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Re: latest Jaws update

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

We have something called "Track focus Rectangle" under Miscellaneous .

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Jaws update

Hasn't screen tracking been part of JAWS for ages? That sounds very, very
familiar.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: May-22-17 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Jaws update

I certainly consider the screen tracking a useful addition, there have been
lots of times where I have been trying to show something to a
seeing-eye-human and have had a hard time getting across where I am focused
(sometimes selecting text works but even that isn't always an option).

On 5/22/17, Dave... <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Interesting. Nothing fantastic jumps out with this release. Still
nothing that tells me it is more stable now. But, I paid for 18 so
I'll continue to

update it, even though I'm using JAWS 16 full-time.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 09:33
Subject: Re: latest Jaws update


The page at
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/jaws/JAWSWhatsNew
lists what changes with each release, you have to skip past the
material that relates to the jaws release as a whole to the material
that is new for each build (currently starts at "Enhancements in JAWS
18.0.2945 (May 2017)")

This build has quite a lot of new material.

On 5/22/17, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:
Installed the Jaws update that popped up today. Install went just fine.
Is there a way to know what changes were made in such updates?
Thanks from a newbee




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jfw scripts

William Vandervest
 

i keep hearing about scripts in jaws, where are they located, and where can i find new or updated ones?
thanks
 
   
timelord09@...

There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See

William and Leader Dog Lynerd


Re: cursors in jaws

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

The JAWS and Invisible Cursors are almost exactly the same as you navigate. The difference is that the Invisible Cursor is just to familiarize you with what is on the screen. None of the controls can be acted upon by the Invisible Cursor. This is different from the JAWS Cursor, which can invoke whatever control is under the cursor with Left Mouse, ENTER, or sometimes by routing the PC Cursor to the JAWS cursor, then pressing the Left Mouse button.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cursors in jaws

 

What, exactly, is the difference between the JAWS and the invisible cursors?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cursors in jaws

 

Invisible is a toggle.  You tap the JAWS cursor once and it says JAWS, again and it says Invisible, then back to JAWS.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cursors in jaws

 

How does one activate the invisible cursor, or am I mis-reading the material below?  I find steps to activate each of the other listed cursers, but no such activation step listed for the invisible curser.  Please explain, I am very curious to check this out!  I have used JAWS since 1989, and have never tried nor understood its function and capabilities.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cursors in jaws

 

Hi Don,

 

About JAWS Cursors, below all 4 of them are explained.
Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors. These
cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked
with Windows cursors.

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes
This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and
 applications.
This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through
options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons. As you type
information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press. If you
 are
making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights the
currently selected object. The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS
starts. If you are using a different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns
you to the PC Cursor.

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer
The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other
applications. It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read,
 such
as toolbar information. The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when
 it
is moved, and you therefore have access to information in an application
window that is beyond the scope of the PC Cursor. To activate the JAWS
Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment
The virtual PC Cursor mimics the functions of the PC Cursor, but is
activated by default when entering an HTML document. The virtual PC Cursor
speaks the number of frames in a document, and the number of links in the
frame. You can switch between frames, and JAWS reads graphics labeled by
 alt
tags in the HTML code.

 

Invisible Cursor

The JAWS cursor is basically the mouse cursor that is visible on screen.
The invisible cursor can be moved around just like the JAWS cursor to view
information.  It works like the mouse cursor but can not be seen on screen
or effect objects.  Therefore you can not use the NumPad / (left mouse
click) or NumPad * (right mouse click) on an object.  It is useful to read
information without disturbing the mouse cursor.  It is also useful to
determine colors or whatever might change when the mouse is over an object.
It will not cause ToolTips to pop up.

 

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Don H

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:17 AM

Subject: cursors in jaws

 

I am trying to do my best in learning JAWS under the help and training
sections listed in the JAWS user interface.  If I understand it
correctly there three cursor modes in JAWS.  I can find no help topics
discussing them and how to use them.  Can someone lead me in the right
direction to learn all about cursors in Jaws.
Thanks


Re: closing programs

Ann Byrne
 

No idea, but it happens to us all. Press alt+spacebar for the system menu, and arrow to close. That usually works.

