch changes are used to indicate bold, italics, underlining and so on.

Window-Eyes allowed one fairly easily to change capitalization indication in settings, something that is a challenge in Jaws, but I don’t think Window-Eyes had the equivalent of these sound schemes (though my Window-Eyes knowledge is about 7 years old), which can be invoked with just about 3 keystrokes.

Happy proofing. <SMILE>

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Believe me, I did not figure this out on my own, grin.  I had lots of helpful information from others on the group.  Just trying to pay it forward a little, grin.

I like Samantha compact with my own pitch level.  She reminds me of my iPod now.

Carol

On 5/23/2017 8:59 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

Carol, guess you just contradicted what I said  in another post, and thank you.  I use vocalizer now and again, and will bare that in mind.

 

ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 8:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Thanks Mike,

With the instructions you provided plus the clarification from Sieghard, excuse me if I didn't spell it correctly, I was able to make the pitch changes.  Yes, you can change pitch for other synthes, too.  I am using the Vocalizer compact voices and they work quite well with the pitch changes. 

Thanks again, and take care.

Carol

 

On 5/22/2017 6:25 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,

 

The steps I provided are for Eloquence.  I don't use any other voices, so I'm sorry I didn't mention that.  Now with that being said, if you follow the steps, & when you tab to, Voice Adjust / All Contexts, arrow down to, PC, Jaws, Keyboard, or Tutor & Message cursor options, tab through each of these, & you will find the Voice Pitch Slider.  If you make a change in 1 of these cursors, tab to Apply, & spacebar it to save the change for that cursor.  After you make changes to each cursor Apply them, & when you are working with the last cursor after applying your change, now tab to Okay & press enter to save all your changes & close.

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:01 PM

Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Hi Mike,

OK, this time, I have already gone through all of those steps.  The only pitch change option I can find is for capital letters.  I want to actually adjust the speaking pitch of the selected voice.  I did look through the settings and there is no pitch change for any of the ones I selected.  I have NeoSpeech, Vocalizer, Vocalizer HQ, Eloquence and sapi5.  If I am missing something, I don't know where it is because I did exactly what you suggested.  Thanks for trying, and if you have any other ideas, I will be glad to try them, too.

Carol

 

On 5/22/2017 5:51 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,

 

Try the following:

1. Press, Insert / Jaws key + J, to open the Jaws context menu.

2. Press the letter, O, to open Options.

3. Press the letter, V, to open Voices, or arrow down to it & press enter.           

4. Press enter on, Voice Adjustment, & tab down to, Voice Adjust.  Here you can make the pitch change amongst many other setting adjustments.  Make sure to Apply & Okay your changes.

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:27 PM

Subject: voices and pitch

 

Hi,

Although I am getting used to playing around with voices and their
settings, I have not been able to change the pitch for any of them.  Is
this possible?  For example, the Reid voice would be reasonable except
it is a bit too bassy.  On the other hand, Glenn sounds better, but this
voice is too high to suite me.  Is there a way I can change the
settings?  Also, does pitch work for other synthes?  Thanks.

Carol

 

 

 

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Re: An Alternative to Pitch Change to Indicate Capitalization

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That’s a dandy feature.  In the days before Win 7, I used it to find a restore point.  Now that’s easily done by scrolling down with the PC cursor, but in XP it was considerably more complicated, requiring you to know what was in Bold, as opposed to regular font.  Sound schemes worked every time.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An Alternative to Pitch Change to Indicate Capitalization

 

Sometimes when I’m distracted (I like to think of that as multitasking), I don’t always catch a pitch change to indicate a capital letter.  Often, that’s just fine.

In a complex agreement with 25 or 30 precisely defined terms, terms that, when used in the specifically defined sense, are capitalized, close enough won’t work.

Whether a term is or is not capitalized can be crucial, and an error can cost a client thousands of dollars.

For those on the list new to JAWS who similarly MUST be certain when a word is capitalized (or in bold or italics), therefore, it might be helpful to know that JAWS has a wonderful proofreading tool called “Sound Scheme.”

These “Schemes” may be reached with JawsKey + Alt + S.  An array of previously defined schemes are available, and you can modify or add your own.  There are two proofreading schemes that I use frequently and they are named fittingly, “Proof Reading.” .

Instead of changing pitch, they say “Cap.”  Pitch changes are used to indicate bold, italics, underlining and so on.

Window-Eyes allowed one fairly easily to change capitalization indication in settings, something that is a challenge in Jaws, but I don’t think Window-Eyes had the equivalent of these sound schemes (though my Window-Eyes knowledge is about 7 years old), which can be invoked with just about 3 keystrokes.

Happy proofing. <SMILE>

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Believe me, I did not figure this out on my own, grin.  I had lots of helpful information from others on the group.  Just trying to pay it forward a little, grin.

I like Samantha compact with my own pitch level.  She reminds me of my iPod now.

Carol

On 5/23/2017 8:59 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

Carol, guess you just contradicted what I said  in another post, and thank you.  I use vocalizer now and again, and will bare that in mind.

 

ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 8:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Thanks Mike,

With the instructions you provided plus the clarification from Sieghard, excuse me if I didn't spell it correctly, I was able to make the pitch changes.  Yes, you can change pitch for other synthes, too.  I am using the Vocalizer compact voices and they work quite well with the pitch changes. 

Thanks again, and take care.