At 08:08 AM 5/23/2017, you wrote:
Being a newbee I may have put Jaws in some mode unknowingly to get these results. When I have lets say IE open and try to use alt F4 to close it it won't close. I can use window key M to get back to desktop but if I then bring back IE from the task bar alt F4 may or may not work.
Any suggestions as to what is going on here?
Thanks


closing programs

Don H
 

Being a newbee I may have put Jaws in some mode unknowingly to get these results. When I have lets say IE open and try to use alt F4 to close it it won't close. I can use window key M to get back to desktop but if I then bring back IE from the task bar alt F4 may or may not work.
Any suggestions as to what is going on here?
Thanks


indexing

Don H
 

Is there any way to get Jaws to include index? For example when you open file explorer it would be nice to hear file 1 of whatever? This function is available both in WE and NVDA.
Thanks


Re: cursors in jaws

Richard B. McDonald
 

What, exactly, is the difference between the JAWS and the invisible cursors?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cursors in jaws

 

Invisible is a toggle.  You tap the JAWS cursor once and it says JAWS, again and it says Invisible, then back to JAWS.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cursors in jaws

 

How does one activate the invisible cursor, or am I mis-reading the material below?  I find steps to activate each of the other listed cursers, but no such activation step listed for the invisible curser.  Please explain, I am very curious to check this out!  I have used JAWS since 1989, and have never tried nor understood its function and capabilities.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cursors in jaws

 

Hi Don,

 

About JAWS Cursors, below all 4 of them are explained.
Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors. These
cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked
with Windows cursors.

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes
This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and
 applications.
This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through
options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons. As you type
information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press. If you
 are
making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights the
currently selected object. The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS
starts. If you are using a different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns
you to the PC Cursor.

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer
The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other
applications. It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read,
 such
as toolbar information. The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when
 it
is moved, and you therefore have access to information in an application
window that is beyond the scope of the PC Cursor. To activate the JAWS
Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment
The virtual PC Cursor mimics the functions of the PC Cursor, but is
activated by default when entering an HTML document. The virtual PC Cursor
speaks the number of frames in a document, and the number of links in the
frame. You can switch between frames, and JAWS reads graphics labeled by
 alt
tags in the HTML code.

 

Invisible Cursor

The JAWS cursor is basically the mouse cursor that is visible on screen.
The invisible cursor can be moved around just like the JAWS cursor to view
information.  It works like the mouse cursor but can not be seen on screen
or effect objects.  Therefore you can not use the NumPad / (left mouse
click) or NumPad * (right mouse click) on an object.  It is useful to read
information without disturbing the mouse cursor.  It is also useful to
determine colors or whatever might change when the mouse is over an object.
It will not cause ToolTips to pop up.

 

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Don H

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:17 AM

Subject: cursors in jaws

 

I am trying to do my best in learning JAWS under the help and training
sections listed in the JAWS user interface.  If I understand it
correctly there three cursor modes in JAWS.  I can find no help topics
discussing them and how to use them.  Can someone lead me in the right
direction to learn all about cursors in Jaws.
Thanks


Re: voices and pitch

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Carol, guess you just contradicted what I said  in another post, and thank you.  I use vocalizer now and again, and will bare that in mind.

 

ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 8:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Thanks Mike,

With the instructions you provided plus the clarification from Sieghard, excuse me if I didn't spell it correctly, I was able to make the pitch changes.  Yes, you can change pitch for other synthes, too.  I am using the Vocalizer compact voices and they work quite well with the pitch changes. 

Thanks again, and take care.

Carol

 

On 5/22/2017 6:25 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,

 

The steps I provided are for Eloquence.  I don't use any other voices, so I'm sorry I didn't mention that.  Now with that being said, if you follow the steps, & when you tab to, Voice Adjust / All Contexts, arrow down to, PC, Jaws, Keyboard, or Tutor & Message cursor options, tab through each of these, & you will find the Voice Pitch Slider.  If you make a change in 1 of these cursors, tab to Apply, & spacebar it to save the change for that cursor.  After you make changes to each cursor Apply them, & when you are working with the last cursor after applying your change, now tab to Okay & press enter to save all your changes & close.

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:01 PM

Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Hi Mike,

OK, this time, I have already gone through all of those steps.  The only pitch change option I can find is for capital letters.  I want to actually adjust the speaking pitch of the selected voice.  I did look through the settings and there is no pitch change for any of the ones I selected.  I have NeoSpeech, Vocalizer, Vocalizer HQ, Eloquence and sapi5.  If I am missing something, I don't know where it is because I did exactly what you suggested.  Thanks for trying, and if you have any other ideas, I will be glad to try them, too.

Carol

 

On 5/22/2017 5:51 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,

 

Try the following:

1. Press, Insert / Jaws key + J, to open the Jaws context menu.

2. Press the letter, O, to open Options.

3. Press the letter, V, to open Voices, or arrow down to it & press enter.           

4. Press enter on, Voice Adjustment, & tab down to, Voice Adjust.  Here you can make the pitch change amongst many other setting adjustments.  Make sure to Apply & Okay your changes.

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:27 PM

Subject: voices and pitch

 

Hi,

Although I am getting used to playing around with voices and their
settings, I have not been able to change the pitch for any of them.  Is
this possible?  For example, the Reid voice would be reasonable except
it is a bit too bassy.  On the other hand, Glenn sounds better, but this
voice is too high to suite me.  Is there a way I can change the
settings?  Also, does pitch work for other synthes?  Thanks.

Carol


 

 


Re: voices and pitch

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Only Eloquence is pitch-adjustable.  In my experience, no 3rd-party app is.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voices and pitch

 

Hi Mike,

OK, this time, I have already gone through all of those steps.  The only pitch change option I can find is for capital letters.  I want to actually adjust the speaking pitch of the selected voice.  I did look through the settings and there is no pitch change for any of the ones I selected.  I have NeoSpeech, Vocalizer, Vocalizer HQ, Eloquence and sapi5.  If I am missing something, I don't know where it is because I did exactly what you suggested.  Thanks for trying, and if you have any other ideas, I will be glad to try them, too.

Carol

 

On 5/22/2017 5:51 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,

 

Try the following:

1. Press, Insert / Jaws key + J, to open the Jaws context menu.

2. Press the letter, O, to open Options.

3. Press the letter, V, to open Voices, or arrow down to it & press enter.           

4. Press enter on, Voice Adjustment, & tab down to, Voice Adjust.  Here you can make the pitch change amongst many other setting adjustments.  Make sure to Apply & Okay your changes.

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:27 PM

Subject: voices and pitch

 

Hi,

Although I am getting used to playing around with voices and their
settings, I have not been able to change the pitch for any of them.  Is
this possible?  For example, the Reid voice would be reasonable except
it is a bit too bassy.  On the other hand, Glenn sounds better, but this
voice is too high to suite me.  Is there a way I can change the
settings?  Also, does pitch work for other synthes?  Thanks.

Carol


 


Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Carol Smith
 

Hi Judith,

If someone sent you these steps, ignore this message. It depends on what you want to happen. If you temporarily want to
disable speech while you are doing something, press insert plus space and then the letter s. When you are finished, press the same keys and will get speech back.

If you want speech silenced for a program every time you open it and speech to return if you close the program or alt-tab out of it, do the following:



1. Open the program you want silenced.
2. Press insert plus the 6 on the number row.
This will open a menu and it should say the name of the program you just opened.
3. Press ctrl-E to get to the edit box and type the word sleep
4. This will populate the screen with two options. Arrow to the second one, which will say something like
sleep mode disabled, miscellaneous
5. Press spacebar to toggle to enabled, unload synthesizer
6. tab to OK button and press enter.

Should this screen not close, press alt-F4.

These were not my instructions, but rather help from other knowledgeable persons on this list.

Carol

On 5/22/2017 6:29 PM, judith bron wrote:
Does this command work again only in the program you are typing in or does it stay active in the next program you type in? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Carol, JAWSKey(insert)+spacebar then s to turn speech off or on.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io [mailto:carollablady=aol.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:40 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have their own speech? For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take care of this. I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having to shut Jaws down completely. Can this be done? Thanks.

Carol




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Re: cursors in jaws

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Invisible is a toggle.  You tap the JAWS cursor once and it says JAWS, again and it says Invisible, then back to JAWS.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cursors in jaws

 

How does one activate the invisible cursor, or am I mis-reading the material below?  I find steps to activate each of the other listed cursers, but no such activation step listed for the invisible curser.  Please explain, I am very curious to check this out!  I have used JAWS since 1989, and have never tried nor understood its function and capabilities.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cursors in jaws

 

Hi Don,

 

About JAWS Cursors, below all 4 of them are explained.
Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors. These
cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked
with Windows cursors.