Carol

 

On 5/22/2017 6:25 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,

 

The steps I provided are for Eloquence.  I don't use any other voices, so I'm sorry I didn't mention that.  Now with that being said, if you follow the steps, & when you tab to, Voice Adjust / All Contexts, arrow down to, PC, Jaws, Keyboard, or Tutor & Message cursor options, tab through each of these, & you will find the Voice Pitch Slider.  If you make a change in 1 of these cursors, tab to Apply, & spacebar it to save the change for that cursor.  After you make changes to each cursor Apply them, & when you are working with the last cursor after applying your change, now tab to Okay & press enter to save all your changes & close.

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:01 PM

Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Hi Mike,

OK, this time, I have already gone through all of those steps.  The only pitch change option I can find is for capital letters.  I want to actually adjust the speaking pitch of the selected voice.  I did look through the settings and there is no pitch change for any of the ones I selected.  I have NeoSpeech, Vocalizer, Vocalizer HQ, Eloquence and sapi5.  If I am missing something, I don't know where it is because I did exactly what you suggested.  Thanks for trying, and if you have any other ideas, I will be glad to try them, too.

Carol

 

On 5/22/2017 5:51 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,

 

Try the following:

1. Press, Insert / Jaws key + J, to open the Jaws context menu.

2. Press the letter, O, to open Options.

3. Press the letter, V, to open Voices, or arrow down to it & press enter.           

4. Press enter on, Voice Adjustment, & tab down to, Voice Adjust.  Here you can make the pitch change amongst many other setting adjustments.  Make sure to Apply & Okay your changes.

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:27 PM

Subject: voices and pitch

 

Hi,

Although I am getting used to playing around with voices and their
settings, I have not been able to change the pitch for any of them.  Is
this possible?  For example, the Reid voice would be reasonable except
it is a bit too bassy.  On the other hand, Glenn sounds better, but this
voice is too high to suite me.  Is there a way I can change the
settings?  Also, does pitch work for other synthes?  Thanks.

Carol

 

 

 

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An Alternative to Pitch Change to Indicate Capitalization

Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
 

Sometimes when I’m distracted (I like to think of that as multitasking), I don’t always catch a pitch change to indicate a capital letter.  Often, that’s just fine.

In a complex agreement with 25 or 30 precisely defined terms, terms that, when used in the specifically defined sense, are capitalized, close enough won’t work.

Whether a term is or is not capitalized can be crucial, and an error can cost a client thousands of dollars.

For those on the list new to JAWS who similarly MUST be certain when a word is capitalized (or in bold or italics), therefore, it might be helpful to know that JAWS has a wonderful proofreading tool called “Sound Scheme.”

These “Schemes” may be reached with JawsKey + Alt + S.  An array of previously defined schemes are available, and you can modify or add your own.  There are two proofreading schemes that I use frequently and they are named fittingly, “Proof Reading.” .

Instead of changing pitch, they say “Cap.”  Pitch changes are used to indicate bold, italics, underlining and so on.

Window-Eyes allowed one fairly easily to change capitalization indication in settings, something that is a challenge in Jaws, but I don’t think Window-Eyes had the equivalent of these sound schemes (though my Window-Eyes knowledge is about 7 years old), which can be invoked with just about 3 keystrokes.

Happy proofing. <SMILE>

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Believe me, I did not figure this out on my own, grin.  I had lots of helpful information from others on the group.  Just trying to pay it forward a little, grin.

I like Samantha compact with my own pitch level.  She reminds me of my iPod now.

Carol

On 5/23/2017 8:59 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

Carol, guess you just contradicted what I said  in another post, and thank you.  I use vocalizer now and again, and will bare that in mind.

 

ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 8:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Thanks Mike,

With the instructions you provided plus the clarification from Sieghard, excuse me if I didn't spell it correctly, I was able to make the pitch changes.  Yes, you can change pitch for other synthes, too.  I am using the Vocalizer compact voices and they work quite well with the pitch changes. 

Thanks again, and take care.

Carol

 

On 5/22/2017 6:25 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,

 

The steps I provided are for Eloquence.  I don't use any other voices, so I'm sorry I didn't mention that.  Now with that being said, if you follow the steps, & when you tab to, Voice Adjust / All Contexts, arrow down to, PC, Jaws, Keyboard, or Tutor & Message cursor options, tab through each of these, & you will find the Voice Pitch Slider.  If you make a change in 1 of these cursors, tab to Apply, & spacebar it to save the change for that cursor.  After you make changes to each cursor Apply them, & when you are working with the last cursor after applying your change, now tab to Okay & press enter to save all your changes & close.

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:01 PM

Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Hi Mike,

OK, this time, I have already gone through all of those steps.  The only pitch change option I can find is for capital letters.  I want to actually adjust the speaking pitch of the selected voice.  I did look through the settings and there is no pitch change for any of the ones I selected.  I have NeoSpeech, Vocalizer, Vocalizer HQ, Eloquence and sapi5.  If I am missing something, I don't know where it is because I did exactly what you suggested.  Thanks for trying, and if you have any other ideas, I will be glad to try them, too.

Carol

 

On 5/22/2017 5:51 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,

 

Try the following:

1. Press, Insert / Jaws key + J, to open the Jaws context menu.

2. Press the letter, O, to open Options.

3. Press the letter, V, to open Voices, or arrow down to it & press enter.           

4. Press enter on, Voice Adjustment, & tab down to, Voice Adjust.  Here you can make the pitch change amongst many other setting adjustments.  Make sure to Apply & Okay your changes.

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:27 PM

Subject: voices and pitch

 

Hi,

Although I am getting used to playing around with voices and their
settings, I have not been able to change the pitch for any of them.  Is
this possible?  For example, the Reid voice would be reasonable except
it is a bit too bassy.  On the other hand, Glenn sounds better, but this
voice is too high to suite me.  Is there a way I can change the
settings?  Also, does pitch work for other synthes?  Thanks.

Carol

 

 

 

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