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes
This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and
 applications.
This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through
options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons. As you type
information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press. If you
 are
making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights the
currently selected object. The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS
starts. If you are using a different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns
you to the PC Cursor.

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer
The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other
applications. It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read,
 such
as toolbar information. The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when
 it
is moved, and you therefore have access to information in an application
window that is beyond the scope of the PC Cursor. To activate the JAWS
Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment
The virtual PC Cursor mimics the functions of the PC Cursor, but is
activated by default when entering an HTML document. The virtual PC Cursor
speaks the number of frames in a document, and the number of links in the
frame. You can switch between frames, and JAWS reads graphics labeled by
 alt
tags in the HTML code.

 

Invisible Cursor

The JAWS cursor is basically the mouse cursor that is visible on screen.
The invisible cursor can be moved around just like the JAWS cursor to view
information.  It works like the mouse cursor but can not be seen on screen
or effect objects.  Therefore you can not use the NumPad / (left mouse
click) or NumPad * (right mouse click) on an object.  It is useful to read
information without disturbing the mouse cursor.  It is also useful to
determine colors or whatever might change when the mouse is over an object.
It will not cause ToolTips to pop up.

 

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Don H

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:17 AM

Subject: cursors in jaws

 

I am trying to do my best in learning JAWS under the help and training
sections listed in the JAWS user interface.  If I understand it
correctly there three cursor modes in JAWS.  I can find no help topics
discussing them and how to use them.  Can someone lead me in the right
direction to learn all about cursors in Jaws.
Thanks


Re: most responsive syn

Chris G <jedikent@...>
 

Speaking of DecTalk, is there a way to get Access32 to work with JAWS?

Chris



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:06 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: most responsive syn

that's because Eloquence and DECTalk are synthesized voices while
Vocalizer and other voices are samples of human recordings pieced
together, where artifacts like gaps and other anomalies can exist.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:ted.lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:35 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: most responsive syn

Agreed. It doesn't pretend to be naturel, but, for covering lots of
ground with few or no repeats, it's still No. 1.

Ted

-----Original Message-----From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I find Eloquence to be very responsive.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Rogers
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I used Tom for years, but now I'm using Vocalizer Nathan. I like it better.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Sun, 21 May 2017 17:34:29 -0500
"Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:

Would like to get some opinions regarding which is the best and most
responsive syn to use with JAWS I am currently using the vocalizer Tom
high.
Thanks.












.


Re: cursors in jaws

Kevin Minor
 

Hi Tim.

 

If you’re using the desktop layout of JAWS, prss the numeric dash key twice quickly.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY


Re: New member with a question about JAWS and Kindle

Jim Fettgather
 

When you download, install, and use Kindle for PC, along with Jaws 18,
and open your Kindle library, you may use all of the Jaws navigational
commands with which you are familiar.
Control Down Arrow, for example, will read by paragraph.
You may read by letter, word, line. and so on.

You do not need to use any of the pre-installed Kindle for PC voices
that were originally used in the first instance of the supposedly
Kindle for Pc.
You may use which ever Jaws voice you wish.

The only thing that does not work, which is kind of a mystery, is that
you cannot select line by line with Shift down Arrow.
Jaws indicates that this function is not available.
However, with another competitive and free screen reader, this
function of selecting text works flawlessly.

So, I highly recommend using Kindle for PC and Jaws 18 for reading any
books in your Kindle library.

On 5/22/17, Carol Smith via Groups.Io <carollablady=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

From what I have seen, text is, of course, not visible. The reading
keys work for listening to the book with the Kindle voices. Much of the
menu information is visible, but I do not see where to put your
information in if you plan to register online. Also, if you click on the
button one tab after the register button and you have already registered
before, that button is now a deregister button, although it does not say
that. Please note, I am not using the most current version of Kindle
because it does not suit my needs.

Carol


On 5/21/2017 9:55 AM, Shirley Tracy wrote:
Hello all,

My name is Shirley Tracy. I’m new on this list, and I’ve been a JAWS user
for close to 20 years, but I’m admittedly self taught and definitely not
very technical. I hope to learn a lot from you guys, and I will try to
participate when I can.

As the subject line states, I’d like to know if any of you are able to use
JAWS with Kindle. A few years back, I tried but couldn’t. Has anything
changed? If so, any pointers?

Thank you for letting me be a part of this group.

Cheerfully,
Shirley








Re: script for goldwave version 6

John Covici
 

Thanks much.

On Mon, 22 May 2017 13:27:22 -0400,
Mario wrote:

http://www.jaws-users.com/scripts/Audio/goldwave_5-6_jaws_scripts_2_0.zip

-------- Original Message --------
From: John Covici [mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 1:00 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: script for goldwave version 6

I am looking for the Jaws scripts for Goldwave version 6. I did a
Google search, but it revealed nothing.

Thanks in advance for any suggesitons.





--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com


Re: latest Jaws update

James Homuth
 

Hasn't screen tracking been part of JAWS for ages? That sounds very, very
familiar.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: May-22-17 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Jaws update

I certainly consider the screen tracking a useful addition, there have been
lots of times where I have been trying to show something to a
seeing-eye-human and have had a hard time getting across where I am focused
(sometimes selecting text works but even that isn't always an option).

On 5/22/17, Dave... <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Interesting. Nothing fantastic jumps out with this release. Still
nothing that tells me it is more stable now. But, I paid for 18 so
I'll continue to

update it, even though I'm using JAWS 16 full-time.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 09:33
Subject: Re: latest Jaws update


The page at
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/jaws/JAWSWhatsNew
lists what changes with each release, you have to skip past the
material that relates to the jaws release as a whole to the material
that is new for each build (currently starts at "Enhancements in JAWS
18.0.2945 (May 2017)")

This build has quite a lot of new material.

On 5/22/17, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:
Installed the Jaws update that popped up today. Install went just fine.
Is there a way to know what changes were made in such updates?
Thanks from a newbee




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Re: Big problems after creator's update

jeff armstrong <jeffarmstrong1380@...>
 

Sieghard;
 
Thank you for this bit  of info, I  downloaded the latest version of 17 and it is working fine.  I  had been using 17.1... and obviously this is not the latest build of that version of JFW.  I  don’t know why those guys wouldn’t know that, but it is my own fault for not realizing that there was a  later version of JFW, I  somehow missed that fact and thought I  was on the last build of  17 and that 18 was the only option.  Thanks again everyone for the help.
 
Jeff Armstrong

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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Big problems after creator's update
 

In this case if Microsoft Accessibility said that Jaws 17 is not compatible with Windows 10 Creators Update then whoever yout alked to doesn’t know what they are talking about.

If you have the latest update of Jaws 17 it is compatible with Creator’s Update.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of jeff armstrong
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Big problems after creator's update

 

Brian;

 

Sorry, I had some personal things come up which delayed me getting to the computer.  I just got off the phone with microsoft support as you suggested.  They were able to determine that Windows Creators edition of windows 10 is not compatible with Jaws 17 or vice-versa.  I am using Jaws 18 in 40 minute mode for the rest of today.  I tried Narrator for a while but the learning curve will be a thing in itself.  I will probably just update to 18.  I thank you for the number and the direction.  I never would have found this problem without doing the remote session with Microsoft.  Thanks again.

 

 

Jeff Armstrong

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From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:19 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Big problems after creator's update

 

Are you able to use the WinKey to trigger a search and have it complete successfully?   If so, hit WinKey, search for "Recovery", and select "Recovery Options" from the returned search results.  This should open the Recovery pane of Update & Security settings and this is where the "Go back to an earlier build" (or something similar) button or link is located during the period that this function is supported.  I think that's for something like 10 days after upgrading.

My suspicion is that either there was corruption on your system prior to upgrading or that some "burp" occurred during the upgrade process itself.
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Re: copy and paste

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I think copying from a website depends a lot on the website and the browser. For example, it is not possible to copy for example the item description on Amazon, at least not on Amazon.ca and not with IE or Chrome.
Also, I have been using Google Chrome as my primary browser lately and while for the most part I really like it, it seems copying does not work as well as with IE. I can go to the same website with IE and copy a few lines whereas with Chrome I cannot and at best I have to do a select all, then copy and paste everything into Notepad and use Control+F to find the information, then delete everyting from the start of the information to the beginning of the document, locate the end of the information and delete everything from there to the end of the document. Maybe somebody will tell me if I am wrong and this is a Jaws issue, but since I can copy the same selected information on a website with IE and not with Chrome it would make me conclude it is a browser/website issue.
I know that a web developer can, for example, code the website so that any pictures on the website cannot be saved by right clicking on the picture and select the "Save Picture" option from the context menu that comes up. On other websites that is not a problem and I wonder if in the same way a web developer can restrict the ability to copy text from a website.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: copy and paste

I am finding that the copy and paste function in Jaws is somewhat troublesome in that it does not copy all that you have selected.
Here is what I am doing and please tell me what I am doing wrong.
I go to a web page that has a recipe I wish to copy. I go to the top of where I want to start copying and while holding down the shift control keys I arrow down the page until I have selected all I wish to copy. I then hit control C to copy the selected data to the clip board. I then open a word document and hit control v to paste the info. It seems that I am always missing the last few lines I am trying to copy. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Re: most responsive syn

marvin kotler
 

This is Marv here. I have a hearing problem and I find eloquence works the best for me. I have tinnitus which means my ears ring all the time; I have used jaws for 26 years or so and find that glen or reed work the best. Have a nice evening.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I like Eloquence and Reid. I've listened to others, but they do not have the clarity to me that Reid has - not like Siri and Talk Back do.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I can't stand the compact voices. Guess I am hard to please? LOL. It is interesting and sad in a way because I went with W E originally because they had more human sounding voices as opposed to the synthetic voices on JAWS. I had no idea JAWS had such a variety of voices. I was never told by JAWS users about the extra voices. It is probably because they like the Eloquence voice so, never explored the other voices. Who knows.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

Not always, but I have found the crankiness goes away from the female voices some if you use the compact or whatever it is they call the lesser-quality voices.


On 5/22/2017 10:04 AM, David & his pack of dogs wrote:
Melcom is my primary voice. I do use Ava as well. This is just a preference but, I found a lot of the female voices sound cranky like they are having a bad day. Again, that is a personal preference.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Marquette, Ed
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

Synthesizer preferences are totally subjective. The Vocalizer voices are all pretty responsive now. They sound nice, for the most part, but when they miss a word, they miss it badly, and I'm talking about some pretty common words.
Eloquence and DecTalk Access both, by comparison, sound a little robotic (That's because you've never heard an Echo or an Echo PC from Street Electronics in the 80's). Eloquence and DecTalk, to me, are the clear champions when it comes to responsiveness. I think that, on average, they do a better job on common words than do the Vocalizer voices.
In the last decade, for various reasons related to work, I have had to switch back and forth between JAWS and WindowEyes, and my wife has a Macintosh.
My synthesizer of choice is still good old Eloquence.


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Chris G
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I'm using Malcolm, I like him a lot.


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Subject: most responsive syn

Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:
Would like to get some opinions regarding which is the best and most responsive syn to use with JAWS I am currently using the vocalizer Tom high.


That's what I'm using too, and it's responsive enough for daily use. I'm running the new version released for JAWS 18, not the old 1.x version.









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Re: saying graphic as i arrow up and down a file list

Jed Barton
 

ah ha, awesome, well, your trick worked, i went to the startup wizard,
and the problem seems to ahve gone away, yeahha! Thanks so much,
sincerely appreciate it.

On 5/18/17, Tyler Spivey <tspivey8@gmail.com> wrote:
I'll explain what this is and how to fix it.

This is JAWS trying to give a label to unknown graphics automatically.
If it doesn't know what to call something, it will use the word graphic
followed by a number.
This can be disabled. Personally when I use JAWS, I prefer to do this
for all applications.

These are not web graphics.

We can try changing the default graphic verbosity for JAWS.
The easiest (though not the only) way to do this is through the Startup
Wizard.

1. Activate the JAWS window with Insert+j.
2. From the Help menu, select Startup Wizard.
3. Press enter until you hear Verbosity Settings.
4. Tab until you hear Graphic Verbosity, and set it to labeled graphics.
5. Press enter until the Startup Wizard disappears.

That should solve it, unless overridden by an application specific
setting (which may have been changed in Settings Center or with JAWS
key+v).

On 5/17/2017 1:35 AM, Jed Barton wrote:
Hey guys,
Curious if anyone has seen this, not sure what it is. In 1 of my
programs, i am going to open a file. Si i go to file open, and find
the location. As i'm arrowing up and down my file list, before every
file, it says sever graphics, something like graphic 244, graphic 212,
as an example. It's really annoying, any ideas what it could be?

Thanks,
Jed